"Bite off too much": Israeli media about the problems of the Russian Federation in the Middle East


Russia was in a quandary in Syria. State media no longer speak of victories in the Middle East - these news replaced by reports of a coronavirus, the Israeli newspaper The Jerusalem Post writes.


Russia developed its success in the Middle East between 2015 and 2020. She actively intervened in Syrian affairs, intimidating Americans with new missiles and selling her air defense systems around the world, including to a NATO member - Turkey. But why did the Russian Federation begin to experience problems in Syria and in the whole region? This is argued by the experts of the Israeli publication.

Russia seems to have “bitten off” too much in the Middle East in an attempt to influence a range of processes. For several years, Jerusalem, Riyadh, Cairo, Ankara, Damascus, Tehran and Baghdad had placed too high hopes on Russia in solving the problems of the region. Moscow is consistent in supporting its allies, whether it be South Ossetia, the DPR or Assad in Syria, but its efforts are not very successful. Political Assad regime fizzles out, and the consequences of his victories in 2018 and 2019 are no longer so obvious.

In attempts to simultaneously resolve the conflicts in Syria and Libya, finding a common language with the warring parties, Russia is defeated. At the same time, Turkey, becoming a geopolitical rival to Moscow, does not hesitate to act more aggressively. Russia seeks to be a link between the warring parties, a friend to all, but this does not lead to visible results, we are confident in Israel.

The Jerusalem Post advises Moscow to choose a specific side and adhere to a clear plan, rather than trying to maintain an all-for-all brand.
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  1. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 25 May 2020 11: 20
    +1
    And Israel itself will not choke on what "bites off"?
    1. Jacques Offline Jacques
      Jacques (jacques) 25 May 2020 11: 58
      0
      No, I won’t choke.
    2. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 25 May 2020 12: 46
      -1
      Israel is not trying to bite anything. He bit off everything he needed in the Arab-Israeli wars. His main goal in Syria is to squeeze Iran out of it.
    3. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry S.
      And Israel itself will not choke on what "bites off"?

      It is difficult to choke if you have not eaten from the ustatka. I remember that during the Arab aggression in 1967, the Golan, including El Quneitra, were completely liberated by the IDF. In 1973, Syria again tried military luck, but on the second day of the fighting the Israelis crossed the "purple line" and entered the suburbs of Damascus. They even fired at the capital of the SAR from howitzers. At the conclusion of the truce, Israel of its own free will returned 60% of the Golan to Syria, along with El Quneitra, by the way. Well, he annexed Mount Hermon and there 18 kilometers of strategically important heights. By the way, according to the Paris Treaty, all the Golan had to be Israeli, the Jews bought them out, there is a bill of sale. They returned their own, dear. But the rest of the players will not return anything to anyone. First, there is no one. And secondly: why on earth? Remember: Turkey returned to the same Syria the Alexandretta sandjak, shamelessly chopped off from her. Now, let me remind you - the Turkish province of Hatway.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 25 May 2020 16: 55
        +1
        I recall that during the 1967 Arab aggression, the Golan, including El Cuneitra, were fully released IDF.

        At the time of the armistice, Israel voluntarily returned 60% of the Golan to Syria, along with El Cuneitra, by the way. Well, Mount Hermon and there are 18 kilometers of strategically important heights annexed.

        Do contradictions not bother you? smile You already decide what it was. repeat
        As they say, either remove the cross or put on your pants. yes
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 17: 20
          -1
          Quote: 123
          I recall that during the 1967 Arab aggression, the Golan, including El Cuneitra, were fully released IDF.

          At the time of the armistice, Israel voluntarily returned 60% of the Golan to Syria, along with El Cuneitra, by the way. Well, Mount Hermon and there are 18 kilometers of strategically important heights annexed.

          Do contradictions not bother you? smile You already decide what it was. repeat
          As they say, either remove the cross or put on your pants. yes

          What are you talking about: Uncle Sidor? What is the contradiction?
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 25 May 2020 17: 24
            +1
            What are you talking about: Uncle Sidor? What is the contradiction?

            Dear nephew Pedro, remembering vision problems, I specially marked the text in bold for you. repeat
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 17: 41
              -2
              Hamite, boy!
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 25 May 2020 18: 07
                +2
                Hamite, boy!

                Not at all. request Did you not notice the contradictions?
  2. camo ridges Offline camo ridges
    camo ridges (Michael) 25 May 2020 11: 41
    +1
    If the Jewish guys really think so, then they are greatly mistaken. Under the brand, as the article says, "everything for everyone," Russia did not at all forget about its own interests and invariably received what it went to for some expenses in any region. In Syria, we have created a powerful outpost to advance our aspirations, and as for Libya, the last rooster has not crowed about the offensive yet
    dawn and who will benefit from the coming day. So, the information on new aircraft from Haftar appeared ... And although the warrior from him is fig, God willing, with our help he will achieve his goals ...
    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 25 May 2020 19: 50
      -3
      In Syria, we have created a powerful outpost to advance our aspirations.

      You overestimate the stability of the mood of the Arab countries. In the 70s, the USSR also seemed to have created its own powerful outpost in Egypt. Then - fig - Egypt began to tilt toward an alliance with the West.
  3. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 25 May 2020 14: 20
    -1
    Quote: Camo Grydeshi
    In Syria, we have created a powerful outpost to advance our aspirations.

    If not a secret - which ones?
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 16: 03
      -1
      Quote: AlexZN
      Quote: Camo Grydeshi
      In Syria, we have created a powerful outpost to advance our aspirations.

      If not a secret - which ones?

      This refers to a strategy where sofas are powerful outposts to advance your aspirations. Towards the bathrooms. )
  4. GRF Offline GRF
    GRF 25 May 2020 15: 25
    +3
    The Jerusalem Post advises Moscow to choose a specific side and adhere to a clear plan, rather than trying to maintain an all-for-all brand

    There were advisers in the 80s-90s and more amicable (at least they called themselves in their native language, because they were patriotic), the level of advisers is becoming smaller ... For they do not even think about what will happen to them if Russia suddenly heed their advice and choose the wrong side?
    We bite for the hungry Syrians, and they have not completely eaten yet, so you should advise yourself - stay away.
    1. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 25 May 2020 16: 15
      +2
      We bite for the hungry Syrians ...

      In fact, in Syria, a civil war - some citizens of Syria against Assad.
      Both sides are hungry. You bite for well-fed Assad, and spit deep on hungry Syrians on both sides of Russia!
      1. GRF Offline GRF
        GRF 25 May 2020 16: 31
        +4
        I don’t consider Syrians to be hungry Ishilovites, like any other armed gangster rabble, but it falls to them. You too thoroughly accept the allegory about the hungry Syrians. For them, Russia delivers periodically satisfying humanitarian aid. Therefore, the idea of ​​biting off the territory of Syria for the Syrians, we continue further, as I understand it, at the expense of the Americans ...
        1. cmonman Offline cmonman
          cmonman (Garik Mokin) 25 May 2020 16: 57
          -2
          I do not consider the hungry Igilovites, like any other armed gangster rabble, to be Syrians.

          Lenin and the Bolsheviks, too, considered the workers and peasants participating in the civil war on the side of the whites a “gangster rabble”. Only in the 90s did Russia realize that the civil war was a mistake. And in Syria, Russia puts on Assad, in 10-15 years to admit that it was a mistake. Rake and rake in Syria ...
          1. GRF Offline GRF
            GRF 26 May 2020 04: 18
            +2
            Watering thugs is not a mistake, no matter what colors they are. And I do not need to powder my brains again, I already stepped on this rake.
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 25 May 2020 17: 04
        +4
        In fact, in Syria, a civil war - some citizens of Syria against Assad.
        Both sides are hungry. You bite for well-fed Assad, and spit deep on hungry Syrians on both sides of Russia!

        In fact, there among the starving people, who recently cut off their heads on camera en masse, bearded "orphan women" from the Caucasus and Central Asia have crept in, and the Americans, the British and other "coalitionists" can hardly be called local residents. They probably want to feed the hungry. Did I understand correctly? Apparently, there is a concentration of starving people in the oil fields. laughing
    2. Jacques Offline Jacques
      Jacques (jacques) 25 May 2020 16: 18
      -1
      We bite for the hungry Syrians, and they have not completely eaten yet, so you should advise yourself - stay away.

      We’ll boldly go to battle, there’s a stop in the Commune
      There is no other way for us, in our hands: Automatic, Multiply charged, Self-bending, Self-guiding ... etc., etc. ...
      The main thing is not to forget cheeks Blow !!! )))
  5. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 16: 01
    0
    There will never be peace in Syria, or rather, in the territory previously called Syria. It's gone too far. But the end of hostilities is quite possible. Each of the influential players, except Israel, has already "bitten off" his own piece of the geopolitical pie. And controls part of the territory. Including Russia. But if Turkey, the Kurds, the United States have no competitors in the territories controlled and liberated from terrorists, then the Russian Federation does. And this is Iran. It’s impossible to steer together. One must leave. And since Iran is a bone in the throat of Israel and its security, the Persians will have to leave. From there, and the tacit coordination of the actions of the Russian Federation and Israel. The best option: Israel squeezes Iran, and the Russian Federation ensures the security of Israel's northern borders, controlling a small part of the territory under the nominal control of the Assad regime.
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 25 May 2020 16: 53
      -2
      Quote: Rogue1812
      The best option: Israel squeezes Iran, and the Russian Federation ensures the security of the northern borders of Israel

      This option seems to me rather fantastic - the Russians do not have former territory. Syria has neither sufficient strength nor the desire to ensure the security of the Israeli borders. And in the Russian leadership there are not those people who should be trusted, no one in Israel trusts them - dumb are bad. laughing We would be good, relying on Russia in matters of our own security! The Persians in Syria need the fifth wheel as a cart, because they don’t show a negative attitude towards Israeli attacks on Iran’s targets, but they don’t think about doing anything for the Israelis. I remember they already promised to somehow push the Persians and their proxies from the Israeli border - they did nothing, and could not do ...
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 17: 16
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        Israel, like any self-respecting and strong country, has no constant friends and constant enemies. There are only permanent interests. In 1948, based on its interests, Soviet Russia organized the sale of weapons to Israel through Czechoslovakia, and already in 1953 broke off diplomatic relations with our country. France until 1967 was the main supplier of weapons to Israel, and then took an anti-Israeli position. The USA under Obama conducted far from Israel friendly policies. And now: the Trump government is the friendliest to Israel in the entire history of relations. Therefore - this is the case when you should never say. The Russian Federation has problems. Until 2015, they did not stutter about Syria. And suddenly the troops entered.
        Why did it happen? Money has nowhere to go? No, this is geopolitics: oil and gas as the main source of income for the Russian Federation. Real ways to replace transit through hostile Ukraine. But it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines: Turks, Americans, Bulgarians. They wanted the best, but they don't dance. Leaving, losing face - not so understand. To remain and continue to tolerate Iran as an older wife is all the more impossible. Let's say Iran is gone. Who will ensure the security of Israel's northern borders? We will provide it ourselves. Not the first time. Clear. But there is already a precedent. In Sinai, where the Americans are. And Israel didn't mind. And what they can throw - they can. There are analysts for that. For example, the late Sharon, long before the Yom Kippur War, cleared the passage to the canal and paved the road. He understood that anything could be and calculated the enemy's actions. Read "History of the State of Israel" M. Shterenshis. So it is here. This option, in my opinion, is no worse than constantly hammering Iranian bases.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 25 May 2020 18: 02
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          Quote: Rogue1812
          This option, in my opinion, is no worse than constantly hammering Iranian bases.

          It seems that forceful pressure on Iranian facilities cannot be dispensed with, which in no way precludes interaction with Russia in the region.
          1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 18: 46
            -1
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            Quote: Rogue1812
            This option, in my opinion, is no worse than constantly hammering Iranian bases.

            It seems that forceful pressure on Iranian facilities cannot be dispensed with, which in no way precludes interaction with Russia in the region.

            Of course. First, Iran receives full moral satisfaction from the slap in the face of Israel. Then leaves. It goes without saying. Well, why should Israel aggravate relations with Russia. Israel, traditionally always tries to come to an agreement first. If it doesn’t work out .... And with the Russian Federation today you can find a compromise. Which, I am sure, does Israel. Although, anything can be. Including, and within the Russian Federation. Here you are right, of course.
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 25 May 2020 21: 32
              -4
              Quote: Rogue1812
              Although, anything can be. Including, and within the Russian Federation.

              In fact of the matter...
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 25 May 2020 17: 18
      +3
      But if Turkey, the Kurds, the United States in the territories controlled and freed from terrorists have no competitors, then the Russian Federation does. And this is Iran.

      Are you sure? "Turkey, Kurds, USA" have no competitors? Have Turks and Kurds already agreed and made peace? They will not be able to come to an agreement with each other, and then there are overseas "oilmen", the Kurds also consider the oil fields their own. And Iran is not a competitor to them? Is this the one that promised to launch rockets at the Turks in Idlib? And the Iranians have no contradictions with the Americans?

      Steering somehow will not work. One must leave.

      Absolutely. good There is a legitimate government and Russian troops there at his invitation. The rest should go.
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 25 May 2020 17: 39
        -1
        Quote: 123
        But if Turkey, the Kurds, the United States have no competitors in territories controlled and freed from terrorists, then the Russian Federation does. And this is Iran.

        Are you sure? "Turkey, Kurds, USA" have no competitors? Have Turks and Kurds already agreed and made peace? They will not be able to come to an agreement with each other, and then there are overseas "oilmen", the Kurds also consider the oil fields their own. And Iran is not a competitor to them? Is this the one that promised to launch rockets at the Turks in Idlib? And the Iranians have no contradictions with the Americans?

        Steering somehow will not work. One must leave.

        Absolutely. good There is a legitimate government and Russian troops there at his invitation. The rest should go.

        No need to juggle. In those territories controlled by Turkey, there will not be a single Kurd. This will be a security zone separate from the Kurdish areas of responsibility. Like a security fence separating Israel from the Palestinian Authority. Nor should we exaggerate the role of Iran - the enemy of all Sunni Arab countries, Israel and the United States. And obviously not a friend of Russia. Read L. Shebarshin's "The Hand of Moscow" or Vinogradov's "Our Middle East". The first author is the head of the PGU of the KGB of the USSR, the second is the USSR ambassador to Iran.
        And what about the "legitimate" government of Assad. This is ridiculous. Dad came to power as a result of a coup, that is, illegally .. Then, on the one hand, and his relatives (brothers and uncles), on the other, unleashed a civil war for power. At the request ... You still remember Babrak Karmal, at whose "request" the USSR entered Afghanistan. Although the request was voiced from Tashkent.
        Read the memoirs of the chief military adviser of the USSR Ministry of Defense in Afghanistan A. Mayorov, a very decent monograph about the Afghan war of Guy and Snegirev "Invasion". Yes. And read about the Assad family. They are invariably included among all Russian authors in the 100 great dictators. And most importantly, remember the beautiful Russian parable about a sparrow who fell into sewage and a cat that passed by. And the conclusion from this parable. )
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 25 May 2020 18: 06
          +3
          No need to juggle. In those territories controlled by Turkey, there will not be a single Kurd.

          Do Kurds know? The Turks in their territory can not pacify them for many years.

          It will be a security zone, separated from Kurdish zones of responsibility. Like a security fence separating Israel from the Palestinian Authority.

          I saw your fence. What's the point of him? Does he help with missiles? I also know two "great" fence builders, Trump and Yatsenyuk. Drugs and migrants in the United States come on an industrial scale, and I think it’s not worth talking about Ukraine.

          Do not exaggerate the role of Iran - the enemy of all Sunni Arab countries, Israel and the United States.

          And where did I exaggerate? In my opinion, I approach the assessment quite rationally. You can convince yourself that Iran can’t do anything, but fact is a fact. Iran, despite the pressure, is becoming stronger militarily as well.

          And obviously not a friend of Russia.

          Did I say somewhere that Iran is our friend? belay In politics, there are no friends at all, there are interests.

          And what about the "legitimate" government of Assad. This is ridiculous. Dad came to power as a result of a coup, that is, illegally

          Dad, perhaps, as a result of the coup, but he himself as a result of the elections. Coups become a rarity? From recent examples, Ecuador with Ukraine and Egypt, Turkey almost succeeded. By the way, when do separatists from the USA intend to return to the Queen’s arm?

          Then, on the one hand, and his relatives (siblings and uncles) on the other, they unleashed a civil war for power. By request ...

          Is it Israel? belay I do not believe. request

          You still remember Babrak Karmal, at whose "request" the USSR entered Afghanistan. Although the request was voiced from Tashkent.

          In this case, the request was made in Damascus. To the Americans and the pack of "sixes", where was the request voiced? Since Afghanistan is remembered, when will the occupation end? How much will the Afghan people suffer for the crimes of the Saudis?

          And most importantly, remember the beautiful Russian parable about the sparrow, which fell into the sewage and the cat passing by. And the conclusion from this parable)

          The conclusion is simple. yes The situation in the Middle East is complex and will remain so in the future. As practice shows, the "hegemon" easily "throws" allies. You should be quiet.
  6. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 25 May 2020 16: 43
    +2
    Russia developed its success in the Middle East between 2015 and 2020. She actively intervened in Syrian affairs, intimidating Americans with new missiles and selling her air defense systems around the world, including to a NATO member, Turkey.

    Moscow is consistent in supporting its allies, whether it be South Ossetia, the DPR or Assad in Syria, but its efforts are not very successful. Assad’s political regime is running out of steam, and the consequences of his victories in 2018 and 2019 are no longer so obvious.

    That is, they acted successfully and suddenly the last 5 months everything became very bad. What is this expressed in? Her efforts, it turns out, are not so successful, and Assad is tired, and again, everything is not obvious.
    Here’s your evaluation criterion, belay the author does not like, well, not convincingly, and that’s it. request
    Yes, I almost forgot, you still have to choose the "right side", this is where the ally is constantly thrown.

    The Jerusalem Post advises Moscow to choose a specific side and adhere to a clear plan, rather than trying to maintain an all-for-all brand.

    In a burst of immense gratitude, I will also give advice to The Jerusalem Post staff, it is not too late to return to the traditional craft, there will always be a demand for dates.
  7. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 May 2020 18: 29
    -3
    "Bite off too much": Israeli media about the problems of the Russian Federation in the Middle East

    - Here is a riddle "Doesn't bark, doesn't bite ... - but doesn't let it into the house" ... - But for whom it will become an allegory ... - For Russia ... - hardly ...
    - Yes, the whole trouble is that Russia in Syria does not bite anyone off anyone ... - Russia is constantly trying to portray universal justice; then universal heroism; then universal humanism; then universal generosity and donation ... - And recently - and so on ... - joint cooperation (and patrolling) with ... with ... with those with whom you have to behave very harshly ...
    - So where is the nibble then ??? Most likely, it is Russia that shows a kind of "donation" when it allows you to bite off whole kusmans from its own interests ... And these kusmans (pieces) from Russian interests have already been liked by many ... ...
  8. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
    Wanderer039 25 May 2020 21: 44
    +1
    More often than not, Putin needs to read Krylov and Mikhalkov’s fables, and not listen to his pseudo-effective managers, who have overwhelmed almost everything they touched ... You won’t please all your friends, you’ll only harm yourself ...
  9. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 26 May 2020 01: 43
    +3
    The God-chosen people were promised to exist until the second coming and this puts an end to the plans of their "fighters", but the Russians have never engaged in genocide of anyone. And if in all conscience, these guys "have not" gotten themselves in the hands of others "for a long time, the shores are beginning to get confused, they think a lot about themselves. However, you can look "up" and look at the "helmsmen" here, and there, and here.
  10. Roarv Offline Roarv
    Roarv (Robert) 26 May 2020 08: 50
    +2
    "Competently" the Jews study the opinion of the people towards the Syrian war, and sow the seeds of discord within our country ....
    But here's the catch. If you surrender Syria and give the territory to Israel, the United States and the company, the gas and oil pipe will crawl to the EU continent instantly, and then - goodbye to the export of hydrocarbons to Russia. Everyone understands and realizes everything, so everything is serious, there is no need to bring the "Russians" into the picture, in this case they are desperate, savvy and selfless ...