Defense Express: Russians managed to clone Ukrainian gas turbine installation

30 May 2020 15

The Russians managed to clone a Ukrainian gas turbine unit for their new frigate, writes the Kiev edition of Defense Express.

On May 22, 2020, the third frigate of project 22350 Admiral Golovko was launched at the Severnaya Verf shipyard in St. Petersburg. Due to the “aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine”, the ship’s hull stood on the slipway for 8 years instead of 2 years, because the supply of diesel gas-turbine units (DGTA) M55R to the Ukrainian GPK Zorya-Mashproekt was stopped.

At the same time, Russian media reported that the ship is fully equipped with a domestic power unit. After that, doubts arose that the ship generally received a power plant, and on the other hand, there were suspicions that the Russians simply copied the Ukrainian power unit, some of which components were manufactured in Russia.

The thing is that in 1993 the GP NPKG Zorya-Mashproekt created a joint venture with the Russians - CJSC Turborus (Rybinsk). From the Russian side, NPO Saturn (Rybinsk), FSUE NPO Aurora (St. Petersburg) and 000 Turbokon (Moscow) participated in it. The joint venture was engaged in the development, supply, repair and maintenance of marine gas turbine engines and gas turbine engines based on them for the Russian Navy.

In 2013, the Zorya-Mashproekt GPKPG sent two M55P power units to Russia for the Admiral Kasatonov and Admiral Gorshkov frigates. The kit for the Admiral Golovko frigate was also made, but its dispatch was canceled due to the termination of the military-technical cooperation.

At the same time, Russian counterparts (clones) called M90FR cannot yet be called fully serial. They are made in pieces and have not been tested in ship's conditions. So to talk about their reliability, and even higher efficiency, is not necessary. Dozens of such power units should appear that will be tested on real ships. But it will not be soon, the establishment of mass production is unlikely, and unit production will be expensive.

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beeper

+16

30 May 2020 19: 39

In pink, the Russian gas turbine engine (pictured) looks even more beautiful than its Ukrainian forerunners, which I have ever seen!
I hope that the Russian-made power plants will work just as reliably and the frigates equipped with them will be able to leave the slipways without delay!
Seven feet under the keel!

Remaining unemployed, because of the insane anti-state policy of the "Maidan authorities", many of our turbine construction specialists moved to work in Rybinsk and Leningrad.
Many thanks to the Russian authorities and ordinary Russians for their help and a warm welcome, for not leaving our workers and engineers in trouble, who were viciously and cynically left "by their" authorities without a livelihood!
1. rotkiv04
  
  +4
  
  31 May 2020 08: 24
  
  I support + 100500%.
2. Peter Rusin
  
  +3
  
  31 May 2020 12: 05
  
  Correctly written! I support! It’s a paradox, but in Ukraine, each new President is worse than the previous one and he omits Ukraine even worse !!
3. Sergey Pedenko
  
  +2
  
  1 June 2020 13: 09
  
  Thanks for the kind words!
bear040

+4

30 May 2020 21: 12

Judging by the fact that Ukrainian turbines were burning and had to be sent for repair and modernization, domestic turbines will be more reliable both in design, materials and build quality ... I remember the Ukrainian clone VAZ-2110, which was released under the Bogdan brand , also showed poor performance, especially in terms of the strength of the body, where Ukraine did 1 welding point, instead of 4 points accepted in the Russian Federation at the same distance.
oracul

+6

31 May 2020 08: 01

Do not overestimate the capabilities of the GP NPKG Zorya-Mashproekt. Everything that was created in Ukraine was the result of close cooperation in Soviet times. After the collapse, Ukraine tried to use the advantage that they had. And we do not clone and do not copy, but we refine what we need.
1. beeper
  
  +3
  
  31 May 2020 09: 27
  
  Well, these are only people far from the Soviet and post-Soviet "defense" (and even more so, anti-Soviet-anti-Russian biased "maydauns" from the amerocolonial "Kiev edition" ) can "with a blue eye" and "foaming at the mouth" assert that supposedly in the post-Belavezha region (with a loyal report of three drunken Judah-comenegates to their overseas "Sahib" -Bush Sr.) "Ukraine was something independently created from worthy weapons or military equipment!
  After all, it is enough to see how the production of the same ship turbines, tanks, missiles, aircraft and aircraft engines, measuring instruments and electrical equipment, automobiles and road construction equipment, special steels and armor was degraded and destroyed in a quasi "independent" production. .. yes, whatever you take. Not to mention science and education, the mass destruction of not only defense research institutes and design bureaus!
  It's just that after the anti-popular-anti-state "Maidan" coup d'etat, under the occupation "administration" imposed by Washington, the hypocritical masks of latent Russophobia and anti-Russianism "Ukraine is not Russia" were finally thrown off and the "Ukrainian" Bandera kleptoragulyo, "at once" with the "J / Bandera" kleptoraklomera and other marginal "Svidomo", "under the guise of" the bloody civil strife unleashed by them, already completely "shamelessly" and "rat-like" eagerly pounced on the remnants of our nationwide richest Soviet heritage, in order to finally pull them apart into their overcordon elite "Shevchenki" and yachtynki yachts. ..
  And all kinds of "Kiev publications" are just the local "agitprop" of the Fashington Goebbelsuh, "disinformation coverage" of the amerocolonial "regime" - they "sing" from someone else's voice (even the lexicon gives them away!) And they have no faith - "in their deeds "!
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Alexander shekhtman

+5

31 May 2020 10: 04

Helicopter engines have gone the same way, becoming the next generation of engines with leading characteristics.
Russia will achieve all of its goals already because it is its engines and its technologies that accidentally find themselves outside the borders of Great Russia. Ukraine has yet to change its borders, statehood and behavior. Russia will not tolerate such a neighbor. Wait for the Lyuli.
Dust

+1

31 May 2020 11: 25

serial production is unlikely, and unit production will be expensive.

This is a tantrum! They are well aware that for Russia to establish mass production, with its capacities, this is an easily solved task!)
kondratovaliaksandr

+1

31 May 2020 12: 47

It is interesting to read what people who do not know the real state of affairs in production write.
Alexander D

0

31 May 2020 18: 00

The Russians managed to clone the Russian turbine.
1. Bitter
  
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  31 May 2020 18: 19
  
  Not to Russians, but to Russians, and not Russian, but Soviet.
  Ukrainians, in the light of the events of recent decades, were simply no longer needed. Gradually the last connecting links remaining from the Soviet infrastructures are falling apart. Sorry.
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

+1

31 May 2020 22: 50

The Ukrainians themselves are runaway and assembled the device in St. Petersburg!
michael

-1

1 June 2020 10: 43

Yes, the level of cloning has dropped - the atomic bomb, advanced aircraft, etc. were cloned before. for the USA, so soon we will clone Africa.
buran5810

+1

3 June 2020 22: 32

I will never believe that Russian engineers, who created engines for the H-1 rocket more than half a century ago, and according to the assurances of amers from NASA, even now they cannot reach the level of these engines, even from a running start, cannot create a worthy GTE for the ship. They can, but these ships are not conveyor "grants" or "viburnum". This is a piece goods, hence the GTE too. And all sorts of scribblers no longer know how to bite, or at least pinch Russia. Yes, the Ukrainian engineers, left without work, left for Russia, and the Ukrainian authorities, if they continue to fuck themselves in harem pants, will soon be feeding someone else's army.