Odessa may leave Russia after Crimea, confident in China

July 15 2020 43

The Ukrainian authorities are not doing anything in order to prevent the further collapse of the country. Crimea has already moved to Russia, and Odessa may be in line. This opinion is expressed by experts of the Chinese edition of Sohu.

Analysts from China believe that other areas, apart from Crimea, may break away from the Ukrainian state. The blame for everything is unstable economic и политическая situation in the country. In a 2014 referendum, Crimeans cast more than 90 percent of their votes for reunification with Russia - it seems that in Kiev they can’t consider this a fait accompli.

Then there was the likelihood of another region leaving the state - the Odessa region, but at that time Kiev was able to resist this. Now pro-Russian sentiments are again strong here, and if the authorities do not change their attitude towards the inhabitants of Odessa, they may lose this area as well. But Odessa is one of the leading economic regions of the country, and therefore it is extremely important for Ukraine.

The situation in the Odessa region is far from that which we would like to see in Kiev. Local residents are tired of anti-Russian hysteria, fired from the center - a small spark will be enough for Ukraine to forget about Odessa in its composition forever

- the correspondents of the Chinese edition are sure.

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Arkharov

-9

15 July 2020 11: 40

This opinion is expressed by experts of the Chinese edition of Sohu.

- is it loudly called, "confident in China"?
1. magma
  
  +4
  
  15 July 2020 12: 25
  
  Your comments are more primitive every time ...
  1. Arkharov
    
    -7
    
    15 July 2020 12: 56
    
    And it seems to me the content of local articles, and especially their headings. And I would also like to advise you not to wishful thinking.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov
      
      0
      
      16 July 2020 19: 57
      
      I agree with you, Even the neighboring LNR and DNR do not join the Russian Federation, although the people voted for accession, so what kind of conversation is about remote Odessa ... Kremlin sitters clearly work for themselves and their pocket, but not for Russian state interests, as in Kiev , - the same audience with Israeli roots ...
Bulanov

+8

15 July 2020 11: 57

But in Kiev, they think that Odessa, in which there are many Jews, will constantly look into the mouth of Westerners from Galicia, singing the wisdom of Bandera and Shukhevych, showing in 1941 in Lviv how they feel about Jews?
1. Arkharov
  
  -4
  
  15 July 2020 12: 59
  
  How worries you are the existence of almost any non-decaying state on the borders of the Russian Federation. Already eat, it seems, can not.
  1. Sapsan136
    
    +3
    
    15 July 2020 13: 28
    
    And as any positive thing for Russia makes you feel, you would have gone to your historical homeland, which was sick of Russophobia, and you hadn’t (suffered) here, eating Russian bread.
    1. Arkharov
      
      -4
      
      15 July 2020 13: 41
      
      Explain what kind of positive are you talking about?
      1. Sapsan136
        
        +3
        
        15 July 2020 14: 15
        
        About the unification of the lands on which the Russian population lives. For me and any Russian, it’s positive, but it makes you sad, so you would have gone home to your former republics of the former Soviet Union, which were sick with Russophobia, and didn’t spoil the life of yourself or the people around you whom you can’t stand and they don’t you have the same warm feelings caused by your Russophobia.
        
        Arkharov
        
        -4
        
        15 July 2020 18: 28
        
        And what methods, if not secret, do you suggest
        
        associations of lands on which the Russian population resides
        
        And if not only the Russian population lives on these lands at the same time, how do you propose to be?
        
        Sapsan136
        
        +3
        
        15 July 2020 22: 26
        
        And you do not know what to do and have always done with the invaders of foreign lands ?! They are destroyed, or forcibly evicted, like the Germans from Kaliningrad! Personally, I don’t feel sorry for those who committed the genocide of the Russian people ... in the former republics of the former union that separated from Russia, and stole its territories when they separated from Russia ... You have to pay for everything and the killers will pay, for every Russian child they kill in the Donbas on a national basis!
        
        Arkharov
        
        -3
        
        16 July 2020 08: 56
        
        You are very seriously ill.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -3
        
        16 July 2020 15: 14
        
        Ordinary fascism.
        
        Arkharov
        
        -5
        
        16 July 2020 16: 19
        
        Absolutely, only the like do not realize this, or do not want to be aware.
        
        bear040
        
        +2
        
        16 July 2020 21: 17
        
        You have arranged fascism for Russians in your republics that have separated from Russia, and now you do not like the fact that Russians hate those who robbed and killed them on ethnic grounds. There is nothing to blame on the mirror if the face is crooked ...
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        17 July 2020 00: 16
        
        Ehh ... I was born and have lived all my life in the RSFSR-RF. Dear Sapsan136 proposes to arrange genocide of the local population of Ukraine. This is not great. How do you distinguish a Ukrainian from a Russian? Especially in some Odessa.
        
        Sapsan136
        
        +3
        
        17 July 2020 15: 01
        
        We will distinguish, we were taught this, we are officers of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, although not so long ago we changed our uniform to the uniform of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation. Where you were born does not matter, the only important thing is which of you was raised by your parents, their views, transmitted by them to you and their nationality. As for the genocide of the local Ukrainian population, firstly, it is not local, but alien, and secondly, the genocide of the Russian population, which is indigenous in the Donbass and Kharkiv region, was arranged by Ukraine and Ukrainians, who are suffering from Russophobia.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        17 July 2020 15: 49
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        We will distinguish, we were taught this, we are officers of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, although not so long ago we changed our uniform to the uniform of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation.
        
        Directly taught to distinguish Ukrainian from Russian? Come on.
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        Where you were born does not matter, the only important thing is which of you was raised by your parents, their views, transmitted by them to you and their nationality.
        
        One grandfather is a Kuban Cossack, a Russian grandmother, another grandfather is Belarusian, a Ukrainian grandmother. What nationality do you think I am? I consider myself Russian.
        The views of my parents are very different from mine.
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        Ukrainian population, then, firstly, it is not local, but alien,
        
        You don't know history well. Several thousand years ago, the common ancestors of Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians settled in the territory of modern Ukraine, and have been living there ever since. For that matter, the ancestors of the Russians directly settled in the territories of modern central Russia much later. Then all of us are not local - Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians.
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        the genocide of the Russian population, which is indigenous in the Donbass and Kharkiv region, was organized by Ukraine and Ukrainians, who are suffering from Russophobia.
        
        How will you differ from them, if you arrange genocide yourself, the more the genocide of Russians in Ukraine occurred only in your (here I agree with respected Arkhar), head.
        
        Sapsan136
        
        +3
        
        17 July 2020 16: 11
        
        Yes, we taught and our theoretical knowledge was supplemented by practical service in the Caucasus, so let's figure it out. You are not Russian, Russians do not tear their ass for foreign countries. You look at you and you understand why there was a question about relatives abroad in the Soviet questionnaires. Yeah, and the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea ... But the truth is that your Ukraine became part of Russia within the borders of 1654, that's what you came with, that's yours, and in other territories you are invaders. In general, all your behavior resembles a well-known anecdote about UKROPs and a phrase from it - And what about me? But for that very thing ... for Odessa and Donbass, for Osh and so on, for the apartments squeezed from the Russians on a national basis, for the murders and robberies committed by your Bandera and Basmachi beasts ...
        
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        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        21 July 2020 11: 59
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        Yes, we taught and our theoretical knowledge was supplemented by practical service in the Caucasus, so let's figure it out.
        
        You frighten me, there is no Ukrainian among the Caucasian peoples. How were you taught to look for them there, and even more so in practice?
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        You are not Russian, Russians do not tear their ass for foreign countries.
        
        I, too, cannot believe that a Russian person, knowing what horrors the Nazi invaders were doing during the Great Patriotic War with his people, can profess Nazi views. But looking at you, we see what it can.
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        And the truth is that your Ukraine became part of Russia within the borders of 1654, that's what you came with, that's yours, and in other territories you are invaders.
        
        This is not true, this is nonsense. In cities, everything is complicated, but in the villages of most of the inhabitants, the ancestors settled in those places long before the division of the Rus into Ukrainians, Russians and Belarusians.
        
        Quote: Sapsan136
        But for that very thing ... for Odessa and Donbass, for Osh and so on, for the apartments squeezed from the Russians on a national basis, for the murders and robberies committed by your Bandera and Basmachi beasts ...
        
        Who are you talking to?
        Please tell me why you were so excited by Ukraine, although the genocide of the Russians happened there only in your head, but Central Asia does not, where the deprivation of apartments, the murder and robberies of Russians were a reality? And even more so Chechnya, where did the real genocide take place?
        
        Sapsan136
        
        +4
        
        24 July 2020 11: 26
        
        Ukraine and Ukrainians fought against the Russian Federation in the Caucasus. Bandits from the UPA, such as Korchinsky, Mazur, Bobrovich and others like them, have never hidden that their gang fought against the Russian Federation in Chechnya, and Ukraine refused to hand over this beast at the request of the Russian prosecutor's office. In Ossetia, the Ukrainian army fought against the Russian Federation on the side of Georgia, and it was the Ukrainians who shot down the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and not the Georgian shepherds, for which they received apartments from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. And Bandera during the Second World War were hanged and today they will end the same way. This is the truth, which the DUKROPS don't like, but these are your problems. And how does Bandera's Ukraine differ from the Basmachi Asian republics of the former USSR? Yes, nothing! In Odessa, back in the 90s, on the basis of Soviet missile boats, those who refused to take the Ukrainian oath were killed and robbed. More were killed there than in Crimea in 2014. The genocide in Chechnya took place with the direct participation of Ukraine and Ukrainians.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        25 July 2020 10: 54
        
        You are such a dreamer, this is something. Yes, yes, yes, I remember you told about the XNUMX-strong group of Ukrainians who fought in Chechnya. Imagine, Ukraine does not extradite its citizens to foreign countries. The Russian Federation, of course, is not like that, on the first demand it gives up its citizens.
        As I say, genocide is only in your head.
        Yes, one person died in Crimea in 2014.
        
        Sapsan136
        
        +3
        
        26 July 2020 10: 09
        
        Several people died in Crimea in 2014. Several people were killed by Islamic scumbags. Many more were killed in Odessa. In Chechnya and Ossetia, 50000 UKROPs fought against the Russian Federation, according to the FSB of the Russian Federation.
        
        bear040
        
        +2
        
        16 July 2020 21: 21
        
        It’s you who are sick with Russophobia and you don’t like the fact that in Russia, slowly but surely, a chicken dies who laid Russophobes with golden eggs. Get used to a new reality. They forgot how the Russians squeezed apartments in Alma-Ata, how they cut Russians in Osh, how they burned in Odessa ... One has to answer for everything in this life ...
        
        Vladimir Tuzakov
        
        0
        
        18 July 2020 14: 09
        
        Voting and referendum will put everything in its place. Here Slavic unity is a very correct idea for Russia, which is living in an incomprehensible thieves' pseudo-democracy, with the laws created by the enemies of Russia. Therefore, the younger generation does not understand the meaning of life in this liberal Sodom and Gomorrah.
  2. Bulanov
    
    +2
    
    15 July 2020 13: 30
    
    For Arkhars:
    - And you, it seems, are very pleased with the collapse of the USSR, contrary to the will of the people of this state and hundreds of thousands of innocent victims of this collapse. Already the appetite has improved.
    1. Arkharov
      
      -2
      
      15 July 2020 13: 42
      
      There was not a word about the USSR, as always - speculation.
Sapsan136

+6

15 July 2020 12: 52

Odessa was built on the lands conquered by the Russian army from Turkey, by decree of the Russian Tsar and Russian money, so Ukraine has nothing to do there! Odessa is the territory of Russia temporarily occupied by Ukraine!
1. Sergey Tokarev
  
  +1
  
  16 July 2020 05: 28
  
  The territory ... inhabitants of Odessa, looking into everyone's mouth, can be left. Their homeland is where profit is.
King3214

-4

15 July 2020 13: 00

And why is Russia so happy, the Chinese did not tell?
As a citizen of Russia, it is not at all obvious to me that the annexation of the territories "memorized" by Ukrainians is a blessing for Russia.
(Crimea is the only exception that, throughout all the years of the Ukrainian occupation, has consistently shown itself to be not Ukraine, at least according to the results of the vote.)
1. Michael1950
  
  -4
  
  15 July 2020 15: 40
  
  As a citizen of Russia, it is not at all obvious to me that the annexation of the territories "memorized" by Ukrainians is a blessing for Russia.
  
  What is this stupidity - "memorized" ?! I had three khokhlushki - one more beautiful than the other!
  But the character of the two was - just Bandera!
  1. King3214
    
    +5
    
    15 July 2020 17: 03
    
    What did you have - three Ukrainians or who - I am not interested.
    In Russia I do not need the "Ukrainians" invented in 1914. Why in Russia can you explain the stupid ones who call themselves the invented word "Ukrainian" (just not to be called Russian)?
    1. Michael1950
      
      -5
      
      15 July 2020 22: 56
      
      Apparently because they have some kind of language ... not quite Russian ... In Russia, another hundred nationalities live and all have some kind of their own language (oddly enough).
      
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80
      %D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9
      
      And there are some Belarusians next to Russia, and they also have their own language!
      1. King3214
        
        +4
        
        15 July 2020 23: 06
        
        The prisoners in the zone also have their own fenya, maybe you can call them a nation?
        
        Michael1950
        
        -6
        
        16 July 2020 00: 27
        
        And the Bulgarians - who do they belong to? After all, the Bulgarian language is closer to the Old Church Slavonic than the modern Russian language! And the Russians for 250 years under the Tatar-Mongols have slightly "oozed out", so it is the Ukrainians who can more likely claim to be called ethnic Russians than the Great Russians themselves ...
        
        King3214
        
        +3
        
        16 July 2020 01: 52
        
        Until 1914, there was no mention of Ukrainians.
        Stop talking nonsense.
        
        Michael1950
        
        -6
        
        16 July 2020 01: 54
        
        Literate ..., would you drop in Google sometimes, or something, before talking nonsense?
        
        King3214
        
        0
        
        16 July 2020 09: 10
        
        In the same Google there is an option, a search by the frequency of the use of words in print media, by years. And before 1914, Google did not find any mention of "Ukrainians" in the world's print media published before 1914.
        So look, let American Google cleanse your brains, if he himself is ready to believe in any lying nonsense and is not able to think critically or verify information.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
        0
        
        16 July 2020 05: 30
        
        Bulgarians are Turkic people, Slavs are a language group, Ukrainians are more likely to be Jews.
    2. bear040
      
      +2
      
      16 July 2020 21: 24
      
      Bandera is not needed in Russia, and Odessa Russia will come in handy. Germans were evicted from Kaliningrad, no one bothers to expel Bandera and Basmachi from the Russian Federation, they have no place in the Russian Federation!
  2. Sergey Tokarev
    
    -1
    
    16 July 2020 05: 29
    
    And all three are stupid, like traffic jams))) There are no geniuses among them.
    1. Michael1950
      
      -3
      
      16 July 2020 16: 15
      
      Among whom are there no geniuses?
      1. Sergey Tokarev
        
        -1
        
        16 July 2020 16: 17
        
        And what, among the aborigines of "Baboon" they are? Or Korolev and Paton Little Russians?)))