Elon Musk after the successful launch of Crew Dragon reminded Rogozin of the "trampoline"


In the evening of May 30, 2020, the American private company SpaceX launched the Falcon-9 launch vehicle with the manned reusable spacecraft Crew Dragon, which was successfully launched into Earth orbit and headed for the International Space Station. After that, the head of SpaceX, Elon Musk, reminded Dmitry Rogozin, head of the Roscosmos state corporation, about his words about the “trampoline” in 2014.


Trampoline works. This is a joke for the initiates.

- Musk said during a briefing dedicated to the sending of two American astronauts to the ISS.

So Musk reacted to the congratulations that were voiced by Russia on the successful launch. He recalled to Rogozin his statement that the Americans can deliver their astronauts to the ISS using a trampoline if they want to harm the space-rocket potential of Russia.


At the same time, the head of NASA, Jim Brydenstein, said that he had not talked with Rogozin yet, but confirmed that he had seen Russian congratulations on the launch.

They (Russia - ed.) Believe in cooperation and I think that it will continue to be strong

- noted Brydenstein.


We remind you that in the spring of 2014, when relations between the United States and Russia were complicated due to the situation in Ukraine, the Americans decided to remove the Russians from various international space-related programs. It was then that Rogozin, who worked as deputy prime minister of the Russian government, and uttered his phrase about the trampoline.
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  1. General Black Offline General Black
    General Black (Gennady) 31 May 2020 12: 04
    +5
    The mask is multifaceted.

  2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 May 2020 12: 28
    0
    What light suits, another century, both from science fiction films, like the interiors of the ship itself. Well done !!!
    1. mark1 Offline mark1
      mark1 31 May 2020 17: 36
      +1
      You do not like our spacesuits? So they are at least not heavier, and a hood in a capsule is better than a hard hat, what made you so excited? "Leibs?"
    2. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
      Rashid116 (Rashid) 31 May 2020 20: 07
      +2
      Entrust the journalist and the gorlopan with space, the same thing as the privatizer of nanotechnology ... Putin's multi-way))) So, hooray patriots?
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 31 May 2020 12: 34
    +1
    6 years giggling over Mask, but less and less .....
    And Rogozin ..... Rogozin will continue to receive only the salary of 6 experienced cosmonauts.
    Profit 600% + other Moscow VIP deputies ....
    For that kind of money, you can start, close, rename, and so on every year.
    1. General Black Offline General Black
      General Black (Gennady) 31 May 2020 15: 10
      +1
      The main thing is that they do not have a difference between takeoffs and landings.
    2. mark1 Offline mark1
      mark1 31 May 2020 17: 37
      0
      Cry, Yaroslavna, cry ... Scream!
  4. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 May 2020 12: 38
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    Go Musk! hi The design of the ship, yes everything, including spacesuits, class! good yes The launch and landing system itself is original and interesting. Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself no superfluous. Was it worth it? Although this is my opinion. And to whom it surrendered there. laughing

    They (Russia - ed.) Believe in cooperation and I think that it will continue to be strong

    It is interesting to read the ugly-marginals about this. lol Well, they’ll come up with this ...
    1. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 13: 16
      0
      Well, they’ll come up with this ...

      Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
      Musk simply did not have more time to delay the launch of the SpaceSih launch (after all, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. At what they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.
      1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
        Observer2014 31 May 2020 13: 25
        +1
        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        Well, they’ll come up with this ...

        Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the SpaceSix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
        Musk simply did not have more time to delay the launch of the SpaceSih launch (after all, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. At what they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

        Very well. All great achievements are a feat. Ours, when they paved the way into space, also played roulette with fate. It has always been and will be. Only the one who is lying on the sofa does everything go smoothly. But for people who are busy with business, failures are inevitable. Bring to mind. The only question is time. Well means, naturally. In this Mask, as in a chic alloy, everything is present. And a businessman. And the inventor. And the excitement. Everything is in him. To successfully use your system. So we see the result of his work.
        1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 13: 43
          +1
          Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics.

          SpaceX is a company that develops, including, Starship.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 13: 50
            -1
            Quote: Kristallovich
            Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics.

            SpaceX is a company that develops, including, Starship.

            So am I about the same.
            1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
              Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 13: 54
              0
              Not about the same. You say - "the ship was not so lucky as the company." That is illogical nonsense turns out. You probably wanted to say that "Starship is not so lucky as Crew Dragon."
              1. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 14: 28
                +1
                Quote: Kristallovich
                Not about the same. You say - "the ship was not so lucky as the company." That is illogical nonsense turns out. You probably wanted to say that "Starship is not so lucky as Crew Dragon."

                Well, you're right, I put it wrong. Yes, it’s about Falkon 9, but Crew Dragon, and they are technically different. You correctly noticed. This distorted the meaning of what I wrote, but not the essence.
                The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship fiasco, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still did not know the exact cause of the explosion, and a few hours were left before the start of the Dragon. Secondly:
                It was a question of defective “instantaneous response” connectors in the fuel supply system (which later was confirmed by the way!)
                The chief engine designer (SpaceX) Tom Muller was afraid to stop the Dragon launch, referring (in Tweet) to

                ..tense political and social situation in the USA ..

                https://mobile.twitter.com/lrocket/status/1266525605207502848
                The basis of my conclusions is taken from:

                https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.golem.de/news/spacex-vierter-starship-prototyp-explodiert-in-massivem-feuerball-2005-148818.amp.html
                1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                  Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 14: 32
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                  Yes, it’s about Falkon 9, and here is Crew Dragon, and they are technically different.

                  Once again you are not in the right place. The Falcon 9 is a launch vehicle, and the Crew Dragon is a spaceship.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 14: 48
                    0
                    Once again you are not in the right place. The Falcon 9 is a launch vehicle, and the Crew Dragon is a spaceship.

                    No, this time there) It's about the technical difference. The lower steps used by Falcone 9 are technically identical to the lower steps from the Starship (upper) and Super Heavy (lower) pair.
                    1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 16: 27
                      +1
                      Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

                      Super Heavy launch vehicles do not yet exist in nature. What kind of identity are you talking about? The first stage of this rocket will include three dozen engines. Falcon 9 is not even there!
                      1. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 17: 04
                        +1
                        Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

                        Super Heavy launch vehicles do not yet exist in nature. What kind of identity are you talking about? The first stage of this rocket will include three dozen engines. Falcon 9 is not even there!

                        Listen, Ruslan. I so did not want to argue with you on this subject, but for some reason you insisted)
                        Now carefully follow the course of my thoughts:

                        1) Falcon 9 has 9 “Merlin 1D” engines.

                        2) SpaceX is working on creating its own “Raptor” engine, which in the future will have to replace the “Merlin 1D” and “Kestrel” engines with which SoaceX is working today.

                        Got a connection?
                      2. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 17: 22
                        0
                        No, I do not catch
                      3. Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 18: 08
                        0
                        No, I do not catch

                        Well, okay. I wrote there:

                        Yes, there we are talking about Falkon 9, but here Crew Dragon, and they are technically different.

                        and he should have apparently: "Yes, there we are talking about engines identical to Merlin 1D, the same as on the Falkon 9, but here Crew Dragon, with Super Draco engines, and they are technically different."
                        If this is so important ..,
                        But the essence was different. See above.)
            2. Cyril Online Cyril
              Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 05: 27
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              The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship debacle, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
              .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still didn’t know the exact cause of the explosion, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

              Starship and Dragon are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failure tests of "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 07: 47
                0
                The bottom line is that after 4 in a row (out of 5 tests) the Starship fiasco, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                ... at the time of the latest Starship crash, “the exact cause of the explosion was still not clear, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

                Starship and Dragon are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failure tests of "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

                - I wrote at the very beginning of this dispute:

                The basis of my conclusions is taken from:

                https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.golem.de/news/spacex-vierter-starship-prototyp-explodiert-in-massivem-feuerball-2005-148818.amp.html

                Read and write your thoughts there.
                1. Cyril Online Cyril
                  Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 11: 27
                  -1
                  I can’t read, for some reason my link is blocked.

                  But there is no connection between Dragon and Starship, except that both projects are hosted by SpaceX. "Dragon" was developed under the control of NASA (and NASA really, really likes to play it safe), it uses another element base, which has already passed all the preliminary tests. Therefore, the unsuccessful tests of “Starship” in no way testify to the unreliability of the “Dragon”.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 11: 54
                    +2
                    As far as I know, the Raptor engine, which they plan to use in Starships, is still under development. In the meantime, both there and there they use Merlin 1D engines.
                    The explosion occurred due to a defect in the “instant connector” system of the fuel system (I haven’t read anything yet). Since the motors are identical, then the connector systems are identical.
                    Running the Dragon with the same systems immediately after the accident was a risk.
                    This was indirectly recognized by the SpaceX engine designer, but he was afraid to make an official statement about it before the start, citing “difficult situations” in the country. In any case, this was written by the German media.
                  2. Cyril Online Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 08
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                    As far as I know, the Raptor engine, which they plan to use in Starships, is still under development. In the meantime, both there and there they use Merlin 1D engines

                    No. Raptor engines have already been developed, and they are the ones that stand and are tested at Starships. Merlins are not used in this project. Even in tests are not used.

                    Again. "Dragons" are supervised by NASA, there no one would have allowed a ship with emergency engines to fly.
                  3. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 17
                    +1
                    No. Raptor engines have already been developed, and they are the ones that stand and are tested at Starships.

                    I have other information.
                  4. Cyril Online Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 22
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                    So you have an unreliable source. Starship was originally developed under the Raptor. This engine is completely different - it is methane and made according to the scheme with afterburning (closed cycle). And “Merlin” is kerosene and is made according to the open cycle scheme.
                  5. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 24
                    +1
                    So you have an unreliable source. Starship was originally developed under the Raptor.

                    Show reliable.
                  6. Cyril Online Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 26
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                    https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/

                    Quote:

                    The Raptor engine is a reusable methalox staged-combustion engine that powers the Starship launch system... Raptor engines began flight testing on the Starship prototype rockets in July 2019, becoming the first full-flow staged combustion rocket engine ever flown.
                  7. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 45
                    0
                    That's right. At Starhopper for now.
                  8. Cyril Online Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 13: 21
                    -1
                    Well, what does the "Dragon" then?))
        2. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 19
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          https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/07/spacex-resume-starhopper-tests/

          Here is the latest Raptor test. He has so far been tested only on the hopper.
        3. Cyril Online Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 24
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          here is the last raptor test. He was tested only on a hopper so far

          The raptors are tested on ALL Starship prototypes. Merlin is not there.
        4. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 25
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          The raptors are tested on ALL Starship prototypes. Merlin is not there.

          Show your source.
        5. Cyril Online Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 13: 22
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          SpaceX website))
      2. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 17: 14
        0
        Yes, I did. You are right, the Raptor exploded.
  • Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 07: 55
    +1
    Quote: Cyril
    The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship debacle, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
    .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still didn’t know the exact cause of the explosion, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

    Starship and Dragon are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failure tests of "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

    - something connected, I do not want to repeat, read above.
  • Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 09: 14
    +1
    Quote: Cyril
    Starship and Dragon are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failure tests of "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

    The engines are the same.
    1. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 10
      -1
      No, not the same. On the Starships there are methane Raptors with a closed-circuit scheme, on the Dragon - Draco on dimethylhydrazine (the ship itself), and Merlins (on the launch vehicle).
      1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 21
        +1
        No, not the same. On the Starships there are methane Raptors with a closed-loop circuit, on the Dragon there are Draco on dimethylhydrazine (the ship itself) and Merlins (on the launch vehicle).

        - it will be so.
      2. Cyril Online Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 27
        -2
        So what will be? The raptors will not stand either on the "Dragons" or on the "Falcons-9".
    2. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 22
      +1
      https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(Raketentriebwerk)

      This is for today.
    3. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 12: 28
      -2
      AND? Where does it say that the "Raptor" are used in the "Dragon" program?
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    5. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 12: 42
      +1
      AND? Where does it say that the "Raptor" are used in the "Dragon" program?

      No dragons, Starships.
    6. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 13: 23
      0
      That's it)) So where does the "Dragon" to the unsuccessful tests of the Starship here?)
  • Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 May 2020 18: 45
    -4
    Kristallovich What are you talking about?
  • Dear sofa expert. 31 May 2020 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    Well, they’ll come up with this ...

    Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
    Musk simply did not have more time for another delay in launching the Spaceihs launch (all the same, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. And they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

    Very well. All great achievements are a feat. Ours, when they paved the way into space, also played roulette with fate. It has always been and will be. Only the one who is lying on the sofa does everything go smoothly. But for people who are busy with business, failures are inevitable. Bring to mind. The only question is time.
    Well means, naturally. In this Mask, as in a chic alloy, everything is present. And a businessman. And the inventor. And the excitement. Everything is in him. To successfully use your system. Here and see the result of his work.

    Playing roulette with space is not worth it. Roulette is not even 50/50. This is 49/51 and this is a programmed loss.
    The only question is time. No, of course, if you want, you can offer yourself to Americans as a Squirrel (or at least Strelka)
    And then astronauts all the same are “goods worth their weight in gold”, but stupid ones are not a pity)
  • Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 May 2020 18: 43
    -3
    And they risked people for the sake of upholding

    - next nonsense and you are quite familiar ..
  • Cyril Online Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 05: 24
    -1
    Musk simply did not have more time left for another delay in launching the SpaceSihs launch.

    If they needed time, they would be given to NASA as much as needed.

    And they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

    Any space launch - even the new "Dragon", even the old "Union" - is always a risk. Technique, even proven, can always fail. Therefore, the American astronauts in this launch risked no more than our astronauts on the "Union".

    Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.

    This is sad, but testing of prototypes is then necessary to work out all the jambs on them. The main thing is that tests are carried out. Sooner or later, this will lead to the desired results.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 07: 58
      +1
      This is sad, but testing of prototypes is then necessary to work out all the jambs on them. The main thing is that tests are carried out. Sooner or later, this will lead to the desired results.

      Nobody argues with this, read the rest above.
  • Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
    Kristallovich (Ruslan) 31 May 2020 13: 47
    0
    The launch and landing system itself is original and interesting.

    Landing as landing ... On four parachutes ... What is the originality?

    Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself is no longer redundant. Was it worth it?

    Are you talking about the return first stage? Is it worth it? Well, how can I tell you ... Now you have a car for a million rubles, which, after 100 thousand km, you either throw it in the trash and go spend another million, or invest 200 thousand in overhaul and drive another 100 thousand km.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 05: 30
      +1
      Are you talking about the return first stage? Is it worth it? Well, how can I tell you ... Now you have a car for a million rubles, which, after 100 thousand km, you either throw it in the trash and go spend another million, or invest 200 thousand in overhaul and drive another 100 thousand km.

      If it weren’t, Musk wouldn’t use it.
  • Cyril Online Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 31 May 2020 16: 10
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    Was it worth it?

    It’s worth it, just use it.

    Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself is unnecessary

    Not too much.

    Well, they’ll come up with this ...

    They won’t come up with anything.
  • Dan Offline Dan
    Dan (Daniel) 31 May 2020 12: 45
    +4
    Extra confirmation that the language must be able to "revenge." Especially if you are noticeable on the media ... Although I must say that they also rode shuttles for some time ... Where are they today? So let's see ... A trouble-free rating has been developed over the years ...
    1. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 31 May 2020 16: 11
      -1
      Shuttles flew into orbit 135 times and took out more people and cargo than the “Unions” and “Progress” (spaceships) for the entire time of use.
  • King3214 Offline King3214
    King3214 (Sergius) 31 May 2020 13: 30
    0
    The Americans launched a rocket, for once, which they finally managed to make themselves.
    And then an "admired herd" came running.
    1. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 20: 46
      -1
      Rocket and manned ship. The missile was made in 4 years, the manned ship - in 6 years. Moreover, both this and that are multi-part.

      Let me remind you that in Russia the Angara rocket has been developed since 1995 (25 years), the manned Federation ship since 2009 (11 years). Of these, only the "Federation" is reusable. And neither one nor the other still does not fly.

      The Americans were able to, but ours is not asking.
      1. King3214 Offline King3214
        King3214 (Sergius) 2 June 2020 15: 37
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        All you wrote is an advertising booklet. The fact that one out of 4 missiles flew is a vivid confirmation of this.
        Wishlist seldom converge with reality.
        Admire the "Wishlist", ignoring reality, only very specific people.
        1. Cyril Online Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 2 June 2020 16: 05
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          The fact that one out of 4 missiles flew is a vivid confirmation of this.

          Of which 4 missiles flew 1?

          Wishlist seldom converge with reality.

          That you are right about the program of Roscosmos said. You can’t say better.

          Admire the "Wishlist", ignoring reality, only very specific people.

          I absolutely agree.

          The reality is:

          - SpaceX has robbed Russia of most of the commercial launch market.

          - SpaceX provided NASA independent access to orbit from Russia.

          - SpaceX created working reusable rockets and spacecraft.

          - SpaceX sequentially launches the satellites of their own global communications network.

          - SpaceX already has a super-heavy Falcon Heavy rocket.

          - SpaceX is actively developing a transportation system for flights to the moon and Mars.

          The one who denies all this is truly "especially gifted."
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 31 May 2020 15: 47
    -4
    - Here personally, I would be much more surprised and even glad ... -for people ...; if Musk; Roscosmos or any other space sharashka would advance in launching spaceships so much that they would use repeatedly the first stage of a rocket (often the Russian engine is on all), which is discarded and becomes just rubbish ... From the second stage everything is much more complicated ... - it breaks down great in dense layers of the atmosphere, etc ... - but the first stage still cannot be "tamed" in any way ... - And they still haven’t come up with anything ... - Well, they’re not trampolines catch falling ... in the end ...
  • Cyril Online Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 31 May 2020 16: 13
    0
    Musk, his team and NASA are great. Hard work was finally crowned with success.
  • cmonman Offline cmonman
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 31 May 2020 16: 16
    -5
    An interesting article in Gazeta.ru: “On your trampoline: Americans fly to the ISS.”
    In the article, the author writes:

    SpaceX and Elon Musk are a splinter in one place, it sewed and a thorn in the eye of Roscosmos, said Vadim Lukashevich, an early astronautics expert. Everyone remembers this remark of Rogozin about the trampoline. In fact, this is not just jealousy, it is a constant headache.

    On the eve of the launch of the Crew Dragon, Rogozin also made many political statements that could not but be noticed in the West. So, according to him, the flights of American astronauts on the Soyuz spacecraft all these years "restrained the Russian scientific program on the ISS."
    “We, naive, thought that we did not have science on the ISS, because for 15 years we could not launch the specialized module“ Science ”, stuffed with equipment to conduct our scientific research and experiments on the Russian segment of the ISS. And it turns out that for 9 years the Americans prevented us, whom we drove for a big fee at the Soyuz, beat us on the hands, preventing us from launching our Science on the Proton, ”said Lukashevich. - Dmitry Rogozin is right in one way - there is no our science on the ISS. All our other partners have completed their segments many years ago, equipping them with the necessary scientific equipment, and have long been engaged in science. ”

    I completely agree with Lukashevich - the successful launch of SpaceX is a constant jealousy, gradually turning into paranoia, which is already noticeable in the comments. To reduce the pain of those who are immune to other people's successes, I’ll say that the Russian missile is better than the Amer’s one, it’s all-weather. In addition, it reaches the ISS in a couple of hours, and Americans per day, which leads to overuse of diapers. In addition, in English. the language is 24 letters, and in Russian 33, so the names for missiles in Russia are much larger than in the United States.
  • aleksandrmakedo Offline aleksandrmakedo
    aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 31 May 2020 17: 08
    -1
    Quote: Cyril
    Shuttles flew into orbit 135 times and took out more people and cargo than the “Unions” and “Progress” (spaceships) for the entire time of use.



    Of course, and three times to the telescope, repair it. 2000 tons at the start and in orbit - a pair of pliers, a screwdriver and a printed circuit board for replacement. Fuckingly effective use. And 14 people in the cemetery, also a gold medal for the success of processing the living into the dead. If so successful, then why the hell did your idols cover up this madness?
    7 loafers in orbit, waiting in turn for a minute experiment. No energy. And a 10 day stay in space. Maximum. In the event of an accident, stay there, at the top until the next turn, at which there will be a flight over the landing site. And there are only two lanes around the globe. Wait two hours. There is no greater fanaticism, and, probably, it will not be anymore. Although, I'm wrong. Your idol is going to launch on Mars boobs who decided to go down in history. One way.
    1. Cyril Online Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 05: 37
      +1
      You take it ... Validolchik, otherwise the whole reddened.

      If so successful, then why the hell did your idols cover up this madness?

      Because the Shuttle was already 30 years old. The United States, unlike Russia, has money and they can afford a temporary break and the development of new ships. Russia constantly lacks money to create a “Federation”.

      Of course, and three times to the telescope, repair it. 2000 tons at launch and in orbit - a pair of pliers, a screwdriver and a printed circuit board for replacement.

      It’s immediately obvious what kind of “specialist” you are in astronautics. With a wrench and a screwdriver, only your head can be repaired. Although this will not help her. He even brought a tablet out of topic.
      1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 10: 23
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        You take it ... Validolchik, otherwise the whole reddened.

        And here is that rare case when I liked your answer (advice))
        This man is really sick (and not just on his head), do not anger him. The characteristic wrinkles on his face indicate serious heart problems.
        1. Cyril Online Cyril
          Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 18: 15
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          The characteristic wrinkles on his face indicate serious heart problems.

          I do not care what he has there with his heart. If he rushes to comment - let him be ready for the fact that he will be smeared.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 19: 02
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            I do not care what he has there with his heart. If he rushes to comment - let him be ready for the fact that he will be smeared.

            Yes, rude.
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              Cyril (Kirill) 1 June 2020 20: 09
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              Me?) Flattered, thanks)
              1. Dear sofa expert. 1 June 2020 20: 11
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                Me?) Flattered, thanks)

                Fine. It happens)
  • shadow Offline shadow
    shadow 31 May 2020 17: 49
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    6 years later)
  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 31 May 2020 21: 00
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    So it means what kind of trampoline.
  • Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 21 June 2020 14: 04
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    1999 year, the FALCON project hatches from the bowels of DARPA. Before the creation of SpaceX two more years.
    Elon Musk still does not know about his role as a cosmic genius. And the first launches of Falcon-1 were fully paid by DARPA

    https://mobile.twitter.com/soldier_moskva/status/1274525247648288769