Will Israel risk testing its F-35s against Russian S-400s


Syria may become a testing ground for the American F-35 Lightning II against the Russian anti-aircraft system S-400, covering the Khmeimim air base. According to Israel, this will make it possible to verify the possibility of bypassing Russian S-400 complexes deployed at the Khmeimim airbase, including with coercion of Russia to open fire.


"Forcing a firing" is very serious, because legally it is fully consistent with the "bellie incident." Why, then, Tel Aviv can be ready to provoke a nuclear power to declare war?

In fact, several factors have developed. First, in Syria, Russia and the United States are waging an undeclared “hybrid” war between themselves, where “proxies” are widely used and new types of weapons are being tested. Secondly, the United States is experiencing a number of serious problems with its widely publicized fifth-generation fighter, which is essentially a “flying iPhone,” about which we told earlier. For its further promotion, some loud PR action is needed. Thirdly, in the territory of the SAR there is a convenient "sparring partner", Russia with its S-300 and S-400 air defense systems. Earlier, the Israelis have already tested the “Favorites” and, in their words, have recognized the system is not effective enough against the F-35 Lightning II.

But there was still the "Triumph", which covers Khmeimim, and it is not his task to intercept aircraft outside the aerodrome zone. However, the Kremlin itself, so to speak, framed itself, giving permission to use the air base for the transit of Iranian military cargoes, as previously reported in the media. As you know, Israel mercilessly bombes any military infrastructure of the Islamic Republic in Syria. Thus, there are some reasons to expect a “raid” by the IDF on Khmeimim.

It remains to understand what “compulsion to open fire” means. Can Israeli pilots launch a bombing raid on a warehouse where military supplies are stored for the needs of Iranian "proxies"? The question is controversial. Such an attack can be interpreted as an act of military aggression against Russia. Another thing is that the Kremlin is hardly ready to start a full-scale war against Israel in the Middle East, and quite adequate people are sitting in Tel Aviv to prevent such flagrant provocations.

It is more likely that we will talk about the "air raid" without shelling. It is important for Israel and the United States to uncover the real possibilities of the latest Russian air defense system, to check whether they see the fifth generation aircraft or they don’t see. It is possible that IDF pilots will make frankly provocative overflights at the air base, provoking Khmeimim to open fire. Will the S-400 shoot down the F-35 Lightning II?

It is not known exactly what instructions our calculations have, but, most likely, the Triumphs will confine themselves to “detecting” and taking fighters at gunpoint. Can also be applied "non-lethal" methods of pacification, namely, the mobile complex electronic warfare Krasukha-4. Let us hope that their invisible strike on the aircraft systems will be enough to discourage Israelis and Americans from conducting such dangerous "exercises."
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 19 June 2020 13: 49
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    Can Israeli pilots launch a bombing raid on a warehouse where military supplies are stored for the needs of Iranian "proxies"?

    - But what, the author expressly admits finding such cargoes at a Russian military base? In general, the article resembles a set of not quite real fantasies, to say the least.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 June 2020 13: 58
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    Survived. Media cited anonymous Jews in the S-400 rating.
    Who do these "consider in Israel" ??? Social anonymous coupons from social networks?

    In fact, it was reported that the F-35s had already bombed Syria.
    And to deliver an expensive belly for stupidity is no fools. Maximum - agree with Shoigu and throw several missiles or planning bombs.
    We, they say. you, you to us. And then come, pliz, go to the synagogue, note .......
  3. Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 19 June 2020 15: 18
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    A set of obscure assumptions with obscure conclusions. In addition, Jerusalem is again replaced by T-Aviv, which is also significant.
  4. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 19 June 2020 16: 26
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    - Actually ... actually ... actually ...
    - I’ll tell you personally I am an absurd seditious thing ...
    - But there’s simply no strength ...- to look at the fact that Russia is not taking advantage ... is not taking advantage of opportunities that can be taken advantage of for a long time ...:
    - Well, why not put the Turks (or even the Americans) under the fire of Israeli planes in Syria ????
    - Well, that our intelligence, having gorgeous satellite data; and along the way using electronic interference (electronic game) ...- cannot organize a “setup” ...- even a series of “multiple setups” ...- as a result of which the Israelis can take the positions of the Turks (or even Americans) for their “beloved Al Qaeda "... - and launch your missile strikes ...
    - Personally, I have repeatedly written about the weak work of our intelligence in Syria (yes, you see, experts in the field of electronic warfare, and "tracking" ...- most likely ...- "so-so") ...
    - It is unfortunate that Russia is capable of waging military operations in Syria only almost as "at the level" of WWII times ... It is somehow even insulting and alarming for Russia ...
  5. Binder Offline
    Binder (Miron) 19 June 2020 16: 38
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    Somewhat surprising is the credulity of the author of this text - for some reason he is completely convinced that the political and military leadership of the Russian Federation would provide the Persians with the opportunity to land transport aircraft at the Russian air base to transfer and store military cargo from Iran, with the further transfer of these goods to their proxies. I have a higher opinion about the level of thinking of Russian leaders. In fact, one should estimate - why would the Russians suddenly decide to substitute themselves so thoughtlessly? The Persians are never friends with them, but they have stable relations with the Israelis, and the reaction in the world to such help would be definitely negative, does the Kremlin need it?
    Well, as for identifying the real capabilities of the S-400, I hasten to assure the respected community that they have long been fully known by both the American and Israeli military, and there is currently no reason to conduct additional testing. hi
  6. kriten Offline
    kriten (Vladimir) 19 June 2020 16: 54
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    Israel has carte blanche against GDP for any bombing in Syria. What are they afraid of ???
  7. Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 19 June 2020 18: 01
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    Quote: gorenina91
    as a result, the Israelis can take the position of the Turks (or even the Americans) for their "beloved Al Qaeda" ... - and launch their missile attacks ...

    Al Qaeda is the Sunnis, and the Israelis bomb the Shiites, but you don’t know about this, apparently, the electronic game is in the way ...
  8. Warrior Offline
    Warrior 19 June 2020 19: 47
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    Israel will take a risk, which it has already done more than once, but the S-400 will again be “worn out” in Syria and will be blamed on the untrained Syrians ..
    1. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 20 June 2020 07: 30
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      Israel will take a risk, which it has already done more than once, but the S-400 will again be “worn out” in Syria and will be blamed on the untrained Syrians ..

      - Yes, of course it will risk ...
      - Israel has long developed an “algorithm” against the S-300 ...... - Greece helped the Israelis very actively ... - When the Israelis used massive attacks against the S-300 in joint exercises with Greece .., which Russia set the S-300 ...
      - Most likely, these "joint exercises" were then organized to obtain an "algorithm for solving problems" ... against the S-300 ... - Probably, Israel simply paid Greece then for this "nth amount" ...
      - Well, after that ...- it’s not difficult to get an “antidote” either against S-400 ...
      - My plus to you, Mr. Warrior ...
      1. Binder Offline
        Binder (Miron) 20 June 2020 17: 50
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        Quote: gorenina91
        these "joint exercises" were then organized to obtain an "algorithm for solving problems" ... against the S-300 ... - Probably, Israel simply paid Greece then for this "nth amount" ...

        Money is not happiness, honey. Many armies in the world themselves are willing to pay for the opportunity to conduct joint exercises with the Israelis to improve the qualifications of their personnel and gain invaluable experience in conducting military operations using the latest methods and techniques. funds. And the Greeks are no exception, especially since, unlike the majority of NATO members that no one is threatening at the moment, Greece has its permanent adversary - Turkey, for which the Greeks should always be ready as those young pioneers ...
    2. Piramidon Offline
      Piramidon (Stepan) 27 June 2020 09: 55
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      Quote: Warrior
      C-400 again in Syria, "get out"

      And when did they "get out"? Was there already an Israeli air raid on Khmeimim?

      blame everything on the untrained Syrians

      Not a single Syrian is in the control panels of the S-400.
  9. Cheburashk Offline
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 20 June 2020 17: 34
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    The day is clear that they will take a chance and, moreover, insolently. They will fly, see how and what, and for how much, they will draw conclusions for themselves and simply mean all the information.
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    aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 20 June 2020 19: 56
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    A couple of times to warn. The third time to warn completely. These conversations will lull vigilance, and the Israelis will try ..... having lost caution, but they need to shoot their invisible without fail, an old rocket. Which will put an end to the penguins' ambitions and ruin their iron sales market. Most of all, of course, will be happy in Ankara and Tel Aviv. Warsaw will freeze between two decisions - to buy - not to buy .... Those who buy scrap metal will nibble on themselves something that they can reach.
    1. Binder Offline
      Binder (Miron) 20 June 2020 20: 34
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      Quote: aleksandrmakedo
      But they need to shoot their invisible without fail, an old rocket. Which will put an end to the penguins' ambitions and ruin their iron sales market.

      And guess, good citizen, what will happen if your valiant air defense isn’t able to hit the F-35 with an old rocket or even with a brand new rocket? It, of course, the propagandists will quite truthfully tell that the "unparalleled" S-400 complexes hit a larger number of fifth-generation fighters than there are in Israel, but only who would believe it? Sadness, however ... lol
      1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
        aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 20 June 2020 23: 28
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        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        Quote: aleksandrmakedo
        But they need to shoot their invisible without fail, an old rocket. Which will put an end to the penguins' ambitions and ruin their iron sales market.

        And guess, good citizen, what will happen if your valiant air defense isn’t able to hit the F-35 with an old rocket or even with a brand new rocket? It, of course, the propagandists will quite truthfully tell that the "unparalleled" S-400 complexes hit a larger number of fifth-generation fighters than there are in Israel, but only who would believe it? Sadness, however ... lol

        And what will we lose if the S-200 or S-75 misses? This is exactly what I had in mind when speaking of the OLD. It is clear, with the definition of the goal, accompaniment and other nannies, you can help with more perfect eyes.
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          Binder (Miron) 21 June 2020 18: 28
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          Quote: aleksandrmakedo
          And what will we lose if the S-200 or S-75 misses?

          At a minimum, you will lose those systems that will be attacked by Israeli air force planes, and more likely all of your air defense systems in Syria, and without any connection with the effectiveness of the attack. bully
          1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
            aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 18: 30
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            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            Quote: aleksandrmakedo
            And what will we lose if the S-200 or S-75 misses?

            At a minimum, you will lose those systems that will be attacked by Israeli air force planes, and more likely all of your air defense systems in Syria, and without any connection with the effectiveness of the attack. bully

            If the Israelites had the resources, the courage, and had such a task, they would have done it a long time ago. But now other people's airplanes at the Russian base landed and will land. Exactly as long as we consider it appropriate. Who will interfere with this? Can you tell me why Putin doesn’t go to Israel 5 times a year, but Netanyahu to Moscow? Who needs - he goes.
            1. Binder Offline
              Binder (Miron) 21 June 2020 18: 59
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              Quote: aleksandrmakedo
              If the Israelites had the resources, the courage, and had such a task, they would have done it a long time ago. But other people's airplanes at the Russian base landed and will land.

              A naive Chukchi young man, smashing the base of Khmeimim into dust for the Israelis is a matter of several minutes. The fact is that while this task is not worth it, Iranian transport planes do not land there because the Russian leadership understands the possible consequences of this and is not interested in a confrontation with the region’s most powerful military force. As for the courage of the Israelis, it is known to the whole world - the Israelis were not afraid to shoot down British fighters in 1948, destroy the American reconnaissance ship Liberty in 1967, defeat Soviet pilots on MiGs in the summer of 1970 over Egypt, greatly thin out Soviet air defense calculations during the First Lebanese 1982, and do you think that today anyone in Israel is afraid of the Russian Federation? laughing
              1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
                aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 19: 01
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                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                Quote: aleksandrmakedo
                If the Israelites had the resources, the courage, and had such a task, they would have done it a long time ago. But other people's airplanes at the Russian base landed and will land.

                A naive Chukchi young man, smashing the base of Khmeimim into dust for the Israelis is a matter of several minutes. The fact is that while this task is not worth it, Iranian transport planes do not land there, because the Russian leadership understands the possible consequences of this and is not interested in a confrontation with the region’s most powerful military force. As for the courage of the Israelis, it is known to the whole world - the Israelis were not afraid to shoot down British fighters in 1948, destroy the American reconnaissance ship Liberty in 1967, defeat Soviet pilots on MiGs in the summer of 1970 over Egypt, greatly thin out Soviet air defense calculations during the First Lebanese 1982, and do you think that today anyone in Israel is afraid of the Russian Federation? laughing

                To destroy the base is to declare war on a nuclear power, exceeding the resources of this unfinished thousand times. It’s a shame to argue with you.
                1. Binder Offline
                  Binder (Miron) 21 June 2020 19: 20
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                  Quote: aleksandrmakedo
                  To destroy the base is to declare war on a nuclear power, exceeding the resources of this unfinished thousand times. It’s a shame to argue with you.

                  Your nuclear power pays indefinite tribute to a handful of Chechen shepherds, and you still say ...
                  1. gorenina91 Offline
                    gorenina91 (Irina) 22 June 2020 05: 13
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                    Your nuclear power pays indefinite tribute to a handful of Chechen shepherds, and you still say ...

                    - My plus ...
                    - Yes, and not only they pay tribute; but Turkey has already agreed to pay ... - we already pay for the entire Erdogan mono performance, where the endless absurd improvisation of the only and main "performer" is performed ... - well, we’ve got used to it already ...- we just pay and ... and sometimes even applaud ...
                    - Yes, and that’s not all, to whom Russia widely and generously “patronizes” ... - I just don’t want to climb into the wilds ...
                    - But ... but ... but Israel, too ... is quite quiet today ... - and it’s also afraid of a lot of things ... - I won’t get into the wilds either ...
                    - So Israel will not succeed anymore ... as there is in the Odessa song

                    ... and all the bandits got up when he entered the pub ...

                    - So today, Israel has to very carefully enter the "pub" in the Middle. East ... - And do not drink there "an extra mug of beer" ...
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                      Binder (Miron) 22 June 2020 17: 55
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                      Quote: gorenina91
                      but Israel, too ... today is quite quiet ... - and it’s also afraid of a lot of things ...

                      And what is Israel afraid of today, in what is this fear expressed? I think that the situation is exactly the opposite - never before since independence in 1948. the Israelis did not feel as strong and confident as they are today, time works for Israel. good
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                  Piramidon (Stepan) 27 June 2020 10: 05
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                  Quote: aleksandrmakedo
                  To destroy the base is to declare war on a nuclear power, exceeding the resources of this unfinished thousand times. It’s a shame to argue with you.

                  With the IDF veteran hero, arguing is not only shameful, but also dangerous. He in 6 seconds, the whole of Russia, without taking his ass off the couch, smash. laughing
              2. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 22 June 2020 04: 53
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                defeat Soviet pilots on MiGs in the summer of 1970 over Egypt, greatly thin out Soviet air defense calculations during the First Lebanese 1982,

                - Alas ...- but it is so ... - Lap-and-threesomes only in children’s TV series (like "Yeralash") look cute and funny ... - But how dangerous they are in the army, medicine, and the construction of important facilities .. - Yes, wherever you need good preparation, cool knowledge and ability to create and create ...
                - But in Russia, unfortunately ...- as they sat down on the hackneyed topic of heroism ...- they still can’t "get off" ... - Everyone hopes for "paratroopers on the armor", the effect of crappy pseudo patriotic films ... like ... - "Ninth Company"; "Stormy gates" and other simple little rubbish ...; where with dashing and cheap pseudo-heroic effects they hide the complete failure of the command and the very principle of conducting military operations ... - For this it is necessary to demoralize and condemn ... - and they try to sing it ... as courage ... - And the result of all this is not so “the dashing Wagnerites” (PMC Wagner) have long demonstrated, which they simply destroyed (without any loss from their adversary) ... - Here’s “all the daring” ...- It just becomes scary when you see .. what is going on. ..
                - That's the way we glorify ... still such courage ... - the result is known ...
                1. Binder Offline
                  Binder (Miron) 22 June 2020 17: 59
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                  One of the pluses is mine, because in all the armies of civilized states there is a principle - a living soldier is preferable to a dead hero. And there is also the saying of one great commander:

                  The soldier’s feat is the result of a general mistake.
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                  Michael1950 (Michael) 27 June 2020 15: 37
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                  Since 1937, it was not necessary to spread rot and spread rot of the Jews, restrict their rights, prohibit appointing them to leading posts, and push them out of the country with all their might. Look at the USA: there a Jew can be both the Minister of Defense, and head the CIA, and occupy any higher posts in the state apparatus. Look at their institutes and laboratories involved in military development: there "a Jew sits on a Jew and drives a Jew"! There are as many Jewish officers and officers in the US army as there are ~ 2% of Jews in the total population (soldiers, however, are almost 10 times less in percentage terms, lol ) they occupy any position, up to the highest generals and no one thinks there to spread rot on the "5th point" - they are appointed to any position according to their abilities. You, glorious Rusichs, have got rid of the most advanced, proactive and talented part of the people of the country - and now lament that "things are going sucks" ?! You gave two million of your Jews to the United States and Israel - now you are crying that things are going well there, but for some reason it’s bad for you ...