Russia with one torpedo changed the entire balance of power at sea

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The latest Russian submarine Khabarovsk, equipped with unique Poseidon nuclear torpedoes, can radically change the balance of power in the waters of the World Ocean, as well as the tactics of conducting underwater warfare. About this write experts of the American edition of Forbes.

Not much is known about this Russian submarine. From the information available, it can be understood that it will have much in common with submarines of the Northwind type. Apparently, in the front of the Khabarovsk hull there will be six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes (in fact this is a deep-sea unmanned vehicle with a nuclear power plant - ed.), Which makes the submarine unique in its kind.



These torpedoes have a very wide range of applications, and therefore they pose a danger to the coastal cities of the United States - Los Angeles and New York. The Russian military department describes the new weapon as multi-purpose, and it can be aimed at American aircraft carriers

- emphasize in Forbes.


In addition to Khabarovsk, the Poseidon torpedoes are also armed with the Belgorod submarine launched on April 23, 2019. It already has much larger dimensions and is likely to be the largest submarine not only in Russia but also in the world.

American journalists note that Khabarovsk and other submarines with unique combat vehicles on board can fundamentally change the military priorities of the United States and Great Britain for the next decades. Countering the Russian “threat” will cost Western countries billions of dollars.
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    1. -1
      10 June 2020 12: 15
      The US Navy in the oceans and seas came END ...
      Glory to Russia!
      1. We also do not need to build aircraft carriers!
      2. -2
        11 June 2020 17: 16
        The US Navy in the oceans and seas came END.

        - I have heard similar nonsense since the days of the USSR.
      3. 0
        12 June 2020 09: 15
        Quote: Warrior
        The US Navy in the oceans and seas came END ...
        Glory to Russia!

        Well done. Do not lower the chain. Yes
    2. -1
      10 June 2020 13: 31
      Now it’s clear why from the States our citizens reached back to Russia ...
      1. 0
        12 June 2020 09: 16
        Quote: Bulanov
        Now it’s clear why from the States our citizens reached back to Russia ...

        There is a middle-aged crisis. fool drinks
      2. +1
        26 June 2020 10: 32
        In terms of the number of emigrants, Russia is in third place in the world ranking, overtaking, for example, disadvantaged countries like Pakistan and Syria, as well as the most populous China. In total, there are 10,6 million Russians left around the world - this is 7% of the Russian population and 4% of the total number of emigrants on a global scale. Moreover, this is the data of Rosstat, which are underestimated at times.
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          +2
          30 June 2020 18: 11
          In terms of the number of emigrants, Russia is in third place in the world ranking, overtaking, for example, disadvantaged countries like Pakistan and Syria, as well as the most populous China. In total, there are 10,6 million Russians left around the world - this is 7% of the Russian population and 4% of the total number of emigrants on a global scale. Moreover, this is the data of Rosstat, which are underestimated at times.

          Russia is on the 4th place in terms of the number of migrants, more than 12 million. More go only to the USA, Saudi Arabia and Germany, naturally, in accordance with your logic, the data for the USA, Saudi Arabia and Germany are inflated at times. laughing
    3. -3
      10 June 2020 16: 23
      Wunderwaffle.
      1. 0
        12 June 2020 09: 16
        Quote: Dedok
        Wunderwaffle.

        Yes Yes And what do you mean against?
    4. -9
      10 June 2020 19: 49
      Russia with one torpedo NOTHING CHANGED!

      "Poseidon" CAN CHANGE dramatically the alignment of forces in the waters of the oceans, as well as tactics of conducting submarine warfare.

      Keyword CAN! As the Russian agitprom likes to wish out for reality! Simply put, hang noodles on your ears. fellow
      1. +1
        10 June 2020 20: 12
        Interception of Poseidon is impossible today. Is that the strongest electromagnetic pulse. But where to get it? Moreover, if you take into account the dimensions of the device, it can easily carry a 50-megaton nuclear charge, and this is the total destruction of cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles. The United States, unlike Russia, has key and most populated cities on the coast. So yes, Poseidon is changing the alignment, not only at sea, but also in principle.
        1. -5
          10 June 2020 22: 09
          Interception of Poseidon is impossible today.

          Who told you such nonsense? Agitprom?
          The general principle of intercepting ANY high-speed targets is interception in oncoming courses. Nobody is going to chase them. lol
          1. +1
            10 June 2020 22: 11
            The general principle of intercepting ANY high-speed targets is interception in oncoming courses.

            Fine. Can you tell me systems capable of intercepting an apparatus traveling at a depth of one kilometer under water?
            1. -5
              10 June 2020 22: 44
              Can you tell me systems capable of intercepting an apparatus traveling at a depth of one kilometer under water?

              The simplest offhand answer is deep bombs. lol
              1. +2
                10 June 2020 22: 48
                At a depth of 1 km under water? In the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? Or do you propose making a bomb belt in close proximity to coastal cities? laughing And how many such bombs do you need to intercept a relatively small device? Thousands? Millions? They are also distributed in a checkerboard pattern, and even at different depths ...
                1. -4
                  10 June 2020 23: 31
                  If you use one nuclear depth bomb, which is quite justified, then the error in determining the location of Poseidon can be 500 m or more.
                  1. +4
                    10 June 2020 23: 40
                    Winnie, the first thing that comes to your mind, you immediately rush to voice. Perhaps you are happy with any of your thoughts? smile

                    Quote: Winnie
                    If you use one nuclear depth bomb, which is justified ...
                    1. -3
                      10 June 2020 23: 50
                      This is just a standard submarine combat tactic. There is nothing new here. It is a pity that you did not know this. crying
                  2. +1
                    11 June 2020 08: 47
                    If you use one nuclear depth bomb

                    I don’t even want to comment on this wassat
                    1. -5
                      11 June 2020 16: 29
                      I don’t even want to comment on this

                      You mate. Take off your jacket!

                      laughing At your leisure, comment on the killing of millions of people with the help of Poseidon, women, the elderly, children. And, of course, the North American Indians, for whose rights we fought so widely. lol
                  3. 0
                    11 June 2020 15: 54
                    Smaller tsunamis, but few?
              2. +3
                10 June 2020 23: 53
                The simplest offhand answer is deep bombs

                Wrong answer.

                Depth bomb detonation is caused by a fuse that can fire: when a bomb hits a submarine’s hull; at a given depth; when passing a bomb at a distance from the submarine, not exceeding the radius of action of a non-contact fuse.

                Depth bombs are notable for their low accuracy, therefore, to destroy one submarine they require a significant amount, sometimes about a hundred bombs.

                For the correct answer, you still have an option - “call a friend”.
                Try it, maybe not everything is so hopeless yet?))
                1. -4
                  11 June 2020 16: 44
                  Wrong answer.

                  Suggest your answer.

                  Depth bombs are notable for their low accuracy, therefore, to destroy one submarine they require a significant amount, sometimes about a hundred bombs.

                  What is the problem? Aviation will flood Poseidon with any weapon, at least bombs, at least torpedoes. As much as necessary, so much will be. This is not the case to save.
                  Although for this it is quite "enough" a hell of a tablet, an anti-submarine missile with a nuclear warhead.
                  1. +2
                    11 June 2020 16: 55
                    What is the problem? Aviation will flood Poseidon with any weapon, at least bombs, at least torpedoes. As much as necessary, so much will be.

                    How correctly (not without a share of healthy humor), Mr. Kristallovich remarked:

                    Or do you propose making a bomb belt in close proximity to coastal cities?

                    Really funny)

                    Suggest your answer.

                    I don’t have it. Just like the Americans. So the toad strangles them.
                    1. -5
                      11 June 2020 19: 19
                      How correctly (not without a share of healthy humor), Mr. Kristallovich remarked:

                      Or do you propose making a bomb belt in close proximity to coastal cities?


                      When the head is empty, it is better to hide behind another. lol
                      Another pearl from the same series.

                      And how many such bombs do you need to intercept a relatively small device? Thousands? Millions? They are also distributed in a checkerboard pattern, and even at different depths ...

                      I goofing! laughing laughing laughing
                      "Chess order" and "different depths" generally finished me off. Not everyone can argue such nonsense. Not sailors! - Guessed Stirlitz. What in general can you seriously talk about with the victims of the Russian agitation industry? Amateurs who think they are "experts". lol
                      With the correct data issued by hydroacoustic, a single salvo of RBU is enough to destroy a submarine.
                      1. +4
                        11 June 2020 19: 44
                        Quote: Winnie
                        When the head is empty, it is better to hide behind another.

                        Winnie, you have a wealth of experience in dispute resolution. smile
                        Can you tell me where you are going to get the deep nuclear bombs?
                        1. -3
                          11 June 2020 21: 30
                          Can you tell me where you are going to get the deep nuclear bombs?

                          This is the standard armament of the fleets of nuclear countries.
                          Although, you are land ... How do you know?
                          What can you advise? Read more, study the mathematical part. Then it will be interesting to talk with you. In the meantime, your level does not even reach the average. lol hi
                      2. +1
                        11 June 2020 21: 40
                        I goofing!

                        Figs further. You do it best.
                        1. +1
                          11 June 2020 22: 10
                          This is the standard armament of the fleets of nuclear countries.

                          lol What an inventor you are ...
                        2. -3
                          12 June 2020 03: 44
                          What an inventor you are ...

                          The US military received its deep-sea atomic bomb in the 1950s.
                        3. +1
                          12 June 2020 09: 28
                          The US military received its deep-sea atomic bomb in the 1950s.

                          Received, of course. Yes, that's just such ammunition in the American army has been gone for several decades.
                        4. -2
                          14 June 2020 22: 37
                          Received, of course. Yes, that's just such ammunition in the American army has been gone for several decades.

                          So what? The RUR-5 ASROC with the nuclear warhead W44 (10 kt) was replaced by the RUM-139 VL-Asroc for use as a launcher for the universal Mk 41 fire-fighting facility. What is the problem? Rearrange warhead? They are interchangeable.
                        5. -3
                          11 June 2020 22: 39
                          Figs further. You do it best.

                          I'm just wallowing from this biased zoo.
                          Guys, well, if you don’t drag in technology, then it might be better to keep silent? Maybe then you’ll marry the smart ones. lol
                          And do not run ahead of the engine with your agitprom slogans lurking !!! and approve !!! They only create a sense of false security, far from reality. The enemy does not forgive!
                          And remember, not a single war of hatreds have yet been won! hi
                        6. +3
                          11 June 2020 22: 42
                          Quote: Winnie
                          Guys, well, if you don’t drag in technology, then it might be better to keep silent? Maybe then you’ll marry the smart ones.

                          Winnie, I wish you to find work in the USA. In Russia, your talents will not be appreciated. smile Good Luck!
          2. +1
            10 June 2020 23: 44
            The general principle of intercepting ANY high-speed targets is interception in oncoming courses. Nobody is going to chase them.

            And if the "Poseidon" lies on the path of some AUG and waits until it floats over it?
            1. -4
              11 June 2020 16: 54
              And if the "Poseidon" lies on the path of some AUG and waits until it floats over it?

              If Poseidon lies on the ground, then he will not get up. Again, where will it lie? Depends on how much to wait for AUG. If he lies at the pier near Belgorod, then he may not wait at all. lol
        2. +3
          11 June 2020 00: 33
          Interception of Poseidon is impossible today.

          Logically, as well as its application. wink
          But probably

          Poseidon could radically change the balance of power

          - exactly when it can. soldier
          So all sides still have time, some to finish their super-duper torpedo, and others to bungle a suitable "seine" for it or make a move with another piece.
          1. +3
            11 June 2020 01: 12
            So all sides still have time

            These are the keywords when they talk about the "balance of power."
            If we accept the appointment of strategic weapons as a deterrence factor, then such weapons (not just this torpedo) require the creation of some kind of counteraction to level the threat. And this is the time won.
            Time is without war.
            1. 0
              11 June 2020 22: 44
              ... requires the creation of some kind of counteraction to level the threat.
              .... Time is without war.

              Naturally, because our journalists have not yet learned what the other side may have done or is finishing, for example, in outer space. Yes, both on the water and under the water, too, not everything is so transparent with molded partners. The fact that they are not yet trumpeting from all the stands about some super-duper gadgets does not mean anything. It is even somewhat advantageous for them to take this position, they here act as a potential victim and are "forced" to take measures. The money for these measures will now definitely be allocated. So, there is something to do for both American businessmen and Russian capitalists, and there, after all, the Chinese, too, not far around the corner, are grinding their "knives". Such is the circulation of capital in the light of the globalization of financial flows, figure out who finances whom and what in the end. But something tells that a crow is a crow ... winked
              1. +2
                11 June 2020 23: 09
                ... the other side may have done or are completing, for example, in outer space. Yes, and on the water, and under water, too, not everything is so transparent with the sculpted partners

                Yes, they don’t have anything like that yet. If it were, they would have already applied.
                1. 0
                  11 June 2020 23: 39
                  If it were, they would have already applied.

                  We are not talking about this. You will not argue that as soon as Russia completes Poseidon, it will immediately apply it.
                  We are talking about deterring partners, a kind of game of cat and mouse, driving technological progress.
                  I wonder if Poseidon will also have a "civilian" version for any benefit to society, or if it's just an expensive bogeyman with no chance of peaceful use.
                  1. +3
                    12 June 2020 00: 22
                    You will not argue that as soon as Russia completes Poseidon, it will immediately apply it.

                    No, of course I won’t. After all, Russia has not yet hatched plans for delivering global disarming strikes against other states.
                    But the Americans - yes. And they don’t hide it. Therefore, give them today some very powerful weapons that Russia has no protection against, and they will use them without hesitation.

                    I wonder if Poseidon will also have a "civilian" version for any benefit to society.

                    Of course it will be. Even a Kalashnikov assault rifle can, for example, chop nuts.
                    1. 0
                      13 June 2020 00: 04
                      But the Americans - yes. And they don’t hide it.

                      There are many sayings: dogs bark, the wind carries, but the caravan moves on or "barking dogs don't bite" ....
                      If this did not happen under "Tsar" Boris, then now it is hardly possible. Business investment is too great.

                      A hunting carbine "Saiga Mk .223 Rem" was made of Kalashnikov

                      1. +3
                        13 June 2020 00: 18
                        Hunting carbine "Saiga Mk. 223 Rem"

                        I didn’t hold the Saigu in my hands, but I read that it was being done under the Kalash cartridge 7,62x39. This is tin. Although the 223rd is also already fighting.
                        So, it’s difficult to call such a thing completely “civilian”.
                        1. 0
                          13 June 2020 00: 40
                          I recall that the plant has a traditionally good and large selection of other hunting rifles of various calibers.
                          So, if you do not mind, we agree that the plant collecting Poseidons will probably build diving yachts with a nuclear motor, exclusively to order and for their own.
                        2. +4
                          13 June 2020 00: 50
                          So if you don't mind

                          - absolutely do not mind.
                          Another breaks me. I don’t understand why “Poseidon” should come up with some other purpose? This is a weapon of retaliation, as I understand it. No more, no less. If it ever comes to its application, then neither you nor I will care about such trifles. And it's better that you never have to use it.
                          Like, however, any other.
                        3. -2
                          14 June 2020 02: 19
                          What do you mean why? In order to optimize the cost and further commercialize the project. wink

                          This is a weapon of retaliation, as I understand it.

                          In general, there seemed to be some kind of parity and already dusty agreements.
                          And suddenly the weapon of "retaliation" emerged faster than "some very powerful weapon" for "delivering global disarming strikes."
                          Sounds like a direct call.
                          Is there enough breathing room to keep pace and position, or will we soon start again, to unilaterally show goodwill, cut planes, cut missiles and sell ships?
                        4. +3
                          14 June 2020 11: 09
                          there seemed to be some kind of parity and already dusty agreements

                          Oh here? Many, apparently, have already begun to forget how it began?

                          Putin, back in 2004, after the United States unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Defense (ABM) treaty, spoke of work on creating systems that could overcome this missile defense. But then nobody wanted to talk to Russia.

                          When presenting new types of weapons (including Poseidon), in 2018, Putin said these words:

                          ... Nobody listened to us, listen now ...

                          https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2018/03/02/752531-oruzhie-putin

                          And suddenly the weapon of "retaliation" emerged faster than "some very powerful weapon" for "delivering global disarming strikes."

                          The unilateral withdrawal of the Americans from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Defense (ABM) treaty, while simultaneously launching the deployment of these systems in eastern Europe, is a very important part of the plan for delivering a global disarming strike.
                          Russia's new weapons, if not completely, then at least partially neutralized this threat.
                          Partially, because after this, the Americans once again, in 2019, unilaterally, withdrew from the following treaty: Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles.

                          Well, where did you see the American challenge to Russia? It is the Americans who again impose an arms race.

                          Is there enough breathing room to keep pace and position?

                          As time has shown, the breathing system is normal. The pace is imposed. We will see.
                        5. 0
                          14 June 2020 17: 59
                          ... Americans are again imposing an arms race.

                          Undoubtedly. And not only Russia, but also Europeans. The Chinese and the Indians are on the heels, and the Chinese are keeping pace, have the necessary finances with resources and certain goals.

                          As time has shown ...

                          Time has shown that some seemingly advanced, respected Russian leaders can, with impunity, successfully surrender their positions and allies, no super torpedoes and missiles are needed for this.
                          In one thing you are right - "we will see", but in 30-40 years not earlier.
                        6. +1
                          14 June 2020 18: 05
                          Time has shown that ...

                          So far, time has shown that during this time (sorry for the tautology), the 3rd World War did not begin. And this is the main thing.

                          we will see ", but in 30-40 years, not earlier.

                          - and this is encouraging for the next 30-40 years "without war", which means "Poseidons & Co" justifies its purpose.
                        7. 0
                          14 June 2020 18: 31
                          World War 3 never started

                          The most convenient time was in the mid-nineties, no one would have sounded against the "hegemon" with the allies. BNE, most likely, would even help with his imperious words and deeds. But it seems that such a goal was not set.

                          means, "Poseidons & Co" justifies its purpose.

                          Maybe they can justify it when they appear in sufficient quantities.

                          30-40 years without war ...

                          30-40 years old, I had in mind social progress, the development of literacy and welfare of peoples.
                          Without war, of course.
                          Wars take place today on the economic, industrial and information battlefields. And the resources - capitalist double-headed eagles and hawks will be able to share without nuclear mushrooms.
                        8. +1
                          14 June 2020 20: 31
                          The most convenient time was in the mid-nineties, no one would have sounded against the "hegemon" with the allies. BNE, most likely, would even help with his imperious words and deeds. But it seems that such a goal was not set.

                          All clear. I heard your opinion.
                        9. 0
                          16 June 2020 00: 49
                          Yes, at BNU I would definitely not regret "Poseidon", he walked across the country worse than a tsunami.
                        10. +2
                          16 June 2020 01: 09
                          But it seems that this goal was not set.

                          It was put. It just seemed to the Americans that they would cope with “hybrid” methods: from financing the “Chechen wars”, ideological irritation of Russians through the NPO system, to financial enslavement of Russia .. in short, for a long time and reluctance to continue this topic, it has already been sufficiently disclosed over the years. .
                          In short, in a nutshell - if the EBN remained in power for a couple of years, the Americans would have succeeded.
                          Putin’s arrival radically changed the whole alignment. That's the whole story.
        3. -3
          12 June 2020 09: 26
          Quote: Kristallovich
          Interception of Poseidon is impossible today. Is that the strongest electromagnetic pulse. But where to get it? Moreover, if you take into account the dimensions of the device, it can easily carry a 50-megaton nuclear charge, and this is the total destruction of cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles. The United States, unlike Russia, has key and most populated cities on the coast. So yes, Poseidon is changing the alignment, not only at sea, but also in principle.

          Kristallovich, are you going to fight globally :? laughing To whom and what are you trying to explain? What powerful electromagnetic pulse is there? Still at the depths of normal.
      2. +1
        10 June 2020 20: 46
        Winnieyou reassure yourself all the time. smile

        Quote: Winnie
        As the Russian agitprom likes to wish out for reality! Simply put, hang noodles on your ears.
        1. -3
          10 June 2020 22: 26
          you reassure yourself all the time.

          And for what, in fact, should I worry?
          1. +3
            10 June 2020 22: 47
            Quote: Winnie
            Unlike suckers, ..., I'm a realist with a technical background.

            Does this mean that there are no suckers with a technical education? smile
            1. -2
              10 June 2020 23: 35
              Where did they get the quote from? Moreover incomplete.
          2. +1
            10 June 2020 23: 14
            Quote: Winnie
            And for what, in fact, should I worry?

            What does an ostrich stick out when it hides its head, you know? Marzhetsky Sergey once warned ... smile
            1. -2
              10 June 2020 23: 40
              Nah, I'm not worried about Marzhecki. lol
    5. -1
      10 June 2020 20: 28
      Not the fate of gays and blacks rule the world)))
    6. 0
      10 June 2020 20: 33
      Honestly. For me personally, it is not yet clear what exactly Poseidon can do and how exactly it is planned to be used ...
    7. +1
      10 June 2020 21: 14
      A lot of Jews and Muslims, and corrupt in Russia, and in the event of war, those in power will block the passage of signals, others will not fulfill the order or commit sabotage. I am sure that there will be no war. The Kremlin and the White House, the elite of managers simply fight for the throne under the Beast, like Europe, etc., they are competing ... What will happen to the rest of the people, these elites on the drum, they are fighting for their position in satanic power!
    8. +1
      11 June 2020 00: 50
      Aircraft carriers - yesterday. This is an extremely expensive mass grave ....
      1. +1
        11 June 2020 22: 49
        But submarines, such as or not expensive, or can not become a grave?
    9. -3
      11 June 2020 17: 15
      Strange weapon. As long as it reaches the goal, and the war ends, and there will be nothing to drown the tsunami.
      1. 0
        7 July 2020 11: 47
        There is nothing strange about this weapon. Such a drone enters the Sant Andreas Fault, lays down on the ground, turns off the engines and proceeds to combat duty. Given the nuclear nature of the apparatus, the duration of this duty is not limited by the time frame. Which means only one thing: at any second, an explosion is possible at the command of the Kremlin. The tectonic plates from the detonation wave are moved apart, and then returned to their place, squeezing a huge layer of water several tens of meters high and 1000 km long. In Japanese transcription, this phenomenon is called TSUNAMI.
        1. -1
          7 July 2020 12: 50
          You, in my opinion, have reviewed the products of the dream factory.
    10. +2
      12 June 2020 13: 14
      Who are you going to shoot at? In its partners, countries where the loot stolen in Russia is stored? And where are Russian bureaucrats at home, where wives and children live?