"Actual declaration of war": PNS rejected the ultimatum of Egypt


Representatives of the army of the Government of National Accord of Libya announced their determination to attack the city of Sirte and liberate it from the LNA troops, despite protests from Cairo. The capture of Sirte for Egypt, according to President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, is a kind of "red line". However, the PNS rejected the ultimatum of Egypt. It is reported by the publication Middle East Monitor.


Salah al-Din al-Namrush, deputy defense minister of the PNS, emphasized that no “red lines” would stop Saraj’s forces from moving forward. According to him, the goal of Tripoli is to defeat the "Haftarovites" and expel them from Sirte.

Egypt is gradually becoming part of the Libyan conflict. The intersection of the "red lines" indicated by the ARE may lead to the beginning of full-scale military participation of Egyptian troops in the war in northern Africa.

PNS must know their place and understand with whom they are in dialogue. Egypt shows patience, but it is not unlimited, and the country's authorities will immediately respond to any threat to the national interests of the Arab Republic

- said the representative of the Egyptian Foreign Ministry.

On Saturday, June 20, al-Sisi announced that his country has the legal right to intervene in the military confrontation in Libya, as Egypt’s territory is in danger of attacks from mercenary terrorists supported by other countries. Representatives of the PNS called the words of the Egyptian leader “an actual declaration of war” on the official Tripoli by Cairo.
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  1. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 26 June 2020 18: 50
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    Ethiopia rejected, Libya rejected, where should poor Sisi go?
    Soon, no one will take him seriously.
    1. Piramidon Offline
      Piramidon (Stepan) 27 June 2020 19: 08
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      Quote: 123
      Ethiopia rejected, Libya rejected, where should poor Sisi go?
      Soon, no one will take him seriously.

      So let's see what material Faberge made from Sisi.
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 27 June 2020 20: 38
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        So let's see what material Faberge made from Sisi.

        I believe there will not be such an opportunity, because he does not intend to demonstrate them, he will speak bellicose speeches and scratch the very same Faberge, this will be all.
  2. Mars Offline
    Mars (Mars) 26 June 2020 19: 27
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    Let them help, and ours can also be sent, crush the government nat. accord with their bandits, kick Turkey out of there.
    1. Binder Offline
      Binder (Miron) 26 June 2020 22: 56
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      The fling did not grow. In Syria, the Turks put on the Russian Federation, and in Libya they do what they want. laughing
      1. Mars Offline
        Mars (Mars) 26 June 2020 23: 44
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        Выросла еще как. Турки злятся, что они ничего толком сделать не могут. Сирийцы медленно, но верно отвоевывают, а у турок все встало, залезли в Сирию, теперь не знают что делать. В Ливии вопрос времени. На 2 фронта тяжко воевать, в Сирии, Ливии, конфликт с Грецией, Францией. Курды, да и еще с Россией ссориться не захотят. Вы все хотите быстро и сразу, а так не бывает.
        1. Binder Offline
          Binder (Miron) 27 June 2020 05: 37
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          The Turks in Syria occupied the areas in the north-west, inhabited mainly by Turkoman, who are the same Turks, and there is no need to go further and they clearly know what they are doing. And after the exemplary destruction of the "Shell" and other equipment by their drones, Russia will not quarrel with them - it will cost more to itself. In Libya, the situation of Haftar, whom Russia supports, is much worse than Assad’s in Damascus today. But I want, in fact, world peace, but my desire, unfortunately, is not feasible.
          1. Mars Offline
            Mars (Mars) 27 June 2020 07: 52
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            В Сирии не только турки что-то заняли, там и американцы, британцы, французы. Курды отхапали и создали свою автономию. Что касается уничтожения Панцирей, почитайте мнение военных о том, как в умелых руках Панцирь превращается в грозное оружие. Войны без потерь не бывает. Скорее, с Россией ссориться не захотят, сейчас не 90. У нас другая внешняя политика. Мир будет, когда англосаксы угомонятся.
            1. Binder Offline
              Binder (Miron) 27 June 2020 08: 34
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              Americans will leave the former. Syria, as soon as they consider it necessary, but the Turks will never leave the areas populated by Turkoman - they will annex these areas to Turkey or organize a left-wing state such as the Republic of North Cyprus.
              The Kurds didn’t "take off" anything, these are their historical lands and they will no longer go under the rule of Damascus. The foreign policy of Russia in the 90s and today is completely disastrous, and the matter is not in Anglo-Saxons at all.
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 09: 08
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                The foreign policy of Russia in the 90s and today is completely disastrous, and the matter is not in Anglo-Saxons at all.

                - Yes, there simply is no more failure ... - Personally, I have already written about this more than once ...
              2. Mars Offline
                Mars (Mars) 4 July 2020 16: 19
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                The Americans may leave. Ours are holding back Assad, do not be naive, they will not be allowed to do anything to the Turks while they are there, but everything is changing. Dad Erdogan yelled - Assad is over, well, where is he now and where is Assad. Today, foreign policy meets our capabilities, if so smart - go and teach Lavrov, only the answer will be appropriate.
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                  Binder (Miron) 4 July 2020 18: 08
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                  Quote: Mars
                  Ours are holding back Assad, do not be naive, they will not let the Turks do anything

                  And if Assad is not restrained, then he will tear the Turk, like an ace warmer?laughing Yes, the Turks simply crush him in passing. It is naive to think that anything depends on the ophthalmologist, he is a complete zero, he keeps himself exclusively thanks to the Russians and the Persians, he cannot live a day without them.

                  Quote: Mars
                  go and teach Lavrov, only the answer will be appropriate, stupid people

                  Well, if you think smart Lavrov, then I'm glad to be a fool for you. good
            2. gorenina91 Offline
              gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 09: 05
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              As for the destruction of the Carapace, read the military’s opinion on how, in capable hands, the Carapace turns into a formidable weapon.

              - Well, so ...- who finally learns to "be able to use" these "Carapace" ???
              - You naively assume that the Syrians are so inept with all this Russian technology ... - Ha .. - Yes, they are not Syrians ... - These are all the same ...- our “doubles” and “triplets” are the operators and all the other service staff of this same equipment of ours ... - Somehow the troika finished their military schools and joined the troops ... - Yes, they should shoot and shoot (really) from these Shells at least for educational purposes; constantly carry out various combat training missions ... day and night without stopping ...- until at least ... somehow they can manage ... to do something .. - And there is no question of “Syrian specialists” should be ...
              1. Mars Offline
                Mars (Mars) 4 July 2020 16: 20
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                Sofa expert, learn the materiel, at least, and complete at least command courses.
          2. gorenina91 Offline
            gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 09: 25
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            And after the exemplary destruction of the "Shell" and other equipment by their drones, Russia will not quarrel with them - it will cost more to itself.

            - Yes, everything is clear with the Shells ...- the training of our specialists is very weak ... - But the worst thing is that our military pilots are most likely even worse trained than the Shell experts ... - This it’s good (or rather, very bad) that our pilots bomb just some targets supposedly in the sandy desert and constantly “destroy” dozens of bandit leaders and hundreds of ordinary barmales ... - But no one in real life sees results and actions ... - As if ... "If you do not believe ...- then go and check it yourself" ...- but who will "check" and "count" there ... - Well, .. if you have to conduct real air battles with well-trained enemy flyers ... -there it will not work like with our S-300 and S-400; who don’t shoot so as not to expose the myth of their super efficiency ... - Pilots will have to really fight in the air ... and perform combat missions ... - So it will turn out like ... like in 1941. .. - "who could have thought" ... - "we didn’t know" ... etc ...
            - And the Turkish flyers are pretty well prepared ... - Alas ...
            - My pluses ...- you can’t get anywhere from them ...- everything is pretty objective ...
            1. nov_tech.vrn Offline
              nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 27 June 2020 09: 37
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              Irina, read your post, laughed for a long time to tears, then just cried. I did not find any traces of your technical training as a designer. Your most interesting feature is to write something that you absolutely do not understand. Forgive me, I wanted about highly trained soldiers of the Turkish army, but something went wrong. About the Turkish army, I liked the term, well-dressed, this is it, you can’t quarrel.
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 09: 54
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                read your post, laughed for a long time to tears

                - Well, that means - we will laugh further ...
                - Probably, my second nose has personally grown ... - why not laugh ...
                - And if it only seems so to you ??? - Well, about the nose ...- okay ... - Maybe you will grow up to three ...- until you start to believe in reality ...
                - And what is wrong with the training of Turkish pilots ??? - About the general assessment of the Turkish army and about the "highly trained soldiers of the Turkish army", and about their equipment ...- personally, I did not write anything ...- these are your fabrications ...
                - Personally, I specifically wrote about Turkish military pilots (not even civilians) ...
                - Personally, I’m not right in something ??? - How many Turkish flyers have already landed our military aircraft ??? - They hit from long distances and for sure ... - And ours don’t even react to "radiation" and do not use any maneuvers ... - as they flew ... and they fly ..- until they are knocked down. - And military pilots fly "with experience and rank", and fly over the territory where the fighting is taking place ... - How to qualify all this ...
                -Yes, and please ...- you don’t give me "your marks" (personally, I really - so be it - somehow manage) ... - you give an assessment to the pilots .. - and Turkish, and ours ...
                - Since I personally - "do not understand anything" ... - then you and the cards in your hands ...
                - Your actions????---------
            2. olpin51 Offline
              olpin51 (Oleg Pinegin) 27 June 2020 10: 54
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              Уважаемая Ирина! В этой ситуации необходимо больше подумать, чем пострелять. То есть сперва голова, а потом уже все остальное, что шевелится.
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 11: 22
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                In this situation, you need to think more than shoot. That is, first the head, and then everything else that moves.

                - What are you ...- But personally, I’m here ... I’m just talking about the "opposite" ...
                - Do you think that when shooting the head should be left somewhere ???
                - Или не так ...отвечу за вас... -"Ирина, ну мы не можем же каждый раз начинать палить в белый свет как в копеечку... -ведь это нам "влетит в копеечку"... - Мы лучше лишний раз поиграем в виртуал"... - и там будем промахиваться и делать ошибки... - И нас за это не будут наказывать...- а только погрозят пальчиком... - И все не так страшно" ... - "И не всё пропало"...
                - Well, and when the “time comes” and it will be necessary to do everything “for real” ...- here we will not miss the mark ...
                - Yes, this "time" has already come "many times" ??? - And from this “arrival” ...- how many “Shell” (in this case, “Shell” - since we started talking about them) remained in a broken state from “foreign direct hits” ??? - And these blows are delivered ...- even with UAVs, even with fighters ... - And what happened to the "service staff" of these "Shells" ... - It is still believed that they were Syrians and that they were at that time "went to smoke"; but at the same time ... "unexpectedly" .... "and suddenly", etc. ... you yourself believe in it ...- Well, if you "really want" ... then you can to believe ...
                Well, I'm here ... "explaining" ... - you "really want to believe" ...
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                  olpin51 (Oleg Pinegin) 27 June 2020 11: 31
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                  Нам многое закулисное неизвестно. Судим-то по тому, что черпаем из СМИ. А они пишут так, как им скажут владельцы.
                  1. gorenina91 Offline
                    gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 11: 50
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                    We don’t know much behind the scenes. We judge by what we draw from the media. And they write as the owners tell them.

                    - Well, you yourself here ... here ... here they said something about the head ... - It turns out ...- this is such a universal thing that with the help of it (the head) you can also think ... ...
                    - Well, you can draw anything, anywhere, from anywhere ...- and then just think ...
                    - Если сбивают наших военных лётчиков, выполняющих боевую задачу... - сбивает чужой истребитель с расстояния 20 км ... И до попадания этой "чужой ракеты" в наш самолёт...- наш экипаж никак не реагирует на облучение чужого прицельного радара ... -их уже вовсю "припекает", а они никак не реагируют...- и никаких противоракетных манёвров не совершают... - Это что...
                    - И точно так же...с огромной дистанции (почти уже на излёте ракеты "воздух-воздух") всё те же ...турецкие асы сбивают и сирийских лётчиков...
                    - And in the same way ... - our "Shells" are standing with their mouths open, and rockets from Israeli fighters arrive and quietly destroy them ...
                    -Какие уж тут СМИ... -Это лично Я "во всём виновата" , что пишу тут ...всё это..
                    - So everything is simple and unpretentious ... - blame me for everything ...
                    - Well, ha hah ... and only ...
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                      olpin51 (Oleg Pinegin) 27 June 2020 11: 57
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                      Кроме думать, надо еще и анализировать. Значит, что-то нам неведомо. Пока. Это игра. Политическая игра. Не всех туда пускают все узнать. Нам доступно лишь выражать эмоции.
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                        gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 12: 05
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                        - Well, that means ... we will drink champagne ...
            3. Binder Offline
              Binder (Miron) 27 June 2020 15: 33
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              Quote: gorenina91
              if you have to conduct real aerial battles with well-trained enemy flyers ...

              It will be like during the war: the best German ace Erich Hartmann - 352 victories in air battles, the most productive Soviet pilot Ivan Kozhedub - 64. But the Germans still had a lot of pilots who had over 200 victories in their assets ...

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              Turkish flyers are pretty well prepared ...

              The Turks are not only pilots well trained, the entire officer corps of the Turkish army is very professional and excellently educated. In general, their army is quite modern and combat-ready.
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 15: 54
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                It will be like during the war: the best German ace Erich Hartmann - 352

                The Turks have not only pilots well trained, the entire officer corps of the Turkish army is very professional and excellently educated, in general their army is quite modern and combat-ready.

                - Yes, personally, I know about this ...
                - It’s just that many people think that it’s “very indecent to talk about it” ...
                - The concept of "patriotism" is distorted and simplified to a state of ugliness ...
                - Ну, тут только что-то меняется только тогда, когда эта уродливость начинает сталкивать с реальностью... - И последствия всего этого...как всегда - катастрофичны... - Ну, наверное, людишки очень любят трагедии и жить не могут без рукотворных катастроф... - вот и кликушествуют, и мазохистируют коллективно и публично... - И попробуй ...- отними у них это... - Хахах...
                - Okay ... my plus of this whole topic .. you ...
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                  Binder (Miron) 27 June 2020 21: 03
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                  Quote: gorenina91
                  The concept of "patriotism" is distorted and simplified to a state of ugliness ...

                  The concept of "patriotism" includes, among other things, the desire to protect the interests of the homeland and its people. In my opinion, the participation of Russians in the Syrian conflict in no way serves these purposes, true patriotism is to restore order at home and to take care of the welfare of citizens, and not to support the power of a bloody dictator who exterminates compatriots.
            4. Piramidon Offline
              Piramidon (Stepan) 27 June 2020 19: 13
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              Quote: gorenina91
              our pilots bomb just some targets supposedly in the sandy desert and constantly “destroy” as many as “dozens of bandit leaders and hundreds of ordinary barmales” ... - But no one in real life sees the results and actions ...

              Do you need the pilots to land after the bombing, collect the carcasses of the barmalei and provide them to satisfy your curiosity?
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 27 June 2020 20: 12
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                You need the pilots to land after the bombing, collect the carcasses of barmaley and provide you

                - You guessed it ... - just so ...- So that I personally would be presented with the carcasses of all the steppe killed jerboas ... - Personally, I will buy it all and will sew boa from them ... - your wives will be delighted ...
            5. Mars Offline
              Mars (Mars) 4 July 2020 16: 22
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              Turkish flyers have already been beaten.

              Unknown Aviation, represented by Su-24 and MiG-29 aircraft, brutally bombed a Turkish military convoy near Misurata, where supporters of the PNS Faiz Saraj dug in. According to media reports, more than three dozen Turks and pro-Turkish militants, who were transferred to them from Syria to help, were killed, and more than fifty pieces of equipment were destroyed. In addition, until recently, the LAA of Khalifa Haftar, defeated on the head, began to relocate to Sirt.

              Also me, expert, go to the General Staff .... sofa expert.
            6. Mars Offline
              Mars (Mars) 4 July 2020 16: 25
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              It should be noted that the Turks were deprived of air superiority due to Russian-made Buk-M2E air defense systems, which began to actively shoot down Erdogan UAVs.
          3. nov_tech.vrn Offline
            nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 28 June 2020 00: 08
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            Так называемые туркоманы, скорее не турки, а туркмены, их очень много в Афганистане, на юге России живут, чуть ли не со времен Екатерины, есть в Турции и Сирии. Пантюркисты заявляют, что все народы, чьи языки относятся к тюркской языковой группе, типа немного турки, ну, младшие братья.
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    Wanderer039 27 June 2020 18: 47
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    The situation is taking a serious turn.
    1) It seems that the victory in this conflict in Turkey does not shine.
    2) This will be the second after the Greek-Turkish war for Cyprus military conflict between the countries included in NATO. It will be interesting to see how all this will end for NATO and how the USA will react, which have more than enough problems recently, and for Russia there are only plus problems in the USA.