European media: What is wrong with mortality in Russia from coronavirus?

13 May 2020 11

Experts from some European media are puzzled why, at the current high rate of incidence of a new virus in Russia, the percentage of deaths is so low. Spanish El Pais analyzed the situation with COVID-19 in the Russian Federation.

According to Johns Hopkins University, there are 232 deaths out of 243 cases in the country, that is, the mortality rate is about 2116%. Russian authorities said the decisive role in the fight against the disease was played by the rapid closure of borders, as well as mandatory quarantine measures for all arrivals from abroad in March. However, the number of daily coronavirus diseases still remains high - about 0,91.

The head of the Russian Ministry of Health Mikhail Murashko pointed out that self-isolation measures, as well as planned BCG vaccinations that have been done in the Russian Federation and in some other countries since the days of the USSR, helped to reduce mortality. WHO experts, however, argue that there is no direct evidence of the positive effects of such vaccinations on coronavirus.

Some experts nevertheless question the number of deaths. The fact is that in the death registration protocols transmitted by the regions to the Ministry of Health, it is often indicated that a person died not from a coronavirus, but from a concomitant illness. And such mortality does not fall into the official statistics of deaths from a new virus, the media is sure.

A case in point is Valentina Zubareva, a 79-year-old teacher from Moscow. On March 16, the woman was sent to intensive care; on March 19, she died. Zubareva was sick with coronavirus, but she also suffered from diabetes and heart disease. The cause of death was called a detached blood clot.

Demographer Aleksey Raksha, in turn, believes that the "real" list of deaths from COVID-19 is at least five times higher than the official, since there is practically no posthumous analysis of the bodies of the dead. Raksha says that the full picture of the mortality from the virus will become clear only after a year, when Rosstat will provide updated data on the number of deaths, and it will be possible to analyze the mortality schedule, as was done in Spain and in other countries.

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Nikolay Malyugin

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13 May 2020 13: 31

Russia, unlike EU members, no one will pay for the damage from mortality. Of course, in a year or two everything will be clear who died of what. But I must say, our mentality is different. And often people in the West are indecently liberated.
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
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  14 May 2020 09: 01
  
  Paying for mortality damage in the EU? What is this new myth?) And what:
  
  .. people in the West are indecently liberated.
  
  - it's true. Therefore, it is difficult to stop the epidemic.
Sergey Latyshev

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13 May 2020 14: 51

Yes. They told friends: you suspect a virus? - do the test at your own expense ...
Oyo Sarkazmi

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13 May 2020 14: 53

Where they treat - mortality is low. Where they find out who will pay for treatment, mortality is high.
Another point - if compensation is paid for death from a coronavirus (not from insurance companies), all deaths fall into the coronavirus.
As soon as US hospitals began to subsidize patients with coronavirus (13 thousand for a "normal" patient, 40 thousand - 96 hours of mechanical ventilation, 5 thousand - funeral), the incidence per day became five-digit, and the mortality rate from coronavirus was 80% of all deaths (apparently, only car accidents were eliminated).
123

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13 May 2020 15: 41

Demographer Aleksey Raksha, in turn, believes that the “real” list of deaths from COVID-19 is at least five times higher than the official, since there is practically no posthumous analysis of the bodies of the dead.

He took an interest in what kind of demographer he was and found on Gazprom Radio Station.

Raksha says that the full picture of mortality from the virus will become clear only after a year, when Rosstat will provide updated data on the number of deaths, and it will be possible to analyze the mortality schedule, as was done in Spain and in other countries.

Very strange statement. In Spain and "other countries", presumably, the epidemic ended a year ago? Or "light-faced" do not need data clarification? You have to understand, only in our Mordor no accounting is kept.
As for the mortality rate, I would also have suspicions in their place. The difference is huge, but the "recipe" is not known. I here once compared with Belarus, they are even better at it, like a riddle. Apparently, one cannot do without delving into statistics, it is necessary to compare the number of "severe" patients.
sharp-lad

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13 May 2020 18: 09

Why record a death from a virus for a person who has died from a heart attack? And also, is it not better to use tests for the living, and not to confirm or not confirm the death from SOVID-19?
Maxim727

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14 May 2020 03: 36

In Spain, for example, as in some other countries, those who have found antibodies from coronavirus are not included in the statistics of the number of people infected with the virus. And in the Russian statistics include everyone. That is, Spanish statistics are crafty. Well, different percentages of mortality are obtained - we have less percent of deaths than they have. But if the Spaniards count everyone and those who have found antibodies, then the% mortality rate may coincide.
riwas

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14 May 2020 04: 42

In the United States, there are many who are full, and this is a risk factor: diabetes, cardiovascular.
In Russia, life expectancy is less, especially for peasants, and accordingly, people at risk are less.
Valentine

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14 May 2020 12: 18

No need to compare us with flimsy Europeans. We live in completely different climatic conditions, lead a completely different way of life for centuries, and for the most part we eat from which these vaunted Europeans would have died long ago. So we have long developed immunity to all kinds of foot and mouth disease, swine-chicken flu, and other coronaviruses. We are still a strong nation. But now you look at our youth, and you see that our children are turning, in their Euro-image and Euro-like, into some kind of European weakness.
Vladimir Androsov_2

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14 May 2020 21: 36

Low mortality from the virus in Russia haunts educated Europeans and Americans. Well, then, the countries of the free world, the elite of mankind so liquidly managed. They forgot how to think and think, arguing that we have a real mortality rate 5 times higher, they did not even bother to find mass graves, mobile morgues, or at worst, ice palaces where the corpses of those who died from coronavirus lie. A very alarming symptom, the degradation of the Western expert community and journalism is obvious. This situation reminds the USSR of the late 70s, in the country of euphoria, they were preparing to accept the Olympiad, and the watch had already begun a countdown. How it all ended, we all remember, but our Western partners don’t read books, they don’t study history. You don’t need Wang’s predictions to predict the agony of such a community, learn the latest history, gentlemen, draw the right conclusions, then you will have a chance to avoid the logical outcome.
T. Hanks

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15 May 2020 09: 18

The share of Gazprom mongrels is heavy. Yes, even with the names of either the third or the fifth in a row. The echo of Moscow even writes down from old age in those killed by the virus. Lie, so Goebbels.