Critical situation with water in Crimea pushes Russia to force scenario


Socialeconomic, environmental and humanitarian problems that developed in the Crimea after the cessation of its water supply by Ukraine, may cause the outbreak of hostilities by Russia. In any case, some Ukrainian experts, as well as analysts of the notorious The Jamestown Foundation, whose activities are recognized as undesirable in our country, say so.


What is it, an attempt to pit two countries, or is it just a statement of an unsightly fact?

We are already detailing the critical situation on the peninsula told earlier. After the transition of Crimea to the Russian Federation, Kiev took revenge on its former compatriots by cutting off water supplies through the Severokrymsky Canal. This dealt a serious blow to the agriculture of the region. Unfortunately, over the past six years, the problem of water supply has not been fundamentally resolved. Instead of building a pipeline from the territory of the Kuban or powerful desalination plants that successfully operate, for example, in dry Israel, the authorities chose to do without digging artesian wells, which leads to soil salinization and their subsequent infertility.

Infinitely, such a situation could not go without consequences. In 2018, a real environmental disaster occurred in the north of the peninsula in the city of Armyansk: due to the shortage of water in the acid storage tanks of the Titan enterprise, poisonous vapors of production waste began to enter the atmosphere, which led to serious consequences. Today, two years later, the problems have become much more serious. Due to the abnormal snowless winter, a shortage of reserves in the reservoirs formed on the peninsula: some are completely dry, others are one-third full. The water supply is now normalized in some places, local authorities seriously pray to heaven for rain.

Even worse, the coronavirus pandemic, more precisely, the ambiguous methods of dealing with it, was added to these problems. The head of the republic is in no hurry to begin the holiday season, which will become a painful blow to the pockets of Crimeans, who traditionally live off tourism. All the prerequisites have been created so that until recently the region most loyal to the Kremlin will become the most tense for it, about which we also detail told. Glen Howard, president of the aforementioned The Jamestown Foundation, after reuniting Crimea with Russia, said:

About 260 thousand Crimean Tatars - with a three millionth diaspora in Turkey - can become a real problem for Moscow. And, it seems to me, Russia will soon realize that it has more problems in Crimea than it believes. Although they are celebrating in the Kremlin, from the point of view of economics and security they have driven themselves into a trap.

I would like to dwell on this statement in more detail. First of all, you need to understand what The Jamestown Foundation is. This is an extremely Russophobic organization created under the patronage of the CIA to work with defectors and other traitors from the USSR. Her analysts continue to keep abreast of domestic events, their publications are used by American politicians as a guide to action. A month ago, this fund was recognized in Russia non-grata. In general, these are enemies who do not wish us good, but that is why their assessments should at least be heeded.

By and large, there is no other way than a power one to solve the water supply problem in Crimea. A whole range of problems has been accumulated on the peninsula that are not really being addressed. Over the past six years, it was possible to build powerful desalination plants. For example, little Israel managed to do without even nuclear energy when creating its own desalination plants, which turned it into a “water superpower” in part of these of technologies. Now, for many years of red tape on the peninsula, reckoning will come in the form of an increase in socio-economic and political tension, as our enemies directly spoke of.

Legally, the actions of Kiev to stop the water supply to the Crimea fall under the definition of genocide: “the deliberate creation of living conditions designed for the complete or partial physical destruction of a national group” living on the peninsula. This is an international crime, which can be considered a sufficient reason for declaring war on Ukraine. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in this case will have to ensure the control of the infrastructure necessary to ensure water supply to Crimeans. At a minimum, it would also be desirable to ensure land connectivity with the rest of Russia. We won’t even stutter about going to Kiev. Those who want to indulge in “Russian aggression” in righteous anger should recall the actions of all of the same Israel in the Golan Heights, Turkey - in northern Cyprus and in Syrian Idlib, etc.

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  1. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 27 May 2020 11: 32
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    Well, firstly, the former citizens of the Ottoman Empire living in Crimea have a very, very distant relation to the Tatars. These are not Tatars, but Crimean Turks, the same as those living in Abkhazia. Do not believe me, go to Abkhazia, Crimea and Kazan and you will understand the difference, it is huge ... These are completely different people ... Tatars are only in Kazan and only Kazan ... Secondly, the Russian Federation is high time to respond with its former subject blocking the Russian rivers flowing into the Bandera Dnieper, especially since the Russian Federation itself does not have enough water in the Don and Volga, and to supply Ukraine hostile to the Russian Federation for free with water is enormous stupidity and inadmissible luxury !!!! It's time to use force, not boltology !!!
    1. Vasily Klimenko Offline
      Vasily Klimenko (Vasily Klimenko) 28 May 2020 02: 39
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      There is a good saying: measure seven times, cut once! Russia resembles a woman who became pregnant, flew undesirably, and doesn’t apply anything - and then she’ll resolve. Even at the beginning of the situation, I proposed in response to the closure of the channel, to shut off gas to Europe. When there were no alternative suppliers yet. Our selfish interests prevailed. And now Europe can do without our gas. When Khrushchev hung on the budget a ravaged Crimea, deserted, the Tatars were evicted, the Tatars evicted the rest of the population, and Ukraine was pulling the Crimea at the expense of its budget, in Russia there was not the slightest desire to help Ukraine pull the Crimea. I repeat once again, Khrushchev did not give Crimea to Ukraine, but hung it on the Ukrainian budget, Crimea through all channels was tied to Ukraine. We solved the problem of Sevastopol sailors tied to Russia, presented Putin with the much-desired Foros, the residence of the rulers of the USSR, the beloved brainchild of Gorbachev, especially Raisa Maximovna, she was the main architect of the cool redevelopment. They built the day; after the inspection, Raisa Maksimovna dismantled the night, and so on repeatedly. We bought Crimeans with our pensions, salaries, and the Sevastopol garrison, without bothering to calculate the rest. Severokrymsky Canal, an artificial structure, the property of Ukraine, is not a natural source of water. How many rivers flow into the Black Sea on the eastern shore, push the tankers and collect, but no one scratched anywhere. They dismissed the water problem, forgetting it, and without water it was neither tuda nor syuda! Naturally, after such a treacherous separation, Ukraine headed for: “Crimea will be either deserted or Ukrainian.” I personally do not even mind that we keep the Ukrainian fleet as we keep it, but that it acts in the interests of Ukraine and Russia. Uncontrolled sampling of water from underground storerooms, a time bomb, decreasing water is replaced by salt, and an environmental disaster is just around the corner. Who's guilty? Putin! This "strategist" absolutely does not understand what he leads and where the country leads !!! In addition to establishing lifelong management, he does not care about anything, except to not be responsible for what he has done !!!
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 28 May 2020 08: 11
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        Khrushchev stole the Crimea from the RSFSR, in violation of the constitution of the USSR and not only Crimea! ALL of your Ukraine on the map of 1654, within the borders of which you crawled to Russia from Poland, everything else is stolen from you, moreover, it is stolen goods, not conquered, because you are fighting like the bullet! Even the canal to the Crimea was built at the expense of the budget of anyone, but not Ukraine, the equipment was produced in the RSFSR and the republics of Central Asia! Your Ukraine was a subsidized region of the USSR and sat on the neck of other republics, so it could not finance at its own expense. Firstly, Ukraine itself was completely devastated by the Great Patriotic War and needed restoration, which was financed by the federal center, not Kiev at all, and secondly, your hands were in the wrong place and you always ate much more than you earned ... What did you do something ?! Even the car factory in Lviv was built and adjusted by engineers from the Moscow ZIL, and not your forever drunken raguli at the show-offs !!! And the Ukrainian Natsiks are to blame for everything, such as you! You are used to sitting on our neck! It’s time to throw you off, and to bend Ukraine so that you don’t even think about opening your mouth to Russia another time! And by the way, Russia is not obligated to supply Ukraine with water, and its Bandera population with jobs in the Russian Federation! We’ll see where you take water for the Dnieper when the Russian Federation blocks the water for you by sending it to the Don and Volga!
  2. Cyril Offline
    Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 11: 38
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    Legally, Kiev’s actions to stop the Crimea’s water supply fall under the definition of genocide

    Why all of a sudden?
    1. Marzhecki Offline
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 May 2020 12: 58
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      Quote: Cyril
      Legally, the actions of Kiev to stop the water supply to Crimea fall under the definition of genocide:

      Why all of a sudden?

      From the fact that fall.
      1. Cyril Offline
        Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 14: 09
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        No, they do not. The stop of water supply of the territory (de facto) of another state is not aimed at the physical destruction of the population of this territory.
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          AlexVas44 (Alexander) 27 May 2020 16: 49
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          Well, if they don’t fall, then connect the Dnieper north of Ukraine with the Don channel, etc., up to the Crimea.
        2. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 18: 44
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          ... not aimed at the physical destruction of the population of this territory ..

          Directly not, but the deliberate creation for any group of such living conditions that are designed for its complete or partial physical destruction is one of the main signs that determine genocide.

          Genocide (from the Greek. Γένος - clan, tribe and Latin caedo - I kill) - a form of collective violence [1], acts committed with the intention of destroying, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial, religious or other historically established cultural-ethnic [2] group as such by:

          killings of members of this group;
          causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of such a group;
          measures designed to prevent childbearing in such a group;
          forcibly transferring children from one human group to another;
          deliberate creation of living conditions designed for the complete or partial physical destruction of this group [3].
          Since 1948, genocide is recognized by the UN as an international crime.

          Wiki
          1. Cyril Offline
            Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 19: 39
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            Overlapping the canal is not the creation of living conditions aimed at the destruction of the population of Crimea.

            If Russia stops, for example, selling grain to Europe, no one will blame it for the genocide of Europeans. Similarly, here.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 19: 43
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              If Russia stops, for example, selling grain to Europe, no one will blame it for the genocide of Europeans.

              Is there a UN GA resolution for grain?
              1. Cyril Offline
                Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 19: 47
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                Show me the water resolution.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 19: 56
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                  Show me the water resolution.

                  You position yourself not stupid. Can't find it yourself?
                  Resolution 64/292, “The human right to water and sanitation”.

                  https://undocs.org/pdf?symbol=ru/A/RES/64/292
                  1. Cyril Offline
                    Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 10: 06
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                    Well, then you have the declaration of "grain" (food):

                    https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/declarations/hunger.shtml
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 10: 26
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                      Well then you have the declaration of "grain" (food)

                      And what, what does this have to do with depriving Crimeans of access to natural water from the canal?
                      1. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 10: 36
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                        Overlapping the canal is not the creation of living conditions aimed at the destruction of the population of Crimea.

                        If Russia stops, for example, selling grain to Europe, no one will blame it for the genocide of Europeans. Similarly, here.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 10: 43
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                        Overlapping the canal is not the creation of living conditions aimed at the destruction of the population of Crimea.

                        If Russia stops, for example, selling grain to Europe, no one will blame it for the genocide of Europeans. Similarly, here.

                        What nonsense are you talking about again?
                        Have you read about what the declaration is about?

                        ... an acute food crisis, which struck with particular force the people of developing countries, where most of the starving and malnourished people of the world live ..

                        What does Europe have to do with it ?? Is it a developing country? Is there hunger in Europe?

                        And for developing countries (with hunger) special humanitarian assistance programs are provided, in which Russia, like other developed countries - UN members, takes an active part.
                      3. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 10: 55
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                        What does Europe have to do with it ?? Is it a developing country? Is there hunger in Europe?

                        Well, well, if it ceases to be delivered not to the countries of Europe, but to the poor countries of Africa or Asia - will it be declared genocide? No.

                        And if Russia stops supplying gas and oil to the West, will it be declared genocide? Fuel deprivation can also be summed up under this:

                        "the deliberate creation of living conditions designed for the complete or partial physical destruction of this group"

                        The answer is simple, really. “Having returned Crimea to its native harbor”, Russia was obliged to take care of its water supply itself.
                      4. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 11: 06
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                        The answer is simple, really. “Having returned Crimea to its native harbor”, Russia was obliged to take care of its water supply itself.

                        Yes, let’s leave your demagogy alone, it’s essentially funny.
                        Concerning "care" - an article about her.
                        Personally, the power option impresses me. In 2014, the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation gave Putin the right to use the army and force order in Ukraine. He did not use this right then. I have no interest in discussing the reasons. Just take it as a fact. How it will look today is not entirely clear to me either.
                      5. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 11: 14
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                        Yes, let’s leave your demagogy alone, it’s essentially funny.

                        There is no demagoguery. The country's leadership should provide its citizens with everything necessary. Either at the expense of their resources, or buying them from other countries.

                        Personally, the power option impresses me. In 2014, the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation gave Putin the right to use the army and force order in Ukraine.

                        But after the implementation of this scenario, Russia will finally lose the fleur of the guardian of the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign countries.

                        I don’t care, actually)
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                      7. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 11: 33
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                        But after the implementation of this scenario, Russia will finally lose the fleur of the guardian of the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign countries.

                        I agree. Today, after 2 presidents of Ukraine elected and recognized by Russia, yes. And in 2014 there was a different situation. There was a coup d'etat, and in the hands of Russia was the legitimate president of Ukraine at that time. Nothing prevented Putin from putting things in order in a country that had not yet been annexed by the West from the CIS and returning the legitimate Yatsenyuk back. At least until the new elections scheduled for September of that year. This chance was missed. Today - the power scenario will resemble the struggle for survival, as is brewing in Egypt and Sudan against Ethiopia. But if there is no other way out, they should apply it, regardless of the consequences. But this is my personal opinion.
                      8. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 11: 58
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                        ... bring back the legitimate Yatsenyuk.

                        This is a mistake, Yanukovych had in mind.
                      9. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 15: 42
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                        I repeat - it is violet to me whether Russia will or will not use the force scenario now. Simply, if applicable, then all the talk that "Russia respects the sovereignty of other countries" and "does not interfere in internal affairs" can be thrown into the trash.

                        And then Russia, even formally, will not be any different from the same USA or Europe. More precisely, she was no different anyway, but after that she couldn’t even make a look.
  • Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 27 May 2020 19: 03
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    Well, yes, yes .... And why does this option fall if Russia turns the Dnieper towards the Kalmyk steppes, there is also little water there, and will let it bypass Ukraine, and even Belarus will not be asked .... . Yenisei was blocked, the Angara, too, and then some Dnieper, which in the heat you can wade ....
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      xilia72 (xantos) 28 May 2020 01: 52
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      What about

      a rare bird will reach the middle of the Dnieper.
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    A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 19: 11
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    Cyril, especially for YOU:

    Genocide (from the Greek. Γένος - clan, tribe and Latin caedo - I kill) - a form of collective violence, acts committed with the intention of destroying, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial, religious or other historically developed cultural and ethnic group as such by:
    .............
    - the deliberate creation of living conditions designed for the complete or partial physical destruction of this group [

    Moreover, this hydraulic engineering structure was created not by them (as a sovereign state), but by their predecessor, which included not only them (as part of the ONE WHOLE state), but ALL who lived in the USSR. Because here you can simply condemn them ... or FORCE ... And why they do not sue or force them - this is not a question for me.
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      Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 19: 37
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      Moreover, this hydraulic engineering structure was not created by them (as a sovereign state), but by their predecessor, which included not only them (as part of the ONE WHOLE state)

      With the division of this state into sovereigns, this hydraulic structure became the property of Ukraine. Did Russia mind? No. And if not, then Ukraine has every right to dispose of it at its discretion.
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        A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 20: 59
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        ... mmm ... and what comes to this structure from the territory of the Russian Federation (485 km) - do we also have the right to block?
        1. Valentine Offline
          Valentine (Valentin) 28 May 2020 06: 12
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          That's for Аlex, that the Dnieper water is delivered to them from Russia, and they need to tear money from them, and considerable.
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          Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 10: 08
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          That's right, we have, yes.
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            A.Lex (Secret information) 1 June 2020 08: 12
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            Cyril, only ours will not want to create another environmental disaster ...
      2. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 12: 02
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        ... the hydraulic structure has become the property of Ukraine.

        - construction - yes, Water - no.
        1. Cyril Offline
          Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 20: 00
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          Yes, no one (except common sense) does not prevent Russia from digging a bypass channel from the Dnieper to the Crimea or, for example, transporting water from the Russian part of the Dnieper to the Crimea.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 22: 34
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            Yes, no one (except common sense) does not prevent Russia from digging a bypass channel from the Dnieper to the Crimea ..

            Have you not been taught geography at school?)
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              Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 01: 58
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              Taught, of course, and I know her well. Therefore, he wrote in brackets (except for common sense).
      3. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 1 June 2020 08: 23
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        Cyril, because this "state" began a review of all guarantees in its creation (for example, the ability of the population to speak and study in their native language), then the very existence of this entity is UNLAWFUL!
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 May 2020 19: 20
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    Quote: Cyril
    No, they do not. The stop of water supply of the territory (de facto) of another state is not aimed at the physical destruction of the population of this territory.

    Are you a lawyer? I guess not. I'm a lawyer.
    Get a law degree first, and then talk about such topics.
    1. Cyril Offline
      Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 27
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      Then please answer such a question as a lawyer - the oil embargo imposed by the Arab countries against the West in 1973, is an act of genocide?
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        isofat (Sergei) 28 May 2020 19: 39
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        Cyril, your analogy does not roll. smile
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          Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 53
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          Why doesn't it roll?
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            isofat (Sergei) 28 May 2020 20: 18
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            Quote: Cyril
            Why doesn't it roll?

            Cyril. The final for your health, if you are left without water, will be very different from the final if you are left without oil. smile
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              Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 20: 29
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              Well, let's imagine what will happen if left without oil.

              Oil is, of course, fuel.

              Without fuel, transport does not work. The supply chain for the production and sale of goods is violated - including basic necessities, medical equipment, medicines, etc.

              Oil (fuel oil) is used in the operation of thermal power plants. Even in smaller quantities than coal or gas. This means that the supply of energy and heat is reduced. Again, industry, medical facilities are suffering, and ordinary people have a hard time.

              Does it fit the definition of “deliberate creation of living conditions designed to completely or partially physically destroy this group”? Yes, even as suitable, if desired.
              1. isofat Offline
                isofat (Sergei) 28 May 2020 20: 50
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                CyrilI am glad that you agree with me. smile
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 01: 56
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                  That is, do you agree that the Arab countries staged the West a genocide in 1973? Then I have no questions.
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                  isofat (Sergei) 29 May 2020 10: 17
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                  CyrilYou are trying to ascribe your nonsense to me. smile
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 10: 23
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                  I am glad that you agree with me.

                  If I agree with you, then automatically and you agree with me. And I argued that the situation with the limitation of water supplies to Crimea is no different from the oil embargo of 1973, and that the latter, if desired (or in the absence of common sense), can also be considered an act of genocide.

                  So you already decide.
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                  isofat (Sergei) 29 May 2020 10: 31
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                  Quote: Cyril
                  If I agree with you, then automatically and you agree with me.

                  Cyril. The youth’s hopes are nourished ... I, without the snotty ones, will figure it out myself, with which I agree, and with which I don’t.
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 10: 38
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                  Obviously, you won’t understand, you have to explain everything.
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            A.Lex (Secret information) 1 June 2020 08: 15
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            Cyril, how many people will live without water, and how many without oil?
  • Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 22: 37
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    Well, let's imagine what will happen if left without oil ..

    Well before, somehow they lived without oil. In addition, since you are such a lawyer, then remind me of the law on the human right to access to oil)
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      Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 01: 57
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      Well before, somehow they lived without oil.

      Previously, without the North Crimean Canal, they lived somehow. Lived? Lived.
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    4. Dear sofa expert. 29 May 2020 09: 22
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      Who are you by profession, Kyril? What is your salary?
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      Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 09: 31
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      Why are you interested in?
    6. Dear sofa expert. 29 May 2020 09: 56
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      Why are you interested in?

      To the question with a question) Well, this answer is enough for me, let's leave this topic.
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      Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 10: 24
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      This topic has nothing to do with the discussion, I don’t know why you raised it at all.
    8. Dear sofa expert. 29 May 2020 10: 33
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      ... not related at all.

      - for me it was. I closed it for myself.
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    isofat (Sergei) 29 May 2020 13: 18
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    Dear Couch Expert, still this young man in a dispute with opponents does not shy away from using the complaints mechanism, this is when his verbiage does not help him. smile
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    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 27 May 2020 15: 59
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    From the fact that fall.

    Is this the answer of a lawyer who was expelled from second year for poor progress or the answer of a certified lawyer?
    Who will force the invaders to give water if they themselves are not enough?
    Russia held the road to Crimea, built a bridge. Now, on top of the asphalt, lay a dozen pipes (in width) and stretch the water from Lake Baikal. Gazprom will help .... (the answer is that it’s not the invaders, but the former ones should not be offered).
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 19: 24
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      "Lacks"? And the fact that in the Kherson region there is an environmental disaster due to flooding, no?
      Second question: Do they trade with the occupier?
      Next: Do they go to the invader to rest?
      MORE: Do they go to the occupier to work?
      Listen, American, if you are not aware of the matter, it would be better if you didn’t stick out and show your ignorance .... a disgrace ... like all the measures ...
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      isofat (Sergei) 28 May 2020 19: 36
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      Quote: cmonman
      Is this the answer of a lawyer who was expelled from second year for poor progress or the answer of a certified lawyer?

      smile cmonman, as I understand it, this is a question of whom Mikhail Zadornov wrote about ... Am I right?
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    Bulanov (Vladimir) 27 May 2020 12: 00
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    If Russia had not supported Ukraine with the supply of electricity, metals, money (Sberbank), etc., Ukraine would have let water into Crimea a long time ago. And so Ukraine does not need it - and so Russia helps it.
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 19: 25
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      Vladimir ... something you mixed in a bunch ...
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    123 (123) 27 May 2020 12: 10
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    The critical situation with water in the Crimea is pushing Russia toward a power scenario.

    Legally, the actions of Kiev to stop the water supply to Crimea fall under the definition of genocide.
    It turns out that there is a bellie incident, there are also power capabilities. But is the Kremlin initiating a power scenario?

    Why should Russia hurry up with the solution of the “Ukrainian question”

    Russia needs to hurry up with a final solution to the “Ukrainian problem” and here, as they say, all the tools are good.

    Two articles came out, the signatures under them are different, but in essence they say the same thing. Demand an immediate war with Ukraine.

    Where does this synchronization come from? And in my opinion, not the first time.
    And the similarity of stylistic revolutions leads to certain thoughts. what
    I have one suspicion that one author writes under two pseudonyms?
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      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 19: 27
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      Yes ... there is such a suspicion ... copy-paste is it ...
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      And what did your party of Boris Alkash Witnesses really achieve with its boltology ?! Bandera continue to kill Russians in the Donbass with their shelling! Moreover, the Bandera animals were so insolent that they fired on the Crimea and the Rostov region of the Russian Federation, there are victims among the citizens of the Russian Federation! How much more will your party flutter with language, instead of putting things in order ?! How many more Russians should be killed in order for Volodya to rise from his chair and give the army the order to restore order ?! If you don’t want to work, resign, your party of talkers is already sick!
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    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 27 May 2020 12: 33
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    Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself. Desalination plants would solve the problem once and for all. As in Israel, as rightly mentioned in the article. Today, Israel exports water to Jordan, there is practically no water withdrawal from Kineret. Moreover, when as a result of dry winters Kinneret began to catastrophically grind, they decided to fill it with desalinated water. True, it was not needed. This year the rains were such that they even thought to open the dam, throw off the excess. Managed. But until completely filled, only nine cm remained. So Israel ....)
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      isofat (Sergei) 27 May 2020 13: 01
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      What to do with the Gunpowder barrel, on which a part of the population of Israel has been seated (Desalinated Sea Water).

      https://mrseennown.tumblr.com/post/86904473495/вредна-ли-опресненная-морская-вода-опресненная
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      Desalination plants would solve the problem once and for all. As in Israel, as rightly mentioned in the article ..

      ... desalinated water, as one would expect, was deadly to humans, animals, and plants. In this regard, it is appropriate to recall the tragic events of the 70s of the last century. On the Mangyshlak Peninsula (Caspian Sea, Kazakhstan), in 1973, a nuclear power plant and a powerful desalination plant were built to supply electricity and, most importantly, water to residents and the economy of the new city of Shevchenko (now called Aktau). People used this water for drinking, eating, watering food plants and watered pets. Soon, the sanitary inspection sounded the alarm: the number of oncological diseases and cases of stillbirths increased sharply in the city .. It will be shown below that after these events the Republic of Kazakhstan no longer considers desalination of sea water as its source of water supply ...

      Israel has fairly large reserves of fresh water in Lake Kinneret and small rivers, in underground springs and aquifer, and it is this water that now flows in its water supply ..

      These are excerpts from the article:

      http://maof.rjews.net/aspect/33-economics/13232---i----a
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        Hungry godfather Fox climbed into the garden;
        In it grape brushes were tearing.
        At the cinque, eyes and teeth were inflamed;
        A brush is juicy, like yachts burn;
        Only trouble, they hang high:
        Break off and no matter how she goes to them,
        Though he sees an eye
        Yes, the tooth is numb.
        Breaking through an hour,
        She went and said in vexation: “Well, then!
        He looks good,
        Yes green - no ripe berries:
        Immediately you’ll nag your mouth.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 13: 32
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          Hungry godfather Fox climbed into the garden;
          In it grape brushes were tearing.
          Kumushki’s eyes and teeth flared up ...

          I thought you’re smart enough to open the article and read the opinion of your Israeli colleague. Knowing such things is sometimes useful so as not to boast about what you don’t have.
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            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 27 May 2020 13: 52
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            I read the article: polemic. Moreover, I myself, being the owner of a degree and title, I can state that its author is not discussing correctly. Arguing about the dangers of deuterium on the human body, there is not a single reference to research that would confirm this. There is no evidence that the mass consumption of desalinated water in Israel has affected the average life expectancy in our country. Which, as everyone knows, is one of the highest in the world - 82.6 years. Desalinated water has been consumed since the early 90's. And the average life expectancy is increasing, mortality is decreasing. Moreover, the author of the publication you referred to in his own way interprets the conclusions of WHO on the safety of drinking desalinated water. They say they do not understand anything .... But he is smart. It happens. But the Israeli Ministry of Health also concluded that desalinated sea water is harmless. Not a word about it at all. Although, if the water were dangerous, then the opposition would be completely bald on the head of the government. Take a word. Each disease, which would be in a causal relationship with the use of desalinated water, would not leave the television screens and other media. The courts would be inundated with lawsuits. In addition, you consider the problem very narrowly: exclusively in the context of water consumption. In Israel, this problem is always considered in 3D format. The used water is purified and goes to technical needs. So, even if you conditionally admit your correctness without any evidence, desalinated water in the Crimea could go for irrigation, technical needs. After all, human consumption of water is not the main source of its consumption. Yes, I understand that Crimea is a significant factor that increases Russia's spending, and not Klondike at all. But the issue with the bridge was decided. Despite the mass of skeptical publications, that is technically impossible. In the same way, instead of hiding your head in the sand and claiming that desalination is a time bomb, is it not better to start adopting the experience of advanced countries. I mean Israel, if you do not understand. But some people understood.
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              ... the author is debating incorrectly. Arguing about the harm of deuterium to the human body, there is not a single link to research that would confirm ..

              - there, at the very end of the article, the author suggests answering questions.
            2. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 14: 16
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              Arguing about the dangers of deuterium on the human body ...

              - you only read to deuterium?
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              ... in Israel reflected in the average life expectancy in our country. Which, as everyone knows, is one of the highest in the world - 82.6 years ..

              In Israel, the company built two desalination plants - in Ashkelon (2005) and in Hadera (2010). To summarize the life expectancy is insufficient. Drink this water for another 10-15 years, then let's talk about it.

              It is provided that you drink this water.

              Israel has fairly large reserves of fresh water in Lake Kinneret and small rivers, in underground springs and aquifer, and it is this water that now flows in its water supply ..
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                isofat (Sergei) 27 May 2020 15: 00
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                Dear Couch ExpertThere’s nothing to argue about, advanced Israel simply has no other alternative. smile
                1. Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 15: 09
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                  ... there is nothing to argue about, advanced Israel simply has no other alternative.

                  Yes, for God's sake, who argues? Drink on health. And in Crimea, this problem will be solved differently. Yes, even if as the author of the article suggests. And what, there Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia, apparently, will also solve the problem of water supply.
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                    A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 22: 53
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                    It’s something else that surprises me and confuses me ... It seems that you write normal arguments ... but (for the most part) you are constantly being made down. Although in your comments (sometimes) there is nonsense (well, who doesn’t have it?).
                    My question is - is that a prejudice or an editorial policy?
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                Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 12: 22
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                To summarize the life expectancy is insufficient.

                10-15 years behind the eyes is enough to reveal the health consequences, if any, especially since the diagnosis of chromosomal mutations has now moved far ahead compared to the 20th century.
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                  10-15 years behind the eyes is enough to reveal the health consequences, if any, especially since the diagnosis of chromosomal mutations has now moved far ahead compared to the 20th century.

                  Maybe only:
                  a) it is too early to speak about the effect on life expectancy in 10-15 years.
                  b) where is the confidence that everyone is telling you? And even if they try, you don’t want to believe it either).
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                    Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 13: 26
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                    it’s too early to talk about the impact on life expectancy in 10-15 years

                    Not early. Oncological problems appear after 2-3 years, problems with reproductive function, cardiovascular and other systems, too. Moreover, a new generation is born in 10-15 years, so we can talk about the presence of birth defects in children.

                    Once again, modern diagnostic tools make it possible to identify health problems within a year or two after the onset of the negative effects of radionuclides on the body, if any.

                    where is the confidence that everyone is telling you?

                    The argument "authorities hide" has no evidential value, because it is a priori undeniable.

                    And even if they try, you don’t want to believe it either)

                    You have already been told that no factual evidence of the harm of desalination plants used in Israel has been provided. No statistics have been provided on the deterioration of human health. Without them, any reasoning is just reasoning.
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                      ... modern diagnostic tools can identify health problems within a year or two after the onset of the negative effects of radionuclides on the body, if any ..

                      Please tell me more about these tools. And it somehow smacks of "just reasoning."
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                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 15: 32
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                        Blood and feces tests for tumor markers, ultrasound, histological examination, mammography (for detecting breast cancer), MRI, X-ray diagnostics - can detect cancer even in the early stages, when there are no symptoms.

                        Spermogram allows you to evaluate sperm fertility - sperm motility, their morphological structure, concentration in the ejaculate.

                        Preimplantation and prenatal genetic screening - allow to detect chromosomal mutations in the fetus. Moreover, even in an unfertilized egg.

                        If there was any real harm from desalination plants in Israel, this would have been known 3-4 years after they were put into operation. Moreover, this is Israel, medicine there is one of the best in the world.
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                      3. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 16: 32
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                        If there was any real harm from desalination plants in Israel, this would have been known 3-4 years after they were put into operation ..

                        The article says that:

                        Israel has fairly large reserves of fresh water in Lake Kinneret and small rivers, in underground springs and aquifer, and it is this water that now flows in its water supply ..

                        - and about water from desalination plants installed:

                        All modern developed and developing countries, understanding the importance of preserving the gene pool of their peoples. they allow the use of already existing desalination plants in their territories only for technical and household needs, excluding the ingress of desalinated water into living organisms.

                        So the harm of desalinated water is known. And while the Israelis do not drink it, there is no direct harm from it. But there is an indirect one: when using such water in the farm, the soil and the animal world become infected. The harm from this will be visible, apparently, later.
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                        All modern developed and developing countries, understanding the importance of preserving the gene pool of their peoples. they allow the use of already existing desalination plants in their territories only for technical and household needs, excluding the ingress of desalinated water into living organisms.

                        And no evidence of these words.

                        Now let's see here -

                        https://p-w-w.org/index.php?topic=16640.0

                        Approximately 20 million cubic meters of drinking water are extracted daily by the Gulf countries from the sea. In saudi arabia already 70% of the total volume of drinking water is extracted from the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. The entire coast of the bay is dotted with more than 200 power plants that desalinate the sea, and local residents want to add more and more to them. In the United Arab Emirates alone, they are thinking about doubling the capacity of desalination.

                        The largest desalination plant to date is located in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. Directly on the coast, through the Jabal Ali complex, it flows daily to turn into in drinking, more than two billion liters of sea water. This is the volume of approximately 800 Olympic pools. Everything happens mainly in eight stages of multi-stage flash distillation (evaporation). Water purified from large debris flows through these chambers; on the other hand, streams of hot steam are directed here through huge pipes, which instantly evaporates sea water.
                      5. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 18: 19
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                        And no evidence of these words.

                        Well, I don’t know what kind of confirmation you need. Well, maybe this:

                        1. Bentsion Teläner, Facts about the Israeli pseudoscience about water or the role of the individual in the history of water supply in Israel, http://www.pensiaolim.org/techno/Magazine/Telyaner.htm
                        2. L. Krasilshchikov, Problems of rational use of water resources of Israel, http://www.elektron2000.com/krasilshikov_0112.html
                        3. V. Wetstein, professor, M. Ganopolsky - professor, academician of the Academies of Medical Sciences of the USA and Russia, etc., An open letter to all branches and authorities of Israel. http://www.isra.com/news/86251
                        4. G. D. Berdyshev et al. “Aquabiotics - the science of the role of water in life processes”, Kiev, 2003
                        5. W. Bild and at "Research regarding the radioprotective and immunostimulating effects of deuterium-depleted water", Rom. J. Physiol., 1999.36, 3-4. p. 205-218.
                        6. G. Somlyai, G. Jancso at all, "Naturally occurring deuterium is essential for the normal growth rate of cells", FEBS Lett. 317, (1993).
                        7. G. Somlyai "The biological effect of deuterium depletion", Budapest, Akademiai Klado, 2002
                        8. Sergeeva N.S. et al. Investigation of the effect of water with a reduced deuterium content on the growth of human tumor cells in in vitro experiments. Conference “New Bio-Cybernetic and Telemedicine Technologies of the 2003st Century”, Petrozavodsk, XNUMX
                        9. The role of Light Water in the treatment of oncology. http://www.junivita.com/publications/38-science-of-light-water/269-onkologia.html
                        10. Kirk B. Goodall, Preliminary Analysis of the Role of Deuterium in DNA Degradation, The Official Newsletter of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, Fall 2003
                        11. Wetstein V., Shevchenko L. Once again about the quality of drinking water, http://zhurnal.lib.ru/e/etkin_w/eshepazokachestvevody.shtml
                        12. M. Amusya and M. Perelman, On water, anniversary and pseudoscience, http://humanism.su/ru/articles.phtml?num=000583
                        Doc. A. Likhtser
                        Jerusalem House of Technology, http://www.pensiaolim.org/techno/Magazine/Lichzer.htm

                        Good luck reading)
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                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 18: 51
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                        1. Bentsion Teläner, Facts about Israeli pseudoscience, about water, or about the role of an individual in the history of Israel’s water supply.

                        http://www.pensiaolim.org/techno/Magazine/Telyaner.htm

                        Non working

                        2. L. Krasilshchikov, Problems of rational use of water resources of Israel, http://www.elektron2000.com/krasilshikov_0112.html

                        Non working

                        http://www.isra.com/news/86251

                        No statistical studies of the harmful effects of drinking desalinated water have been provided.

                        G. D. Berdyshev et al. “Aquabionics - the science of the role of water in life processes”, Kiev, 2003

                        2003 book in general. Accordingly, there are no data either.

                        5. W. Bild and at "Research regarding the radioprotective and immunostimulating effects of deuterium-depleted water", Rom. J. Physiol., 1999.36, 3-4. p. 205-218.
                        6. G. Somlyai, G. Jancso at all, "Naturally occurring deuterium is essential for the normal growth rate of cells", FEBS Lett. 317, (1993).
                        7. G. Somlyai "The biological effect of deuterium depletion", Budapest, Akademiai Klado, 2002
                        8. Sergeeva N.S. et al. Investigation of the effect of water with a reduced deuterium content on the growth of human tumor cells in in vitro experiments. Conference “New Bio-Cybernetic and Telemedicine Technologies of the 2003st Century”, Petrozavodsk, XNUMX

                        This is also released before 2006.

                        9. The role of Light Water in the treatment of oncology.

                        http://www.junivita.com/publications/38-science-of-light-water/269-onkologia.html

                        The link does not work.

                        10. Kirk B. Goodall, Preliminary Analysis of the Role of Deuterium in DNA Degradation, The Official Newsletter of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, Fall 2003

                        It does not apply to business either.

                        11. Wetstein V., Shevchenko L. Once again about the quality of drinking water, http://zhurnal.lib.ru/e/etkin_w/eshepazokachestvevody.shtml

                        But in this link there’s generally wonderful, I quote:

                        A partial answer to this question was obtained with the help of laboratories of well-known research institutes, which have the appropriate analytical equipment and specialists. By agreement with prof. M.V. Kurik, director of the Institute of Human Ecology, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, (Kiev), water samples from a consumer tap (PC) of Ashkelon were sent to their research. According to the conclusion of the Institute, approved by the Scientific Council, this water is devoid of bioenergy, those. It is 'dead' and unsuitable for drinking.

                        Bioenergy of water .... mdeeeee.

                        http://humanism.su/ru/articles.phtml?num=000583

                        This article has nothing to do with the desalination of water, nor with Israel.

                        Doc. A. Likhtser
                        Jerusalem House of Technology.

                        http://www.pensiaolim.org/techno/Magazine/Lichzer.htm

                        Also does not open.

                        As a result, in none of the links there are any statistics that 10-15 years after the introduction of desalination plants in Israel, some pathologies began to be observed in the population. And in one of the links a frankly anti-scientific nonsense about the "lack of bioenergy" is broadcast.
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                        Yes, you just won’t open something. Protect) Yes do not care. Do you want to drink this stuff.
                      8. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 19: 04
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                        1. Bentsion Teläner, Facts about Israeli pseudoscience, about water, or about the role of an individual in the history of Israel’s water supply.

                        http://www.pensiaolim.org/techno/Magazine/Telyaner.htm

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                        Eh, well, show "Russian ingenuity" (are you like Russian?) Moreover, I already sent you this link)

                        http://zmdosie.ru/resursy/voda/653-opresnennaya-pitevaya-voda
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                        Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 10
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                        So I tried to find at least something and through a search on this site, and through a search in Google - nothing.

                        Oh, through Google I found this article. Published, however, not in a scientific peer-reviewed journal, but in LJ. And nothing but violent, but meaningless attacks on opponents does not represent.

                        Again, no statistics, nothing.
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                        ... through a Google search - nothing ..

                        Did you ask Siri?)
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 18: 55
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                  And one of the authors of the appeal about the “danger of desalinated water” looks like this:

                  V. ETKIN - Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Academician of the International Academy of Biotechnologies; Supervisor All-Israel Association
                  "Energy Informatics"
                  ; Haifa

                  Energy informatics is pseudoscience, if that.
                3. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 19: 12
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                  Energy informatics is pseudoscience, if that.

                  This is not for me) This is for the Jews. I don’t know why they called Bioenergoinformatics “abbreviated”), maybe because their scientists are as literate as here on the site?)) “With advanced degrees”))
                  Drink, I tell you.
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 14
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                  So bioenergyinformatics - this is pseudoscience.

                  And why then refer to pseudoscience?
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 14
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                  Drink, I tell you.

                  So they drink it - and nothing, no "demographic catastrophe" in Israel is not observed.
          2. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 18: 32
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            And here is the article itself, the author of which used all these links:

            http://zmdosie.ru/resursy/voda/653-opresnennaya-pitevaya-voda
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            Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 05
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            And in this article there are no facts proving the harm of desalinated water)
          4. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 19: 16
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            And in this article there are no facts proving the harm of desalinated water.

            Okay, read all the articles first, do a full analysis of what you read, then report back in bulk. Is the task clear? Follow up.
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            Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 19: 20
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            What for?

            To unequivocally solve the issue of the negative impact of desalinated water on the Israeli population, it is enough to simply conduct an appropriate study. 15 years of operation of desalination plants is a sufficient period.

            Such a study, with results proving an increase in the incidence rate, was conducted by critics of these desalination plants? No.

            The burden of proof lies with the approver.
          6. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 22: 40
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            The burden of proof lies with the approver ..

            No, dear "lawyer") By the presumption of innocence, the "prosecutor" should prove))
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            Cyril (Kirill) 29 May 2020 01: 55
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            That's it. Since you are “blaming” Israeli desalination systems for allegedly causing cancer and other pathologies, you can prove it. What am I talking about.
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    Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 17: 08
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    And to justify the danger of modern desalination plants by the fact that in the one that was used in Kazakhstan in the 70s, the water produced was of poor quality, somewhat naive, because the technology had taken a long step forward.
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    Cyril (Kirill) 28 May 2020 17: 12
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    Here is another study -

    http://www.cleandex.ru/articles/2015/08/15/seawater_desilination_market

    It shows in one diagram that more than 60 percent of the desalinated water goes to the “municipalities”. Given that industry and agriculture are separately distinguished in the same diagram, that by “municipalities” is meant (I think) precisely the consumption of desalinated water for household needs, including drinking, of the population.
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  • Dear sofa expert. 27 May 2020 14: 30
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    Moreover, I myself, being the owner of a degree and title, I can say ..

    - it sounded like: the champion of the world and its environs)) Do you have a degree in chemistry? Or - "and the reaper, and the priest, and the conductor on the pipe"?
    I am a chemist in my second education. Polyurethane production technology. The argumentation of the author of the article didn’t cause my personal rejection. Everything is consistent.
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    isofat (Sergei) 27 May 2020 15: 18
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    Tramp1812There’s nothing to argue about. At advanced Israel's just no other alternative. Desalinate when you bring everything to mind and yourself will remain alive, then we'll see. smile
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    So then Israel ...

    And the article ends, generally cool)

    From the contents of this article, it is obvious that apologists for the water supply of Israel with desalinated sea water, such as prof. Y. Kolodny, who, contrary to international experience and the conclusions of world science, declared that “the project of desalination plant in Ashkelon is our fixed assets, it will work for my grandchildren,” pushing our state on a gamble fraught with severe social consequences and prolonged genocide of its of the people. Let the distinguished Mr. Professor forgive me, but I doubt very much that our great-grandchildren and their descendants will be able to appreciate his predictions if desalination plants really become "our main assets." For the sake of the health and well-being of all generations of Israelis, the Government and the Knesset must immediately stop financing the design, construction and operation of all industrial desalination plants in the country. Moreover, the problems of water supply in Israel are actually quite solved by harmless and cheaper and more reliable methods ..

    http://maof.rjews.net/aspect/33-economics/13232---i----a
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    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 May 2020 12: 48
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    Yes, bullshit is a question.
    If in 6 years the issue of water has not been resolved, then it means no. "And you hold on."

    6 years of continuous victories, there will be the 7th. Well, they will still plant a little officials for theft, converge, disperse, scold, the budget will allocate more money, they will write that thousands and thousands of Germans are returning to live in Crimea ...
    And there is winter.
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    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 27 May 2020 14: 22
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    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    From the content of this article, it is clear that apologists for the water supply of Israel with desalinated sea water, such as prof. Y. Kolodny, who, contrary to international experience and the conclusions of world science, declared that “the project of desalination plant in Ashkelon is our fixed assets, it will work for my grandchildren,” pushing our state on a gamble fraught with severe social consequences and prolonged genocide of its of the people. Let the distinguished Mr. Professor forgive me, but I doubt very much that our great-grandchildren and their descendants will be able to appreciate his predictions if desalination plants really become "our main assets." For the sake of the health and well-being of all generations of Israelis, the Government and the Knesset must immediately stop financing the design, construction and operation of all industrial desalination plants in the country. Moreover, the problems of water supply in Israel are actually quite solved by harmless and cheaper and more reliable methods.

    http://maof.rjews.net/aspect/33-economics/13232---i----a

    Just what I had the honor to write about: demagogy. Without a single argument. Than actually, in my humble understanding and amiable this publication to any different undemanding public.
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      all kinds of undemanding public ..

      I agree. Especially when you consider that the article was written by an Israeli, for the Israelis.
      I personally do not read such articles, your topic doesn’t really bother me.
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    nikolaj1703 (Nikolai) 27 May 2020 15: 28
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    The stop of water supply to the Crimea led to a decrease in the speed of the Dnieper in the Kiev region, as a result of which the riverbed was overgrown with grass and turned into a swamp. Poverty Svidomo led to an environmental disaster in Kiev.
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      A.Lex (Secret information) 27 May 2020 22: 58
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      Nikolay, I wrote HERE about this to the American Garik Mokin. Let's see what he answers.
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      Cyril (Kirill) 27 May 2020 18: 00
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      Oh, another one who wrote me down as a Jew. Come on, make the next move, so characteristic of individuals like you - ranked me as an "evil ukra".
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 27 May 2020 18: 30
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        Yes, he completely broke his remaining brains on the "Jewish theme." So do not be surprised.
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        Binder (Miron) 27 May 2020 20: 33
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        So for such an audience recently, the words Jew and Ukrainian have almost become synonymous, and as an apotheosis - an oxymoron Jewish Bandera laughing
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          isofat (Sergei) 27 May 2020 21: 25
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          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          recently words Jew и Ukrainian almost become synonymous

          Binderyou probably wanted to say - Zionist и Bandera have practically become synonyms in Ukraine?
          1. Dear sofa expert. 28 May 2020 08: 32
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            So for such an audience recently, the words Jew and Ukrainian have almost become synonymous, and as an apotheosis - an oxymoron Jew-Bandera

            - Apparently, you relate yourself to this group?) I would slightly correct: “NEDOEvre-Bandera”, and there is also a group of “six Ukrainian” (we will not point fingers).
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    argo44 (mac) 27 May 2020 17: 04
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    To co się dzieje na wschodzie kraju - to wojna domowa. To co się wydarzyło na Krymie - to są różne oceny, jedni się zgadzają, a inni nie. Ale jeżeli Rosja - pod jakimkolwiek pretekstem - zaatakuje zbrojnie Ukrainę - to spełni się marzenie zachodu. Wszystkie kłamstwa o agresywnej Rosji zostaną uwiarygodnione. Nałożą na was sankcje i będą powoli dobijać .-------------------- google trnsl -----

    What is happening in the east of the country is a civil war. What happened in Crimea is different ratings, some agree, others not. But if Russia - under any pretext - invades Ukraine by armed means - then the dream of the West will come true. All lies about aggressive Russia will be counted. They will impose sanctions on you and will gradually finish you off.
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      All lies about aggressive Russia will be counted.

      But he said it right! Lies about aggressive Russia!
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      Valentine (Valentin) 27 May 2020 19: 23
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      So far, Russia will not invade Ukraine under any pretext, because this will be followed by the entry of NATO troops into the rest of it, because the corresponding law on foreign troops in Ukraine has already been signed by Pan Ze, but if it cuts off all supplies of gas and oil, electricity, coal and industrial equipment - that is when Ukraine will sit on its fifth point, and this is unambiguous, but for this our “guarantor” needs to be a real man with iron “Faberge” in order to go against our rogue oligarchs, grabbing fat from this war.
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        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 28 May 2020 08: 32
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        The entry of NATO troops into Lviv and similar areas of Banderostan is inevitable, so take it as it is. Now either the Russian Federation will bite from Ukraine at least a piece of what Ukraine had stolen from Russia during the Soviet era, or it will lose everything, including the Kharkov region, which even belonged to Russia under Catherine ...
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          A.Lex (Secret information) 1 June 2020 08: 20
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          NATO will not invade the former. USSR.
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            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 June 2020 08: 30
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            NATO may not be, and Poland does not hide its appetites and arming itself to the teeth for a reason ... Russia does not make sense to fight for Bandera’s Galicia, and the Poles have enough strength for UKROPs today.
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    Valentin Spagis (Valentin Spagis) 27 May 2020 21: 40
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    Yes, there are no special problems in the Crimea. Crimean Tatars Crimea as a part of Russia is quite satisfied. Water scarcity? This problem must be solved. Only Russia will definitely not be at war with Ukraine over the Crimean canal. She needs to hit the jackpot more seriously. For example, return Novorossia. To do this, we need an appropriate situation, as was the case with Crimea.
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    vlad150 (vlad150) 27 May 2020 21: 54
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    Miners are waiting for the team! You have spoiled so many miners that now the rubicon has been completed, they won’t cheat with you. Bendery will not shelter you, because you are Orthodox, and they themselves need a roof, but they have Poland! Where are you going to run? You have nowhere to go!
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    Fikret A (Fikret A.) 28 May 2020 22: 46
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    A simple way to solve the problem: Drive the tractor into Smolensk and slowly block the Dnieper from there towards Kiev, and look at the reaction.
    1. Michael Malovichko (Michael Malovichko) 29 May 2020 00: 06
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      Do you really think that if, for example, you block the Volga in the Rzhev region, then there will be no water in Astrakhan?