Changing the status of the North Crimean Canal can help solve the water problem

July 10 2020 29

The decision of the Ukrainian authorities to block the North Crimean Canal entailed many problems for Crimeans, including the technical plan. But they can be resolved by changing the status of the structure. This is explained by the Eurasia Review.

With the closure of the canal in 2014, the supply of Crimean residents with water decreased by 80 percent. This further worsened relations between Kiev and Moscow. A heated discussion flared up around technical sides of the issue of blocking the North Crimean Canal. Following this decision, Ukraine announced the need to build a dam near the border with Crimea. However, it was not possible to complete the work due to a lack of necessary funds. Thus, even if they want to open the channel, it will be impossible to do technically.

In addition, the construction itself needs reconstruction, since it was built in the 60s of the last century - the wear of the equipment makes itself felt. At the aquifers there are motors installed here back in the 70s. Works on updating the structure also require large financial investments, which Kiev does not have.

However, there is one legal loophole that will immediately solve all the problems of providing Crimea with water:

Earlier, Ukrainian authorities lifted the ban on the sale of the channel in private hands. In technical terms, after the completion of the dam and the privatization of the North Crimean Canal, the water supply to the peninsula will resume. Thus, changing the status of the canal will solve the problem of Crimea's water supply in favor of Russia

- believe American experts.

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gorenina91

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10 July 2020 17: 06

Changing the status of the North Crimean Canal can help solve the water problem

- Yes, this will not solve ...
-If the Americans want; then let them buy from Ukraine its part of the North Crimean Canal ... - And then; and then they will sell poisoned water to the buckets of Crimea ...
- Personally, I am sure ... that the topic is closed with the North Crimean Canal until all of it becomes part of Russian territory ...
- Then the "water problem" in Crimea will be really removed ...
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123

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10 July 2020 18: 09

... American experts believe ...
They are such entertainers - these are American experts.
It’s interesting to hear who are going to sell the channel, whose hairy private hands? Is it not Biden Jr. by chance, or some other descendant of "noble families"?
Knowing the habits of jumpers and their owners, they probably want to snatch a canal for free, then they will offer Russia to clean and repair all this garbage (at least invest), and then they will want to tear money for water at the rates of the best European resorts.
Soon, according to the same scheme, DneproGES will start offering, if they have time before destruction.
No, really. Themselves. All by yourself. According to a proven recipe. A bucket of blue paint, a bucket of yellow, gallop until the morning. Must earn.
Alexey Semenenko

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10 July 2020 21: 20

The ban on privatization has not been lifted from the Channel. It didn't work out "on the quiet".
Therefore, wet dreams are about nothing.

By the way. Pumping equipment, that raises water to the level of Crimea, was produced in Ukraine back in the 60s. There are no analogues. The existing things were destroyed and plundered in six years. The channel of the Canal in Crimea is full of holes. If right now, "blow up" the dam in Kherson, the water will not reach further Dzhankoy.
Dmitry S.

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11 July 2020 06: 47

Those. Americans offer someone to pay Kiev for an empty canal, so that then the new owner would wait until it rains?
1. Alexey Semenenko
  
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  11 July 2020 10: 34
  
  Offer to return the Crimea.
  Even if the Canal were privatized, water would not have come to the Island. Many docks.
Netyn

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11 July 2020 08: 51

Quote: 123
They are such entertainers - these American experts

These are relatives of British scientists.
Natan bruk

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11 July 2020 11: 13

In fact, in this situation, the only solution to the problem is desalination. But there are no technologies for building large desalination plants in Russia and it is also problematic to buy money, plus there should be enough generating capacities - these plants require a lot of electricity. And what is being done now - pumping out artesian waters to the fullest, will lead to a rapid rise in salt water and salinization of the soil. Then it will be much worse than in the 50s, before the construction of the canal - then artesian waters did not pump in such volumes.
1. 123
  
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  11 July 2020 19: 19
  
  In fact, in this situation, the only solution to the problem is desalination. But there are no technologies for building large desalination plants in Russia, and it is also problematic to buy money, plus there should be enough generating capacities - these plants require a lot of electricity.
  
  This is the only solution, no technology, no money, no electricity? What a game. That is, in Russia there is no electricity and can’t scrape up money for a desalination plant?
  It sounds like - in Israel the forest industry is not developed because there is no technology, no money, and most importantly - there are not enough brains to rectify the situation. Surely you can grow a forest in Israel too, the question is - is it worth it?
  Desalination technologies in Russia are available and new ones are being developed; there is no urgent need for the construction of desalination plants. Let me explain, it would seem that the problem for the southern regions is acute, take and build desalination plants, but there is one question - economic feasibility. In the same Crimea, the provision of drinking water needs is possible without desalination. The use of sea water is necessary primarily for the development of agriculture. The situation with the availability of agricultural land in Russia and Israel is somewhat different, the decision to grow crops in Crimea at any cost is quite controversial. The use of desalinated water is likely to affect production costs in a bad way.
  The available technologies are energy-consuming, require a large number of "consumables", the same membranes, filters, chemical reagents are required.
  We’ll see if something interesting happens between Rosatom and the Chinese.
  
  https://rosatom.ru/journalist/smi-about-industry/novyy-metod-opresneniya-vody-dlya-yuga-rossii-razrabatyvayut-uchenye-rf-i-knr/
  
  In the meantime, we must closely deal with the rational use of available water resources. To learn how to use water economically, to develop wastewater treatment and reuse technologies.
  1. Natan bruk
    
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    11 July 2020 19: 31
    
    In order not to tell you for a long time, ask how it was in the Crimea until the mid-50s. Here at the very beginning of the article it is said that about 80% of the water Crimea received from Ukraine. And large desalination plants are not at all the same as “desalination plants. Such technologies were simply not needed before, and those that are are not suitable here. Ship desalination is another. This was in the USSR at Mangyshlak, but there other scales and nuclear power plants in the Crimea are excluded. And there is, of course, electricity in Russia, but that energy bridge and its own capacities are end-to-end, so where to get desalination? Although about the cost of desalinated water - it is not so huge - in Israel, for example, they completely reduce the debit with credit and now they do not depend on external sources, and even pump water into the Palestinian Authority and Jordan.
    1. 123
      
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      11 July 2020 19: 37
      
      Although about the cost of desalinated water - it is not so huge - in Israel, for example, they completely reduce the debit with credit and now they do not depend on external sources, and even pump water into the Palestinian Authority and Jordan.
      
      Let's start with the main thing, how much does it cost? What is the cost of desalinated water? Well, the cost of the plant with a power plant. Without these numbers, everything else is lyrics.
      By the way, selling water from the Crimea to neighbors will be problematic.
      1. Natan bruk
        
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        12 July 2020 07: 45
        
        Give you the whole layout, income, expense? Ok I will look. They didn’t build a power plant specifically for the factories (there is more than one plant), they managed the existing ones, everything is in order with the generating capacities in Israel - for example, the Israeli power system is 600 (!)% More powerful than the neighboring Jordanian one. Yes, by the way, they don’t sell water supplied to Jordanians - they pump a certain amount for free under the terms of a peace treaty. Palestinians do not pay for it either. But the factories were built with a large supply of power, so they are still not used at full capacity. As for the Crimea, in the 50s, before the construction of the canal, the population was much smaller, and industry could not be compared, that is, there was a big shortage of water then, but groundwater was pumped in incomparably smaller amounts than now. But you cannot deceive geology, and at such rates of water withdrawal, salinization of groundwater and soil is a matter of the near future. Well, there is no other way to provide Crimea with water other than desalination. Reuse is, of course, very correct, but you can’t solve this problem, and this also requires considerable investment. Pipeline from the mainland is excluded - where to get water from? In the Kuban, the deficit itself. To pump underground water to the fullest - I already wrote that it will, but actually, is already going.
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        12 July 2020 07: 54
        
        By the way, about the forests in Israel that you mentioned - imagine that they are in Israel, and in the north of Israel they are, and there are many of them. Artificially planted. And yes, it was worth it.
        
        123
        
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        12 July 2020 10: 00
        
        By the way, about the forests in Israel that you mentioned - imagine that they are in Israel, and in the north of Israel they are, and there are many of them. Artificially planted. And yes, it was worth it.
        
        Do not distort, I wrote about the forest industry. Planting a forest is good, another thing is to try to cut it there and make something out of it. How industrial felling will begin, write, discuss. Is it worth it.
        
        123
        
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        12 July 2020 10: 16
        
        I am glad that everything is fine with the energy sector and with the provision of water, and all that. It's not a bit about that. Learned to desalinate water, well done. As far as I remember, sometime before 2010, the drought was decent, which, in fact, served as an impetus for the development of desalination, and the climate itself has this.
        As for Russia, the situation is quite new, and it is artificially created. There is a problem, then they will decide, you just need a little time. Magically, nothing instantly appears from the void. Desalination required? This means that they will develop a technology suitable for local conditions. Israeli in this case should not be considered at all, all the same, overseas "partners" will not allow him to sell for Crimea.
        In the meantime, we must learn to rationally use the available water resources and approach this pragmatically.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        12 July 2020 10: 57
        
        There are two ways. The first is to get water in order to continue to grow rice for the needs of the Little Russians, but is it necessary when they can use cheaper Chinese plastic? And the second way: remember what crops were grown before the canal. Crimea did not seem to suffer from a lack of water. Tatars lived there, the Greeks and Rurik rested while being baptized))) Without water, you can engage in shipbuilding, tourism and fishing for sea fish. Let Ukrainians catch crayfish in the Dnieper ...
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        12 July 2020 11: 12
        
        It’s better to let Moscow catch up on tourism, and ukroservice repels tourists.
        
        123
        
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        12 July 2020 12: 51
        
        I’m talking about this. To build a desalination plant for growing rice is a rather controversial decision. If 80% of the water flowed through the canal, now they somehow manage to do without it, then so much water was really needed, in my opinion, the question is logical.
        I don’t know what about Rurik, in my opinion, Vladimir was baptized there, but there were clearly fewer people living in Crimea at that time. The population, of course, is growing, and with it the need for water, but we must learn to use it rationally.
        The approach should be comprehensive.
        If a toxic lake is formed in the production of titanium and water is needed to prevent an environmental disaster, then such a production should be modernized or closed. I doubt that in Germany or Ukraine there would be such a loyal attitude towards Russian investors. Should we desalinate water so that citizen Firtash and German partners continue to calmly pollute nature further? Let them move to the treatment and reuse of water for the needs of the enterprise. As a temporary solution, they could fill the lake with plastic balls to reduce the evaporation area. Somewhere I already wrote, in my opinion, in California they do this on reservoirs.
        Reconstruction of water supply infrastructure is needed. Loss of water during transportation is simply huge. About agriculture has already been said.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        12 July 2020 15: 35
        
        By Rurik, I meant the last name. And the Sumerians cannot give water physically. Firstly, gateways without motors, and secondly, they do not have water, but sewerage.
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        12 July 2020 17: 07
        
        Actually, water in the Crimea was always bad, however, as in most southern coastal cities .. Another thing is that up to the 50s there were much fewer people there, I’m not talking about industry. They pumped artesian water, but in incomparable volumes. At today's pumping rates, salinization is a matter of the near future.
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        12 July 2020 17: 02
        
        To use rationally is, of course, correct, but it does not solve the problem. They cannot forbid overseas partners to sell anything that does not have American technology, and there is no such technology in desalination plants .. Israel won’t vote in the UN for the well-known resolution and did not impose sanctions, and somehow there was nothing for him . He also did not recognize the independence of Kosovo and still officially considers it part of Serbia, and again no consequences. So, with alliance with the United States, Israel is a fairly independent state, and if asked to sell, it could very well have happened .. Well, still desalination appeared in Israel long before 2010, Eilat received exclusively desalinated water long before that. As for the Crimea and a little time - still 6 years have passed, probably, it was necessary to do this right away, and not to pretend that everything is in order, and then rush to find solutions.
        
        123
        
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        12 July 2020 18: 23
        
        To use rationally is, of course, correct, but it does not solve the problem. They cannot forbid overseas partners to sell anything in which there is no American technology, and there are no such technologies in desalination plants.
        
        Are there many American technologies in Siemens turbines? Something tells me, and in the Nord Stream, not everything is based on American technology.
        The United States is still Israel's main "roof", free military aid and so on. I doubt that Israel will fidget under the "striped mattress".
        
        Well, still, desalination in Israel appeared long before 2010, Eilat long before that received exclusively desalinated water. As for the Crimea and “a little time - yet 6 years have passed, probably, it was necessary to do this right away, and not to pretend that everything is in order, and then search for solutions urgently.
        
        It appeared, only desalination received additional development after the drought. Or I'm wrong? People are everywhere people until the roasted cock pecks ..... So in the Crimea, maybe at first they hoped that the issue would be resolved, then they seemed to be coping with it, a dry period came .... I think they will solve the problem now .
        In Israel, of course, they desalinated before 2010, but there a problem with water a little earlier formed.
        
        Once, during a terrible famine that devastated Israel, the king and Obadiah were on the road. Long-term drought destroyed almost all grass and dried springs; in order to save his horses, exhausted from hunger and thirst, the king and his subject decided to look for a source somewhere, and in order to be successful, they went in different directions. Elijah, led by the Spirit of God, went out to meet the pious Israelite
        
        And note, not one of them went towards the desalination plant.
        
        Since then, the problem has not been completely resolved; the word "arid" occurs quite often in the geographical outline.
        
        https://eleven.co.il/land-of-israel/geography/11757/
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        12 July 2020 19: 56
        
        I already wrote - the roof is a roof, but independence is enough. How do you explain the fact that Israel did not vote for the well-known resolution and did not impose any sanctions, while at the same time there was absolutely nothing from the United States? Again, the non-recognition of Kosovo there. So, if necessary, he fidgets himself completely. You read about AIPAC and its influence, not a single US president can cooperate with him. At the same time, I want to note that until the 70s, the United States helped Israel a little less than nothing. Then they realized what horse to put on, but the “great-mighty” did not, threw away billions and lost a lot of people with a known result. It’s me that the US-Israel relationship is not at all what was in the Warsaw Pact, there the “allies” were nothing more than puppets, a step to the side - execution ... Israel, by the way, sold the license for Russian drones and now “Outpost ”And“ Zastava ”are the main Russian drones, their own everyone is bugging. Again, what kind of Israel was this? The last paragraph, about the king, is generally enchanting. So, do Crimeans need to engage in any divine desalination, but simply stock up on the Spirit of God?
        
        123
        
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        13 July 2020 04: 21
        
        I already wrote - the roof is a roof, but independence is enough. How do you explain the fact that Israel did not vote for the well-known resolution and did not impose any sanctions, while at the same time there was absolutely nothing from the US Again, the non-recognition of Kosovo there. So, if necessary, he fidgets himself completely. You read about AIPAC and its influence, not a single US president can cooperate with him.
        
        For sanctions did not vote? So, in Israel, resolutions are born regularly, they constantly require sanctions, it is somehow inconvenient to vote for sanctions for others. Wisely abstained.
        You’d better not tell me about the Israeli lobby in the USA, but about trade relations with Crimea.
        Kosovo is not recognized? So is Crimea too.
        
        At the same time, I want to note that until the 70s, the United States helped Israel a little less than nothing. Then they realized what horse to put on, but the “great-mighty” did not, threw away billions and lost a lot of people with a known result.
        
        Your horse herself stood under a cowboy’s saddle. Does it not seem strange to you if the "great-mighty" tried to put a horse in someone else's stable?
        
        Israel, by the way, has sold the license for Russian drones, and now Outpost and Zastava are the main Russian drones, all of which are their own. Again, what kind of Israel was this?
        
        Israel will sell weapons to anyone, If anything, the "North remembers" about Georgia, for some reason, an anecdote was recalled:
        
        - Why aren't you shooting ???
        - The cartridges are over.
        - I can sell the drawers.
        
        However, this was before any sanctions.
        By the way, "Outpost", only the appearance remained from the old one.
        
        The last paragraph, about the king, is generally enchanting. So, do Crimeans need to engage in any divine desalination, but simply stock up on the Spirit of God?
        
        Do not take everything so seriously, I meant that the desert in Israel did not appear yesterday, but for Russia, the problem is rather new. Probably, you can stock up on the "Spirit of God", or you can look for other options.
        
        Do not judge strictly, we are still learning.
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        13 July 2020 08: 32
        
        You also recognize the Crimea? Okay, recognize the Golan as Israeli and Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, we immediately recognize the Crimea. But our horse got up under the saddle when the great mighty yelled about the terrible Zionism and began to pump up our enemies with weapons. As for the sale of arms to anyone, Russia does it right and left - it sells to Azerbaijan and Armenia, and there are many such examples. And as for Georgia, well, let's remember how the USSR, and then Russia bombarded the Arabs with weapons. Another thing is that the horse does not feed. Well, “Outpost” is the same “Searcher”, there are no fundamental changes there and without Israel today there would be no drones at all. And the desert, of course, did not appear yesterday, but generally in the Russian coastal southern cities it was always bad with water. They decided differently, more often pulled the water pipe from the nearest large river, but in the Crimea the situation is completely different.
        
        123
        
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        13 July 2020 11: 45
        
        You also recognize the Crimea? Okay, recognize the Golan as Israeli and Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, we immediately recognize the Crimea.
        
        Thank you, nothing is required of you. I simply explained why Israel did not recognize Kosovo.
        
        But our horse got up under the saddle when the great mighty yelled about the terrible Zionism and began to pump up our enemies with weapons.
        
        That is, the "great and mighty" first "yelled" about Zionism, then "pumped up with weapons", and only then did they put their backs under the saddle? I don’t think it’s worth figuring out which came first, the egg or the chicken. There will be no sense from this.
        
        As for the sale of arms to anyone, Russia does it right and left - it sells to Azerbaijan and Armenia, and there are many such examples. And as for Georgia, well, let's remember how the USSR, and then Russia bombarded the Arabs with weapons. Another thing is that the horse does not feed.
        
        Russia bombarded with weapons of Arabs, USA Israel. There is no vacuum in nature. And I mentioned about Georgia, so as not to be surprised if in the fall weapons go to Iran. In the horse feed or not, not the most important thing, in modern times the process itself is important. The horses always want to eat. Just a business.
        
        Well, “Outpost” is the same “Searcher”, there are no fundamental changes there and without Israel today there would be no drones at all.
        
        What fundamental changes are there? All the insides were replaced by their own and all that is business.
        
        https://glavportal.com/materials/voennye-raskryli-vozmozhnosti-rossijskogo-udarnogo-bpla-forpost-m
        
        Unmanned aerial vehicles would have been without Israel, and Russia was decently behind that period, but in the end they would have done without it. Perhaps it would take more time and effort, but the result could be only one.
        
        And the desert, of course, did not appear yesterday, but generally in the Russian coastal southern cities it was always bad with water. They decided differently, more often pulled the water pipe from the nearest large river, but in the Crimea the situation is completely different.
        
        And how is she different? The same conduit. Before the coup, everything worked.
        
        Natan bruk
        
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        13 July 2020 19: 59
        
        1) I still do not understand - why, in your opinion, Israel did not recognize Kosovo?
        2) That's right - Stalin started a whistle with "rootless cosmopolitans" and "international Zionism" when he realized that Israel would not be a Soviet satellite. And with that time, Israel had pretty cool relations with the United States and there was no special help.
        3) The United States began to deliver weapons to Israel much later than the USSR to the Arabs, Israel won the Six Day War without any help from the United States, moreover, the American reconnaissance ship was drowned on suspicion of draining information to the Arabs. So, at that moment there was just a vacuum, but contrary to it, Israel defeated Soviet protégés. And the food was not on horseback, since all these mountains of weapons were supplied to the Arabs not for money, but for “proper orientation”. Business began after the USSR. And even then, depending on whom, Syria is also doing everything for free, more precisely - for the opportunity to have a base and point of influence in the Mediterranean. And as for Iran - yes put on health, he pays the money. For now. Only there will not be much use for this weapon.
        4) Would drones be without Israel? Well, where are they? So far, only bravura statements, there is nothing in the troops yet. As for the replacement of the insides - this is also mainly a solution, in reality the bulk of these drones are used in their original form.
        5) So in one and the other water conduit, that is, the canal, it’s been gone for 6 years, and they started to move only now.
2. igor.igorev
  
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  12 July 2020 11: 40
  
  And what needs to be done? Give Crimea to Ukraine? So it reads between your lines.
igor.igorev

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12 July 2020 11: 39

How much can I suck this topic with CCM? In any case, it is not suitable for work. There, probably, 50-60% of water losses. Part just evaporates, and the second part goes into the ground. There’s no point in buying water for this canal, and indeed there is no point in buying water in Ukraine. Cheaper and easier to build desalination plants.
Dmitry Malikov

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12 July 2020 20: 43

Buy someone a canal in which there is and will not be water. They will also impose fines, checks, and lawsuits. Although if Petya or some other correct oligarch buys for a pittance and dumps 500% of the markup, then there will be water, and even the "nationalists" will intercede to protect him from the aggressor. :))