Ukrainian media: Erdogan humiliates Putin in front of the whole world


Turkish troops entered Azerbaijan - Erdogan is going to provide military assistance to Baku in its armed confrontation with Yerevan, supported by Moscow. Ankara persistently continues to build its “Turkic world” from the Crimean peninsula to Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, in contrast to the mythical “Russian world” - experts of the Ukrainian sociological service “Ukrainian Barometer” argue about this.


So far, Turkey has introduced its military contingent to Nakhichevan, an autonomous region of Azerbaijan. According to Viktor Nebozhenko, director of the Ukrainian Barometer, Erdogan's goal is to show that he is not afraid of Russia and is realizing his far-reaching plans and ambitious national interests.

In addition, Turkey is quite actively resisting the actions of Russia in Syria and Libya, supporting the troops of the NTC in the latter. And recently, in front of the entire Orthodox world, the Turkish leader "Islamized" the Orthodox Church-Museum of St. Sophia in Istanbul - some experts regard this as disrespect for the interests of the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church.


All these actions show that Erdogan is actually humiliating Putin in front of the whole world. The Turkish president, unlike his Russian counterpart, is pursuing a very successful policies on the world stage - this demonstrates Putin's weakness and his inability to take truly effective measures

- notes Victor Nebozhenko.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 29 July 2020 14: 42
    +4
    Temple-Museum of Hagia Sophia in Istanbul - some experts regard this as disrespect for the interests of the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church.

    First of all, this is disrespect for the interests of the state of Ukraine and personally Poroshenko. The Istanbul Patriarchate, which gave the tomos to the new state church of Ukraine, could do nothing at its side to protect Orthodoxy. What can he do to defend Orthodoxy in Ukraine? But nothing can, and the new Ukrainian Church will unite with the Greek Catholics (Uniates), in order to then lie under the Pope. And there is Latin, and goodbye to the Orthodox Prince Vladimir and the baptism of Rus in the Dnieper. They may also demand to demolish the monument to the Baptist of Rus in Kiev. Why do Uniates and Catholics need it? And then Ukraine can forever lose the birthright of baptism in Russia, in fact, for "lentil soup".
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 29 July 2020 16: 33
      +2
      The Istanbul Museum had the chair of Bartholomew, who supported the Ukrainian schismatics. So the ROC does not need to interfere there. But now the Ukrainians will have problems with the Armenians. Because Ukrainian militants went to Azerbaijan.
      1. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
        KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 30 July 2020 08: 58
        -8
        Who said that Ukrainians went to Azerbaijan? Any facts? Why lie impudently and ugly? Balabol you!
        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 30 July 2020 09: 14
          +2
          The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) oversees the participation of Ukrainian nationalists in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict on the side of Azerbaijan. This was announced at a briefing on July 24 by the official representative of the People's Militia (NM) of the unrecognized Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) Yakov Osadchy. The recording of the briefing is available on YouTube.

          According to the data voiced by Osadchim, nationalist structures are recruiting both Ukrainian citizens and former and active servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with combat experience. The purpose of the recruitment is to send them to the territory of Azerbaijan to participate in the military conflict against Armenia.

          The representative of the NM LPR reports that the work in this direction is directed by the deputy head of the SBU Vladimir Gorbenko - this means that Ukraine at the state level interferes in the affairs of another country.

          Jump ...))) Then you will squeal: and we are for sho, we were deceived, we were not, etc. etc.
          1. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
            KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 30 July 2020 09: 35
            -9
            laughing Don't make my sneakers laugh! Since when did some LDNR lackeys become official and where and in what country are they generally perceived? They are selling you all kinds of nasty things and you are being led to all this orgy.
            1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
              Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 30 July 2020 09: 48
              +3
              And in the first Karabakh there were no ukrov, and in Georgia they were not, and in Chechnya, they were not, and Tu-154 over the Black Sea was not shot down, and they did not shoot down Boeing, and air conditioners exploded in Slavyansk? You don't tell me tales about white and fluffy Little Russians. Probably, Sheremetyev himself surrendered to the Turks ...
          2. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
            KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 31 July 2020 15: 56
            -1
            Your Osadchy is not yet known whose lackey he is.
  2. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 29 July 2020 15: 16
    -5
    This is something from the field: teasing or, in another way, "prompting", like school or kindergarten jokes ... who will you be? Let me guess - corrupt ones.
  3. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 29 July 2020 16: 05
    +1
    Yes, he is no longer humiliated and humiliated, but He is silent, and when He is silent, the whole world trembles.
  4. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 29 July 2020 16: 25
    0
    notes Victor Nebozhenko

    I saw what kind of smart guy he was ...

    Since 2003 - Head of the Sociological Service of the National Institute for Strategic Research under the President of Ukraine, Director of the Sociological Service "Ukrainian Barometer"

    This "weather vane" since 2003, with all the authorities, says what is required, serious discussion of the "pearl" of a regular propagandist does not deserve.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 29 July 2020 16: 38
      +2
      And which of these ENKO is not a weather vane? They threw them with carrots. There are no lace panties, with Pole cards, Hungarian and Russian passports, bummer. They are not allowed into Europe and Russia. Now the whole kaganate will turn around, as if on a hot frying pan, cursing everyone around.
    2. Digital error Offline Digital error
      Digital error (Eugene) 29 July 2020 21: 51
      +5
      Quote: 123
      the "pearls" of a regular propagandist do not deserve serious discussion

      Perhaps, with the exception of "effective measures": they are mean-spirits to us in Syria and Libya, with a temple, with Armenia, with the Crimea, and we - tourists, S-400, the Akkuyu NPP, "Turkish Stream" (something is empty ). Doing Business, taxpayers will pay ...
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 29 July 2020 22: 18
        +4
        Perhaps, with the exception of "effective measures": they are mean-spirits to us in Syria and Libya, with a temple, with Armenia, with the Crimea, and we - tourists, S-400, the Akkuyu NPP, "Turkish Stream" (something is empty ). Doing Business, taxpayers will pay ...

        And what does the Ukrainian propagandist have to do with this?
        Bastards in Syria and Libya? I guess it looks about the same from their side. They have their own interests, we have our own, each defends them. If only the Turks did it ... they practically do not stand out against the general background. Well, I suppose they have not fully paid off the "Syrian accounts", they will still get their own.
        Temple? Let the "tomos bearers" deal with it, they can together with the Greeks. Not so long ago, our clergy were stupidly denied visas to Greece. The Patriarchate of Constantinople is at least not a friendly organization for Russia.
        Armenia? Their leadership makes much more of the Turks for this, the latter only demonstrating support for Azerbaijan.
        Crimea? Is the position of the Turks somehow different for the worse from the others?
        S-400? An increase in arms exports, while a decrease for the United States, the F-35 will not be, again a split in the orderly ranks of NATO.
        Akkuyu NPP? High-tech exports, plus a link to Rosatom for fuel and services. "Turkish Stream"? Yes, empty, times are now. Others are also not packed to capacity. The Turks, in any case, do not invent any "energy packages" and do not grow cod.
        In general, if you look at the situation cynically and without emotion, why are they worse than other "partners"?
        1. Digital error Offline Digital error
          Digital error (Eugene) 29 July 2020 22: 40
          -1
          Quote: 123
          what does the Ukrainian propagandist have to do with this?

          One that doubts the Dark One's ability to take effective action.

          Quote: 123
          Crimea? Is the position of the Turks somehow different for the worse from the others?

          By the way, yes, Sberbank is not in a hurry there, and MTS will not provide 5G services there. I say - doing business, nothing personal.

          Quote: 123
          split in NATO's slender ranks

          If only not to cut the S-400 into NATO with the subsequent study of the element base under a microscope.

          Quote: 123
          Others, too, are not crammed to capacity

          In 2018, Energy Minister Novak, reporting to the State Duma, honestly admitted that Power of Siberia is not a commercial project:

          https://topwar.ru/173486-ne-nuzhnye-truby-ili-zakat-strany-gazokolonki.html#comment-id-10634893

          So why build them (Chinese, German-2, Turkish)? To cut the budget on contracts in favor of the "most competent" contractors? Where is the efficiency of investments?

          Quote: 123
          why are they worse than other "partners"?

          Those that are part of NATO. I was not looking for "worse" partners, my comment was about my agreement with the Ukrainian (and even Zimbabwean) propagandist regarding his doubts about the ability of the Russian Federation to take effective measures, regardless of whether they are military or economic and to whom they are / are not applied.
  5. Cheburashk Offline Cheburashk
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 29 July 2020 16: 40
    -2
    In this way, Erdogan is being substituted by the pro-American group in Turkey - it wants to provoke him to take steps that will lead to a break in relations with Russia. But then Erdogan will be isolated, and his overthrow will not be a problem.
    Turkey has no friends. The West needs an obedient Turkey that fulfills its demands. And Erdogan pursues an independent policy and declares his sovereignty. The West does not need such Turkey. If Erdogan finds himself isolated, his days will be numbered.
    The conflict may not escalate only if the parties continue their cocky policies. But everything suggests that both sides are eager to fight.
  6. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 July 2020 08: 26
    +2
    Bandera again wishful thinking. In Libya, the military base of Turkey was hidden, and the fact that the American-made Hawk museum air defense systems were replaced by the Turks with Soviet antiques in the form of the S-125 Pechera air defense systems, smeared with Ukrainian bacon, did not increase their real combat effectiveness. The vaunted Turkish electronic warfare Coral (the latest development of Turkey in the field of electronic warfare), which the Turks boasted of jamming Russian air defense systems in Syria, were destroyed in Syria, which clearly showed that the Turks are strong with their tongues to grind, but in fact they are not very good. Azerbaijan long ago fell under Turkey, but will Turkey and Azerbaijan be lucky in the battle with the Armenians, we'll wait and see. In Syria, the positions of the pro-Turkish militants are currently being ironed out by the MLRS of the Syrian army and the Russian Aerospace Forces.
    1. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
      KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 30 July 2020 09: 10
      -4
      You don't have to scratch everything that comes to mind. From the outside it looks funny and amusing. You can tell a Russian man in the street that Azerbaijan fell under Turkey. Tell me, who did Armenia fall under, having on its territory an American diplomatic mission with a similar number of personnel and a 102nd base. So who exactly is the man in the house and with whom is the wife cheating? And you shouldn't think of yourself as omnipotent. Time will very soon put everything on the shelves. I hope you can find yourself a job to feed yourself somewhere in Poland, or in the same Ukraine. wink
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 July 2020 09: 14
        +2
        Yes, you fell under Turkey long ago, and if you yourself have not yet understood this, so much the worse for you. We will not drag you out from under the Turks, so you will die, as in the well-known anecdote, through the mumba-jumba. Oh, don't make me laugh. So far, the Ukrainian women standing on the highways, the entire Russian Federation is crammed, and we are not going to work for them. As for Armenia, I am not interested in your problems at all. All the post-Soviet republics that separated from Russia are sick with Russophobia and I am equally sick of all of you.
        1. KARAKURT21 Offline KARAKURT21
          KARAKURT21 (KARAKURT21) 30 July 2020 09: 32
          -3
          Imagine the whole world is sick of you! And who lay under whom, so everyone knows it. The season, by the way, has opened, the number of requests for holidays in Turkey in Russia has increased by 46%. We will see who lies under whom. wink
          1. magma Offline magma
            magma (Tatyana) 30 July 2020 10: 24
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            You don't have to scratch everything that comes to mind.

            - I would like to ask you the same.

            Imagine the whole world is sick of you!

            And you don't need to scale your individual disadvantage to the whole world.
          2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 July 2020 10: 42
            +1
            The USA and their slaves, this is not the whole world, it is a smaller part of it, so don't puff your cheeks too much! I don’t need your Turkey with drinks diluted with water and stomach flu for nothing, I am fed well at home. Let the Sobchaks go there and bend there from your infection! laughing
            1. Kharchenko Andrey Viktorovich (Andrey Kharchenko) 1 August 2020 17: 21
              +1
              True, but this is not someone's Turkey, the territory of Byzantium, which was occupied by the Turks, which Russia, according to the behest of Ivan the Great, must return to Russia. The story is complete and true, now only young people know ... unfortunately.
  7. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 31 July 2020 12: 04
    0
    Quote: KARAKURT21
    Imagine the whole world is sick of you! And who lay under whom, so everyone knows it. The season, by the way, has opened, the number of requests for holidays in Turkey in Russia has increased by 46%. We will see who lies under whom. wink

    A saucepan on the head and a finger in the nose are clever thoughts to knock out. Regarding Turkey and rest there: prices rise by 10-30% and demand fall by 40%. Applications from tour operators are not an indicator of excitement. Almost all of my friends, fans of foreign recreation, this year are exploring Altai, Baikal, Karelia and Krasnodar Territory.
  8. Kharchenko Andrey Viktorovich (Andrey Kharchenko) 1 August 2020 17: 17
    +1
    No, guys, the Church of St. Sophia, this is the property of the ORTHODOX Russian Church, and not someone else's, we need to look at things more broadly and taking into account history, ignorance of the traditions and history of Russia and leads to a misunderstanding of such tragic moments ...
    You must NOT allow and forgive such things that Turkey does in the person of Erdogan ... what a meanness and blasphemy in relation to faith, to the church and Russia to make the Greatest Christian Temple a mosque (although I am not an enemy of Islam) ... in Turkey few mosques? Few places where you can build a mosque? ... no .... this stuff is full! But Erdogan had to desecrate the Temple of Hagia Sophia, which, in fact, like the territory of Byzantium itself, belongs to Russia, as the successor of the faith and this state, do not forget that the Turks themselves are the occupiers of this territory and why we have had wars with the Turks for more than 500 years were, and why Catherine the Great called her second grandson Constantine .... whoever is not in the subject will not understand. The problem goes much deeper ...
    1. TOGO Offline TOGO
      TOGO (hh) 5 August 2020 08: 36
      0
      Well, how is this Constantine doing there?