"Lock up the Black Sea Fleet": the Naval Forces of Ukraine was headed by an extremely competent officer


Over the years after the coup d'etat in Ukraine, we have become accustomed to portraying the ukrovoi as such Papuans, howling with the civilian population in Donbass, just not with a bow and arrow. At worst, not by the Papuans, but by monkeys with a grenade with a pulled out pin, who are not others, so they can undermine themselves with this grenade. All the more surprising it seemed to me the interview of Rear Admiral Aleksey Neizhpapa, newly appointed President of Zelensky on June 11 of this year, to the Dumskaya edition.


How many over the years have we seen these commanders? Any admirals without a fleet and tankers in sea armor? Although no, not that much. In the years after Maidan, only two fleet commanders were replaced - Vice Admiral Sergey Gaiduk and Lieutenant General Igor Voronchenko (the same tanker, who later became admiral). The latter was replaced by Rear Admiral Alexei Neizhpapa. But the ministers of defense and acting. During the same time, a whole company was replaced by defense ministers. Starting with Admiral Tenyukh, who slept through the Crimea, and ending with businessman Zagorodnyuk, who was replaced by military pensioner Andrei Taran from March 4 of this year. And between them in this chair, both the border guard Koval, the police Geletey, and the National Guard Poltorak managed to sit with short breaks, not counting Colonel-General Zamanu, who accepted this department immediately after the coup and handed it over to Admiral Tenyukh 5 days after receiving it. Yes, this ungrateful thing is to head the Ministry of Defense of the banana republic, you don’t know in advance whether you will leave for an honorary pension or in a bunk (the prison is crying for the first five!

But the newly appointed commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine compares favorably with his predecessors. July 26, 2020 Russia marks the next Navy Day. Nezalezhnaya also has a similar holiday, however, it is called the Day of Workers of the Sea and River Fleet and is celebrated on the first Sunday of July (to spite the enemies who celebrate it on the last Sunday of this month! You know who Ukraine's enemies are!). Just on July 5, on the occasion of the holiday, the newly appointed commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine gave his interview to the Odessa edition "Dumskaya", in which he opened up.

I am afraid to upset someone in the Russian Federation, but I must note that a very competent officer was caught. And although the construction and maintenance of a fleet is a very costly thing, very few countries can afford it. And the Russian Federation also has problems here. And some of them were thrown just by Ukraine, which refused to supply them with its gas turbine engines, which froze the construction of three lightweight frigates of the Admiral series on slipways. But Nezalezhnaya is not going to stop there and with God's help from America plans to bring even more problems to the Russian Federation. This is what the new commander of the Ukrainian Navy told about this and much more, outlining the prospects that were not entirely bright for his northern neighbor, promising to impose a war on the Russian Federation not only on land, but also at sea, locking the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation in the ports of its registration.

I think this interview will break the mold of stupid and mediocre ukrovoy to many Russians. But you need to know your enemies by sight! Unfortunately, both Ukrainians and Americans quickly learn from their mistakes and draw the right conclusions. And it should be noted that the States are going to fight with Russia until the last Ukrainian. They are not sorry for this good! Why not fight on someone else's territory, with someone else's hands, and at someone else's expense? But for what Rear Admiral Neizhpapa was going to fight, I don't know. Apparently, for the Crimea, which Putin stole from him. Maybe even behind Sevastopol, the city of Russian military and naval glory.

For those who did not study history well, I will remind you: Hitler's bunker was defended to the last by the French SS men from the 33rd Waffen-SS Charlemagne Grenadier Division. They fought fiercely, during the day of the battles for Berlin on April 28, out of a total of 108 Soviet tanks destroyed, the French “Charlemagne” destroyed 62. And SS Unterscharfuehrer Eugene Valo was even presented to the highest Reich award Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross for the destruction of six of them, becoming one of the his last cavaliers (three days later he died from a bullet of a Soviet sniper, not having lived a month before his 22nd birthday and a week before the end of the war). When, on the morning of May 2, after the announcement of the surrender of the garrison of the capital of the 3rd Reich, the Soviet troops took the Reich Chancellery, there, besides 29 Frenchmen, no one was left alive. Probably Rear Admiral Neijpapa is haunted by the SS La Valter Untercharführer’s laurels.

Admiral of the Fleet of His Zelenskiy Majesty


Help: Alexey Neizhpapa was born on October 9, 1975 in Sevastopol (USSR). In 1997 he graduated from the Sevastopol Naval Institute (the famous ChVVMU - the Black Sea Higher Naval Order of the Red Star School named after P. S. Nakhimov), in 2008 - the Sevastopol Naval Institute (operational and tactical level) and in 2015- m National University of Defense of Ukraine. He served as an officer from lieutenant to captain 1st rank inclusively on the ships of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (from the commander of a frigate battery to the commander of a brigade of surface ships). Twice ahead of schedule he received military ranks in the positions of ship commander and brigade commander. From 2015 to 2019 - Deputy. Commander of the Naval Forces for Combat Training - Head of the Combat Training Directorate of the Command of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In 2017, he received the title of Rear Admiral. On June 11, 2020, by Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 217/2020, he was appointed Commander of the Ukrainian Navy.


Alexey Leonidovich Neizhpapa. Photo: Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

Next, I will give the admiral's direct speech on issues of interest to us.

There is no Ukrainian fleet as such. There are separate combat units, the number of fingers of one hand. More precisely, one combat unit is the flagship of the fleet “Getman Sagaidachny” frigate (more precisely, the TFR is the Soviet patrol ship of project 1135.1 “Nerey”, which became a slipway in 1990 and completed by Ukrainians in 1993, after which it became proudly called a frigate), the only ship of the 2nd rank. The rest of the ships cannot be called combat ships - they are the Vinnitsa corvette (more precisely, the MPK is a small anti-submarine ship of project 1124P Albatross, built in 1976), the medium landing ship Yuri Olefirenko (former Kirovohrad SDK of project 773, built in 1971 ) and the road river minesweeper "Genichesk" (project 1258 "Korund", built in 1985). And it's all! MPK “Vinnitsa” and KFOR “Olefirenko” are 3rd-class ships, a minesweeper is generally river, the maximum that can work this way in the roads, the rest of the floating garbage is 4th-class ships, them, as well as auxiliary vessels, by the fleet can only be called with a stretch of the nose, and talk about their combat use only under torture or sniffing hallucinogenic mushrooms. This is my remark. Then I give the floor to the admiral.

Heavy frigates of the far sea zone


Commander on the possibility of replenishing the fleet with American decommissioned ocean-class frigates of the Oliver Hazard Perry class:

The first thing to consider, the frigate Oliver Hazard Perry is an expeditionary ship to escort convoys, search for submarines in the ocean. It was developed in the 70s of the last century. Yes, this is the most massive type of American frigates built after World War II. However, these are very old ships. His systems are outdated. With them, even when they served in the US Navy, they removed their missile weapons, used only artillery systems. They were excluded from the active fleet in 2015 and have been in reserve for five years as obsolete.

Second, since they are designed for ocean waves, they are sized appropriately. These ships are much larger than the Hetman of Sagaidachny in terms of displacement and length. And then the question arises about the basing of these frigates. Now we just have nowhere to place them.

And third, the most important thing is to maintain them. technical readiness. The restoration and operation of these ships will cost more than the purchase of corvettes.



Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates. Photo: US Navy

And then the commander does not lie. Indeed, if you want to ruin a country, give it a cruiser.

Small armored artillery boats and minesweepers


Regarding the construction of Ukrainian-made armored boats of Project 58155 Gyurza-M for the needs of the fleet, the same ones that were noted during the incident in the Kerch Strait, and regarding the purchase of mine minesweepers, the admiral said in particular:

The seventh "Gyurza" is now being tested - I think that next month we will include it in the Navy. One more unit, the eighth, will be completed by the end of the year. For now, we leave them at eight - this is the number that we need.

The purchase of new anti-mine complexes and anti-mine ships is a stern necessity. All this is included in the tasks and in the development strategy of the Navy. This is one of the three priorities that we set for the Navy, because the mine threat in the Black Sea is a colossal threat. The likelihood that enemy mines may appear in areas near Odessa, Yuzhny, Chernomorsk will stop all shipping in our region. And this is, after all, more than 7% of our GDP. Naturally, the responsibility for mine safety lies with the Navy - we must provide it.

Ukrainian unfinished: the cruiser "Ukraine" and the corvettes of the series "Vladimir the Great"


admiral сообщилthat they won’t finish building the cruiser, but with the project 58250 corvettes the opposite decision was made, the head corvette of this series “Vladimir the Great” is planned to be completed and launched in 2023:

On the cruiser "Ukraine" it was decided that it will not be part of the Naval Forces - this is an ocean-going ship of the old Soviet project. All the weapons systems that were on it were all Russian-made. The cruiser itself is a big target, and nothing more. For it to go out to sea, a huge number of other ships and aviation are needed, and appropriate support is needed. It uses so much fuel that it will probably be enough for several areas. It is very energy intensive. This ship was conceived as a "carrier killer", its task in the 80s was to destroy the United States aircraft carrier strike groups. We do not have such tasks, so we will not be able to use it for its intended purpose. We need to destroy Russian ships, and they have no such aircraft carriers yet. Their only aircraft-carrying ship - "Admiral Kuznetsov", it is under repair, which threatens to become eternal. In general, Russia does not have aircraft carriers, so Ukraine does not need “aircraft carrier killers”.

But the corvette is another matter. This is a universal class that can perform tasks in the Black Sea, it has an appropriate air defense system and strong electronic warfare systems - this is what makes it protected from enemy fire from the air. It is impossible to put such complexes on small ships - they will not physically fit.



The project of the corvette "Volodymyr the Great". Photo: Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

The latter is a stone in the garden of supporters of the "mosquito fleet" concept, who suggested focusing on the construction of boats. The new commander has a different vision. Ships of the project 58250, although they are called corvettes, are closer in characteristics to light frigates. With a length of 112 m, a width of 13,5 m and a draft of 5,6 m, their planned displacement is expected to be about 2650 tons. The crew is 110 people, the sailing autonomy is 30 days. The ship, thanks to the contours of the hull, hidden weapons and equipment, will be invisible to radars (such as "stealth"). It will be equipped with the latest Ukrainian radar, sonar system and communications complex. From weapons it is planned to install anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles (including the latest anti-ship systems "Neptune"), torpedoes and three artillery mounts, which will allow it to perform a wide range of tasks to combat surface, air and underwater targets. In total, it is planned to build 2028 corvettes of this series by 4, each worth $ 192 million (according to the Cabinet of Ministers decree No. 879 dated November 22.11.2019, 32, UAH 1,5 billion is provided for this). Moreover, the cost of Ukrainian corvettes will be 4 times cheaper than their partners in the Black Sea basin of Romania and Bulgaria, who also plan to build XNUMX of these ships.

Anti-ship missile system "Neptune"



According to him, the admiral said specifically:

I am the chairman of the selection committee, I personally supervised the launch of missiles and I know this complex very well. This is a good complex. This is a breakthrough in rocket science in Ukraine. There are not so many countries in the world that can afford a closed production cycle of such missile systems. By the end of next month, we must fully prepare the appropriate set of documents for the tests of "Neptune". Based on the results of this work, a decision will be made on the purchase of a divisional kit with a delivery time in 2021. There is a direction in the state defense order - there is such an article, but there is no financial resource. But the financial resource itself will be redistributed this year. This project is supported by the President and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense.



Anti-ship missile system "Neptune". Photo: Adminіstratsiya President of Ukraine

This complex is planned to be installed on all types of carriers - on coastal, shipborne and aircraft platforms. But no money yet!

About Azvo Sea


Here it is necessary to quote:

I have said many times and will repeat again: the Sea of ​​Azov is not a puddle of the Russian Federation. If they think that they will behave as they are used to, they will not succeed. This year we will increase the number of units in the Azov Sea. We must get the most modern Mark VI boats from the USA - only 16 units. Naturally, some of them necessarily will in the Sea of ​​Azov. With missile systems on board - more effective for the region. It should be noted that the States planned them only for themselves and, apart from Ukraine, they have not even offered them to anyone yet - this happened because we developed a strategy and set goals - how to gradually develop the Ukrainian Navy.


Patrol boat project Mark VI. Photo: US Navy

Help: Mark VI boats are a universal platform, on it you can install weapons and equipment in several directions, from the patrol function to the landing of sabotage forces near the enemy’s coast, equipment for mine search and destruction, short-range missile systems for destroying the enemy.

Future plans and cooperation with NATO


Now the vector has changed - now we are doing reinforcement at sea. The President and the Minister of Defense gave the Navy a carte blanche: a project is under construction for the construction of new fleet-based locations — we cannot only be in the small harbor in Odessa and in the small harbor in Ochakovo. In order to have a strong fleet, we need to have the appropriate infrastructure, we need a place where to put our ships. Now decisions are being made, land plots on the shores of the Black and Azov Seas are being transferred to create worthy bases. Without us there will be no sea for Ukraine, and without the sea there will be no Ukraine.

In this matter, the commander is counting on the help of NATO partners, who should help Ukraine equip its fleet to solve joint problems.

One of the main priorities of our cooperation with Western partners is the material and technical equipment of the army, this is understandable. This is especially true for shipbuilding. I draw attention to mine ships, because Ukraine does not have the appropriate production and scientific potential to build such ships. We have never done this and will not be able to quickly implement it. Therefore, I pay the greatest attention to this issue. Further - the supply of ships and boats that can fill the niche that we need so much now - this is the coastal zone, the near zone. We must now quickly fill this niche and move on to the next stage - work near the enemy's coast: this is the goal that we now set for ourselves.

After which my task will be to make sure that we can take the main blow not on the shore, but on the sea. We must make sure that the enemy is on our shore, knowing that we are strong. Make sure that we do not wait for him to come to us.


The main problem is personnel


But the new commander, as a competent officer, and here we must give him his due, is aware of the main problems facing the Navy:

The main problem is training. A ship can be built in two to three years, even a large one. But to prepare the commander of the ship, a minimum of 10 years is needed. The commander of the ship, who is ready to control the ship, use its weapons and be absolutely compatible with the commanders of the ships of our partners at sea - this is the task that we set ourselves. At a minimum, a sailor must be prepared for a year, foreman - at least 3 years, and a commander - ten. This is a long time. And the organization of training is the direction that we would like to continue with our partners.

As you can see, our admiral's plans are Napoleonic. Everything depends only on the lack of funding and the time factor. I hope that Ukraine will not have these 10 years in reserve, and the Russian Federation should worry about this. As the Ukrainian saying goes: "Eat, of course, he will eat, but only who will give him ?!"

Summary


From all of the above, only one conclusion can be drawn - in the near foreseeable future and in the real future, Ukraine does not pose any military threat, at least from the sea, to Russia. The threat is likely to be man-made, given the presence in Ukraine of 4 more operating nuclear plants and a number of chemical plants, as well as bacteriological in nature, taking into account the US deployed in the territory of the 15 secret bacteriological laboratories that are not accountable to the local banana government .

And the subsonic missile systems "Neptune", which the admiral was so proud of, pose a threat not so much for Sevastopol and Novorossiysk, which they can still hypothetically reach, as much as for the Ukrainians themselves, because such a direct and obvious threat from the Armed Forces of Russia to Russian defense facilities will lead to their destruction at the slightest threat even before they are used in all areas of deployment RF means, including nuclear ones. And here I am not joking at all! You just need to be aware of what games and with whom you can play. Big boys play in big cubes, and Ukraine is not in this sandbox. And with the Neptune missiles, Admiral Neizhpapa let him frighten his Neizhmama.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 08: 34
    +1
    deployed by the United States on the territory of Independent 15 secret bacteriological laboratories that are not accountable to the local banana government.

    It is possible that the Americans are developing a viral weapon similar to the action of toxoplasmosis, when the local population, contrary to their will and safety for themselves, becomes zombie and performs the tasks that are programmed for them in these US military biological laboratories. Approximately how mice infected with toxoplasmosis change their behavior and specially fall into the paws of a cat. So the Azerbaijanis and Armenians, who have such American biological laboratories, began to destroy each other as if on command.
    1. Tatyana Offline Tatyana
      Tatyana 20 July 2020 15: 02
      +6
      Important article! Citizens of the Russian Federation should know what the next Nazi-Bandera member Alexei Leonidovich Neizhpapa is like as the head of the Ukrainian Navy.
      He is called the Ukrainian military of a new formation - 44-year-old Neizhpapa is one of those who no longer studied in Soviet military universities, but from his youth he was involved in nationalist propaganda.

      "Roots from Vinnitsa region, surname - from Zaporizhzhya Sich" - this is also Neizhpapa's confession from a long interview he gave to the Ukrainian newspaper Dumskaya.

      “I was born in Sevastopol, and my children were born there. My dad was a naval sailor and a doctor, and my grandfather was a doctor, and my uncle was also a doctor - we have a naval medical dynasty. I also thought to be a military doctor, but for this I had to go to study in Russia, and we have a Ukrainian family - roots from the Vinnytsia region, the surname - from the Zaporozhye Sich. Where am I and where is Russia? I am Ukrainian. When Ukraine had already become independent, he entered the academy in Sevastopol, graduated from it and became a military sailor "

      Also, Neizhpapa - a member of the ATO and "gunboat"(forced subordinates to vote for Petro Poroshenko in the presidential elections).
      In January 2015, he was appointed Deputy Commander of the Naval Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for Combat Training - Head of the Combat Training Directorate of the Ukrainian Navy Command.
      In this position, Neizhpapa took part in a punitive operation in Donbass. There was no real need for him to stay in the ATO zone - the naval commander went there, because he believed that this would contribute to his promotion up the career ladder. They say about such people that this is a careerist who will go over the heads.
      1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 17: 23
        +8
        They are all passed through the ATO, trying to cover up with blood. Already there are 380 thousand of such smeared cannon fodder, which will be the first to be thrown into battle. The 35th Marine Brigade, subordinate to the Navy, is still there. The recent incident with two killed warriors of light in the gray zone, one of whom is an American, the second Belarusian from Estonia (allegedly a dohtor), is with them.
    2. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 21 July 2020 06: 31
      -3
      It is possible that Americans are developing a viral weapon similar to the action of toxoplasmosis

      Toxoplasma has nothing to do with viruses.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 21 July 2020 10: 00
        +1
        For Cyril - Dolphin is also similar to a shark in appearance, but has nothing to do with it. It has been said: - "a viral weapon similar to the action of toxoplasmosis" ...
        1. Cyril Offline Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 21 July 2020 14: 11
          -1
          For Cyril - Dolphin is also similar to a shark in appearance, but has nothing to do with it.

          A dolphin and a shark have much more similarities than Toxoplasma (protozoa) and a virus. Both in structure and in action.
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  2. Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 20 July 2020 08: 49
    +4
    Nobody even considers them Papuans. It’s just that their power has sent such a dense effect on their people that you are amazed. The fact that they redid history and geography is not so surprising. This is inherent in every totalitarian state. But there are so many gingerbread cookies, fables, which alternate with Zelensky's jokes, that you can neither sit nor stand.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 20 July 2020 09: 47
      +1
      Do not offend the Papuans with such comparisons! Is there anyone to choose the most talented of this "people"? Are there precedents for clever ruins of ruins from the moment their Ruriks were set free in the 13th century? They were all puppets and ended badly.
  3. catch22 Offline catch22
    catch22 (Egor) 20 July 2020 09: 38
    +5
    Blah! Blah! Blah! Solid verbal blizzard. Everything for complacency! Another chatterbox and liar! Ukraine, as a country, no longer exists, so why does it need the so-called "fleet" and "army"? What, who and from whom are they going to protect?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 11: 26
      +1
      I hope you are in relation to the admiral're coming out? He's just working out his bread. He made his choice in 2014. I must say that he was not destined to become a fleet commander at the Black Sea Fleet. And to what extent the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Ukrainian Navy pose a threat to the Russian Federation, read this:

      https://topcor.ru/15221-ssha-odnim-resheniem-pomenjali-rasklad-sil-na-azove-v-polzu-ukrainy.html
      1. 123 Online 123
        123 (123) 20 July 2020 12: 16
        +6
        The Naval Forces of Ukraine was headed by an unusually competent officer

        Extremely literate for modern Ukraine? The beyond wisdom in his words is somehow not captured. Entrusting the management of the fleet to a sailor is already something incredible for the current regime. Are you surprised that he understands basic things?

        He made his choice in 2014. I must say that at the Russian Black Sea Fleet he was not destined to become the commander of the fleet.

        Why? Do you want to say that the military, who took the Russian oath in 2014, are being infringed on their promotion? Here's an example for you: Vice Admiral Eliseev, Sergei Stanislavovich, Deputy Commander of the Baltic Fleet.
        Or each Ukrainian sailor who took the Russian oath, to appoint the commander? So the fleets will not be enough, moreover, the Russian fleet also has its own officers. If he did not shine to become the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, then only for objective reasons.
        He made his choice, judging by your words, the motives were quite mercantile. To the prospect of becoming an officer in the Russian fleet, he preferred to command "galleys and boats", even without a fleet, but an admiral. I doubt this is a great loss for us.

        And how much the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Naval Forces pose a threat to the Russian Federation, read this -

        https://topcor.ru/15221-ssha-odnim-resheniem-pomenjali-rasklad-sil-na-azove-v-polzu-ukrainy.html

        As a justification for the increased "Ukrainian" threat, you cite an article about the purchase of American boats. Judging this issue based on the publication of Mr. Marzhetskiy is not a good idea. I very much doubt his competence as a military expert. Try to re-read the article at the link you provided, see from which direction the author considers it necessary to stop the threat. The person has problems with elementary orientation.

        Ultimately, apparently, it will be necessary to create a separate Azov flotilla in order to stop threat from the "East"... In just one step, the Pentagon sharply increased the military spending of the Russian Defense Ministry.

        Today you are referring to the "authoritative" opinion of Mr. Marzhetsky, tomorrow he will refer to yours, is this how it works?

        Why, without fear of sin,
        Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
        For praising the Cuckoo.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 12: 47
          +3
          A cockerel praises a cuckoo ... In vain! It doesn't work here. I also criticized a colleague when he gave a swing. But this article is a very decent analyst on amerovsky boats. Well, he made a mistake with the direction of the main threat, but otherwise he is absolutely right. These boats will give us trouble. Will have to strengthen the Azov. With what? Even without this, we have enough problems in the fleet -

          https://proza.ru/2018/11/30/1427

          https://proza.ru/2019/06/23/990

          - (the first text was published here on Military Review, but I can’t find any links, so I give it to Prose, but there are no pictures). And Azov is our inland sea. Like the Caspian. Now we have to distract ourselves from solving strategic problems. Keep a flotilla to guard the bridge. The Yankees know where to throw problems for us. And these ukromoremans will go with them to the end. Already gone. Do not underestimate your enemies! I see you have something to do with the navy. Read the links (the second - only the beginning and end).
          1. 123 Online 123
            123 (123) 20 July 2020 15: 02
            +4
            These boats will give us trouble.

            They can, of course, but I doubt it. What fundamentally new can they do? Board a fishing boat? They could do that. As much as they can, arrange a provocation and fire on Russian ships, but again they can do this without new boats.
            In terms of weapons, the revolution is also not observed, 25 mm. The M242 Bushmaster is what they put on the armored personnel carriers.

            after modernization on new boats can be installed small-sized missiles such as AGM-176C Griffin B

            - with a range of up to 8 km. Keyword can, it is far from the fact that they will sell, in any case, there was no information about the purchase. In general, in the long term this may become a problem, but not at all tomorrow. It is not yet clear when these boats will arrive (all 16), the story may drag on.

            Will have to strengthen the Azov. With what? We have enough problems in the fleet even without this.

            I read your article, the problems are detailed, but they practically have nothing to do with the situation in the Sea of ​​Azov specifically. If you need to reinforce the fleet, the maximum that 1-2 Buyans can be transferred there, the sea will be shallow for larger ships. No more needed.

            Now we have to distract ourselves from solving strategic problems. Keep a flotilla to guard the bridge.

            They have been holding her for a long time already.

            The Yankees know where to throw problems for us. And these ukromoremans will go with them to the end. Already gone.

            If they had gone all the way, they would have fed the fish, the story under the bridge would have dragged on, because they categorically did not want to drown them. If it is necessary to send a boat to the bottom is not a problem, how many there will be - 2 or 20, it is not so important.

            Don't underestimate your enemies! I see you have something to do with the navy.

            I’m not trying to downplay their capabilities, I just don’t see serious military force in these boats. I have nothing to do with the navy.

            The cockerel praises the cuckoo ... in vain!

            Forgive me if I hurt, I didn't want to write anything offensive. hi I hope you understand what I mean.
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 17: 34
              +4
              Everything is fine! I like these meticulous readers. Buyans are an outdated option, we already have Karakurt. Amerovskie Mark 6 is very high-speed and there, as in the Lego constructor, you can install any weapon, Neptune is unlikely, the displacement does not allow, but Family Guy is quite. Enough for the destruction of the bridge support. We'll have to drown. And this is already a war, which is what the Yankees want.
              1. 123 Online 123
                123 (123) 20 July 2020 19: 17
                +3
                Buyans - an outdated option, we already have Karakurt.

                They are created for shallow water, the draft is less than one and a half meters, water cannons, the Sea of ​​Azov, like the Caspian Sea, is the right thing for them. Sending them to the Black Sea is a forced measure. Karakurt, rather, will serve in the Mediterranean and Black.

                Amerovsky Mark 6 is very high-speed and there, as in the Lego constructor, you can install any weapons, Neptune is unlikely, the displacement does not allow, but the Griffins are completely.

                To put something, you first need to buy.

                Enough for the destruction of the bridge support. We'll have to drown. And this is already a war, which is what the Yankees want.

                They achieve this not only there, but whether this question will be resolved. Saakashvili, if anything, will personally advise how it happens. Sitting in a chair and cutting a budget isn't the same as chewing on a tie, hopefully greed and a sense of self-preservation. overpower.
              2. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
                assault 2019 (assault 2019) 20 July 2020 20: 19
                +4
                Deputy Fleet Commander for Combat Training is a responsible position, but in the absence of Ukraine's own fleet, this is actually the position of "wedding general".
                About how the Ukrainians almost drowned allies from the United States during rocket firing, only the lazy did not write, and even then the "wisest" Neizhpapa was responsible for combat training ...
  4. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 20 July 2020 11: 48
    +6
    All the "rare literacy" of this strategist (admiral born in 1975 - gee-gee, who served only in the Ukrainian Navy) is that he stated the fact of complete ... experience in the department entrusted to him. The rest is "wet dreams". Maybe he is not stupid, only he will sing what the owners tell him. However, he will only do what he is told.
    1. Short Offline Short
      Short (Brief) 20 July 2020 17: 02
      +2
      That's right, this admiral has poor training (the military school died there), there is no experience in managing normal ships and even more so formations, idle talk in positions.
  5. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 20 July 2020 16: 58
    -1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    https://topcor.ru/15221-ssha-odnim-resheniem-pomenjali-rasklad-sil-na-azove-v-polzu-ukrainy.html

    Read Serezhenka's nonsense? Are you serious now?
  6. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 20 July 2020 17: 03
    +4
    Quote: 123
    What fundamentally new can they do?

    40 Lyamov bucks per boat) and even without anti-ship missiles.
    I would call the dvora mk3 the best coast guard boat and it is 4 times cheaper. Not to mention the cost, for example, of Indonesian or Chinese boats - for this money you could buy a service station !!! Boats equipped with anti-ship missiles - and that would be a serious force.
    Russia sells TFR for almost that kind of money.
    Overall, good news. The budget will drink between officials of the ruins and the American military-industrial complex.

    It would be worse if they invested this money in the Nikolaev shipyards.
  7. I_Vadim Offline I_Vadim
    I_Vadim (Vadim Ovsyannikov) 20 July 2020 19: 12
    +3
    I apologize, but I didn't even finish reading. What a disgusting cap he has. And it's not about the cap. All Neizhpapy, Neizhmamy, Poroshenko and Zelenskiy behave as the Russian authorities allow them. The policy of the Russian authorities towards Ukraine is indistinct and confused, so the Neizhpapas are bragging. The funny thing is that they do and do more damage. RF is like a clumsy and blunt Hodor, who is pulled by small, but much more motivated ...
  8. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 20 July 2020 19: 23
    +2
    Where will they train personnel for the fleet? Sevastopol, bye, bye ...
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 20 July 2020 19: 54
      +1
      Odessa, naval institute

      https://www.education.ua/universities/359/
  9. Roothnev Offline Roothnev
    Roothnev (Danila Kornev) 20 July 2020 20: 17
    +2
    To hell with him - stupid in the Navy, because some stupid appoints him there !!!
  10. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 20 July 2020 22: 52
    +2
    Well, what is this ... especially literate? It is enough to look at him to draw conclusions about his level of intelligence ...
  11. beeper Offline beeper
    beeper 20 July 2020 23: 45
    +3
    And let Admiral Neizhpapa frighten his Neizhma with missiles "Neptune".

    good This is the summarizing phrase of the Respected Author that I liked the most! yes
    But the title of the Article caused slight bewilderment - after all, it is enough just to listen to Neizhpapa to understand that this "extremely competent officer" is by no means a "giant of military thought" and thinks irrationally and scanty, because he is completely fixated on the "war with Russia" and worn with this "overvalued idea" as with a written sack! fool
    With such a Svidomo attitude, this "officer" is completely incapable of realistically assessing the situation and the general deplorable situation of "his edge"! request
    Take, at least in passing, the pompous "admiral's thought" expressed by him on the construction of ships:

    A ship can be built in two to three years, even a large one

    - and this is what the "responsible and competent ukroflotovodets" says, allegedly possessing all the information about the tattered state of the Ukrainian shipbuilding industry ?!
    What kind of "reality" does this hyper-warlike naval "strategist" - balabol live in, after all, surely not in the "Ukraine" ??! winked
    Due to its "razgolosti" absurd "thoughts" this "rare genius" is absolutely not distinguished by the "intellect" among similar destructive crazy parasites-maydauns, to please their Washington masters, who furiously finish off the pitiful remnants of the former economic power of the Ukrainian SSR, thus failing to create nothing positive and useful in its ruins, alas!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 July 2020 00: 37
      +2
      Hello! Haven't seen you for a long time, Comrade Pischak. The name is not for me, you know - in my original text it was called "Russian-Ukrainian war on land and at sea. Revelations of the Ukrainian admiral". It is clear that this Moreman is not an ideological traitor, but a traitor by the will of fate who put him there. An old thought, voiced by Talleyrand, worked: "Betray in time, it is not to betray, but to foresee!" Neizhpapa foresaw the vacant post of commander. But it was not in vain that I cited the example of the French Waffen-SS division, this figure will fight to the end. He has nowhere to retreat stupidly. No wonder the same Talleyrand said that

      War is too serious a matter to be trusted by the military.
      1. beeper Offline beeper
        beeper 21 July 2020 00: 47
        0
        hi Good health, Vladimir!
        The name is clear! Sorry to think about you! repeat
        This figure will not "fight to the end."
        As soon as something really threatens his skin, he will "look like Yanukovych (but not to Rostov, but to Washington - like Yaytsenyukh!)"!
        Already the heels will sparkle - it is "by the eyes" and "by the trick" you can see - not a fighter, but an obliging "parquet" balabol "with ambitions"! smile
  12. as-fantom-as Offline as-fantom-as
    as-fantom-as (alexander sokolov) 21 July 2020 12: 22
    +2
    As I read this opus, I immediately had liquid stool, sent my wife to the store for a saucepan, found a language textbook and swelled!
  13. diletant Offline diletant
    diletant (Alexander) 21 July 2020 16: 33
    +1
    The admiral's face is purely Ukrainian. But here's what I, an amateur, came to mind: of course, Ukraine has to bluff to gain time. Let's imagine that Ukraine does not fall apart. And then what will happen in 10 years, provided that the "indistinct policy of Russia" towards Ukraine remains "indistinct"? That the escalation of military hysteria in Ukraine will only grow? I am terrified of a possible ending.
  14. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 21 July 2020 17: 13
    -2
    It seems to me that the author of this opus is a relative of this Neijpapa.
    1. free_flier Offline free_flier
      free_flier 22 July 2020 08: 52
      +1
      The author, of course, was too lazy to place quotes and indicate in parentheses (sarcasm), hoping that the readers have a sufficient sense of humor ...
      So don't push too hard in this regard, this is a good overview with a healthy level of political and naval satire.
  15. Yuriy_4 Offline Yuriy_4
    Yuriy_4 (Yuri Kazarov) 21 July 2020 19: 00
    +1
    I didn't even finish reading a quarter !!!! The head turned gray completely !!! One Neizhpapa will hide the entire Black Sea Fleet !!! How to sleep well now?!?!
  16. Twenty Pairs of Lace Briefs
    And one battle toilet
    Lost in an unequal battle
    Ukrainian maritime special forces ...

  17. mikhail.rybakov2017 (mikhail rybakov) 22 July 2020 03: 57
    0
    About everything and nothing, so a pie with nothing.