Israel came up with the idea of ​​sending African refugees to Chechnya and Dagestan

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About 150 thousand refugees from Africa live illegally on the territory of the Israeli state, most of whom moved to the country from Egypt - they also got there from Eritrea and Sudan, fleeing the war and economic adversity. The data on the number of Africans was shared by the public organization Shah Dag, authorized by the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

In total, about 9 million people live in Israel, and the flow of immigrants from Africa upsets the demographic balance of this country. Row politicians and officials believe that too many emigrants pose a threat to the "Jewish character of the state."



Baruch Liviev, a spokesman for Shah-Dag, believes that a rehabilitation center built in the North Caucasus — in Chechnya or Dagestan — could have mitigated the situation with the influx of African refugees to some extent. The corresponding official proposal was sent to the authorities of the Russian regions.

According to sources, all organizational expenses in the center, as well as the return of immigrants from Africa to their historic homeland, the Israelis will take over.
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  1. -11
    15 July 2020 15: 57
    Israel came up with the idea of ​​sending African refugees to Chechnya and Dagestan

    It’s just time for a long time to raise the issue of sterilization of any population that is not able to fit into the existing lifestyle; into all existing norms and rules of the state in which this population wishes to reside and enjoy all its rights and privileges; and at the same time, this population itself is not going to create for this state ...- neither spiritual nor material values ​​..; and it’s only going to be an artificially created consumer society ...
    - And this applies not only to Israel; but of all other states ...
    1. +7
      15 July 2020 16: 08
      Yes, you are already tired with your sterilization, starting with dogs and ending with bandits. When people walk past a pack of stray dogs, they are not afraid that the dogs will rape them, they are afraid that they will bite, and their teeth do not fall out from sterilization !!! So with the bandits as well, impotence will not prevent them from robbing and killing. This is me, for example, about a gang of murderers and bandits from Uzbekistan, which killed more than 100 people on the routes of the Moscow Region before being neutralized by law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation !!!
      1. -7
        15 July 2020 16: 16
        So with the bandits as well, impotence will not prevent them from robbing and killing.

        And here are the bandits and killers ??? - Sterilize men and women arriving in huge populations for permanent residence from Africa; Of Asia; Of the East ... - without any professions, without any skills for work and a desire to work, without any desire to adapt ... - And about criminals ... - here I don’t say anything ... - only a very strict and cruel punishment. ..- there can be no other ...
        1. +6
          15 July 2020 22: 28
          All these gentlemen come without money and education, joining the ranks of the criminals. The only effective way to protect against them is not to let them into the country at all, and their chemical castration, which you propose, will do nothing.
          1. -2
            16 July 2020 20: 08
            First, to create normal living conditions in these countries, to raise literacy and, as an example from China, to levy sufficient taxes for more than two children. Then it will be possible not to accept refugees, because the problems in their homeland have been eliminated ... Today, humanistic laws do not allow refugees from countries affected by civil war to emigrate (by the majority of the unleashed by the US and the EU) and maim people ...
      2. +2
        17 July 2020 08: 56
        Peregrine Falcon, you are trying to convince a person similar in mentality to Farion and this one - Tretyakova ... That's what's interesting to me - recently it was WOMEN who began to talk about the sterilization of PEOPLE. But a woman is motherhood. On the contrary, they should protest against such proposals ... But no - sometimes one or the other express such things that the Nazis, fascists and other Nazis are capable of.
    2. +1
      16 July 2020 22: 05
      It is high time to raise the issue of sterilization of any population widely

      - this is fascism, dear ...
      1. 0
        17 July 2020 09: 00
        Igor, this is not only fascism, but it can also be attributed to Nazism and nationalism - the example of Ukraine is in front of our eyes (there is the same as Irochka - Tretyakova).
    3. 0
      17 July 2020 03: 34
      It is necessary to remove the root of evil, the United States, and not to suffer garbage.
    4. -1
      17 July 2020 08: 57
      Ira, let's try on you what you want to spread to others.
  2. +9
    15 July 2020 15: 58
    You have matzah, it seems, is being prepared without hemp - where does Israel get such thoughts? Or overheated?
  3. +13
    15 July 2020 16: 04
    And all the Jews do not want to move to South Africa, for example ?! NOT?! So Russia does not need to give (smart) advice, we do not need your advice!
  4. 0
    15 July 2020 17: 48
    And what, they will "stimulate" anyone in our government and there will be an exodus of blacks to the vastness of Russia.
  5. -5
    15 July 2020 18: 42
    What kind of "experts" write such articles, even if they would ask that the population of Israel is 9. (as of April 187). After such a blatant illiteracy, you can not read everything else.
  6. +6
    15 July 2020 19: 52
    And from what side does Russia touch the war in Sudan and Eritrea? That is who is involved in this business, let him receive "guests". In general, the stupidity of Europe and Israel is striking. If the money they spend on refugees is used to restore peace in the affected countries, a positive result could be obtained in the near future. It seems that someone makes a lot of money on migration.
    1. 0
      15 July 2020 21: 16
      The Bedouins in Sinai make money, which help them get to Israel.
    2. -1
      17 July 2020 09: 10
      Nikolay, the issue of refugees is too voluminous. It must be solved in a complex. After all, in fact, all of Africa is a large unorganized tribe, which remained in its worldview even at the level of the tribal system. For some of them, quite recently, cannibalism was quite common.
      That is why such a phenomenon as "Africa" ​​needs to be addressed by the WHOLE WORLD as a whole. What's going on now? Africa is simply robbed by the entire "civilized West" - what they did hundreds of years ago, they do now ... only the methods have changed - then it was just slavery, but now slavery has become just different.
  7. 123
    +5
    15 July 2020 21: 54
    Baruch Liviev, a spokesman for Shah-Dag, believes that a rehabilitation center built in the North Caucasus — in Chechnya or Dagestan — could have mitigated the situation with the influx of African refugees to some extent.

    Very curious, guided by what criteria was the choice of location? Interestingly, options with Poland or the Baltic states were considered? Tea, after all, Europe. fellow Surely they will be more comfortable there. Dear Boruch does not want a better share for refugees?
  8. RFR
    +5
    15 July 2020 22: 04
    The funniest news today, they don’t work with their brains at all ...
  9. +5
    15 July 2020 22: 36
    Have they come to you? So you yourself are messing around, there is no need to try to convey your problems to someone else ...
  10. +6
    15 July 2020 23: 38
    But have Israel forgotten the words of Moses: Do not oppress the alien and do not oppress him, for you yourself were aliens in the land of Egypt.
  11. +4
    16 July 2020 00: 21
    Maybe Ukraine will be preferable after all? After all, "tse Europe". And as another step towards full integration with Europe.
  12. +8
    16 July 2020 02: 05
    And what right does Israel have to put forward such ideas regarding Russia's sovereign right to solve its own migration problems? I think Israel is unlikely to like it if Russia comes up with the idea of ​​sending Syrian and Iranian refugees to Jerusalem and Haifa. This would be more justified on the basis that Israel is committing aggressive actions against these countries ... You can also recommend that Israel and the Palestinians take care of ...
    1. -1
      16 July 2020 20: 38
      Quote: Andrey Zaikin
      And what right does Israel have to put forward such ideas regarding Russia's sovereign right to solve its own migration problems? I think Israel is unlikely to like it if Russia comes up with the idea of ​​sending Syrian and Iranian refugees to Jerusalem and Haifa. This would be more justified on the basis that Israel is committing aggressive actions against these countries ... You can also recommend that Israel and the Palestinians take care of ...

      And Israel does not put forward such ideas. And he never nominated, I am sure and will not nominate. So past the pocket.
  13. 123
    +4
    16 July 2020 07: 24
    It became interesting what kind of organization "Shah-Dag" was, I looked through the site.

    The main areas of activity of the organization:
    The non-profit organization Shah Dag is registered and has state registration established by the Israeli Law on Procedure.
    The main branches of the organizationas they are written on legal form are: religion culture and sports. Also our activities are aimed at the development of the Caucasian community in Israel, strengthening friendly relations between Turkic-speaking countries and the achievement of public goods.

    https://moreshetkvk.wixsite.com/shah-dag/about

    The organization is rather "pro-Azerbaijani" with an "anti-Armenian" orientation.

    Dear friends, our organization Shah Dag, headed by Mr. Elkhanan Raziel, who is the officially recognized head of the diaspora of Jews who came from Azerbaijan ........

    https://moreshetkvk.wixsite.com/shah-dag/home/page/3

    The issue of the Armenian genocide in the Israeli Knesset (the link is long, it is not difficult to find by the title on the website)
    The Shah Dag organization, led by Elhanan Raziel, approves of the development of these events and the fact that the Israeli parliament did not succumb to the propaganda of the leaders of the Armenian community.
    For several years now, the Shah Dag organization has been trying to influence the decision-making of the Israeli government and has been using no small means, as well as connections at the political level.
    Our organization does not deny that there was a massacre in Turkey in 1915 and that such things should never be repeated. Any violence, murder, should be condemned, especially when it concerns civilians, women and children. However, the use of the word "Genocide" and the recognition of genocide carries with it a different meaning, which in this situation is inappropriate for a number of reasons.

    What they have to do with refugees from Eritrea and Sudan is not clear. request Are they building relationships with Turkic-speaking countries? It would be logical to offer refugees to live in Turkey or Azerbaijan, but cunning Caucasian guys snatch them to Ramzan.
    The crux of the problem: There are just over 30 thousand (possibly more) refugees in Israel, mainly from Sudan and Eritrea. They have a residence permit, but the authorities are clearly not happy with them, about 1% have received refugee status, the rest are on their own.

    Ministry of Internal Affairs, State of Israel considers them "criminals"

    http://assaf.org.il/he/content/%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%91-0

    In general, they have a choice, 3 American money on hand and a touching goodbye or "pasta for dinner."
    Apparently, the Turks are not particularly happy with them either.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/ru/анализ-новостей/беженцев-из-африки-вынуждают-покинуть-израиль/1065899

    Is Russia interested in these wonderful people? I doubt it. Traditionally, migration flows to us come from somewhat different directions. If I'm not mistaken, about 10 million a year. Moreover, Russia has a rather indirect relationship to Sudan and Eritrea.
    In general, I believe that all these NGOs, wherever they come from, should be kicked out of Russia. They defend anyone's interests, but not ours.
  14. -4
    16 July 2020 11: 02
    Putin has already signed a decree on the acceptance of migrants in large numbers. In Volgograd, there were a lot of workers from the former USSR.
    Send blacks to Leningrad and Novgorod.
    1. 123
      +1
      16 July 2020 14: 53
      Putin has already signed a decree on the acceptance of migrants in large numbers. In Volgograd, there were a lot of workers from the former USSR.
      Negroes sent to Leningrad and Novgorod

      Do not leave fate at home? Be courageous and say that black lives are not important for you winked
      PS Leningrad was renamed. Have you been in your homeland for a long time?
      1. -1
        17 July 2020 09: 23
        Another Israeli? ... Something a lot of them began to burst into their former homeland ... Or maybe it's just trolls? from local ...
        1. 123
          0
          17 July 2020 10: 18
          Another Israeli? ... Something a lot of them began to burst into their former homeland ... Or maybe it's just trolls? from local ...

          Maybe local, but probably not. Yes, he is unlikely to "break" back. Rather, it's a matter of psychology.
          As a rule, an emigrant wants to hear confirmation of the correctness of his choice.
          1. +2
            23 July 2020 18: 15
            And this is also present! But the first ones are also enough here.
  15. +2
    16 July 2020 12: 46
    Again, the Jews crawled out with their wise ideas, that’s why they are loved in any country of the world, to always have a neighbor and put their problems on the neighbor.
    No, cut and accept the Africans in your circle, and what, there will be black Jews, but there will be order and tolerance, as you like.
  16. +1
    16 July 2020 12: 51
    Well done. There is nothing. Leave it to yourself.
  17. -2
    16 July 2020 13: 19
    Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
    And from what side does Russia touch the war in Sudan and Eritrea? That is who is involved in this business, let him receive "guests". In general, the stupidity of Europe and Israel is striking. If the money they spend on refugees is used to restore peace in the affected countries, a positive result could be obtained in the near future. It seems that someone makes a lot of money on migration.

    What is striking is not the "stupidity of Israel", as you somewhat presumptuously deigned to put it, but your demonstrative distortion of facts. According to the publication, there is even a non-governmental organization whose representative expressed his purely personal, and not official, point of view. And where is Israel? It is clear as God's day that Israel will never offer, and Russia will never take illegal immigrants from Sudan and Eritrea. For reference. Today, Israel's borders are completely fenced off with an electronic fence and appropriate surveillance equipment. Not a single illegal will enter the country, unless they cross the border officially and remain in Israel, using the visa-free regime (citizens of Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Georgia). But for illegal immigrants from Sudan and Eritrea, such a path is impossible. But there is a problem. Israel is trying to solve it by agreement with African countries, which agree to host illegal immigrants, pay for the flight and give each "guest" $ 3500. So sometimes it's better to be silent than to speak. Pause: eat the tweaks!
    1. +3
      17 July 2020 00: 13
      Listen, Tramp, respect to you and respect, you sit here alone for your defense !!! Why did you put a fence around, are you afraid of what?
    2. 0
      17 July 2020 09: 35
      But for illegal immigrants from Sudan and Eritrea, such a path is impossible.

      But they are! About 40 thousand, but there is. So - it is you who eat your tweaks and sometimes keep silent, than spread a deliberate lie. If you are not watching what is being said in Israel itself, then you would simply surf the net before writing what you wrote ...
      Source: Asaf Weizen, a human rights activist and activist for African refugees:

      There are about 65 million refugees in the world today. In Israel, this figure does not exceed 40 thousand, it is less than half a percent of the population, is the state unable to accept this group and avoid the shameful cadres of forced deportation?
  18. +3
    16 July 2020 13: 52
    Yes, they just want to freeze them, the nation of usurers just does not offer anything.
    1. -5
      16 July 2020 14: 52
      Quote: Siberian Southerner
      Yes, they just want to freeze them, the nation of usurers just does not offer anything.

      A nation of usurers, you say? And what about Israel's GDP, which is several times greater than Russia's, boosters that launch satellites, the best electronics, the Merkava tank, 80% of all drones produced in the world. And the usurers are special: Of the 900 Nobel Prize winners, 30% are Jews, and even more than 44% are world chess champions. And in the series of 100 great Jews, there was not enough room. Therefore, they are issued separately: 100 great Jews of Russia, Ukraine, Germany, USA, etc. You are a Siberian freak, however.))
      1. +4
        16 July 2020 18: 32
        And what are you talking about? Why are you here weaving tanks, chess and 100 great Jews. T-34, Katyusha, T-72, AK assault rifle, nuclear icebreakers, the deepest well in the world, Sakharov, Tupolev, Yakovlev, Mikoyan, Burdenko, Makarov ..... While you were playing chess there.
      2. +1
        16 July 2020 18: 36
        And what is the launch vehicle, specify?
      3. -3
        16 July 2020 19: 37
        And this is half of the Ryazan region and the almost complete absence of minerals and natural resources !!!!!! I think the main resource there is one ....
      4. +2
        17 July 2020 09: 38
        Are you proud to be moneylenders? Are you proud that nothing is sacred to you and that you are ready to rob everyone without exception? Well, well ... Go on ...
    2. -1
      16 July 2020 20: 27
      Quote: Siberian Southerner
      Yes, they just want to freeze them, the nation of usurers just does not offer anything.

      And what have you interwoven with the fact that the Jews are a "nation of usurers"? And you continue in the same context, citing, however, only a few Russian surnames of famous scientists. "While the Jews were playing chess ..." I do not even advise you to try with me, a representative of the "nation of usurers", to discuss the topic "who, where, when?" To begin with, about the great Jewish nuclear scientists. If you wish, name any industry, I emphasize - any - space, aircraft construction, whatever. I will name at least ten names of Jews to whom this industry generally owes its appearance, development, and fame. To begin with, about the great Jews atomic scientists. Go:
      Edward Teller, Niels Bohr, Leo Szilard, Robert Oppenheimer, Yakov Zeldovich, Julius Khariton, Otto Frisch, Stanislav Ulam, Rudolf Peierls, Bertrand Goldschmidt, Ernst Bergman, Robert Marshak, Lev Landau, Robert Feynman, John Holmanskop, Lev Landau , Richard Garvin, Marshall Rosenbluth, Herbert Anderson, Alexander Leipunsky, Isaac Pomeranchuk, Vitaly Ginzburg, David Fishman, Joseph Starik, Vladimir Merkin, Samuel Kormer, Yuri Zysin, David Frank Kamenetsky, Samuel Cohen.
      Peacocks, speak. Well, well ... The catch phrase from "White Sun of the Desert". A Jewish director, of course.
      1. +4
        16 July 2020 23: 43
        Well then, tell me why in 48 years of my life I have not met anything with the inscription Made in Izrail ... I agree, your achievements for your country command respect, and your own astronautics, army and the same Merkava, but this only causes pride in your territory ... If you are so great, why are you acting on the sly? Take the same Syria, hide behind other people's planes, shoot from foreign territories. Why don't you come out openly and show your greatness? So, sit on your promised land and do not teach others to live and what to do ...
        1. -2
          17 July 2020 14: 16
          And whose carrots and radishes from many chain stores do you eat?
  19. +1
    16 July 2020 15: 21
    That is, tolerant Americans with orthodox Jews - at first they arrange economic hardships and wars in Africa, and then they offer Russia to accept refugees from there ... I am tormented by vague doubts that they still want to excuse us ...
    1. +3
      16 July 2020 18: 34
      Yuri, to cheat is very gentle. laughing
  20. -1
    16 July 2020 20: 42
    Quote: Siberian Southerner
    And what is the launch vehicle, specify?

    It is a three-stage solid-propellant rocket. The first two stages are identical, have a weight of 13 tons each, and were mass-produced in Israel by the IAI concern. The third stage was built by Rafael, weighs about 2 tons, the stage engine runs for 88 seconds. The first and second stages are also used in the Jericho-2 rocket. Engines of the first and second stages sequentially launch the rocket to an altitude of about 100 km, and by inertia the rocket gains altitude up to 150 km. Then the engine of the third stage is switched on and injects the payload into an orbit with an altitude of 250 to 260 km.
    1. +3
      16 July 2020 23: 28
      In the same spirit, you say? Judaism puts all the points about usury ... Everywhere it is a sin, you have a sin only before the Jews, the rest can be ...
      1. +3
        16 July 2020 23: 48
        Take refugees for yourself .... What kind of GDP you have .... They will freeze in our country, but they will be fine with you ....
  21. +4
    16 July 2020 23: 42
    Israel is an African country itself. It is the Africans and the inhabitants of the South of the Middle East that are their genetic relatives, where the Israelis are like Chechens and Dagestanis to Europeans, so let low-class Israelis settle down in their refugees.
    1. +1
      16 July 2020 23: 53
      Jalil, you are in vain, about the sort of people, it is not for you and me to sort them. Otherwise I agree with you.
  22. -4
    16 July 2020 23: 52
    Quote: Siberian Southerner
    In the same spirit, you say? Judaism puts all the points about usury ... Everywhere it is a sin, you have a sin only before the Jews, the rest can be ...

    Any discussion presupposes an elementary level of culture, the absence of which I have to note in you (I do not stoop to amicosity). Discussion with boors in general, with you, as their outstanding representative, in particular, is not a priority for me. Adie - Bambino!)
    1. +1
      17 July 2020 00: 01
      I don’t know these words that you are inserting, as I understand it, for the sake of significance, speak as it is. I am not touchy, because I am cultured.
      1. +4
        17 July 2020 00: 03
        And where did I get nasty at you? Touchy.
      2. -3
        17 July 2020 00: 32
        Quote: Siberian Southerner
        I don’t know these words that you are inserting, as I understand it, for the sake of significance, speak as it is. I am not touchy, because I am cultured.

        I noticed it. If only they wrote with a dictionary, they would not disgrace themselves.
  23. -4
    17 July 2020 00: 31
    Quote: Siberian Southerner
    And where did I get nasty at you? Touchy.

    Young man, your mother as a child in Siberia, I see, did not teach you that it is customary to turn to strangers, older in age, to you. This is kondovy rudeness. The indiscriminate insult of the people, in this case the Jewish, is not rudeness, but anti-Semitism. So sin everywhere. And it is not interesting to argue with you. You don’t know a thing. Even the name of the Israeli launch vehicle - and then you ask. The function of giving money for growth has long been performed in the world by banks, and not by people, including state ones. This is the circulatory system of any state. I swear by Switzerland and I swear by Liechtenstein. Because lending is the engine of economic development. And further in the same spirit. About how Israel hid behind Cyprus, which was also covered by the crooked calculations of the Syrian air defense. And I will definitely tell our pilots that next time they throw back the cockpit canopy and honestly spit blotting paper through a tube into the enemy's left eye .... Seven Jews (seven Karl!) In Israel, Russian sturgeons are raised in the mountains. 3rd place in the world for the production of black caviar. A Jewish cow gives an average of 12 tons of milk per year, her Russian sister - 2-5 tons. Vegetables in Israel ripen simultaneously in one day and one hour, because the genes have learned to control. You do not need to collect twice. 160 kg of dates are collected from a palm tree, from neighbors ... 16 kg. Israel is the only country in the world where the number of trees increased from 4 million to 400 million, where they do not kill, from the word never, wild animals and have restored all the knocked out fauna. And water, by the way, is exported to other countries. In the absence of fresh water resources. Made in Israel is based on the Weiss system, on all US, Russian and EU spacecraft, on all electronics ... However, google "Israel takes place in the world by". Good luck in mastering the basics. I don’t think about more.
    1. +2
      17 July 2020 01: 25
      Yes, I'm just happy for you, fellows and your cows, and engineers ... Just live, harvest all at once in one day and do not meddle with your advice. We ourselves will decide where and whom we should settle, receive.
    2. -2
      17 July 2020 14: 25
      It's a pity that you can only put one plus. But you will not explain anything to "like", the lack of culture they admit is the smallest problem.
  24. +1
    17 July 2020 13: 57
    Let them be sent to Ukraine - there are now a lot of empty villages and cities.