Elon Musk after the successful launch of Crew Dragon reminded Rogozin of the "trampoline"

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In the evening of May 30, 2020, the American private company SpaceX launched the Falcon-9 launch vehicle with the manned reusable spacecraft Crew Dragon, which was successfully launched into Earth orbit and headed for the International Space Station. After that, the head of SpaceX, Elon Musk, reminded Dmitry Rogozin, head of the Roscosmos state corporation, about his words about the “trampoline” in 2014.

Trampoline works. This is a joke for the initiates.

- Musk said during a briefing dedicated to the sending of two American astronauts to the ISS.



So Musk reacted to the congratulations that were voiced by Russia on the successful launch. He recalled to Rogozin his statement that the Americans can deliver their astronauts to the ISS using a trampoline if they want to harm the space-rocket potential of Russia.


At the same time, the head of NASA, Jim Brydenstein, said that he had not talked with Rogozin yet, but confirmed that he had seen Russian congratulations on the launch.

They (Russia - ed.) Believe in cooperation and I think that it will continue to be strong

- noted Brydenstein.


We remind you that in the spring of 2014, when relations between the United States and Russia were complicated due to the situation in Ukraine, the Americans decided to remove the Russians from various international space-related programs. It was then that Rogozin, who worked as deputy prime minister of the Russian government, and uttered his phrase about the trampoline.
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    1. +5
      31 May 2020 12: 04
      The mask is multifaceted.

    2. 0
      31 May 2020 12: 28
      What light suits, another century, both from science fiction films, as well as the interiors of the ship itself. Well done !!!
      1. +1
        31 May 2020 17: 36
        Don't you like our spacesuits? So they are at least not heavier, and the hood in capsule conditions is better than a hard helmet, what turned you on? "Labs?"
      2. +2
        31 May 2020 20: 07
        Entrust the journalist and the gorlopan with space, the same thing as the privatizer of nanotechnology ... Putin's multi-way))) So, hooray patriots?
    3. +1
      31 May 2020 12: 34
      6 years giggling over Mask, but less and less .....
      And Rogozin ..... Rogozin will continue to receive only the salary of 6 experienced cosmonauts.
      Profit 600% + other Moscow VIP deputies ....
      For that kind of money, you can start, close, rename, and so on every year.
      1. +1
        31 May 2020 15: 10
        The main thing is that they do not have a difference between takeoffs and landings.
      2. 0
        31 May 2020 17: 37
        Cry, Yaroslavna, cry ... Scream!
    4. 0
      31 May 2020 12: 38
      Go Musk! hi The design of the ship, yes everything, including spacesuits, class! good Yes The launch and landing system itself is original and interesting. Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself No. superfluous. Was it worth it? Although this is my opinion. And to whom it surrendered there. laughing

      They (Russia - ed.) Believe in cooperation and I think that it will continue to be strong

      It is interesting to read the ugly-marginals about this. lol Well, they’ll come up with this ...
      1. 0
        31 May 2020 13: 16
        Well, they’ll come up with this ...

        Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
        Musk simply did not have more time to delay the launch of the SpaceSih launch (after all, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. At what they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.
        1. +1
          31 May 2020 13: 25
          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          Well, they’ll come up with this ...

          Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
          Musk simply did not have more time to delay the launch of the SpaceSih launch (after all, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. At what they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

          Very well. All great achievements are a feat. Ours, when they paved the way into space, also played roulette with fate. It has always been and will be. Only the one who is lying on the sofa does everything go smoothly. But for people who are busy with business, failures are inevitable. Bring to mind. The only question is time. Well means, naturally. In this Mask, as in a chic alloy, everything is present. And a businessman. And the inventor. And the excitement. Everything is in him. To successfully use your system. So we see the result of his work.
          1. +1
            31 May 2020 13: 43
            Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics.

            SpaceX is a company that develops, including, Starship.
            1. -1
              31 May 2020 13: 50
              Quote: Kristallovich
              Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics.

              SpaceX is a company that develops, including, Starship.

              So am I about the same.
              1. 0
                31 May 2020 13: 54
                Not about the same. You say - "the ship was not so lucky as the company." That is illogical nonsense turns out. You probably wanted to say that "Starship is not so lucky as Crew Dragon."
                1. +1
                  31 May 2020 14: 28
                  Quote: Kristallovich
                  Not about the same. You say - "the ship was not so lucky as the company." That is illogical nonsense turns out. You probably wanted to say that "Starship is not so lucky as Crew Dragon."

                  Well, you're right, I put it wrong. Yes, it’s about Falkon 9, but Crew Dragon, and they are technically different. You correctly noticed. This distorted the meaning of what I wrote, but not the essence.
                  The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship fiasco, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                  .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still did not know the exact cause of the explosion, and a few hours were left before the start of the Dragon. Secondly:
                  It was a question of defective “instantaneous response” connectors in the fuel supply system (which later was confirmed by the way!)
                  The chief engine designer (SpaceX) Tom Muller was afraid to stop the Dragon launch, referring (in Tweet) to

                  ..tense political and social situation in the USA ..

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/lrocket/status/1266525605207502848
                  The basis of my conclusions is taken from:

                  https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.golem.de/news/spacex-vierter-starship-prototyp-explodiert-in-massivem-feuerball-2005-148818.amp.html
                  1. 0
                    31 May 2020 14: 32
                    Yes, it’s about Falkon 9, and here is Crew Dragon, and they are technically different.

                    Once again you are not in the right place. The Falcon 9 is a launch vehicle, and the Crew Dragon is a spaceship.
                    1. 0
                      31 May 2020 14: 48
                      Once again you are not in the right place. The Falcon 9 is a launch vehicle, and the Crew Dragon is a spaceship.

                      No, this time there) It's about the technical difference. The lower steps used by Falcone 9 are technically identical to the lower steps from the Starship (upper) and Super Heavy (lower) pair.
                      1. +1
                        31 May 2020 16: 27
                        Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

                        Super Heavy launch vehicles do not yet exist in nature. What kind of identity are you talking about? The first stage of this rocket will include three dozen engines. Falcon 9 is not even there!
                        1. +1
                          31 May 2020 17: 04
                          Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...

                          Super Heavy launch vehicles do not yet exist in nature. What kind of identity are you talking about? The first stage of this rocket will include three dozen engines. Falcon 9 is not even there!

                          Listen, Ruslan. I so did not want to argue with you on this subject, but for some reason you insisted)
                          Now carefully follow the course of my thoughts:

                          1) Falcon 9 has 9 “Merlin 1D” engines.

                          2) SpaceX is working on creating its own “Raptor” engine, which in the future will have to replace the “Merlin 1D” and “Kestrel” engines with which SoaceX is working today.

                          Got a connection?
                        2. 0
                          31 May 2020 17: 22
                          No, I do not catch
                        3. 0
                          31 May 2020 18: 08
                          No, I do not catch

                          Well, okay. I wrote there:

                          Yes, there we are talking about Falkon 9, but here Crew Dragon, and they are technically different.

                          but apparently it should have been: "Yes, there we are talking about engines identical to the Merlin 1D, the same as on the Falkon 9, and here is the Crew Dragon, with Super Draco engines, but they are technically different."
                          If this is so important ..,
                          But the essence was different. See above.)
                  2. 0
                    1 June 2020 05: 27
                    The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship debacle, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                    .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still didn’t know the exact cause of the explosion, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

                    "Starship" and "Dragon" are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failed tests "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.
                    1. 0
                      1 June 2020 07: 47
                      The bottom line is that after 4 in a row (out of 5 tests) the Starship fiasco, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                      ... at the time of the latest Starship crash, “the exact cause of the explosion was still not clear, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

                      "Starship" and "Dragon" are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failed tests "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

                      - I wrote at the very beginning of this dispute:

                      The basis of my conclusions is taken from:

                      https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.golem.de/news/spacex-vierter-starship-prototyp-explodiert-in-massivem-feuerball-2005-148818.amp.html

                      Read and write your thoughts there.
                      1. -1
                        1 June 2020 11: 27
                        I can’t read, for some reason my link is blocked.

                        But there is no connection between Dragon and Starship, except that both projects are led by SpaceX. "Dragon" was developed under the supervision of NASA (and NASA very, very much likes to play it safe), it uses a different element base that has already passed all preliminary tests. Therefore, the failed tests of the Starship do not in any way indicate the unreliability of the Dragon.
                        1. +2
                          1 June 2020 11: 54
                          As far as I know, the Raptor engine, which they plan to use in Starships, is still under development. In the meantime, both there and there they use Merlin 1D engines.
                          The explosion occurred due to a defect in the “instant connector” system of the fuel system (I haven’t read anything yet). Since the motors are identical, then the connector systems are identical.
                          Running the Dragon with the same systems immediately after the accident was a risk.
                          This was indirectly recognized by the SpaceX engine designer, but he was afraid to make an official statement about it before the start, citing “difficult situations” in the country. In any case, this was written by the German media.
                        2. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 08
                          As far as I know, the Raptor engine, which they plan to use in Starships, is still under development. In the meantime, both there and there they use Merlin 1D engines

                          No. The Raptor engines have already been developed, and they are the ones that are being tested at Starships. Merlins are not used in this project. Not even used in tests.

                          Again. "Dragons" are supervised by NASA, no one there would have allowed a spacecraft with emergency engines to fly.
                        3. +1
                          1 June 2020 12: 17
                          No. The Raptor engines have already been developed, and they are the ones that are being tested at Starships.

                          I have other information.
                        4. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 22
                          This means you have an unreliable source. Starship was originally developed for Raptor. This engine is completely different - it is methane and is made according to the afterburning scheme (closed cycle). And "Merlin" is kerosene and is made according to the open circuit scheme.
                        5. +1
                          1 June 2020 12: 24
                          This means you have an unreliable source. Starship was originally developed for Raptor.

                          Show reliable.
                        6. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 26
                          https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/

                          Quote:

                          The Raptor engine is a reusable methalox staged-combustion engine that powers the Starship launch system... Raptor engines began flight testing on the Starship prototype rockets in July 2019, becoming the first full-flow staged combustion rocket engine ever flown.
                        7. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 45
                          That's right. At Starhopper for now.
                        8. -1
                          1 June 2020 13: 21
                          Well, what does "Dragon" have to do with it then?))
                        9. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 19
                          https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/07/spacex-resume-starhopper-tests/

                          Here is the latest Raptor test. He has so far been tested only on the hopper.
                        10. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 24
                          here is the last raptor test. He was tested only on a hopper so far

                          Raptors are tested on ALL Starship prototypes. "Merlin" is not there.
                        11. 0
                          1 June 2020 12: 25
                          Raptors are tested on ALL Starship prototypes. "Merlin" is not there.

                          Show your source.
                        12. 0
                          1 June 2020 13: 22
                          SpaceX website))
                        13. 0
                          1 June 2020 17: 14
                          Yes, I did. You are right, the Raptor exploded.
                    2. +1
                      1 June 2020 07: 55
                      Quote: Cyril
                      The bottom line is that after 4 consecutive (out of 5 tests) the Starship debacle, launching the Dragon was a huge risk for the Americans, because, firstly:
                      .. at the time of the latest Starship crash “they still didn’t know the exact cause of the explosion, and there were only a few hours left before the start of the Dragon.

                      "Starship" and "Dragon" are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failed tests "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

                      - something connected, I do not want to repeat, read above.
                    3. +1
                      1 June 2020 09: 14
                      Quote: Cyril
                      "Starship" and "Dragon" are absolutely two different and unrelated projects. Failed tests "Starship" on the accident rate of "Dragon" does not affect.

                      The engines are the same.
                      1. -1
                        1 June 2020 12: 10
                        No, not the same. On the Starships there are methane Raptors with a closed cycle scheme, on the Dragon there are Draco on dimethylhydrazine (the ship itself), and Merlin (on a launch vehicle).
                        1. +1
                          1 June 2020 12: 21
                          No, not the same. On the Starships there are methane Raptors with a closed cycle scheme, on the Dragon there are Draco on dimethylhydrazine (the ship itself) and the Merlin (on a launch vehicle).

                          - it will be so.
                        2. -2
                          1 June 2020 12: 27
                          So what will happen? Raptors will not stand on either Dragons or Falcon 9s.
                        3. +1
                          1 June 2020 12: 22
                          https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_(Raketentriebwerk)

                          This is for today.
                        4. -2
                          1 June 2020 12: 28
                          AND? Where does it say the Raptors are used in the Dragon program?
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                        6. +1
                          1 June 2020 12: 42
                          AND? Where does it say the Raptors are used in the Dragon program?

                          No dragons, Starships.
                        7. 0
                          1 June 2020 13: 23
                          That's it)) So where does "Dragon" have to do with unsuccessful tests of "Starship"?)
            2. -4
              31 May 2020 18: 45
              Kristallovich What are you talking about?
          2. +1
            31 May 2020 13: 57
            Quote: Observer2014
            Quote: Dear couch expert.
            Well, they’ll come up with this ...

            Well, Starship was not so lucky as Spaceics. Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.
            Musk simply did not have more time for another delay in launching the Spaceihs launch (all the same, the “honor of upholding the trampoline” was at stake) and the Americans took a chance. And they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

            Very well. All great achievements are a feat. Ours, when they paved the way into space, also played roulette with fate. It has always been and will be. Only the one who is lying on the sofa does everything go smoothly. But for people who are busy with business, failures are inevitable. Bring to mind. The only question is time.
            Well means, naturally. In this Mask, as in a chic alloy, everything is present. And a businessman. And the inventor. And the excitement. Everything is in him. To successfully use your system. Here and see the result of his work.

            Playing roulette with space is not worth it. Roulette is not even 50/50. This is 49/51 and this is a programmed loss.
            The only question is time. No, of course, if you want, you can offer yourself to Americans as a Squirrel (or at least Strelka)
            And then astronauts all the same are “goods worth their weight in gold”, but stupid ones are not a pity)
        2. -3
          31 May 2020 18: 43
          And they risked people for the sake of upholding

          - next nonsense and you are quite familiar ..
        3. -1
          1 June 2020 05: 24
          Musk simply did not have more time left for another delay in launching the SpaceSihs launch.

          If they needed time, they would be given to NASA as much as needed.

          And they risked people for the sake of defending the show off.

          Any space launch - even the new Dragon or the old Soyuz - is always a risk. Technique, even proven, can always fail. Therefore, the American astronauts in this launch risked no more than our cosmonauts on the Soyuz.

          Just a few hours before the launch of the Spaceix, the fourth prototype of the Starship crashed again. Exploded at the start.

          This is sad, but testing of prototypes is then necessary to work out all the jambs on them. The main thing is that tests are carried out. Sooner or later, this will lead to the desired results.
          1. +1
            1 June 2020 07: 58
            This is sad, but testing of prototypes is then necessary to work out all the jambs on them. The main thing is that tests are carried out. Sooner or later, this will lead to the desired results.

            Nobody argues with this, read the rest above.
      2. 0
        31 May 2020 13: 47
        The launch and landing system itself is original and interesting.

        Landing as landing ... On four parachutes ... What is the originality?

        Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself is no longer redundant. Was it worth it?

        Are you talking about the return first stage? Is it worth it? Well, how can I tell you ... Now you have a car for a million rubles, which, after 100 thousand km, you either throw it in the trash and go spend another million, or invest 200 thousand in overhaul and drive another 100 thousand km.
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. +1
          1 June 2020 05: 30
          Are you talking about the return first stage? Is it worth it? Well, how can I tell you ... Now you have a car for a million rubles, which, after 100 thousand km, you either throw it in the trash and go spend another million, or invest 200 thousand in overhaul and drive another 100 thousand km.

          If it weren’t, Musk wouldn’t use it.
      3. 0
        31 May 2020 16: 10
        Was it worth it?

        It’s worth it, just use it.

        Although the landing system of the carrier rocket itself is unnecessary

        Not too much.

        Well, they’ll come up with this ...

        They won’t come up with anything.
    5. +4
      31 May 2020 12: 45
      Another confirmation of the fact that the language must be able to "revenge". Especially if you are visible on the media ... Although I must say that shuttles have been traveling for some time ... Where are they today? So we'll take a look ... Accident-free rating has been developed over the years ...
      1. -1
        31 May 2020 16: 11
        The shuttles have flown into orbit 135 times and have taken out more people and cargo than Soyuz and Progress (spacecraft) during their entire period of use.
    6. 0
      31 May 2020 13: 30
      The Americans launched a rocket, for once, which they finally managed to make themselves.
      And then the "delighted herd" came running.
      1. -1
        1 June 2020 20: 46
        Rocket and manned ship. The missile was made in 4 years, the manned ship - in 6 years. Moreover, both this and that are multi-part.

        Let me remind you that the Angara missile has been developed in Russia since 1995 (25 years), the Federation manned spacecraft - since 2009 (11 years). Of these, only the "Federation" is reusable. And neither one nor the other still does not fly.

        The Americans were able to, but ours is not asking.
        1. 0
          2 June 2020 15: 37
          All you wrote is an advertising booklet. The fact that one out of 4 missiles flew is a vivid confirmation of this.
          "Wishlist" rarely converge with reality.
          Admire "Wishlist", ignoring reality, only very specific people.
          1. -2
            2 June 2020 16: 05
            The fact that one out of 4 missiles flew is a vivid confirmation of this.

            Of which 4 missiles flew 1?

            "Wishlist" rarely converge with reality.

            That you are right about the program of Roscosmos said. You can’t say better.

            Admire "Wishlist", ignoring reality, only very specific people.

            I absolutely agree.

            The reality is:

            - SpaceX has robbed Russia of most of the commercial launch market.

            - SpaceX provided NASA independent access to orbit from Russia.

            - SpaceX created working reusable rockets and spacecraft.

            - SpaceX sequentially launches the satellites of their own global communications network.

            - SpaceX already has a super-heavy Falcon Heavy rocket.

            - SpaceX is actively developing a transportation system for flights to the moon and Mars.

            Anyone who denies all of this is truly "especially gifted."
    7. -4
      31 May 2020 15: 47
      - Personally, I would be much more surprised and even happy ... - for the little people ...; if Musk; Roskosmos or any other space sharashka would have advanced in launching spacecraft so much that they would use the first stage of the rocket (often all of them have a Russian engine), which is thrown away and becomes just rubbish ... From the second stage, everything is much more complicated ... - it collapses great in dense layers of the atmosphere, etc ... - but they still can't "tame" the first stage ... - And so far nothing has been invented ... - Well, not with trampolines to catch the falling ... in the end ...
    8. 0
      31 May 2020 16: 13
      Musk, his team and NASA are great. Hard work was finally crowned with success.
    9. -5
      31 May 2020 16: 16
      An interesting article in Gazeta.ru: “On your trampoline: Americans fly to the ISS.”
      In the article, the author writes:

      SpaceX and Elon Musk are a splinter in one place, it sewed and a thorn in the eye of Roscosmos, said Vadim Lukashevich, an early astronautics expert. Everyone remembers this remark of Rogozin about the trampoline. In fact, this is not just jealousy, it is a constant headache.

      On the eve of the launch of the Crew Dragon, Rogozin also made many political statements that could not but be noticed in the West. So, according to him, the flights of American astronauts on the Soyuz spacecraft all these years "restrained the Russian scientific program on the ISS."
      “We, naive, thought that we did not have science on the ISS, because for 15 years we could not launch the specialized module“ Science ”, stuffed with equipment to conduct our scientific research and experiments on the Russian segment of the ISS. And it turns out that for 9 years the Americans prevented us, whom we drove for a big fee at the Soyuz, beat us on the hands, preventing us from launching our Science on the Proton, ”said Lukashevich. - Dmitry Rogozin is right in one way - there is no our science on the ISS. All our other partners have completed their segments many years ago, equipping them with the necessary scientific equipment, and have long been engaged in science. ”

      I completely agree with Lukashevich - the successful launch of SpaceX is a constant jealousy, gradually turning into paranoia, which is already noticeable in the comments. To reduce the pain of those who are immune to other people's successes, I’ll say that the Russian missile is better than the Amer’s one, it is all-weather. In addition, it flies to the ISS in a couple of hours, and the Americans in a day, which leads to overspending of diapers. In addition, in English. the language is 24 letters, and in Russian 33, so the names for missiles in Russia are much larger than in the United States.
    10. -1
      31 May 2020 17: 08
      Quote: Cyril
      The shuttles have flown into orbit 135 times and have taken out more people and cargo than Soyuz and Progress (spacecraft) during their entire period of use.



      Of course, and three times to the telescope, repair it. 2000 tons at the start and in orbit - a pair of pliers, a screwdriver and a printed circuit board for replacement. Fuckingly effective use. And 14 people in the cemetery, also a gold medal for the success of processing the living into the dead. If so successful, then why the hell did your idols cover up this madness?
      7 loafers in orbit, waiting in turn for a minute experiment. No energy. And a 10 day stay in space. Maximum. In the event of an accident, stay there, at the top until the next turn, on which there will be a flight over the landing site. And there are only two bands across the globe. Wait two hours. There is no greater fanaticism, and, probably, it will not be anymore. Although, I'm wrong. Your idol is going to launch on Mars boobs who decided to go down in history. One way.
      1. +1
        1 June 2020 05: 37
        You take it ... Validolchik, otherwise the whole reddened.

        If so successful, then why the hell did your idols cover up this madness?

        Because the Shuttles were already 30 years old. The United States, unlike Russia, has money and can afford a temporary hiatus and the development of new ships. Russia constantly does not have enough money to create the Federation.

        Of course, and three times to the telescope, repair it. 2000 tons at launch and in orbit - a pair of pliers, a screwdriver and a printed circuit board for replacement.

        It is immediately obvious what kind of "specialist" you are in astronautics. With a wrench and a screwdriver, just repair your head. It won't help her though. I even brought the plate out of topic.
        1. 0
          1 June 2020 10: 23
          You take it ... Validolchik, otherwise the whole reddened.

          And here is that rare case when I liked your answer (advice))
          This man is really sick (and not just on his head), do not anger him. The characteristic wrinkles on his face indicate serious heart problems.
          1. -1
            1 June 2020 18: 15
            The characteristic wrinkles on his face indicate serious heart problems.

            I do not care what he has there with his heart. If he rushes to comment - let him be ready for the fact that he will be smeared.
            1. +1
              1 June 2020 19: 02
              I do not care what he has there with his heart. If he rushes to comment - let him be ready for the fact that he will be smeared.

              Yes, rude.
              1. -1
                1 June 2020 20: 09
                Me?) Flattered, thanks)
                1. 0
                  1 June 2020 20: 11
                  Me?) Flattered, thanks)

                  Fine. It happens)
    11. 0
      31 May 2020 17: 49
      6 years later)
    12. +2
      31 May 2020 21: 00
      So it means what kind of trampoline.
    13. +2
      21 June 2020 14: 04
      1999 year, the FALCON project hatches from the bowels of DARPA. Before the creation of SpaceX two more years.
      Elon Musk still does not know about his role as a cosmic genius. And the first launches of Falcon-1 were fully paid by DARPA

      https://mobile.twitter.com/soldier_moskva/status/1274525247648288769