The Czechs are outraged by the desecration of a monument to Czechoslovak legionnaires in Russia

15 May 2020 57

The Czech Embassy in the Russian Federation protests the desecration in Chelyabinsk of a monument to Czechoslovak legionnaires - participants in the Civil War in Russia 1917-1922. On May 4, unknown vandals hit the monument several times with a sledgehammer, as a result of which it was damaged.

The statement of the Czech side indicates that the criminals desecrated not only the memorial site, but also the mass grave of 262 legionnaire soldiers. Outraged Czechs emphasized that those responsible for vandalism must be found and punished. Official Prague hopes that Russia will continue to fulfill its obligations to care for military burial places - a corresponding document was signed between Russia and the Czech Republic in 1999.

A monument to Czechoslovak soldiers was installed in Chelyabinsk in 2011. On the monument - the inscription:

To the legionnaires of Czechoslovakia who died on the way to their free Motherland.

Recall, on April 3, 2020, in Prague, the authorities dismantled a monument to the liberator of the Czech capital from German invaders, Marshal Ivan Konev, which outraged the Russian public. In response to the removal of the monument from the pedestal, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case under the article for defiling the symbols of Russia's military glory committed in public.

The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, pointed out that this act is contrary to the 1993 Treaty on Friendly Relations and Cooperation.

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alexandrmakedo

+26

15 May 2020 18: 36

The Yeltsinoids have completely gone mad. To erect monuments to the executioners of Russian peasants.
To bring to hell all this nonsense. Use the occasion of the demolition of the monument to our Marshal.
1. Observer2014
  
  -24
  
  15 May 2020 22: 44
  
  Elcinoids
  
  And those who support you. Please answer clearly and clearly who they are! Surnames in order. you are welcome! Here, instead of mumbling the absurd in response to me, poorly mention the names of your "Yeltsinoids". Forward! Let's go first! ...
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2. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
  +4
  
  15 May 2020 22: 50
  
  And it is possible without cause - demolished - which means it must be so!
  1. Akuzenka
    
    0
    
    18 May 2020 15: 15
    
    Yes, as a relic of the totalitarian era of Yeltsin! Well, you can only dream.
3. Egor 7b7
  
  +10
  
  15 May 2020 23: 18
  
  The main eltsinoid is a bald guarantor who trades RUSSIA left and right. A normal leader would have long demolished Polish, Czech and other monuments in revenge for the desecration of our fallen grandfathers.
  1. bobba94
    
    +5
    
    16 May 2020 14: 59
    
    In Chelyabinsk, a monument to legionaries was erected during the presidency of DAM. They didn’t give him much will, but when he escaped from custody for periods, he managed to shorten everything ....... Some would like to think, read, analyze, and then pour out their indignation.
    1. Tatyana
      
      +5
      
      16 May 2020 15: 45
      
      But this composition of 10 greenhouses on the monument that depicts and symbolizes itself?
      
      Kolchak's "Ice Campaign" in 1920? When the Czechoslovak corps, well-fed and in hot Russian heating units, skied from Russia to Japan - together with the gold reserve of the Republic of Ingushetia, which they contracted with Kolchak to protect and betrayed Kolchak in their selfish interests ?! While the "white" Kolchak people, together with the local population, froze and died in the cold and hunger and died in the hundreds, also making their way on foot along the railroad to the Russian border.
    2. Bitter
      
      +1
      
      17 May 2020 20: 44
      
      installed during the presidency of DAM. They didn’t give him much will, but when he escaped from custody for periods, he managed ...
      
      Oh yes, just the same "prisoner of the castle", and you can cry. Maybe he just ran trial balls and then watched together what and how? He is now not far, in a shadow, in an armchair.
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

+17

15 May 2020 18: 38

I would have demolished this monument altogether - these legionnaires fought against the Soviet regime!
1. King3214
  
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  15 May 2020 18: 48
  
  A monument to the victims of these legionnaires should be erected next to it. For historical justice.
  Here in the Crimea there is a monument to the deported Crimean Tatars, but there is no monument to the victims of the massacre organized by the Crimean Tatars to the local population and prisoners of the Red Navy and Red Army.
  And this logic of silence then gives rise to various myths and historical lies.
  1. Nick
    
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    15 May 2020 19: 13
    
    Quote: King3214
    Here in the Crimea there is a monument to the deported Crimean Tatars, but there is no monument to the victims of the massacre organized by the Crimean Tatars to the local population and prisoners of the Red Navy and Red Army.
    And this logic of silence then gives rise to various myths and historical lies.
  2. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
    
    +7
    
    15 May 2020 22: 44
    
    So, in the Crimea it is necessary to erect a monument to the Red Army soldiers who died in captivity! Nothing to be shy about!
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    2. Akuzenka
      
      0
      
      18 May 2020 15: 21
      
      What are you !!! What a monument !!!!!! The USSR and all its "atrocities" should be remembered by the slaves. Ask any LGBT person, he will tell you the whole truth. And he will be glad that in terms of education, medicine and other unnecessary social services, we are approaching the blessed year for all true patriots in 1913.
2. Fourth Horseman
  
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  15 May 2020 21: 45
  
  And then they handed Kolchak.))
  1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
    
    +1
    
    15 May 2020 22: 45
    
    But it is true!
3. alexey alexeyev_2
  
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  15 May 2020 21: 53
  
  Yes, they not only fought ... They stole the gold reserve of Russia ...
4. Bitter
  
  -1
  
  17 May 2020 20: 47
  
  The modern government is also against it, they just went the other way. But the “legionaries” still decided to remember and immortalize.
King3214

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15 May 2020 18: 45

Maybe the Czechs take this monument to themselves?
1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
  +2
  
  15 May 2020 22: 45
  
  Yes, let them take and roll.
123

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15 May 2020 19: 03

Vandalism is unacceptable, we are not barbarians. Measures to protect the monument and the search for the perpetrators should be taken.
As for the Czechs, we are waiting for the appeal of the Minister of Defense to Shoigu, unless, of course, they are interested in the fate of the monument.
The city hall of Chelyabinsk needs to be expanded, I hope a person with suitable views will be found there and will raise the issue of reducing the monument. For example, leave the graves, but the fate of the monument to question. Of course, there is no need to bring it to demolition, but letting Czech partners feel the urgency of the problem on their own skin would be extremely useful.
1. Akuzenka
  
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  18 May 2020 15: 27
  
  Why graves at the station ?! People should come to the city, not to the churchyard !!!!! Let them send to the Czech embassy, along with the monument, and at the site of the graveyard a public garden with benches.
  1. 123
    
    +2
    
    18 May 2020 15: 34
    
    Why graves at the station ?! People should come to the city, not to the churchyard !!!!! Let them send to the Czech embassy, along with the monument, and at the site of the graveyard a public garden with benches.
    
    This process has only to begin, there will be no end and edge to it. In response, there will be "oncoming" dispatches; during the war, you know, fighters were not always buried on the outskirts either. Don't disturb the dead.
Alexey Grigoryev

+6

15 May 2020 19: 09

Demolish this garbage, and transfer the territory to a children's center.
1. 123
  
  +9
  
  15 May 2020 20: 01
  
  Demolish this garbage, and transfer the territory to a children's center.
  
  The children's center at the grave is not the best solution. Or is normal land not enough for children?
2. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
  +7
  
  15 May 2020 22: 46
  
  Better for a free public toilet.
Rum rum

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15 May 2020 20: 53

Demolition is not necessary. Breaking and defiling is not necessary.
It is necessary to add: some composition, symbolizing the deeds of "these". There will be no violation of any agreements - the monument is intact, the graves are intact, and above them the "gallows" and the inscription: "The executioners of our people are buried here."
1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
  +6
  
  15 May 2020 22: 47
  
  And you can put a monument: Czech legionnaires dig gold in Russia (they stole half).
sharp-lad

+11

15 May 2020 21: 03

But what is the Czech Republic interfering in the internal affairs of Russia? !!!!!
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alexandrmakedo

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15 May 2020 22: 49

Quote: Rum Rum
Demolition is not necessary. Breaking and defiling is not necessary.
It is necessary to add: some composition, symbolizing the deeds of "these". There will be no violation of any agreements - the monument is intact, the graves are intact, and above them the "gallows" and the inscription: "The executioners of our people are buried here."

This is what real pioneers do. Silently from under the floor .... Unworthy.
It is better to decide, and in accordance with the decision, by adopting the appropriate law. And not at the level of a rural madman.
1. Bitter
  
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  17 May 2020 20: 55
  
  This is what real pioneers do. Silently from under the floor .... Unworthy.
  
  Well, yes, it became a pity for the pioneers. They are the current fathers of democracy in Russia.
  This should be done, like real Russian democrats. It is imperative to breed frantic activity at all legislative levels. To promise everyone everything and do nothing. And then say, they say themselves are to blame.
alexandrmakedo

+2

15 May 2020 22: 53

Quote: King3214
A monument to the victims of these legionnaires should be erected next to it. For historical justice.
Here in the Crimea there is a monument to the deported Crimean Tatars, but there is no monument to the victims of the massacre organized by the Crimean Tatars to the local population and prisoners of the Red Navy and Red Army.
And this logic of silence then gives rise to various myths and historical lies.

What the hell? Will we start competing again? Who is more helpful, and more beautiful? But does it not offend OUR people who died at the hands of these scoundrels? Nearby.
Survived completely out of my mind. Take it to hell. Our Marshal brought freedom to them, and these creatures - trouble. Compared ....
alexandrmakedo

+2

15 May 2020 22: 56

Quote: BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
better under a free public toilet

And this cannot be done. To remove is worthy. To scoff at the dead is vile.
Gennady1959

+2

15 May 2020 23: 26

It is necessary to distinguish between a military burial place and a monument. The regime of military graves is regulated by international treaties. Russia contains the burial places of Czechs. The Czechs contain the burial places of Russian soldiers who died since 1812 and they are kept in good condition. Do you want to give reason to abuse these graves? Monument to Konev - this is somewhat different. Monuments to V.I. Lenin stood in all cities of the USSR, but that does not mean that someone is buried under them. These monuments have a different legal regime. These are elements of ideology.
A very good idea is to place a monument to Russian people killed by Czechs (Hungarians, Romanians, etc.) nearby.
In general, it’s such an abomination to fight with monuments.
Judging by the films on Russian TV, public opinion is being prepared for the destruction of the memory of the feat of the Soviet people. Memory is destroyed step by step (evil communists, political instructors, special officers - good traitors, spies, saboteurs). Memory is removed brick by brick. If the memory is removed, the monuments will be removed. Have you seen a lot of monuments to the heroes of 1812, the heroes of the Russian-Turkish war, the Russian-Japanese, the First World War? Everything was erased. The Czechs are no one to us - a member of a military bloc hostile to Russia. Russian "cultural figures" are more terrible enemies.
Oleg Rambover

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16 May 2020 00: 13

According to the current treaty, the burial places of Soviet soldiers are kept by the Czech authorities, the burial places of Czechoslovakians are kept by the Russian authorities. The Czechs complain that, in fact, in Russia they also contain burials of these legionnaires. I hope porters understand the implications of realizing their dreams? Burials in the Czech Republic at best will cease to contain, at worst they will be demolished. Are the porters ready to pay that price?
1. meandr51
  
  +5
  
  17 May 2020 15: 56
  
  No need to equate bandits with liberators! Monuments to bandits and invaders on our earth should not be. If the Czechs dare to demolish Soviet monuments, then they will face cruel and inevitable punishment. It’s very dangerous to joke with Russia. Sometimes a sane government appears in it ...
  1. Oleg Rambover
    
    -3
    
    17 May 2020 16: 27
    
    Quote: meandr51
    No need to equate bandits with liberators! Monuments to bandits and invaders on our earth should not be.
    
    I suppose that some of the Czechs consider the invaders of Soviet soldiers, especially after the Prague spring.
    
    Quote: meandr51
    If the Czechs dare to demolish Soviet monuments, then they will face cruel and inevitable punishment. It’s very dangerous to joke with Russia. Sometimes a sane government appears in it ...
    
    Yes Yes Yes. They will inevitably express concern, will inevitably send a couple of notes. Didn’t forget anything?
    1. meandr51
      
      +1
      
      22 May 2020 17: 39
      
      You are just young and have not found a sane government ... As for the "part of the Czechs", all interested superpowers do not care about them alike. The only question is financial support.
      1. Oleg Rambover
        
        -4
        
        22 May 2020 22: 51
        
        Quote: meandr51
        You are just young and did not find a sane government ...
        
        It is interesting what? I found the race for the hearse, Andropov’s speeches with Chernenko, I don’t remember, but I remember Brezhnev, in my opinion he also does not pull on the sane ruler, at least at the end of his term.
        
        Quote: meandr51
        As for the "part of the Czechs", all interested superpowers do not care about them.
        
        Superpowers? You speak as if there are more than one. I think that these "superpowers" "equally do not care" about "a part of Russians, Ukrainians, Uzbeks, Georgians", etc.
        The question was what the Russian Federation can do, I bet that nothing but the above.
Serge Tixiy

+6

16 May 2020 07: 43

And the inscription should have been something like this - "Legionnaires of Czechoslovakia, executioners and murderers who robbed Russia during the turmoil."
Potapov

+3

16 May 2020 08: 44

No need to defile. They have so much Russian blood that you need to bear ...
alex-sherbakov48

+4

16 May 2020 08: 57

Our Marshal Konev, who liberated Prague, was overthrown, and their disadvantages all the more must be overthrown, because they have the blood of our people on their hands !!!
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Dust

+3

16 May 2020 11: 08

In Russia, over 35 monuments were erected by Czech interventionists. The Czechs want to bring up to 52 monuments throughout Siberia and the Far East. In response to the demolition of the Konev monument, all these Czech obelisks must be transferred to the Far North on Sobachy Island. There they belong. Europe is doing exactly the same in relation to our monuments (Baltic, Poland, Romania ....)
1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
  +1
  
  16 May 2020 19: 10
  
  It’s too expensive to transfer to the Far North to Sobachy Island, we bulldozed them.
Yuri Mikhailovsky

0

16 May 2020 16: 41

Use a reason.

Not about, but within the meaning of this complex.
meandr51

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17 May 2020 15: 52

Clear this misunderstanding immediately! And to bring a claim against the Czech Republic for damages for banditry during the civil war, and also to demand the return of the entire gold reserve of the Russian Empire, taken out by these "legionaries". Do they want a psychological and economic war with Russia? They'll get it!
alexandrmakedo

+3

17 May 2020 21: 03

Quote: GENNADY1959
It is necessary to distinguish between a military burial place and a monument. The regime of military graves is regulated by international treaties. Russia contains the burial places of Czechs. The Czechs contain the burial places of Russian soldiers who died since 1812 and they are kept in good condition. Do you want to give reason to abuse these graves? Monument to Konev - this is somewhat different. Monuments to V.I. Lenin stood in all cities of the USSR, but that does not mean that someone is buried under them. These monuments have a different legal regime. These are elements of ideology.
A very good idea is to place a monument to Russian people killed by Czechs (Hungarians, Romanians, etc.) nearby.
In general, it’s such an abomination to fight with monuments.
Judging by the films on Russian TV, public opinion is being prepared for the destruction of the memory of the feat of the Soviet people. Memory is destroyed step by step (evil communists, political instructors, special officers - good traitors, spies, saboteurs). Memory is removed brick by brick. If the memory is removed, the monuments will be removed. Have you seen a lot of monuments to the heroes of 1812, the heroes of the Russian-Turkish war, the Russian-Japanese, the First World War? Everything was erased. The Czechs are no one to us - a member of a military bloc hostile to Russia. Russian "cultural figures" are more terrible enemies.

So we should dismantle communist nonsense with proletarian solidarity and brotherhood of peoples. Removing from ideology that which prevents one from looking at neighbors is not biased. The Czechs fought against us, arming Germany. And this should be discussed not only here, but also in history lessons at school. The French squadron "Normandy" - these are tears compared to the divisions of the French who fought against us. Brothers are Bulgarians, they ALWAYS fought against us or our allies. All of Europe .....
And to begin to clean not only historical dislocations, but also our Earth.
No one except us has the right to erect monuments on our land. And no one has the right to lead - where to rent, and where to deliver.
Let them erect their monuments at home.
If they are SO related to ours, then let them not expect another relationship from us.
alexandrmakedo

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17 May 2020 21: 17

Quote: Dust
In Russia, over 35 monuments were erected by Czech interventionists. The Czechs want to bring up to 52 monuments throughout Siberia and the Far East. In response to the demolition of the Konev monument, all these Czech obelisks must be transferred to the Far North on Sobachy Island. There they belong. Europe is doing exactly the same in relation to our monuments (Baltic, Poland, Romania ....)

But isn’t our land there? To remove. Level, and as the steppe conquerors did, drive off the herd of horses, evening without a trace. In the absence of a sufficient number of horses, drive off bulldozers.
1. Wanderer039
  
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  18 May 2020 19: 59
  
  It is better to arrange a pigsty at this place. This will be a worthy burial place for Hitler's litter !!!
alexandrmakedo

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17 May 2020 21: 19

Quote: Oleg Rambover
Quote: meandr51
No need to equate bandits with liberators! Monuments to bandits and invaders on our earth should not be.

I suppose that some of the Czechs consider the invaders of Soviet soldiers, especially after the Prague spring.

Quote: meandr51
If the Czechs dare to demolish Soviet monuments, then they will face cruel and inevitable punishment. It’s very dangerous to joke with Russia. Sometimes a sane government appears in it ...

Yes Yes Yes. They will inevitably express concern, will inevitably send a couple of notes. Didn’t forget anything?

To please the fascist scoundrels, will we show tolerance?
alexandrmakedo

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17 May 2020 21: 21

Quote: Oleg Rambover
According to the current treaty, the burial places of Soviet soldiers are kept by the Czech authorities, the burial places of Czechoslovakians are kept by the Russian authorities. The Czechs complain that, in fact, in Russia they also contain burials of these legionnaires. I hope porters understand the implications of realizing their dreams? Burials in the Czech Republic at best will cease to contain, at worst they will be demolished. Are the porters ready to pay that price?

Well, okay. As we say, we will hit opoy about opu and see who will fly off further.
1. Oleg Rambover
  
  -4
  
  22 May 2020 22: 59
  
  Quote: aleksandrmakedo
  Okay. As we say, we will hit opoy about opu and see who will fly off further.
  
  I don’t know how you do in Ukraine, but in Russia they don’t say that, well, maybe only in certain circles, I don’t know there.
Akuzenka

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18 May 2020 15: 13

To the legionnaires of Czechoslovakia who died on the way to their free Motherland.

This "freedom" was paid for with Russian blood and more than once. And who is it interesting to provoke the civil war in 1918? Hey, Czechs! Who killed civilians in Siberia, like the Nazis a little later ?! Czechs, eh? Remove the burial ground from the Chelyabinsk station and send it to their homeland.
Wanderer039

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18 May 2020 19: 57

It’s high time to demolish the Nazis’s monuments, and send those who gave permission to put them in prison bunk !!!
alexandrmakedo

0

22 May 2020 23: 43

Quote: Oleg Rambover
Quote: aleksandrmakedo
Okay. As they say, we will hit opoy against opu and see who will fly away further.

I don’t know how you do in Ukraine, but in Russia they don’t say that, well, maybe only in certain circles, I don’t know there.

Such Russians, with such views on their homeland, need to be hung on birches. Better at once on two. As we in Russia did with traitors.
1. Oleg Rambover
  
  -4
  
  23 May 2020 15: 54
  
  I don’t know how you do in Russia, but in Russia we don’t hang about 1000 years from the time of Prince Igor (I don’t know if he was a traitor). E-mine, are you 73 years old? And are you really from Lviv? You need to run after your grandchildren, and not dream of gallows. I ask you, do not answer my comments anymore, otherwise I won’t hold back, I’ll write something in response, and then I will be tormented by the conscience that I spoke with an elderly person like that. Nervousness is again harmful. Take care of yourself.
barsuk50mail.ru

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23 May 2020 08: 44

It would be more correct to say - not to Czech legionnaires, but to white-covers. And the monument really needs to be demolished.
alexandrmakedo

0

23 May 2020 17: 21

Quote: Oleg Rambover
I don’t know how you do in Russia, but in Russia we don’t hang about 1000 years from the time of Prince Igor (I don’t know if he was a traitor). Emoe, are you 73 years old? And are you really from Lviv? You need to run after your grandchildren, and not dream of gallows. I ask you, do not answer my comments anymore, otherwise I won’t hold back, I’ll write something in response, and then I will be tormented by the conscience that I spoke with an elderly person like that. Nervousness is again harmful. Take care of yourself.

Read the story. Even as they hung. Shkuro, Krasnova, and others. Skills remained.
And for you, to prove your Russianness, it would be nice to learn how to write correctly in your native language, for so many years not to learn ..... It is necessary to be not just an ignoramus, but an ignoramus squared.