Crimea becomes exorbitant burden for Putin, confident in the USA


Putin’s decision to “capture” Crimea in 2014 at first aroused unprecedented enthusiasm in Russian society. This event seemed to be the culmination of his reign. However, over time, passions subsided, and the peninsula began to turn into a real burden for the Russian budget. This writes the American publication Atlantic Council.


The price of integration of Crimea into the Russian Federation continues to grow, and this is all the more clearly felt in the era of the coronavirus pandemic and the decline in world oil prices. The Russian authorities have already invested astronomical money in the development of the infrastructure of the peninsula. The biggest article of these expenses was the construction of the Crimean bridge - it cost the treasury of the country about $ 4 billion.

For five years, from 2014 to 2019, Moscow invested about $ 20 billion in this territory. And in some sectors economics growth began. But the tourism sector suffered the most - the main driver of the development of the peninsula. The number of tourists from Ukraine has fallen sharply; almost none come from far abroad countries. Even tourists from the Russian Federation cannot compensate for the fall of this sector of the economy, since Russia is undergoing a recession, and Egypt and Turkey are ready for a serious struggle for the preferences of visitors.

Now one of the biggest problems in Crimea is becoming a shortage of drinking water. Some believe that the Kremlin may try to break the water blockade by force to gain access to the waters of the Dnieper - without desalination stations, it is difficult to assume that there are other methods to solve the water problem.

Atlantic Council experts believe that the peninsula is becoming an exorbitant burden for Putin. This is compounded by the fact that the Russian economy began to lose ground even before COVID-19 and the fall in oil prices. The resources of the state are melting, and many residents of the country are told that they will have to survive without help from above. For these reasons, domestic dissatisfaction with financial injections into the Crimea may be even more aggravated. And if the situation does not improve significantly, the Crimean Peninsula, instead of the subject of national pride of Russians, may turn into a burden for them.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 10 June 2020 18: 47
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    It is ridiculous to hear from a country in which they discussed the sale of Montana to Canada, or the state of Alaska of the Russian Federation, in order to somehow pay off their exorbitantly huge external debt !!!
    1. Dima Dima_2 Offline
      Dima Dima_2 (Dima Dima) 10 June 2020 21: 02
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      Well, they only discuss) But the Russian Empire did sell Alaska)
      1. Bitter Offline
        Bitter (Gleb) 10 June 2020 23: 35
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        "Boris Nikolaichi," they are, hmmm ... "democratic." Once they do balabalism. The barin said - the barin did, they do not throw words into the wind / whether.
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        oracul (leonid) 11 June 2020 07: 23
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        With Alaska - a dark story. Either sold or leased, because the defeat in the Crimean War created financial difficulties for the Russian Empire. And the documents referred to disappeared into obscurity.
  2. How touching the care of American crocodiles about the satiety and well-being of Russia! Looks like the face still hurts since 2014!
  3. beeper Offline
    beeper 10 June 2020 19: 33
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    Washington, as always, is cunning!
    It is enough to hypothetically imagine that the American plan to transform (Russophobian-ethnogenocidal post-Maidan and oturechenny!!) Crimea into its "unsinkable aircraft carrier" would succeed - the Black Sea and the entire Black Sea region would be under the complete control of the US and NATO aggressors, with NATO naval base in the Hero City of Sevastopol ... it would be a mortal wound in the heart of Russians and Russia (incomparable to the Bialowieza drunken Crimean "bicker" EBN and his Kozyrk), after such derogatory disgrace the overthrow of the Russian government and the collapse of the country would be inevitable "only a matter of time "!
    It is good that the President of Russia, the State Duma and the General Staff understood this on time!
    And the fact that (at the very last moment, profuc Crimea tongue ) Washington’s “offended” (as well as very annoying, Ankaran) tryndyats - this is no longer scary!
    The Americans would have entered their “sanctions” against Russia without “Crimea and Donbass”, would have found (they themselves would have provoked, even with the help of a plane crash, as they did with MH17, or some kind of “spyware, hacker, scandal”! ) another reason for this (as they "find reasons" for their "anti-Chinese sanctions")!
    Desalination plants on the peninsula needed to be built immediately after joining Russia - Russian forecasters and analysts did not show their best! request
    Alas, as in most cases, the Russian authorities do not foresee and do not initiate themselves, but weave in the tail of events, only responding to other people's "challenges", and even that is not at all "furious" - such a "victim position" naturally "stimulates" even limitrophy countries for new attacks!
    And yet, under the Ukrainian authorities in the Crimea, bureaucratic embezzlement and bribery extremely flourished (it was a “common occurrence"!) - did something change for the better "under Russia" (at least half of the huge "state investments") after the opportunistic "change of shoes in the jump" , after the "distribution" came to the "intended use" ??!) "?!
    1. Dear sofa expert. 10 June 2020 20: 50
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      Almost everything I agree with you. Only in one place:

      Alas, as in most cases, the Russian authorities do not foresee and do not initiate themselves, but weave in the tail of events, only responding to other people's "challenges."

      I would still make a significant amendment, in favor of the Russian leadership.
      You must consider that the enemy of Russia is very, very not simple. The Americans masterfully put up "obstacles", slowing down both the pace and the initiative, forcing Russia to react unprofitable for itself according to the rules of the "game" imposed by them.
      I believe that with such a powerful counteraction, Russia is very worthy of holding the blow. The Crimean question (and with water too) will be solved sooner or later. For some reason I don’t even doubt it.
      1. beeper Offline
        beeper 10 June 2020 21: 53
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        The Crimean question (and with water too) will be solved sooner or later. For some reason I don’t even doubt it.

        hi I put you a fat Plus! I also have no doubt about this, comrade Dear couch expert, water desalination plants in the Crimea will be built "not sooner - later," in the end, through a stump deck, in an emergency, and with hyper-costs "for urgency" - "as always" ! yes
        But you can’t be "Emelyas on the stove," because they say about us that "Russians are strong with their back minds! In any confrontation, as in battle, who managed to impose their initiative on the enemy, he won! In Crimea, 2014, the Russian “collective Putin” did succeed at the last moment!
        But they relaxed, became demagnetized, early - one battle won, this is by no means the whole war won - it is necessary to constantly show and force the hostile "partners" to take their own initiative, "forcing unconditional peace (surrender - otherwise it will only be a truce before the treacherous attack!)"!
        I am Russian (it’s that “Muscovite” whose “stubbornly" nationally visible "banderloo, long before the" orange "and" Euromaidan ", under the friendly smiles of all sorts of Russian" black-eyed-zurabov "and unmeasured billion-dollar subsidies to the" Ukrainian "Russophobes from the Russian authorities , openly threatened to kill - to take "on knives" and hang "on a gilliak" - and the same, almost the same thing, already openly, is happening in present Belarus!) described a third-party look from the "country - Limitroph", recalled the American colony " Not Russia ", but you - how it is (supposedly" worthily holding a blow ") you see from Russia. request
        1. Dear sofa expert. 10 June 2020 22: 49
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          ... one battle won, this is by no means the whole war won

          Well, that is, you understand that Russia’s Crimea is not the only front. The whole centuries-old history of Russia is a struggle. All-round defense. And every part of Russia is its concern. Focusing on one thing is to expose something else. Therefore, slowly, without fuss.

          In any confrontation, as in battle, who managed to impose their initiative on the enemy, he won!

          - This formula is for everyone except Russia. Therefore, neither Napoleon’s plans nor any “barbarossa” work here. Russia is a separate world, or, as they say today, a format. “.. she’s special to become ..” That's it.
          1. beeper Offline
            beeper 11 June 2020 00: 22
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            hi The minus was not mine - leveled out with its Plus, as an encouragement for further development and "sharpening of thought", comrade Dear couch expert!
            Alas, while you are not very good at “thinking in a combat” - I already see that this is “not the strongest” Your side is “not Sun Tzu” even tactically, but my hope is dying last and this is by no means “all it says "! wink
            And, really, to someone, but I don’t need to tell for our Russian World how and why! yes
            The current RF is only a part - its stronghold and it is now under great threat!

            "Formulas for victory" are common to all, like them (you are "of the best intentions", or what ?! winked ) "patriotic" neither "twist" - while we did not seriously grasp this and were engaged in "hatred", gossiping in our gossip about our "special reason", we were defeated by Napoleon-Hitlers and others!
            But then, “as always”, “pressed against the wall”, when there is nowhere to retreat, we had a “back mind” and then we were firmly on the Victory Path (our “strategies” based on our “partners” and their current “strategies” , in every possible way undermining our Russian World from the inside and defragmenting along the edges!)!
            1. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 00: 42
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              Tactics, Strategy, “think in combat”, “Sun Tzu”)).

              Have fun)
              You know, as a Russian, the state is closer to me:

              Living in the mind of absolute power
              With a sacred sensation in us
              Dormant instincts laid from birth
              Ready for awakening at a difficult time.


              Do you know whose lines these are?
              1. beeper Offline
                beeper 11 June 2020 02: 07
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                hi And you also amused me after midnight - Plus, definitely! good
                At least Blok (like "yes, Scythians we, yes, Asians ...") or Tyutchev these lines obviously do not pull! request
                The "author's messages" of piita are too head-on and without brainwave frills, almost in an accounting way (in the poetic style "a la monologues" of the films "Alexander Nevsky", "Brother-1", "Brother-2"), everything is rhymed, listed, for us Russians, the inherent, without any subtext “concealment,” does not at all stimulate the poetics of the imagination.
                It’s like carefully painted, to the smallest detail, drawn “photographically accurate (with its own image invariably added and completely leaving no space for the imagination of the audience!)” Glossy paintings, at one time a “shining”, “academic” artist and artisan Glazunov ... from of the same series of "patriotically win-win-stroking self-esteem" soundly cobbled together crafts "for esthetic educators" ??! winked
                Google helped to immediately find the verse and its author (with eloquently "talking" about "creative ambitions", a literary pseudonym)! yes
                Thank you, comrade. Dear couch expert, it was interesting to read - my hopes for your improvement received additional recharge! drinks
                All the best to you, colleague! hi
                Sorry, for my inappropriate, too pragmatic cynicism and lack of reverence for "authorities" - this is from my childhood, after my own death.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 09: 46
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                  All the best to you, colleague!

                  Wow, how many emotions caused my poem!)))
                  Yes, you're right, of course, I am not Tyutchev, and not Blok. All of them cannot be. Yes and whether it is necessary?
                  And I really (like many here) grew up on films like Alexander Nevsky.
                  The incredible power of this film lies in its stunning imagery, which makes its way into the very depths of the Russian mentality, reinforcing patriotic feelings. This explains the resounding rolling success of this film, both in 1938 and during the re-rental in 1941-1942.
                  It was precisely such masterpieces as this film that at one time gave strength to the Russian people to defeat a terrible enemy. And it was with the image of Nevsky, and not Tyutchev, that the Russian soldier went into mortal combat.

                  And it is the one who understands this - he is, in his soul, a real Russian.

                  Are you trying to position yourself here as “the most Russian of Russians”, and tell me about some “Sun Tzu”?

                  No, dear. The strength of the Russian man is not in “military thoughts”, not in “strategies and tactics”, and not in Chinese wisdom to wave his heels in the face).

                  The strength of the Russian man lies in GREATNESS OF HIS SOUL. There is, you know, such a word - GREAT.

                  When you come to understand the meaning of this word, then you can safely call yourself RUSSIAN!

                  In the meantime, I can only ask you a simpler question: WHY POWER, BROTHER?)
                  1. beeper Offline
                    beeper 11 June 2020 10: 34
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                    hi Eco you, predictably - pathos, "suffered (" ... and then Ostap suffered! ")", It was worth only to "press the buttons", in a grouse (tokuyu, not hearing your vis-a-vis wink), comrade Dear couch expert, although not at the address (and besides, it is instructive in a neophytic way)))!
                    For the flamboyantly correct (I myself adore such pathos, knocking down a tear, slogans!) A verse and words about truly Russian people, to you, my "enlightened teacher" and poet "Alexander Fibonacci", Plus from me! good
                    Now re-read yourself and look at yourself through the same declared prism of “such a word” - GREAT! yes
                    What do you see in yourself, honestly, in that discrepancy, admit to yourself (not to me and not to the readers, but, at least, in vain, by the way, do you, the modern poet, “know” this “word”) ?! wink
                    In principle, “reconnaissance in battle (substitute and“ call fire on oneself ”)” is an effective “working technique”, so you will quickly recognize your counterpart - “sho wines for dynasty (what is it like)!”, And it’s easy to run into to the Westoid from the "nationalsvidomy" and other margins, including the Russian, the Americanoid "educational libera" ... disguised as "fervent patriots." smile
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 11: 02
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                      Now re-read yourself and look at yourself through the same declared prism of “such a word” - GREAT!

                      Don’t worry so much for me, comrade Pishchak)

                      Even as a “non-Russian”, I remain Russian, and do not be shy about my Russianness.

                      But you, dear, apparently don’t put on a jacket that is not of the size if, even if you find shelter (or salvation?) In Russia, you are embarrassed to become a full-fledged part of this Russian world.

                      Well, yes, comfortable, and unfortunately, recently, a recognizable position.

                      I am not me, and the dupa is not mine. Suddenly, soon again, somewhere will have to run.

                      Indeed, brother (or nevertheless "non-brother")?

                      And your irony about my creative pseudonym is generally inappropriate. My surname is too “conspicuous” to “shine like a star”, but I generously forgive you for this “lifeless misunderstanding”.
                      1. beeper Offline
                        beeper 11 June 2020 11: 44
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                        Yes, I’m not worried about you, Dear sofa expert!
                        Although I see that by chance, not from evil, I sensibly wounded your "subtle mental organization." repeat
                        And I’m very glad that you "generously forgave this," because as they have told me more than once - "my tongue is my enemy", I am too stingy! yes
                        I understood from the context of this message of yours (as well as your previous ones) that you are surely (as in that old, still Soviet, joke "about the Chukchi"!) "Not a reader", but a "writer" - enter information in the texts written to you do not assimilate at all ??! winked
                        What is my "shelter in Russia" - "You shaw, from a hollow oak" ?! wassat
                        With all due respect, the Sofa Expert with a "too conspicuous surname (much less that" pathetic "Mathematician Leonardo Pisansky, nicknamed Fibonacci, before you -" great ... "??! smile ) ", stop" sucking out of my finger "about my supposedly" somewhere running dupa "- I sit on my opera straight, do not run away and do not" fidget ", in spite of any threats to my life and life - to the health of my relatives! wink smile
                        Where did I write or expressed that I’m embarrassed that I’m Russian (even when banderlogs called me and called “Muscovite”, “cotton wool”, “Separ”, “Colorado” and threaten to kill me - I openly say that I am Russian!) - this is your public “unreasonable presentation”, which you cannot a priori “substantiate”!
                        To put it in the language of the street, then put you Plus or shake your hand - it’s irreversibly “shut up”, alas .... negative
                        All the best to you, hyper "Russian" You are ours! hi
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 12: 27
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                        ... then put you Plus or shake your hand - it’s irreversibly “stick up”

                        Again, get excited, dear) Apparently, you don’t get used to “getting into foolishness” after your thoughtless, arrogant statements.
                        You have already been “clever” about the “lantern rupture” of the Rafal plane), here are your words (I am not generously writing the most pathos of the text):

                        But I thought that the shooting of the general (detachable joints in the glazing is not noticeable, and only a couple of hinges on the entire lamp.

                        - and after I tactfully, not hitting your dignity, I sent you a video, indicating the seconds, where you can see the place of the emergency lantern rupture, you had to "bum" with the words:

                        Thank you for your reply, aka "Dear Sofa Expert"!

                        See how it would happen again in the future with you).
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                        beeper 11 June 2020 15: 07
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                        I see that you, Uv. Sofa expert, you really do not understand the meaning of "this word" - "zashkvar"! request
                        What is yours, even if it’s too arrogant, “hurt” my dignity and my “cleverness” because of some technical details of the flight accident there on blurry photos and meager details, if you then reasonably supplemented the picture of the incident with Rafal ?!
                        Didn’t I tactfully thank you for your work in finding and communicating the accompanying details in order to “pat on self-esteem” and stimulate (obviously prone to laudable perfectionism, volunteer) further similar “work with nuances” in the interests of readers of the Site ?! smile
                        Such meticulous colleagues who provide interesting information or express interesting thoughts, opinions, as well as colleagues who radiate optimism and simply use a funny witty word, I really appreciate and don’t hesitate to praise, as I don’t hesitate to plus - “raise higher in the rating” at every opportunity. winked

                        I’m completely untouched by your noticeable, arrogant “showers,” I sympathize with creative people with low self-esteem (and, as a result, vulnerable self-esteem), who at once need to “recognize their unique significance” and enjoy stroking you, do not deny.
                        It’s a pity, of course, that I overestimated your psychological stability and self-criticism, in prompting you to work deeper on yourself - exceeded the dose of criticism, but I know how wounded artists and poets go about satanizing.
                        Although, your patriotic verse praised, only expressed a personal opinion that everything was too “taken into account”, as in the accounting report, that, they say, there was no room left for the flight of the reader’s imagination, that everything was somehow “mechanically blinded”, albeit smoothly rhymed into "right words", but to the detriment of poetics ?! And you "soared" and "rushed over the bumps, not choosing the road" ?! smile

                        It’s about the current (not at all technical or touching my "cleverness"), "sucked out of the finger", your fundamental (and yet these Russian principles of mine have already cost me the health and death of my loved ones, not in blessed Germany!) " presenting ", which you a priori will never be able to" justify ", no matter how many are clever! negative
                        So this is my last conversation with you, Uv. sofa expert - because "squander" communication with you, for me now "zapadlo (you know" this word "?!)))"! wink
                      4. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 16: 48
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                        You can save your rhetoric, which seems clever to you, for others. You did not impress me with this.

                        It was you who started to pull up and get personal, with your “assessments” of my qualities, even before I showed the poem:

                        Alas, while you are not very good at “thinking in a combat” - I already see that this is “not the strongest” side of you - “not Sun Tzu” even tactically.

                        But even after that, mind you, I have not touched your person yet. But your boorish ambitions, apparently, were not enough, and you for me, in general, not hurting you with anything personal, a poem, repeatedly tried to call me "culturally" a fool.

                        Your language, apparently, is actually your enemy. But this is your problem.

                        Regarding the last conversation, I advise you not to promise, because for this, then, apparently, you will have to leave this forum. Because here everyone can express their opinion, regardless of your desire.
                      5. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 17: 12
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                        ... I am sympathetic and sympathetic to creative people with low self-esteem

                        They made fun)) You just envied me, right?
                        The fact that I wrote a couple of dozen poems in my life does not make me either a poet or a creative person. I understand this, and therefore this does not affect my self-esteem. I am fine. Family, children, grandchildren, friends, houses, cars, good work .. what else is needed, by your standards, to reach the top of Maslov’s pyramid?)
                        Factories / steamboats, however, no - I repent)

                        Everything else is a hobby. Including being on the VO. If I were looking for self-assertion here, I probably would have also done that I was sitting in a “drawer” and scribbling as long and abstruse / poisonous “soap dishes” as you.
                  2. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 12: 35
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                    ... so much to that "pathetic" Mathematician Leonardo of Pisa, nicknamed Fibonacci, to you- "great ..." ??!

                    I have a hobby. It is closely related to the use of the proportions of "Fibonacci numbers." Therefore, opening on “Stichira” (also my hobby) my modest page, he wrote the first thing that occurred to me. Of course, I could call myself some “Elliot Waves”)), but I thought that in the future it would be more difficult for you to understand this).
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    A.Lex (Secret information) 11 June 2020 16: 29
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    Squealer, and on the other hand, the instant answer is most often incorrect. Most suitable in politics:

    Revenge is a dish that is served cold.

    And the best revenge would be to "help" ex. USSR to drink the cup to the bottom ... to the bottom ...
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      beeper 11 June 2020 19: 28
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      hi Yes, all right, comrade A.Lex, we are already drinking (the Russian bourgeois most certainly "help" their fuels, including fuel and lubricants and spare parts for the APU - even weapons and military equipment left in the Crimea were transported to the bloodiest year of fighting in the Donbas , helping the "Ukrainians" klepto "w / bandera" to quickly suppress our anti-oligarchic Russian Spring, so as not to spread to Russia), punching bottom after bottom, like in a Russian doll! yes
      It’s painful to watch and I don’t want the same sad American-colonial share for, no less kindred to me, the former BSSR, which the “Fatherland” anti-Russian “Litvin” and “Zmagara” are already pulling to slaughter the West! request
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        A.Lex (Secret information) 12 June 2020 12: 49
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        Yes, the AHL itself helps them to the best of their understanding ...
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 June 2020 12: 57
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    Quote: pishchak
    It is good that the President of Russia, the State Duma and the General Staff understood this on time!
    And the fact that (at the very last moment who profaned Crimea) "offended" Washington (as well as very annoying, Ankaran) trynds is no longer scary!

    A referendum on the Crimea has been preparing for more than one day, everyone knew about it. Do you really think that in the USA they were sitting in a stupor and could not think of anything during this time?
    If desired, he could easily be upset: for example, Kiev could order the Ukrainian units on the peninsula to show armed resistance, blood would flow, journalists would come, the international community would demand an end to the violence and threatened with sanctions. Result: the referendum would simply not be held.
    But why has none of this been done? Maybe Putin was simply allowed to take Crimea, and then impose sanctions for it and upset relations with Ukraine and Europe? ..
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      beeper 12 June 2020 14: 50
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      hi Dear comrade Sergei Marzhetsky, everything is so, but not so! I will say how I then and a little later (getting acquainted with the documents and testimonies of the participants in the events) saw, as briefly as possible.
      US military intelligence frankly recognized immediately after the "Crimean events (what they are embellished" telling "is not interesting to me) that Russia did not even predict the" annexation of Crimea "- they were so sure that the Russian-dependent kleptoligarchs would not give V.V. Putin (with his then shaken power and declining popularity among the people) nothing such and such to be done, even if he decides to.
      But, as you can see, at the last moment your President understood that to give the Crimea to the Americans under the base, and banderlog and Turkoman under the bloody genocide of the Russian population - this is not only for him, but for Russia as well, he rushed and moved the State Duma with the General Staff, desperately took a chance and won!
      The Americans were in a stupor, as well as their henchmen - Ukrainian “proxies” who greedily and selflessly gnawed among themselves for the tangible Kiev “tit in the hand”, while the Crimean “crane in the sky” was fleeing them “far away” - The complacent Washington was not ready to send its expeditionary force to capture Crimea, and would not have time! Apparently, the amero-fascists, realizing this, hoped non-military way to "toughen up" the Russian authorities and connect the Russian "libera (which, as everyone saw, began to actively campaign for American plans!)" ?!
      As for the Kiev order, the Ukrainian units in the Crimea to start hostilities - this was fraught with excesses of mass non-fulfillment of such an order, because the Maidan junta created a power vacuum with its coup d'etat and none of the Ukrainian "parquet commanders" - kondic careerists who are used to keeping their noses in the wind and living sweetly with Deriban army property (especially in the resort Crimea with its Crimean mafia, where you and the shortest ways to smuggle weapons and trade in the Crimean land that belonged to the military and civilian ...) did not dare to take on such responsibility.
      Moreover, in Kiev and regional and district cities and towns at that time an active redistribution of power was going on - all sorts of “right-wing” sectors beat their faces not only to the “fenders”, but also to their own maydauns, in the struggle for “feed portfolios” and other “nishtyaks” - all the turbidity-kalamut was “active”, in a hurry to snatch more during the period of anarchy and there was a lot of uncertainty with the legitimate status of all these temporary leaders, because they did not have or did not have real power!
      The security forces generally found themselves in a situation where it is unclear to whom to obey, because Yanyk, although he escaped, could return ...
      Everyone was waiting (“eastern” Ukrainians with Nadezhda, and “zapadents” who had miscalculated the pro-American coup d'état - in Panic) that Eastern and Central Ukraine (at least) would be annexed to Russia - after all, on March 1, 2014 the Federation Council of the Russian Federation temporarily allowed the President of Russia to use the aircraft abroad !
      The vaunted “world community (as well as its media!)” Was itself implicated in shit and blood of the unconstitutional Kiev “Euro Maidan” - it was an active organizer and participant in the overthrow of the constitutional Ukrainian government !!!
      Where should he go into the Crimea if Washington curators planned there to be a mass bloody massacre of millions of Russian people brought from the "Maidan" and Zapukria by Bandera-Nazi and local Crimean Turkish terrorist gangs, carefully cultivated under the wing of the Security Service of Ukraine and cordial sight (American, Turkish, Saud .. Intelligence)!
      To push the "international community" into its "anti-Russian sanctions", Washington had to arrange a grand provocation with the destruction (I think that with the help of a bomb) of the international flight MH17 in July 2014, only then they managed to force the European vassals who rested on mega-dredges for themselves American "sanctions"!
      The Americans themselves needed Crimea, and they still do not grieve for it childishly - they demand that they be returned under any pretext, because Washington already considered it in their pocket and Washington’s plans for a “blitzkrieg” and dominance in the Black Sea and the Black Sea, collapsed with the loss of the peninsula! They were not going to give Crimea to anyone - they were preparing for themselves even with the supposedly “pro-Russian” Yanukovych-Azarov!
      Recep Tayyip is also frantic, as the peninsula should have departed post-Maidan under the protectorate of Turkey, as a member of NATO and a longtime US ally!
      So banderlogs in vain regret “the loss of the Crimea” - the Yankees would not have been allowed to enter the Crimean threshold (except to serve as a “schutzman-guard policeman” and in “tolerance houses”, like their ancestors served the Nazis), but among the Turkoman, “ Medzhlisovites "Dzhemilev and Chubarov, indeed," covered themselves with a copper basin "have real chances to serve the Turkish and American occupiers of the Crimea" errands "(would be with broader powers of the ameroholuyu than now -" errands "in post-Maidan Kiev)!
      About “they simply allowed Putin to take Crimea to quarrel Ukraine with Russia” - this is “a good mine with a bad game,” the same Amer-Bandera "tales" post factumas well as the "legends of the KhPP", like the Hollywood "re-display" of historical events in the light favorable to the US authorities!
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        beeper 12 June 2020 15: 19
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        hi In addition, Sergey, having “correctly orientated” everything, the Crimean kleptol-hunters were able “under Russia” to successfully, without any criminal prosecution, legalize everything that was unjustly “acquired” under the Ukrainian authorities, with the help of “abuse of office”! request
        Visiting the South Coast after 2014, I saw with my own eyes new (more numerous!) High fences and obstacles on the way to the sea, instead of the Crimeans joyfully demolished in the Crimean Spring!
        And the Crimean-Ukrainian state courtyards now without fear, grinning impudently, drive expensive cars with their "logos" on the sides and state and trade union property (the most equipped pieces of sanatoriums and infrastructure near the coastline) "shamefully seized" by Ukraine) these "alchena "they fenced as their" private property ", because they stole it from the people under the Ukrainian government, and not" in Russian jurisdiction "and therefore such a criminal act is no longer considered theft ?! wink
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        Marzhecki (Sergei) 13 June 2020 07: 36
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        I understand you, the arguments are sound. But I see the situation from a slightly different angle. The referendum was extremely simple to prevent by starting to shoot. Pour blood, even if not in large quantities, there would be nothing, no referendum. Remember how Solovyov said - "We promised nothing to anyone." Our "green men" would simply quietly be returned to the base and jumped off the topic.
        The answer is so obvious that one has to wonder why there was really no resistance. In my opinion, too many myths have been created around the reunion over the past 5-6 years, and, moreover, by ourselves.
        About the fact that they prepared Crimea for themselves. Maybe they did it. But remember, the USA is an empire with many competing factions and development projects. Right now, "Imperial" Trump is smashing all the structures of the "globalists", although they ensured the dominance of the "hegemon". It would seem, why shoot yourself in the foot? But the point is the competition between different development projects and approaches. On the issue of Crimea, at a certain stage, they might consider that breaking gas and technological cooperation with Ukraine and the West is more valuable than the NATO base in Sevastopol. Do they have few bases, or what? Here, they are building near Ochakov, then they will appear near Kharkov ...
        PS My personal complaint to Putin is that, having taken the Crimea, he left Novorossia and the rest of Ukraine to the Americans. This was an unacceptable mistake, the consequences of which we disentangle with all these “streams”, etc., and do not dissolve in any way. Until April-May 2014, there were plenty of great opportunities to resolve the issue in our favor, but after this visit of the Swiss they were flushed down the toilet.

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          beeper 13 June 2020 10: 23
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          hi We all (like our banderlogs) in Ukraine also had a surprise why Russia ("collective Putin") did not go further than Crimea and took away, at least, Novorossiya when it was "on a silver platter." I thought a lot about this, trying to perceive the situation as a whole (at various levels), the way it was seen from the Kremlin, and not from Ukraine ....
          In your claims to President of Russia Vladimir Putin, you miss out on his huge responsibility, first of all, for your country and your population and the fact that he is, nevertheless, a “slave on the galleys” - a dependent “product” of his comrenegative neo-bourgeois “class of kleptonuvorishis”. winked
          For saving Russia at the turn of the gloomy "saints of the 90s" and brightening "zero", giving the country (very difficult to manage!) A general impulse to leave the edge of the gap, to him, a conscientious and diligent civil (not military !!!) government official, for civic courage and truly Russian Spirit in the Salvation of the Russian Crimea - Many Thanks and Unfading Grateful Memory, his Name will not be forgotten by descendants (though I am not Wolf Messing, but sometimes I also see the future. smile )! yes
          Crimea (this "smoldering explosion", drunk Bialowieza "jamb" of criminal EBN) could not be taken, otherwise the process of unconditional US domination in the Black Sea and the collapse of Russia would have started, so this (military and politically strategic!) Step was a forced absolutely "I don’t want to", at the very last moment!
          VV Putin and his supporters in the Russian government, nevertheless, were able to convince their (a priori Western-like!) Mega-mercantile and timidly cautious "classmates (the general mood of which is broadcast by your Solovyov - the" talking head of the Russian establishment "!)" in need of the "annexation of Crimea"!
          The moment of the Kiev "division of portfolios" and the opportunistic "embarrassment in the brains" of the Crimean kleptochnikov and kleptovochnachalnikov was favorable for this, a little later, when the "Maidan power" strengthened and organized in Kiev, such a "peaceful reunion" would be problematic .... but , as we know, “history has no subjunctive mood” - “he who dared, he ate”!
          But with the rest of the “steps in Ukraine” there was “not so simple”, and the openly anti-oligarchic slogans of the anti-Maidan population of the industrial areas of historical Novorossia radically differed from the slogans of “resort-tourist-pensioner” Crimea (separate “felting fences on the way to the sea” local kleptochinas quickly localized and stopped on the South Coast!), and were very close to the aspirations of Russian workers from neighboring regions, so, at our joint passionary "revolutionary upsurge" in the anti-oligarchic "revision of the results of the privatization and nationalization of plants and factories, ..." could and the Russian kleptoligarchs with the servants to be disgraced, but they needed it ?! It would certainly not have been good for Vladimir Putin to do so - "class mates" could easily destroy him, and even American "partners" would help ...
          Therefore, I think that the Russian authorities, so "irrationally" caring, "returned" serviceable weapons from Crimea to their Ukrainian counterparts - for the speedy suppression of the Russian Spring in the South-East of Ukraine, until it spread to Russia ?! winked
          The NATO naval base in the shallow Ochakovo (even taking into account the submarine-sabotage component on Pervomaisky Island, possible objects on the Berezan Island and the Ochakov military airfield) can not be compared with Sevastopol, Balaklava, Feodosiya, Kerch, ... and the Crimean infrastructure, coupled with fleet repair base!
          Blood shed then - Turkoman and banderlogs in Crimea killed a lot of people, even provocatively shot a Ukrainian soldier, more than once tried to arrange “under the camera of journalists” provocations with the “bloody homes of the ani-children” (according to the Kiev model, the students were already drenched in pig or bull blood) in a parked car of his exit to engaged journalists), "explosions and arsons, not to mention all sorts of" inscriptions ", and we also remember the Ukrainian air colonel, goat provocateur, shouting" America is with us! " trying to provoke "polite people" to any aggressive actions ...
          But all these attempts of Bandera-Nazi provocations, carried out by local and visiting extremists, stopped in time and were not given expanse!
          Many Ukrainian servicemen were from Crimeans - their houses and apartments were here, why did they have to start a war with Russia, they did not allow their “Svidomo” colleagues to do this!
          By the way, many of the Crimean Ukrainian soldiers who refused to serve Russia and left "on the mainland" now regret it very much, even zapadentsy!
          About the "changed" Crimean bureaucrats, satisfied with the Russian legalization of their criminally-stolen "under Ukraine", I already wrote above, their dissatisfaction with the fact that "under Russia" they can punish for the present theft, and even our Ukrainian anarchy with the execution of laws now it’s become smaller - after all, the Russian bureaucratic machine is smarter and tougher than the Ukrainian one (although there are also enough “bureaucratic loopholes” and bureaucratic gagging, and not only local, but official “Vikings” sent by Moscow are quite “odd”! request )!
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            Marzhecki (Sergei) 13 June 2020 10: 41
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            Quote: pishchak
            In your claims to the President of Russia Vladimir Putin, you miss his enormous responsibility, first of all, for your country and your population and the fact that he is, after all, a “slave on the galleys” —a dependent “product of his comrenegative non-bourgeois” class of kleptonians. "

            It is necessary to understand then to whom he has a higher responsibility, to the people or the oligarchic class, whose henchman he is. smile Actually, you yourself answered:

            Therefore, I think that the Russian authorities, so "irrationally" caring, "returned" serviceable weapons from Crimea to their Ukrainian counterparts, for the speedy suppression of the Russian Spring in the South-East of Ukraine, until it spread to Russia ?!

            Is belonging to this class and servicing its interests as a matter of priority a mitigating circumstance, which should remove claims, and not vice versa, strengthen them?
            I remember the slogans of Lesha Mozgovoy ... Honestly, it was his murder that affected me the most. Before that, in 2014-2015, I wrote several dozen articles on VO under a pseudonym, but after a long time I quit this business, before joining Reporter, in early 2018.
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              beeper 13 June 2020 11: 28
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              hi When I realized this, my sincere bewilderment (both about New Russia, and Russia's recognition of the anti-Russian-anti-Russian Kiev junta, "return from the Crimea" - the supply of weapons and equipment, fuel and lubricants and spare parts, AFU and "carbates" in the midst of fighting in the Donbass, and in Minsk, and in a series of "accidental" deaths of "irreconcilable" passionaries ... Alexei Mozgovoy was too sincere and ardent Patriot of our Russian World, inexperienced in political intrigues, that he thought, even boldly said, had the makings of a passionate leader and already authoritatively showed them, so it was dangerous for the Ukrainian and Russian kleptobourgeois ...) disappeared - everything turned out into an integral "oil painting".
              “Slave in the galleys” - this was a statement-recognition, when it seemed to V.V. Putin that the burden of the presidency was already behind, perhaps even an impromptu burst from him ...?! winked
              With a self-willed capture of Crimea under Russian protection, he, like a true Patriot of Russia, but a hired official, "jumped above his head" and very angered the Washington hosts of the Russian klepto-bugs, his entourage.
              Vladimir Putin is by no means a superman, weak and dependent, does for Russia and the Russians what his employers can and what he is allowed to, and certainly not me, not a Russian, to judge him!
              After all, the Russian “collective Putin” and Vladimirovich Vladimirovich, as his personification, by the decision of the Federation Council on May 2014, XNUMX, were overwhelmed with panic fear (to the shit - it was joyful and sweet to watch how all this rabid “myzdobulskoe” scum was skerking through the cracks and even “asked understand and forgive, "even if temporarily, until I realized that it was only" Putin’s praises ", but that post-maid arrogance from the" impudent "impunity of the" myzobul "was no more - there was a" caution ", fear for their crimes is now constantly present , some “heroes” do not even show their “punitive” UBDs for free travel in vehicles, they are afraid to “light up” the future “answer”, since it’s already clear to them that the unclear “Ukraine” doesn’t mean much, the inevitable “hap” and defragmentation will come!) to the overwhelming Bandera-Nazis and their accomplices, and for these past years they postponed my inevitable execution!
              I never forget good (as well as the evil done), and the Russian "collective Putin", as well as personally - to Vladimir Putin, I am grateful for that! yes
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            Marzhecki (Sergei) 13 June 2020 10: 56
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            Even then, in satirical form, I wrote, it seems to me, one of my best publications -

            https://topwar.ru/65284-urok-istorii.html
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    Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 10 June 2020 20: 36
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    Russia will pull the territory of the Crimea, but it’s possible to deport Ukrainian natives to their brethren.
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    Andrey Semin (Andrey Semin) 10 June 2020 21: 10
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    Take care of your problems, and we will deal with our snotty ones.
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    123 (123) 10 June 2020 22: 08
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    Its burden does not pull.
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    oracul (leonid) 11 June 2020 07: 32
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    Well, all right, let the Yankees rejoice at least for something, otherwise Russia, by its very existence, simply poisoned a poor life of poor Americans. One joy lately - Mask cosmonauts sent to the ISS.
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    aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 15: 22
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Even then, in satirical form, I wrote, it seems to me, one of my best publications -

    https://topwar.ru/65284-urok-istorii.html

    Well, if THIS is the best, then what is THE WORST? ALL THE REST?