Why Russian helicopter carriers were more expensive than Mistrals


This week at the Kerch shipyard "Zaliv" Russia for the first time in history laid down two universal amphibious assault ships. Already, many people call domestic helicopter carriers a "copy" of the French Mistrals, which we did not get in 2015 because of the sanctions. At the same time, the Russian government is accused of ineffective spending of funds, since our helicopter carrier is more expensive than its foreign counterpart.


How fair are these judgments? Let's figure it out.

It is known that both ships of the Priboy project will be able to cover a distance of 6 thousand nautical miles and be autonomous for 60 days. The own crew of the Russian helicopter carrier is 320 people. One such UDC is capable of taking on board up to 1 marines and 75 units of combat equipment, including 20 helicopters.

At the same time, our universal vessel surpasses the Mistral in: displacement - one and a half times, length - 21 meters, power of the propulsion system - 1,6 times and full speed - 15%. Add to this increased combat survivability, the ability to navigate in the harsh northern latitudes and better armament than that of a French ship.

This is where the price difference comes from.

In addition, do not forget that the ships of the Priboy project were called universal for a reason. The ship will be able to perform supply functions without any problems, become at the same time a floating barracks, headquarters, hospital, aircraft carrier and landing ship, and also be used in purely humanitarian missions.

Thus, the laying of Russian UDCs is definitely a positive event for our country. At the same time, the domestic ship is by no means a more expensive copy of the "lost" French Mistral, and accusations of corruption and ineffective spending of funds are groundless.

  • Photos used: F. Dubey
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  1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
    Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 26 July 2020 21: 19
    -3
    In addition, they are not serial, but piece. They would build a dozen of them, the price would be lower.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 26 July 2020 22: 02
      +4
      In addition, they are not serial, but piece. They would build a dozen of them, the price would be lower.

      This is just a matter of terminology. The first ship built according to the new project is the lead ship, the second is the first serial one. But in fact, as a rule, the larger the series, the lower the price. In this case, it's not just serial production. The ships under construction are larger than Mistrals, the same applies to weapons. Hence the price difference. hi
      1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 26 July 2020 22: 09
        -7
        "Besides" ... Russian is not native? Maybe I should write in mov to make it clearer? I don't need to retell the article in my own words.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 26 July 2020 22: 55
          +3
          "Besides" .. Russian is not native? Maybe I should write in mov to make it clearer? I don't need to retell the article in my own words.

          I doubt that you own my mine. winked
          1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
            Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 26 July 2020 23: 33
            -7
            Rest assured ... I have extensive experience with alternatively gifted people.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 27 July 2020 00: 28
              +5
              Rest assured ... I have extensive experience with alternatively gifted people.

              Well, still, somehow you communicate with each other. winked
    2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 July 2020 07: 33
      +2
      Dozens of such ships are not even built in the USA, they do not have a single project according to which a dozen UDCs would be built. Although the Yankees have planned the construction of 11 America-type UDCs, so far only 2 have been built, 1 more is being built and so far everything, new ones are not even laid.
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 26 July 2020 21: 26
    +4
    The construction of ships in our country should only be welcomed! We are a Great Power, and a Great Power must have a fleet!
  3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 July 2020 07: 29
    +5
    The landing ships of Russia, the lion's share of which today consists of Soviet-built ships, need both supplementation and updating. So any construction of a new warship is positive, but the fact that the ships are being built in the Russian Federation, and not somewhere abroad, is the right decision. Russia will get new jobs and will not depend on the whims of a foreign beast sick of Russophobia.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 July 2020 09: 23
    -5
    The stump is clear. Wages for builders, materials and weapons are more expensive in Russia than in some poor France. And the ship became one and a half times larger (rental price). How not to double the price. One and a half times more - 2 times more - the desired price / quality ratio.

    Here is just on VO:

    Inadequate modernization of "Marshal Shaposhnikov" - there modernizations are also called:
    "incredibly long and incredibly expensive"

    - you can be proud !!!!
    1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 July 2020 11: 01
      +4
      Mistrals were built to civilian shipbuilding standards, cheaper and faster than military ones, but negatively impacts the ship's survivability in battle.
    2. GRF Offline GRF
      GRF 27 July 2020 16: 52
      +2
      Yes, he is better proud of his own than of someone else. And he strives to be the best not only in words, but also in deeds, and then, if you do not give up, then you can see how your enemy surrenders ...
      And about money - yes, "take everything, I'll draw some more for myself," the main thing is to do the job.
    3. King3214 Offline King3214
      King3214 (Sergius) 28 July 2020 02: 42
      0
      It also says that "French" is less in all (!) Parameters. Including the price.
      What's not clear?
  5. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 27 July 2020 12: 07
    -3
    Why Russian helicopter carriers were more expensive than Mistrals

    - But what does the "high cost" have to do with it ???
    - Such a helicopter carrier is ten times more vulnerable than an aircraft carrier ... - And the Russian one is also much larger in size, Mistral ...
    - It's a pity for the Marine Corps ... if they really try to use the helicopter carrier ... as a UDC ...
    1. GRF Offline GRF
      GRF 27 July 2020 17: 03
      +2
      Is it better for the Marine Corps to crawl in full gear?
      As there - buy a magnificent handbag, so you will need to match it - shoes, a dress, a hat, a fur coat ... and yet, we need a handbag, we threw out too many "unfashionable" things earlier ...
    2. Polente the Wanderer 27 July 2020 17: 27
      +4
      Helicopter carriers are NOT created for war with countries with decent weapons.
  6. Polente the Wanderer 27 July 2020 17: 25
    0
    With wages and other construction costs, which are lower in our country than in France, but still more expensive, the cost comes out. Why?...
    "Non-serialization" only partially increases the cost ...
    1. Dear sofa expert. 27 July 2020 19: 23
      +3
      "Non-serialization" only partially increases the cost ...

      Increases the cost greatly. After all, first you need to invest a lot of money in development, but you had to develop from scratch. To equip the shipyard for the construction of a new project. Suppliers must rebuild production for new products. Correct possible technological errors. In the end, prepare specialists for all this.
      But when all this is already working, it starts flowing, subsequent products are already much cheaper.