President Trump to ruin US to eliminate Fed

On the eve of the Russians celebrated a very controversial "holiday" dedicated to "gaining sovereignty", which became a prologue to the subsequent collapse of the USSR. In this context, it is interesting to look at the events taking place in the USA, which in the Western press consider the beginning of the collapse of the “hegemon”. What is this, “wet dreams” of envious people, or is there such a rational justification for such forecasts?

The fact that the United States is waiting for the fate of the Soviet Union was not written by Russian propaganda, but by the quite respected French publication Le Figaro. His journalists pointed to the following premises of a possible geopolitical catastrophe of the 21st century: the COVID-19 pandemic, a large-scale economic recession and mass riots and pogroms, provoked by the brutal murder of black George Floyd by an American police officer.

These are objectively very serious problems, but let's face it, the United States will be able to deal with them: they will throw them with printed dollars, the army will disperse the rioters if necessary. Does this mean that the US territorial integrity is not in danger? In fact, the United States may indeed cease to exist, at least temporarily. Let's try to explain the course of our thoughts.

At first, keep in mind that the United States is a federal state, consisting of very different states. Recall that the word State is translated not only as a state, but also as a state, literally, it is “United States of America”. Some states, moreover, the richest and most successful, do not give up hope of gaining independence, at least at the level of political declarations. This is what many Californians dream of, oil Texas generally has the right under its constitution to hold a referendum on this issue.

It is clear that, by and large, these are all political games of local elites. Gaining real independence from Washington will immediately create a lot of serious problems for the former states: they will have to introduce their own currency, create armed forces, and accordingly, increase taxes on the population. Will California and Texas really want to gain "independence" at this cost? Question.

If we talk about this topic, then to satisfy the freedom-loving ambitions of Californians and Texans, the United States could be reformatted from a federation to a confederation, where their States would receive the maximum degree of freedom, but the burden of ensuring security and upholding the economic and political interests of American corporations abroad would lie at a single center . It is ironic that he, the center, would probably not even be against such a reform.

SecondlyToday, a unique situation has developed. The United States is plunging into an abyss of strife, and this is not about the confrontation between blacks and whites. Between themselves, the “Imperials”, to whom Donald Trump belongs, and the “globalists”, represented by the candidate Joe Biden, grabbed to death. President Trump purposefully smashes all the structures of the “globalists”: the Trans-Pacific and Transatlantic Partnership, the WTO, WHO, through the US exit from it, now imposes sanctions against the International Criminal Court. It is already clear to everyone that the next in line are financial institutions: the IMF and the US Federal Reserve, a private money machine that prints dollars for the whole world.

And how can the Federal Reserve System be eliminated? No matter how wild it sounds now, this can be done through the "re-establishment" of the USA itself and the restart of the national currency. The start of the civil war and the “sovereignty parade” of some states can be played back with the strong hand of Trump through the signing of a new federal / confederate agreement and the introduction of a new currency instead of the dollar. Yes, the United States will thus lose part of its financial influence around the world, but this completely fits into the concept of returning sovereignty to it and withdrawing from the tutelage of global financial structures, and the Fed will then be left behind.
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  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 14: 35
    It has been said many times that Trump is a bankruptcy specialist. This is what he can do perfectly. The problem is different. The exit (economic) for the States implies a limitation of their role in the global political field. This is also unacceptable. Who will fulfill the extraterritorial sanctions of the States if they go into self-isolation? The states need to resolve their economic problems as quickly as possible and at the same time maintain control of the world. Without one, there is no other.
    The best option is a big war outside of America. Something like World War II. But in modern realities, neither China nor Russia (nuclear powers) will do this. Need a war on the periphery. This is Syria, Libya, Egypt. But not India-China. Also fraught sideways.
    So we are waiting for some kind of crazy provocation.
    1. Warrior Offline Warrior
      Warrior 13 June 2020 18: 10
      USA WILL CRUNCH or explode Yellowstone .... by any means USA END ....
      And you can wait what you want ... USA is a country of loafers. USA - PARASIT and INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST. USA - INTERNATIONAL EVIL, which must be DESTROYED.
  2. boriz Online boriz
    boriz (boriz) 13 June 2020 16: 53
    The time for reformatting the USA is completely unsuccessful. The fall in financial influence is already taking place. The devaluation of the dollar has begun, which no one would have noticed.

    In addition, the financial international (its American part) will not allow a quiet transfer of the Fed, because it involves a full audit. And then you will have to explain a lot, for example, where did the gold go, both ours and others, entrusted to storage.
    They do not even need legitimate power now. Because they do not and cannot have a positive agenda. After the transfer of power to Biden, questions will quickly begin why it is getting worse.
    Now they need chaos inside the country (outside they did not succeed, although they tried for a long time), which allows them to avoid audit and responsibility.
    The collapse of the country does not.
    There is another option (in my opinion). It allows you to solve all issues (though not in favor of the financial intern). And, it seems to me, this option was launched around the New Year or a little earlier.
    The presentation of the version exceeds the comment format, so anyone interested:
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 21: 30
      Read. There is a weak link. It seems to me that the UK does not have full sovereignty. And to create an emission center in the City is not a good idea. Moreover, here we must take into account the position of such a heavyweight as China. Having an emission center in the country is a huge plus. Which the States have demonstrated for several decades. Will China agree to give the issue to London?
      1. boriz Online boriz
        boriz (boriz) 13 June 2020 23: 38
        That is precisely the point. WB is too weak, I wrote about it. And the emission center will not be controlled by the WB. Key posts will be outsiders. Like the European Commissioners. And IMF 2.0 may be in another country. But no one will let the Fed 2.0 be in one of the partner countries heading the new currency zones. Therefore, either the WB or Switzerland.
        For WB, the bonus is that they will throw some goodies and ensure safety. Her role as a financial center will continue. And nobody will allow its gain.
        But these are the details. The main idea is to create an alternative route for money. Both the current Fed and the financial intern are blown away, it will be possible to take for the gills. And the IMF will already be on the side of the new commanders. After the Strauss-Kahn affair, they will be very happy.
        And, as soon as the money river is empty, everyone will rush from them, as from lepers.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 23: 59
          I disagree. The emission center must have a gold reserve. Giving gold to a loyal vassal of Washington is a disaster. As the saying goes, "this is worse than a crime. This is a mistake."
          To create a new center, a new currency and new cash flows is the task of more than one day or even more than one year.
          The transfer of gold to the UK, it seems to me, is connected with the idiocy of the Russian oligarchs. Or with their betrayal. For some reason, they think it's time to tear the claws. But they will be undressed there.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 14 June 2020 14: 04
            The transfer of gold to the UK, it seems to me, is connected with the idiocy of the Russian oligarchs. Or with their betrayal.

            Regardless of the idiocy and betrayal of the oligarchs, I want to clarify:
            You mean the transfer, or is it still selling gold? These are two different things.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 June 2020 17: 06
    And, articles about the imminent collapse of the United States have been written for 30 years ....
    These are all very famous complexes.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 21: 35
      States are likely not to fall apart. We are talking about the loss of influence on global processes. This cannot be allowed by the financial elite of the United States. But the manufacturers understand that without customs duties and self-isolation, the country cannot be raised. Hence, convulsive movements - a step forward, two steps back.
      It is difficult to judge who will drag the blanket over himself. This is the case with Ukraine. The manufacturers union was against joining the EU, financiers and oligarchs wanted to join the EU. The association was signed and the industry of Ukraine died. But did this interest financiers? They make excellent money even without industry in banking operations. Consumers are in the red. But in Ukraine, the Nazis go with weapons and protests like the American are impossible in principle, and in the States the police surrendered. Riots and riots are likely to be crushed soon.
      Of interest is who will win the fight - industrialists or financiers.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 June 2020 23: 09
        Well, so the article is not about that.
        And industrial financiers .... like a two-faced Janus, the same thing.
        At us who owns banks, that owns the industry. And vice versa. Only, unlike at the hearing of Chubais and Abramovich, everything is quiet, pops up infrequently ....

        They have the same thing, read, except for very young businesses. Apple, Arizona, etc.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 23: 11
          The fact of the matter is that industrial financiers are two big differences. And without this axiom, what is happening cannot be understood. They have diametrically opposite tasks. The current crisis will not lie. Tons of articles have already been written, why trillions of Fed don't start the economy.
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 13 June 2020 23: 15
            I will not argue. The topic is weak. Sometimes it pops up in articles that financiers have large shares in production, and manufacturers in banks. Too many.
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 23: 20
              Shares can have. But playing on the stock exchange, production is not necessary. The Fed is printing trillions, and instead of producing, they go to financial sites and inflate bubbles. And production chokes without money.
              Across Russia. The budget rule cuts off anything above $ 42 per barrel. Therefore, ordinary people do not care at all whether oil costs $ 42 or $ 420. Scissors will cut off everything that is above 42, transferred to the NWF or gold reserves, and, as now, will be taken to London. And inside the country "there is no money, but you hold on."
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 June 2020 18: 56
                Tse is true.
                But they are not fools, as I know, they don’t put all the loot on the exchange.
              2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 June 2020 19: 30
                But again, the article is about "the collapse of the United States."
                Maybe it's easier for aliens to wait?
  4. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 13 June 2020 21: 33
    It is interesting, if the American presidents were slaveholders and they were demolished, why not demolish dollars with their image?
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 13 June 2020 22: 57
      A very dangerous proposition. When the banknotes with the images of the presidents begin to be demolished, the "kirdyk" will come. And not America, but all of us.
  5. Smirnoff Offline Smirnoff
    Smirnoff (Victor) 13 June 2020 23: 54
    Surname Trump in direct proportion to the meaning of the word TRAMPlin!

    Movement using TRAM plin can go in different directions, including, and SHARP down!
    All the actions of TRAMPlin as the president of the United States indicate that he is acting as a driver of all kinds of crisis phenomena in the USA. Therefore, nothing good should be expected for the United States.

    Every month in the USA it will be worse and worse!
    Based on TRUMPLin, the USA is slowly but surely sliding into the abyss.
    The American democratic “bolivar” will not withstand the total crisis in the United States and will collapse into a precipice. TRAMPLin will greatly help them in this. There they and the road !!!

    "This is what will happen in the United States," predicts expert Ostan Goolsby:

    - companies will lay off workers, - then they will declare bankruptcy,
    - there will be problems with the banks that credited these companies,
    - the entire financial system will begin to collapse, and we will get a combination of the recession of 1929-1932 with the global crisis of 2008.
    The normal business cycle will be disrupted, that is, self-correcting (financial) mechanisms can no longer work.
    And even when the epidemic is over, the US economy will not return to the pre-crisis situation.
    “She will be so far from the state that was before the pandemic that she will not recover.”

    This is the pessimistic scenario for the United States.

    TRUMPLIN proclaimed his presidential slogan - "Make the United States great again."
    And judging by his cases and the cases of American bigwigs from criminal politics and criminal business, we get the slogan exactly the opposite.
    TRUMPlin and American crime bosses will do everything possible to ensure that the United States collapses into the GAP of crisis and devastation.
    Gorbachev came to help ruin the USSR, and Trump came to overwhelm and ruin the STATES !!!
    What we are now in the USA and are observing.
    There they cherish!
    The fact that the "doctor" TRAMPlin prescribed.
    The overthrow of Trump will not lead to anything good for the United States.
  6. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 14 June 2020 01: 50
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, send Trump to the aid of Chubais, Gref, Kudrin and the other Nabiullins. Kiriyenko do not forget, he is special in such matters.
  7. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 14 June 2020 07: 59
    To eliminate the Fed, President Trump needs to ruin the United States.

    One question remains - why eliminate the Fed?
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 12: 35
      Because the "machine" has broken down. You don't keep a spoiled vacuum cleaner at home ...

      The funny thing is that you do not even need to invent anything. Has anyone heard of US Gold Certificates? They are now withdrawn from circulation, but who said that they cannot be put into circulation again? And these will not be modern Fed dollars (unsecured by anything), but US government gold certificates secured by gold.Золотой_сертификат_(США)
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 14 June 2020 14: 34
        Well, money backed by gold cannot exist! A system based on lending, deferred demand, pension (savings funds), even theoretically excludes gold. These are soft-boiled boots! It's time to understand this. Money can be provided with the volume of goods and services, and what is equally important - trust.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 15: 44
          Money secured by gold may well exist. In parallel with money secured by goods.
          For 50 years now, the States have been demonstrating the existence of money that is not backed by anything other than trust and military force. What happens if the States lose confidence and military strength? Do not think that this is impossible. The withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, Europe, and even God knows where it comes from, shows that this can happen. The decrease in the number of aircraft carrier groups also speaks of this. So, what happens if the States lose their trust and the projection of power across the globe? According to you, the dollar will lose its appeal. Trump must understand this. The US financial elite also understands this. Hence their sharp confrontation with Trump.

          We have ceased to regard Marx as an economist. They study it in the West. Capitalism can only develop in the context of expanding markets. By increasing demand. Then the supply will also increase. Therefore, I have always said that Obama did not do well in school. The imposition of sanctions is the shrinking of markets. Obama was supposed to fill the Russian Federation with cheap American consumer goods and "Bush's legs." He shot not in the leg, but in his head. If he did it, now he would pitch the rope from Putin. But the United States went to narrow its market. And then China announced inclusive development. For capitalism, this is "check and mate".

          The states need to reset their economies. But 300 years or more (since the time of Henry VIII) it is known that this is achieved by protective duties, protectionism and the closure of borders. This is the backbone of the economy. As E. Reinert wrote, this is a "new canon". All the recommendations of the IMF, WTO and other financial structures do not work in the current reality. If Trump wants to make "America great," then he simply must destroy financial structures. Nobody is interested in whether he will live to see the elections. The stakes are too high. For America to become great, it must lock itself in the Western Hemisphere, introduce the Monroe Doctrine in the 21st century, and then begin expansion at a new stage.
          In terms of currency, this means introducing a new dollar (sometimes called an amero) and robbing the entire gold reserve that he can reach.
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 15: 53
            So the existence of money secured by gold does not contradict the existence of money secured by goods. It was in the USSR until 1988. This is different money. There is a struggle of financiers against industrialists. Industrialists want to close and regroup, for the subsequent capture of the global market. Financiers want to leave everything as is. Both that and another way are extremely risky.
            For the whole world, the collapse of the US financial system is a huge disaster. This is a complete impoverishment of the entire population, This is the war and riots of all against all. Only those states that retain their structure can survive. That is, with such a development of events, crying about lost personal freedoms will not be necessary. To stay alive. For Russia (China, India), I see only a sharp restriction on foreign trade transactions, the abolition of the convertibility of their currencies, self-isolation (at the state level), total control over any activity (yes, yes, the same totalitarianism). And most importantly (!!!) a nationally oriented government, not a liberal party. Otherwise it will be like in the picture

            I hope Putin understands this
            1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
              Alexzn (Alexander) 14 June 2020 19: 00
              In parallel, perpendicular ... What are you talking about? Gold is still recognized (Basel 3) as a monetary asset. What is the problem? The market recognizes securities secured (guaranteed) by gold. What is the bazaar about? You just need to understand that the economy does not need this, and when such a need arises (ooooo serious crisis), the market is ready to use the services of gold. You also need to understand that the formula - the dollar is not backed up by anything - is stupid initially.
              Yes, the prevailing world fin. the system is doubtful, yes, it allows the Americans to parasitize on it, yes, sooner or later it will need to be changed. It’s just not clear - what about gold?
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 20: 14
                We seem to be speaking just parallel and perpendicular. Any currency must be provided with something. Shells and beads are also a currency.
                But it so happened that banknotes must be guaranteed to be exchanged for equivalent goods. 26 trillion of debt (the word debt is very important) are unsecured. They are not provided, first of all, with the quantity of goods in the USA and the quantity of gold in Fort Knox. So we must admit that the dollar is not backed up by anything. In addition to military force and the unwritten agreement of the countries of the world that this is a world currency.
                Under these conditions, the role of precisely gold is growing. People and countries need a reference (as a reference meter). Historically, it is gold. It can be uranium, platinum, beads or shells. But historically, it is gold. In Ancient Sparta, it was iron (and after treatment with vinegar, so that it could not be used).
                What happens if the Fed lowers the rate in the negative zone? This means that holders of treasuries will have to pay the costs of the American economy instead of income. First of all, this concerns just the US pension funds. It is the instability in the United States and the unpredictability of the Fed that deprives the dollar of confidence.
                What then to take as a standard of exchange? Unit of labor? It is different in different countries. The number of warheads? Not serious. The world will turn to gold. Though temporarily, they will turn away from the dollar and America will lose the status of the Superpower. I told you, Trump likes to bring things to bankruptcy. That’s why they set it up.
                1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                  Alexzn (Alexander) 14 June 2020 21: 02
                  Well, you don’t have basic knowledge in macroeconomics, so maybe you don’t need to talk about finances? Maybe for the hadron collider? You have no idea about the nature of this debt, you do not understand how and how dollars are provided. Why draw global conclusions after reading populist statues.
                  PS After allegations of the need for gold security and the fact that the dollar is not backed up by anything, it is better to switch to the type of shells that can be replaced.
                  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 21: 03
                    I'm not against. Do not want to discuss - do not.
                    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                      Alexzn (Alexander) 14 June 2020 21: 53
                      I do not mean that. There are questions - ask, but do not draw conclusions based on popular sources, where, for various reasons, idiotic assessments of the situation are published. Journalists and populists make money, and you are being fooled.
                      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2020 22: 35
                        I do not have any questions. And I do not draw conclusions on articles, but on economic books. There are simply two points of view on the role of gold. At least two. And with us they are different.
                        I roughly understand your argument. I just do not agree with her.
                      2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 07: 20
                        Name at least one significant economist who talks about gold.
                      3. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 07: 53
                        The role of gold in gold and foreign currency reserves has fallen so much that the countries that historically have gold reserves have a gold reserve, including and in world powers. New economies do not bother with gold, and the rich northern countries do not increase it for decades, and the proportion of gold in gold reserves falls. We will not go far - Israel, a country where gold reserves per person is 4-5 times greater than the Russian one, where the share of gold is practically equal to ZERO. Does it bother you that the Jews do not keep their reserves in gold?
                        All games with the export of stored gold from the states to Europe have nothing to do with the economy, this is politics. The richest countries (except bank countries) generally have small gold reserves due to the lack of meaning.
                        The almost mystical attitude of Russians towards gold has always been surprising, in fact, this is the same resource as any other. Upon arrival in Israel, the most surprising thing was the presence of 50-100 grams of gold in any Israeli cleaner. For 30 years, even the cleaners stopped hanging gold on themselves, the world is changing.
                      4. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2020 09: 47
                        Israel is not an indicator.
                        All major economies of the world and large central banks are buying gold. Google the Internet and you will see that interest in gold is growing. At the moment, a troy ounce of 1724 dollars. A couple of years ago it was 1400.


                      5. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 11: 25
                        Everything is more complicated and not quite as you see it.
                        Yes, gold has risen in price, but (!)
                        1. To a large extent, gold has risen in price due to the policy of cheapening the dollar.
                        2. In addition to gold, some other resources and no less have risen in price.
                        3. The volatility of gold has not gone away and there is no guarantee that tomorrow it will not fall in price.
                        4. Gold is dead weight and requires maintenance costs. Assets with a comparable amount in foreign currency invested in the economy give better results than investments in gold, counting on its price increase.
                        And yet, who told you that most countries began to buy gold? Gold turnover did not increase and there is no special demand for it, and the price grew in the form of quotations. Sometimes it is bought by private banks, the purchase of the Central Bank of different countries does not grow. Gold is bought up (not in a rush) by countries that need to somehow save income from the positive balance of foreign trade (China, the Russian Federation) without increasing inflation.
                        So much in economics is not what you see.
                      6. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 11: 38
                        Following up. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation stopped (!) Buying gold even in the domestic market back in April, since 2019 Russia has sold more gold than it bought. In the period 2015-2019, Russia bought about half of the physical gold on the market, the rest is countries such as Turkey (crisis), Kazakhstan (preservation of oil revenues) and a little China (income from trade). The volume of gold movement can be considered insignificant, other world economies did not buy gold.
                      7. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2020 12: 10
                        Why did Russia sell gold? I wrote here that the oligarchs decided to tear their claws. But he decided to google on more serious sources. So, recently ALL countries (including the USA) exported tons of gold to the UK. If you understand so well, name the reason.
                        All central banks are currently buying gold. Suspended only in the last 2-3 months. But the trend remained.
                        You are right only in the sense that all the gold of the world will not be able to cover the entire sphere of goods and services. But this is not required. All countries of the world in their development passed through the gold standard. It was Spain, and Holland, and England, and Russia, and the same States. This is a temporary measure to consolidate production. The Spanish ministers who sold gold were eventually executed. But it was too late. Of the most powerful country in Europe, 16-17 centuries, Spain is now the weakest.
                        For the period of the fall of the dollar, gold will be an insurance policy. A fall in the dollar is forecasted. Whether it will be or not is unknown. But everyone wants to make secure.
                        At the moment (the last year or two) only the States did not buy gold. But this is understandable. They have a dollar. Why do they need gold?
                        Yes, not everything is clear, and not everything is so. How do you see. You requested links to authorities. I gave links to investment funds. It seems that they are also not sure about the dollar there.
                      8. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 12: 37
                        Private Bank sold gold and this is nothing more than a good deal - cheap buying and selling at the peak of the price. What is the connection with the intention of some oligarchs to escape somewhere?
                        Traditional false message and false conclusion.
                        Why confuse gold as a crisis insurance resource with gold as money? These are two different forms.
                        AND ONCE AGAIN (!) - well, ALL central banks do not buy gold. There are standard regular trading deals for insignificant volumes.
                      9. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2020 12: 50
                        I wrote that ALL countries exported part of the gold to the UK. I did not focus on the Bank of Russia.
                        I see no reason to continue. We have diametrically opposite information. Banks cut purchases in February March. But at the same time, private investors increased their purchases. The balance has remained. According to WGC (world gold coincul), despite the decline in purchases in the first quarter of 2020, total demand remained at the average monthly level. And even increased by 1%. Everything is said here:


                        I hope this is not a populist journalistic article for you.
                      10. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2020 12: 53
                        Yes, pay attention to ETFs. The influx of gold grew 7 times. 700% !!!!
                        What kind of animal is it that is actively invested in gold?
  • Winnie Offline Winnie
    Winnie (Winnie) 15 June 2020 06: 27
    And how can the Federal Reserve System be eliminated?

    The last American president to do this was D. Kennedy. lol
  • Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
    Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 15 June 2020 06: 43
    I remember how, at the second election of Obama and the circus with the “separation of Texas” and other states, Russian analysts were very excited, they assured that everything was right there, the collapse of the United States was coming, and they were seriously discussing what the states that would be formed in the United States would be called :))) In general, the same as with the collapse of the dollar.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 07: 26
    Quote: Winnie
    And how can the Federal Reserve System be eliminated?

    The last American president to do this was D. Kennedy. lol

    Another myth! Kennedy never tried to liquidate the Fed, he only returned the right to issue a silver certificate - the dollar to the Ministry of Finance.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 11: 47
    Quote: Bakht
    All major economies of the world and large central banks are buying gold.

    Give G-20 leading economies statistics on gold purchases! Central Banks of the world's major economies do not buy gold! There are exceptions for gold-mining countries (it is profitable for them because of the difference in the price of production and sale). Well, the world central banks do not conduct an active policy of buying gold and fluctuations in the volume of gold of 5-10 tons are not economically significant.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 15 June 2020 12: 51
    Quote: Bakht
    So, recently ALL countries (including the USA) exported tons of gold to the UK. If you understand so well, name the reason.

    Understand the difference between - all countries, all central banks and just banks - the owners of gold. You bring it all together. London is the center of gold trading, incl. physical. You did not even notice a contradiction in your logic - everyone buys gold and everyone carries gold to the trading floor (for sale!). Decide.
    The Central Banks of countries have not conducted active gold trade in recent years, except for some of the countries mentioned. Some activation on the London stock exchange is the result of exchange (speculative) operations of PRIVATE players. Now the price at which a collapse can occur if players start selling at 1700, what they bought at 1400 in order to earn their 20% profit, or players will start to buy gold available on the free market in order to further raise prices. All this is possible, but has no connection with the real economy - these are stock games and they are connected with quotes and options, and not with the real price of gold reserves.