“Your revolution is long over!”: Germany reacted to the demolition of the Konev monument in Prague

The head of the German-Russian Museum in Berlin, Jörg Morre, reacted to the demolition of the monument to Soviet Marshal Konev in Prague, according to the Czech publication iROZHLAS.

In Berlin today, this is unthinkable. In 1990, at the time of unification, the Federal Republic of Germany undertook to care for all the monuments erected in memory of the Second World War, even on which Stalin's quotes are engraved in gold letters.

In Berlin, we have removed some of the monuments. For example, a monument to Lenin, which we dismantled back in 1991. But, on the other hand, there are laws in Germany that guarantee the safety of Soviet military monuments. Nothing is dismantled because contracts are being implemented

- explained the director of the museum.

For example, the Germans cherish the large-scale 13-meter monument of the Red Army in the Treptov area, where the remains of seven thousand Soviet soldiers are also located.

Every year the monument is cleaned, and every five years - restored. We really care for him

- he stressed.

In principle, I, as a historian, consider it right when historical traces are not eliminated. As a historian, I never considered it right to demolish monuments

- he considers.

Morre is sure that the local authorities could have preserved the Konev monument in Prague by providing it with an information plate or even a sculpture placed next to it. But he understands the emotions that led to the dismantling of this monument. He considers the role of Konev and the Red Army in liberating Prague at the end of that war ambiguous.

The Red Army, of course, it was important not only to free the city, but also to occupy it. And it's not just about 1945

- believes Morre.

Konev in the Czech Republic was criticized for the suppression of the Hungarian uprising in 1956 and for the fact that in 1968 he was personally preparing for the invasion of the Warsaw Pact troops in Czechoslovakia.

But Morre is convinced that removing the monument to Konev was not the best decision, because now is not a turning point (revolution) in history, when the demolition of the symbols of the old regime is normal.

In 1945, national socialist symbols could be eliminated. Of course, that was as it should be. But your revolution is long over

- he summed up, referring to the Czechs.
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  1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
    A.Lex 12 May 2020 19: 59
    There are some ambiguous statements from him, this is him. figure:
    - then he says that you can’t demolish monuments,
    - then he says that it is necessary to put explanatory tablets (or sculptures also explaining ... sculptures WHAT explain?)
    I have an unequivocal opinion: THERE WAS THEM (Czechs) to leave to the rolling group of the remaining Nazis (and this is about a MILLION bayonets) who were eager to surrender to the Anglo-American troops. And do not respond to their calls and put our warriors for the sake of these ungrateful pigs!
    And these are the ungrateful pigs. There is no other name for them. For THEY CHANGED THE SOVIET TROOPS that HELP them recreate their OWN army, for the troops of the AMERICANS and the OCCUPATION ADMINISTRATION, WHICH HAVE ELIMINATED THEIR ARMY. How many troops do they have TODAY? 1987 - up to 201. Today, about 000 (including civilian employees) ... i.e. some auxiliary parts. That's all...
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter 12 May 2020 23: 47
      THEY CHANGED THE SOVIET TROOPS that HELP them to recreate their OWN army, for the troops

      What pathos does the button jam? Were you given these Czechs?
      They did not change anything, their format is not the same. yes
      He was the first and most honored representative of Russian democracy with his comrades to change everything, denigrating and abolishing the Soviet Union and surrendering all allies in Europe wholesale and retail. And now there is another democracy and the notes have changed too. So everything is logical.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex 16 May 2020 21: 56
        Gleb, I lived there and saw what it WAS for people ... There were as many normal and sane people as there were those who were ready to lie under measures ... These ALREADY were coded people ... Or maybe earlier , even before WWII - when they robbed the Russian people in Siberia and DESTROY part of the gold reserve of the Russian Empire (which Kolchak shared with them ... or maybe they took the entire reserve when they BID Kolchak). Otherwise, WHERE did they have funds for industrialization, in which the Czech Republic became the MOST industrially developed country in the territory where the rest of the countries and empires lay in ruins or fell into component parts. WHERE FROM BABY, ZIN ???
        1. Bitter Offline Bitter
          Bitter 17 May 2020 20: 31
          There were as many normal and sane as there were those who were ready to lie under measures ...

          Here you yourself answered. It was impossible to throw these "as many" to the mercy, over time, there would be fewer "those" others, and so on throughout Europe. There were options, but some turned to them with their fat, greedy and lazy ass.
          Now the flowers are blooming, and soon the berries will begin.
          1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex 20 May 2020 20: 54
            Gleb, you are not expressing a complaint to the address - Mishka, a labeled drunk with Borka, has all the complaints ... If it were my will, I would put both of them on the wall.
            1. Bitter Offline Bitter
              Bitter 21 May 2020 00: 25
              ... with Borka the drunk all claims ...

              Celestials are not my level, I expressed my disagreement in due time, as I managed.
              I have no complaints against the Czechs, as well as the Bulgarians, and I can’t spray my mouth with saliva, at the everyday level there are normal friendly people, there is much in common and there is something to remember.
              In the political arena of the 90s, the country, led by its will-beater and the main democrat of all Russia, has messed up so much in Eastern Europe that it will take a very long time to clean up. This is a fact and there is nothing to condemn everyone. It would be necessary to scratch a turnip and look for opportunities to change the situation in a positive direction. But at the "heavenly level" nobody is particularly interested in this and they have other priorities, otherwise they would have found both ways and means long ago.
          2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
            A.Lex 1 June 2020 08: 32
            Once again, these questions are not about my salary.
            1. Bitter Offline Bitter
              Bitter 1 June 2020 22: 16
              And my competence is not so great.
    2. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
      Astronaut (San Sanych) 13 May 2020 01: 39
      recreate OWN army

      They forgot about their "own" state.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex 16 May 2020 22: 06
        ... well then (before WWII) they already had their own state ... that's just the money they got from whence they were ONLY a fragment of A.-V. Empires - this is the question to ask! ..
        Well, plus you.
  2. ilik54 Offline ilik54
    ilik54 (ilik54) 13 May 2020 09: 14
    Eh, it was not necessary to leave Europe and unite Germany, and there would be nothing of this!
    It was not enough for the defeated countries to indicate to the victorious country how to behave and what to do, and the USA to appropriate our Victory and use its fruits as winners!
    They need to speak with Russia in a quiet voice, kneeling and bowing their heads, and only when we ask them, because they are alive only because we allow them to.
    But will Russian troops be returned to Europe? How to withdraw quickly, so quickly and enter! Business for one night, remember how they entered Czechoslovakia? It is necessary to count and close this topic in a businesslike way once and for all. And remember - this is not a war, but a compulsion to restore order in the minds of Europeans and Americans!
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter 14 May 2020 11: 30
      Will Russian troops be returned to Europe? How to withdraw quickly, so quickly and enter! Business for one night ...

      What are you forgetful. "Overnight", it was an internal showdown in the current system, and other countries of the Warsaw Pact took an active part in this showdown.
      During the liberation of the then territory of Czechoslovakia from the fascist regime, only the irretrievable losses of the SOVIET Army amounted to about 140 soldiers.
      Now the situation is completely different and Russia should not be confused with the USSR, its capabilities and infrastructures.
  3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 13 May 2020 10: 24
    The revolution is over. And Evolution is coming. If in CMEA they were among equal and equally respectful, with the revolution they became first free, then frightened, and then helpful. From the Czechs as a people - to the Czech Indians, on the Czech reservation. Deprived of their own foreign and military policies.
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter 14 May 2020 12: 01
      If in CMEA they were among equal and equally respectful,

      Did they dissolve the CMEA themselves? As far as I remember, they repeatedly offered constructive proposals for the reconstruction of the national economy and the further activities of the CMEA, only the GMC and the state-owned company were absolutely unnecessary, and BNE with its "fighters" was even less interesting. The result was a shock for years.

      with the revolution, they became at first free, then frightened, and then helpful.

      Rather, at first frightened, then helpful, but now they feel freedom. good
      It was necessary to work with the Czechs on this wave, and the Russian bureaucrats either did nothing in this direction, or vice versa, by their inaction indirectly encouraged pro-Nazi manifestations.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 14 May 2020 12: 46
        Quote: Bitter
        It was necessary to work with the Czechs on this wave

        With the Czechs, it was generally the dregs. They were the last allies of Hitler, another May 6, 1945 from the factories sent weapons to the Wehrmacht. And then the Soviet troops came ...
        1. Bitter Offline Bitter
          Bitter 14 May 2020 22: 58
          With the Czechs, it was generally the dregs.

          It was difficult, no doubt, but they convinced me. Even a little later, together with the same Germans, Poles, Bulgarians and others, they went to convince. Happened.

          And then they came ...

          And then they threw corny, and Czechs, and Germans, and little brothers, and all the rest. In the war of the 90s, cannonade in Europe was not heard, and tanks rumbled only by rail into the Volga steppes. It was more like surrender than a gesture of goodwill. After all, I’ll pick up Pozdorov, the USSR or Russia, on a regular withdrawal of troops and infrastructure was required at least three times longer. Accordingly, the American partners should also retreat synchronously. And Europe would remain free from other people's warriors. good But it did not happen. So according to the results of that war, the Czechs again fell into another sphere of influence. They were formatted from one, into two countries and again learned to live in another system.
          So now resentment can only be formal. Therefore, there is no particular hype.
      2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex 16 May 2020 22: 09
        Gleb, what kind of "freedom"? They changed some owners to others, then to third ones. And now - on the fourth!
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex 16 May 2020 22: 08
      ... and the army as such ...
  4. Warrior Offline Warrior
    Warrior 13 May 2020 11: 08
    The Czechs are the same licking people as the Poles ... they just need to be sent away, like the Poles.
  5. Aleksandr10 Offline Aleksandr10
    Aleksandr10 (Alexander Finashin) 13 May 2020 16: 25
    All questions to Gorbachev M.S. He is still alive and an honorary citizen in Germany.
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter 14 May 2020 12: 35
      And also, first of all, he is an honored order bearer and a respected citizen of Russia. The carrier of American, Polish, French and many other medals and badges, winner of dozens of prizes, an honorary doctor of all kinds of sciences at many universities. In general, he is a man of peace and is not offended by his power.
      I wonder why the monument has not yet been erected somewhere in Stavropol, Terrazini or El Paso?
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex 16 May 2020 22: 11
      Sanya, the horses will soon move - a little of this nits stomp the earth left.
  6. Vlad Petrov Offline Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 13 May 2020 16: 46
    The Czechs not only demolished the monument to the savior of the lives of Prague residents Marshal Ivan Konev, but also desecrated the pedestal, installing a toilet on May 9 on Victory Day. This is a blatant, vile insult to the honor and dignity of not only the memory of Soviet soldiers - liberators, but also the honor of Russia, the army of the Russian Federation, the successor to the Red Army (RKKA). And it’s very a shame to hear from the authorities constantly only the words of “concern” to humiliate Russia.
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter 14 May 2020 12: 55
      ... desecrated the pedestal by installing a toilet on May 9 on Victory Day.

      It's a shame that it boils inside. But, figuratively, the fathers of Russian democracy and this savior of lives, and many, many others with the then commander-in-chief of the Red Army at the head, were poured there.

      successors to the Red Army (Red Army)

      Yes, yes, we ourselves, and the Czechs and the Poles, saw how these banners, democrats and new Russians, in the nineties nagged and hid in the corners. So there are obvious inconsistencies with the "legal successor", although the striped Russian moisture has already been painted on over the Reichstag of the 45th. So it's not surprising. We write ourselves, we tear and rewrite ourselves, and then we are offended that others do not have time and begin to draw their own art. recourse
  7. antchar Offline antchar
    antchar (Anatoly) 14 May 2020 09: 22
    We must not blah blah, but reduce the level of diplomatic relations to consular ones, recalling the ambassador.
    Or instruct the ambassador in Slovakia to act as ambassador in the Czech Republic.