Four signs of the imminent invasion of the Egyptian army in Libya

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The Egyptian armed forces are preparing for a large-scale invasion of Libyan territory to support the LNA forces, led by Khalifa Haftar, who are fighting against the PNS army led by Faiz Saraj. This was reported on July 15 by the Turkish resource Ahval.

According to Mahfuz Marzuk, a retired Egyptian army general, there are several signs of an imminent imminent Egyptian attack on Libya.



Firstly, the President of the ARE al-Sisi declared his country's internationally recognized right to conduct military operations against a neighboring state if it poses a clear terrorist threat. According to the head of Egypt, such a danger comes from Tripoli.

The second sign is the warning of the Egyptian leader that Saraj’s capture of Sirte and Jufra air base means that the government’s troops have crossed the “red line”, followed by an adequate response from Cairo. Meanwhile, the PNS and Turkey set the transfer to the armed forces of the Government of National Accord of these important strategic points as a condition for the start of ceasefire negotiations.

The nature of military maneuvers and the types of weapons involved indicate that the Egyptian army is preparing a strategic military operation on a wide front - large contingents are expected to be deployed and landing on a considerable depth of enemy territory

- noted Mahfouz Marzuk, thus indicating the third sign of a possible invasion of the Egyptian army in Libyan affairs.

The fourth important indicator of the imminent entry of Egypt into armed conflict against the troops of the PNS is the resolution of the Libyan parliament on the Egyptian military operations in the country. Parliament, which is subordinate to the armed forces of the LNA, is sitting in Tobruk in eastern Libya. In Tripoli, there is a government opposing the "Haftarovites" by the forces of the PNS.
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  1. -4
    15 July 2020 18: 33
    Four signs of the imminent invasion of the Egyptian army in Libya

    - Ungrateful thing ... - list such signs ...
    - The war will already go on the territory of Egypt; and Egypt will "list" all the signs ... - Joke ...
    - Turkey "did not collect such signs"; but simply invaded the territory of Syria and Libya ... - such are the things ...
    1. 0
      15 July 2020 20: 38
      And also in France, the United Arab Emirates and Russia? Turks will attack all ???
    2. 0
      15 July 2020 22: 34
      Against Turkey are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, France, Greece, and for Turks who have only Qatar as allies, victory does not shine ...
      1. -2
        16 July 2020 21: 33
        That the Egyptians and the Saudis are not fighters. And this has been proven many times in different conflicts. And their number does not matter. A handful of Houthis with Berdyanka women easily chased the brave Saudi warriors on Abrakhs. The Greeks are very afraid and do not want to seriously get involved in the war with the Turks. The French demonstrated their infirmity in Africa in the fight against the Tuaregs, etc. In addition, the French do not have such a large resource for a large-scale conflict and they are very sensitive to their losses. The Turkish military got used to the conditions of that TVD and got good combat experience. So the chances of the Turks are very good.
        1. +2
          17 July 2020 14: 53
          I would not agree with you. The experience of war with the Turks, this is only a skirmish with poorly armed Kurdish troops. The soldiers from the Egyptians and Saudis may not be ah, but after all, the Turks are not Germans or even Yankees, and France has at least a foreign legion, which is well prepared, and its losses in France are not really taken into account. The question is that from France and the Saudis Egypt can get modern weapons and ammunition, military advisers from the same France, and the Greeks are not afraid of the Turks, in vain you are. And the Turks were able to partially overcome Cyprus only thanks to the fact that the USA played along with them, because of which the infuriated Greece withdrew from NATO for several years.
          1. -3
            19 July 2020 00: 44
            In.legion of the French in recent years unsuccessfully stuck in Africa and several times was put to shame by the Tuareg tribes. The experience of the war of the Turks is the experience

            only skirmishes with poorly armed Kurdish troops

            Are you kidding me? The Turks, having limited capabilities, demonstratively and demonstratively six months ago, successfully inflicted huge losses during the offensive operation of Assad's troops with the massive support of the Armed Forces and the like. RF and when using Iranian units, and you call it "poorly armed squad .... mi"? American instructors and the massive armament of the Kurds and their own assaults on the Turks DIDN'T HELP and the Kurds urgently caved in under Damascus so that they would not be completely crushed. But you have this "limited experience". And you are comparing the Turkish army from the time of the seizure of part of Cyprus almost 50 years ago and now. The Turks, both then and now, if the Amers need this conflict, are stronger than the Greeks and will be able to capture several islands for sure. Only the Russian Federation does not need this conflict. They have a good relationship with both. And the experience of ALL previous conflicts of the Egyptians shows that no matter how many modern weapons they would be given and no matter how many there were, but this is all to the star. Only the direct presence of military experts from other states helped bring the Egyptians to their senses.
            1. +4
              20 July 2020 10: 19
              And what, the Syrian army, exhausted by a long civil war, is an indicator for you ?! And even in Syria, the Turks managed to lose both Leopards-2, and Sabras, and their latest drones ... Almost every country has such experience as Turkey. And what, did the Kurds have a fleet, aviation, tanks, helicopters ?! Yes, they had nothing, except for light infantry weapons ... There is no need to compare the Turks with the Jews, Israel's weapons are much better than the Turkish ones, and Jewish soldiers will be more decent than Turkish soldiers. And the Greeks will show themselves, they beat the Turks more than once and will break them in.
              1. 0
                21 July 2020 12: 01
                ..Such experience as Turkey ..

                - oh? For example? Who has been chasing us for so many years and who, with DIRECT various help from the Americans and relatively recently, was able to press them to the nail? And in fact, thanks to the Turks, the killed Kurds ran to negotiate with Assad, whom the fakies had shown earlier. And, by the way, the Kurds had tanks.

                And even in Syria, the Turks managed to lose Leopards-2

                - and 30-year-old L. 2 - is it from the field of ultra-modern non-kill machines, which do not exist in nature? T-90s in Syria were also staggered and not one.

                There is no need to compare the Turks with the Jews ..

                - it's not me, but you compare them with the Jews. And with whom to compare the Turks? You didn't like the Egyptians. With the Greeks too. Although even if we take the economic components, then all three countries have weak ec-ki. They even had no ek-ki and everything hung in the air.

                ... the Greeks will show themselves, they beat the Turks more than once

                - and when in the last 50 years did they beat? Their last conflict ended with the squeezing of part of Cyprus. Small skirmishes with varying success, mostly in the air, are about nothing.

                And what, the Syrian army, exhausted by a long civil war, is an indicator for you ?!

                - a very significant part of the assault infantry units in Syria, which carried out the attack in the Idlib zone in the last stage, were represented by the Iranian IRGC, etc., as well as Hezbollah, as well as the special forces of the Russian Federation. They were very well armed. With very strong support from the Russian Aerospace Forces. And this is just, hike, for you an open secret that in Syria for a long time it is not the Syrians who have been fighting to a very large extent. And the main striking power there are often Iranians. So the Turks are still more preferable.
                1. +2
                  24 July 2020 11: 10
                  Kurds, this is not an army, they do not have an air force, navy, tactical missiles, armored vehicles and other things. It is ridiculous to compare the Kurds even with a small army of Qatar, because there are tanks and infantry fighting vehicles there. T-90s in Syria were captured from not the best Arab soldiers in the world, but not a single T-90 exploded like the Turkish Leopards-2. The Turks were able to squeeze Cyprus only with the help of the United States, which is why the enraged Greece left NATO for several years. Read the history of the Greek cruiser Averof, which the Greeks still keep as a museum, and learn how the Greeks beat the Turks. Hezbollah is again not an army, but a club of armed men with dubious military training. Hezbollah will be able to blow up someone in the elevator, like the Bandera supporters of some of the LDNG leaders, but they cannot resist the army, since it has no aviation, navy, or armored vehicles. The participation of the Iranian and Russian special forces is, again, not an army. Spetsnaz is a tactical unit capable of carrying out an operation to eliminate a bandit, free hostages, destroy a strategic facility (an ammunition depot, for example), but this is not an army, again, there is no air force, navy or heavy weapons. Massive air support is when hundreds of aircraft are used, and not two dozen, as in Syria.
                  1. +1
                    24 July 2020 23: 49
                    You are either poorly informed, or you are talking outright nonsense! I will write the data for 2014 for the total figures for self-defense units, and in fact, FULLY formed according to army patterns, Kurdish military units. You can call them whatever you like. Though terrorists and just bearded men. But this is precisely the proto-army with even a monthly salary payment. The peshmerga is the backbone of the world's Kurdish forces. Military Humvees, hundreds of which were handed over to the Peshmerga by Americans leaving Iraq. 60 German LKW Wolf jeeps and UNIMOG trucks were purchased. Used Soviet trucks "Ural" and GAZ, as well as infantry fighting vehicles BMP-1, in an unknown quantity. In addition, the Peshmerga managed to seize some of the equipment from the abandoned military bases of the Iraqi government forces - American MRAP armored vehicles and M1117 armored personnel carriers.
                    There are at least 215 T-55 tanks, rumored to be 150-170 T-62. There are a number of more modern T-72 tanks, but no more than 30 units. In service there are: MLRS "Grad", a number of American 155-mm howitzers M198, Soviet howitzers D-30, D-20 and M30. Combat aircraft as such is absent. There are a number of civilian and police helicopters that can be used for reconnaissance and transport purposes. With the money provided by Saudi Arabia, American Sikorsky S-333 helicopters and French Eurocopter EC120 Colibri were purchased. And I think that if Kurdistan had access to some reservoirs, etc., then at least a couple or three combat boats they would have had too. This is the question of the lack of the Kurds of the Navy.
                    The same goes for your ignorance of Hezbollah's weapons.
                    The group's armament includes about a thousand MLRS installations and more than one hundred thousand missiles for them, cannon artillery, unmanned aerial vehicles and anti-ship missiles of Iranian production, as well as various anti-tank missile systems (including the Russian RPG-29 and RPG-7V). According to Hasan Nasrallah, in May 2005, Hezbollah has 12 thousand rounds of MLRS 122, 240 and 330 mm. There is evidence that the militants also have an Iranian-made Zelzal-2 operational-tactical missile system with a range of up to 2 km. The Times newspaper in its article dated May 200, 28 claims that the group has missiles M-2010 and OTRK Scud.

                    ... Hezbollah will be able to, but the army will not resist "

                    - very successfully resisted the Israeli army and managed to sink even their boats at one time. And not just one. You can also call them paramilitary, militants, terrorist, but in fact and in structure it is such a mini army. During the Chechen campaigns, the Armed Forces of Ichkeria were also called whatever they liked, and the Chechens themselves called their units Qoman Eskar (National Army). And they fought well and had full management and so on. structures of a purely army type.
                    About "not a single T-90 exploded" is debatable. There is a video of the explosion in Syria, but it is impossible to confirm 100% accuracy, that it is not fabricated.
                    For the heroic cruiser the Greeks are too old. And besides, if you dig into a hundred years ago, the weakened Ottomans after WWI let the Greeks break away and won the islands. And nobody is INTERESTED, with whose help and who won and won what. ALWAYS, in any conflict, there will be countries that will support one side or the other. Open or not. There is a fact. And it was not in favor of the Greeks.

                    The participation of the Iranian and Russian special forces is, again, not an army.

                    - complete nonsense! Tell any RV spetsnaz that he is not an army and he will fill your face. So. Not in the army, but in the boy's way. And then you will understand that special forces and, firstly, it can be different, and secondly, it has MUCH wider tasks and is quite used in force majeure even as ordinary infantry, which is generally not correct. But war is like war.

                    Massive aviation support is when hundreds of aircraft are used, not two dozen ..

                    - even more nonsense than about special forces - not an army.
                    For example, the General Staff of the French Armed Forces summed up the results of the first 3 days of Operation Harmattan (Harmattan or as the Americans called it "Odyssey. Dawn"). The official figures were announced by the press secretary of the General Staff, Colonel Thierry Burcard. In Libya in 2011 (during the overthrow of Gaddafi), about 20 aircraft are now involved in operations - these are Awacs reconnaissance aircraft, refuellers, and fighters that provide a no-fly zone. In the first 3 days, 55 combat missions were made. This is approximately 400 flight hours.
                    Confuses nothing? Does it bother you that these not hundreds, but only dozens of combat aircraft were able to reverse the situation?
                    So learn materiel, think and do not carry nonsense!
                    1. +2
                      25 July 2020 07: 57
                      I told you that the spetsnaz detachment is not an army, but I did not say that spetsnaz is not part of the army. Don't confuse sweet and salty. .... I wrote to you that without the help of the United States, or the USSR, during the time of Lenin, the Turks of the Greeks have never defeated the Greeks, and this is a fact, but not a fact that now the United States will harness itself on the side of the Turks, out in the conflict between the French and With Turkish frigates, the United States took the side of France, since for the United States, France, as an ally, is much more important than Turkey ... Even if there are several tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, this is not yet an army, there is no fleet, there is no aviation, but it now rules the battlefield, there is no air defense system ... Count how many planes were used against the same Dudayev, or Saakashvili, you will be surprised.
                      1. -2
                        25 July 2020 10: 54
                        The participation of the Iranian and Russian special forces is, again, not an army.

                        - Yes, you, my friend, are not just BREAK, you are also stupid, along the way, BREAK. Now I will justify. Well, I kind of wrote in RUSSIAN that the Kurds have NO access to the sea, etc. What kind of fleet can they have then a priori? Are you out of your mind? What air defense systems are there? Your air defense system is only S-300 and S-400, and everything else is like that .. bows, doesn't it?

                        The United States took the side of France, since for the United States France, as an ally, is much more important than Turkey.

                        - who told you, Trump or did they come up with it? And what Sarkozy said about brain death, etc., the need for the EU army and in general in the most powerful graters between the United States and the EU as a whole, as well as with Turkey, as you determined who is more dear to whom and who will become the mountain for whom ?

                        Count how many planes were used against the same Dudayev, or ...

                        - you are stupid. And they are not just stupid, but also corny at close range do not notice their obvious jambs, again not understanding the difference between the number of aircraft and the total number of sorties. The fact that a mass of aircraft with an overall, in fact low efficiency was used, speaks only of the total lag and degradation of the Russian Air Force at that time in all parameters. Due to the almost zero availability of high-precision weapons and the scanty level of combat training of the pilots, then they basically had to close the gaps with the massive use of the aircraft fleet. To carry out the simplest task, a lot of machines were allocated to ensure that the target was hit, which could be done by just one modern machine with a modern and trained pilot. And this is proved by the huge losses by modern standards in aircraft in the war .8.08.08. The conclusion was correct, and already in the Syrian conflict, the Aerospace Forces were only dozens (TENS!) Of aircraft, but with their massive use they were able to grind a lot of barmaley and break the situation in Syria. And is the presence of a UAV aircraft or not?
                        Yes, in modern warriors, the presence of aviation is a very important component and in many respects determining. However, this is not all. The Donbass militias, for example, without any aviation, inflicted defeat on the AFU with aviation. Not without the help of the Russian Federation. As not without the help of the United States and others. Went to the Donbass of the Armed Forces. So, I re-pointed and substantiated all your nonsense. You are not interesting to me in your military and so on. illiteracy.
                      2. +2
                        26 July 2020 02: 10
                        They wrote to you correctly, but again you did not understand. Spetsnaz is part of the army, but not an army itself. The army consists of special forces, airborne forces, tank units, anti-aircraft gunners, signalmen, sappers, medical, engineering units, rembats and others. An army without cooks is not an army, but cooks themselves are not an army either, so you understand ?! An army is a collection of various units, and if it does not exist, then it is not an army, but an armed rabble. Well, MANPADS is not an air defense system, especially in the desert, this is so, shoot down a helicopter and then, if you're lucky. Read more, write less, then you will know that the United States reacted negatively to the information that the Turkish frigate turned on its combat systems and aimed its weapons at the French frigate. Well, what is France, which has nuclear weapons and is one of the two leaders of the EU, everyone but you understands, but Turkey is not even accepted into the EU, they disdain. The Patriot and F-35 air defense systems were sold to Greece without any conditions, despite the presence of the S-300 air defense system in Greece, and Turkey was extended .. The Donbass militia has air defense, in the form of the Strela-10 air defense system and the Buk-M1 air defense system. At the expense of training pilots, listen less to drinking companions Sobchak, with rainy drunks. The massive use of aviation was, for example, in Vietnam, and not at all because there were bad pilots there. By the way, learn to write without offending the person you are writing to, otherwise not only is your education and logic lame, but your upbringing leaves much to be desired. The fact that you are carrying your fables to military officers is doubly funny.
                      3. -1
                        26 July 2020 12: 07
                        The fact that you are carrying your fables to military officers is doubly funny.

                        - it's funny for me, an officer, to read a pseudo-officer who was repeatedly told about him, like, they don't have tanks, but it turned out that there are not only tanks that were shown at the Hezbollah parade in El Quseir in 2016, eg; and the Kurds do not have a navy, although there is NO SEA either!, but it should be !; and army air defense (tovarisCh like a pseudo-officer, do you know that there are such varieties too? And there are not only MANPADS, but also 23mm zushki, there are even zen guns from the times of 2 MV 85mm plus 57mm - well, what rich, so happy, and not all the armies of the world, etc., are so rich; and it turned out that they did have arts of different types.

                        ..Turkey is not accepted even in the EU, they disdain.

                        - the problem of people like you is that in addition to one first education - a military one, after that I also received a second education - an economic one, and did not stay in a helmet. And the reasons why the Turks are not taken to the EU are purely economic, and not because of disgust. There is such a thing as ek.expansion. It makes sense with the growth of the economy as a whole, which has not been observed in the EU economy, by and large, for at least 10 years already, and therefore it is very difficult to include such a huge economy as in Turkey, especially during the transformation of the EU as such. now, and there is no concept in the EU how to integrate it there in the future.

                        ..and Turkey was pushed forward.

                        - Well, yes, we got it. So prodinamili that they promised everything and without problems, only that the S-400 was not taken. You are not only stupid, but also funny with your pupery pseudo-logic and pseudo-military officers.
                        All your nonsense, I have repeatedly substantiated, and on the pictures of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and so on. armed with Kurds and Hezbollah is full in the net, and for the training of Russian pilots then and now this is not I say (I just repeat), but the numbers and commanders of the Aerospace Forces and the Air Force then (in January 2008, the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force A. N. Zelin named the state aerospace defense of Russia critical) and now the Russian Federation. So, fall into the sediment and do not disgrace yourself, because the data and figures I cite are not an insult, but another statement of your stupidity. The same Vietnam that you cite was almost 50 years ago and then the guided weapons were in a minuscule amount, which stupidly confirms my words - the lack of quality was compensated by the quantity, and I wrote not only about the level of training of pilots, and the Russian Air Force. And so it was almost always and in everything.
                      4. +3
                        27 July 2020 08: 18
                        You will make a good storyteller, try yourself in this field, and an officer and an economist are not yours, believe me. And then Turkey is not taken to the EU because the EU does not have economic growth, and parasites from Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria and the same impoverished Greece were accepted into the EU ... They made fun .. By the way, the Russian Federation is still selling SAM S-300 (recently, for example, Iran was sold) and Greece for the fact that it is armed with Russian air defense systems, no one scoffs like the Turks. Guided weapons are used to destroy point targets and this cannot be called a massive use of aviation. By the way, the US Air Force had enough guided weapons both during the Vietnam War and the Soviet Air Force during the war in Afghanistan. Of course, it was less perfect than the modern one, but it was and was quite effective. The Shrike missile, for example, and its Soviet counterparts and the like.
                      5. 0
                        27 July 2020 11: 36
                        All this shobla: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania were admitted to the EU until 2007. And I wrote that the real growth of the EU in general (and I mean the main countries - the core of the EU, such as Germany and France) has been near-zero for the last 10 years, and it is these problems that are the reason for the slowdown and stop of the EU expansion, and not "disdain to take ... And the last country is small Croatia in 2013, and Greece in general has been in the EU since 1981. You are so far from eq-x issues, as well as from others, that it would be better to keep silent at all! The use of high-precision weapons by Soviet aviation in Afghanistan was very limited. Pilots preferred conventional and cluster bombs, and NURS were generally considered the most effective. The same applies to the use of high-precision weapons by the United States in Vietnam, which they used very selectively and were mainly anti-radar missiles. For example, in the 1991 Gulf War, guided munitions accounted for only 1 percent of the total number of aircraft used by the United States and its allies. bombs and missiles, and in Iraq in 2003 their share had already reached 70 percent. What is their sufficiency then can we talk about in Vietnam? And here you are not in the tooth with your foot. And so on other issues. By the way, what do we have a UAV related to aviation or not? How many times to repeat this question? And what about tanks, arte, BMP from the barmaley? Do they have them or where? Have the Kurds already dug the sea to rebuild the Navy for themselves?
                      6. +2
                        27 July 2020 13: 30
                        And what, until 2010 Turkey did not ask for the EU, but, Mr. Storyteller ?! By the way, under the guided munitions in Iraq most often appear ATGMs, which were used by Apache helicopters against Iraqi armored vehicles. In Afghanistan, the Islamists simply did not have such a number of tanks, and neither did the Chinese volunteers. Russia has a different approach here, it is modernizing its sights, although Russia also has guided missiles, but against entrenched infantry and bunkers, Russian weapons are more effective than American guided munitions. In Fallujah, the Yankees carried out several air raids against the hastily created fortified area by the Iraqis and until they razed it to the ground, they did not fully achieve success. The Russians in Chechnya used ODAB-500P volumetric bombs to destroy Islamic militants in the concrete shelters of the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR near Bamut. ATGMs are not effective against entrenched infantry, and ODAB-500P are irresistible.
                      7. -2
                        27 July 2020 14: 31
                        I'm tired of answering repetitive questions. If you do not have enough brains to re-read even the already existing text, consult a doctor. He will either prescribe medicines for you, or explain elementary things on his fingers. Well, how else can you write that when there is growth, then there is basically expansion? I wrote several times in Russian that the EU core has not actually grown for about 10 years. What can then be said for other questions?
                      8. +2
                        27 July 2020 20: 22
                        You lack not only education, but also upbringing.
                      9. -3
                        27 July 2020 20: 44
                        If you do not understand in the simplest form of explanations, in fact, on the fingers, then how in a more intelligent form you would perceive such complex information, which is actually elementary even for a person with average developmental data? It seems that it is not very difficult to look at the map, but make sure that the Kurds are landlocked! This is one example. If you are not able to digest such things and make sure, then who is the doctor to whom?
                      10. +3
                        27 July 2020 21: 19
                        I do not need an assessment of my intelligence from you and those like you ... Your rating on this site speaks eloquently about the assessment of your person by society ... I understand that you, like Novodvorskaya and those like her, think that it is not you you go against the stream, and the current goes against you ... But, blessed is he who believes ...
                      11. -3
                        28 July 2020 02: 11
                        My rating does NOT correlate in any way with your banal human stupidity. And even if all 100% of the readers here are on your side, then in the middle of Kurdistan the sea or ocean will not appear. And instead of simply admitting that you screwed up and with whom it does not happen, having passed the topic, you began to bury yourself even more on other issues. Besides, what kind of rating are we talking about? Well, bring up for public discussion the question why the Kurds do not have a sea and why Hezbollah has armored vehicles and art, but it does not, because Sapsan136 wants it or when the EU accepted Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria. More than 10 years ago or not? And let's see what a great rating you have.
  2. +1
    17 July 2020 01: 23
    Al-Sisi declared his country's internationally recognized right to conduct military operations against a neighboring state if a clear terrorist threat emanates from him. According to the head of Egypt, such a danger comes from Tripoli.

    And so it was possible ?!
    And why then are we liberalizing with Bandera from Ukraine ?? I don’t see any obvious terrorist threat (here’s straightforward) from Faraj to Egypt. Did Faraj or his officials, the military, really threaten Egypt? Terrorist attacks in Egypt prepared, arranged? I don’t seem to hear about this ...
    And dill constantly declares its desire to seize the regions of Russia, carry out terrorist attacks and conducts or is trying. And the Presidents are dill, and officials, and the military, that once openly declared their desire to carry out terrorist attacks and military provocations were.
    If this is so possible, then measures must be taken for a long time! In fact, we don’t need to bring in troops, only a dozen rockets from the accumulations of national battalions, military airfields and a couple of remaining ships, a couple of training bases and military factories, the SBU and a couple of government buildings. And actually everything. Then simply send the activists of the Russian spring and to the LDNR weapons and food - they will do everything themselves.