From “Armata” to S-400, Russians have everything bad: What is behind the Chinese attacks on the Russian Federation


Recently, the media of the Celestial Empire have been extremely suspicious of the increasingly sharp attacks on various types of Russian weapons (we have already written about some of them on our resource). Being evaluated in their totality, these frank “stuffing” creates a distinct impression of a well-coordinated information campaign pursuing very specific goals.


It would seem that there is no cooling of relations, especially since there is no conflict between Moscow and Beijing. As far as we know, the Chinese comrades today are preparing for an extremely fierce confrontation just with the United States. Why, then, frankly, such unfriendly steps?

From "Almaty" to S-400: Russians have "everything is bad"


It should be noted a rather strange feature - starting to intensely inflate the negative about various products of our domestic defense industry (mainly the latest and most promising products), Chinese experts and journalists suddenly show an unprecedented unanimity with their American counterparts. On all other issues, the situation is exactly the opposite - it is worth someone in the US to say: “black”, in the Middle Kingdom they immediately begin to say: “white”! And here it’s straightforward “choral singing” in a coordinated duet ... Take for example the story of the Armata T-14 tank and its either real, or, say, somewhat fantastic “trials in Syria”. The start of heated debate on this topic was given by a statement made on television by the Russian Minister of Industry Denis Manturov, who directly stated: “Yes, it was!” Later, American “know-it-alls” joined the topic and began to poison stories about the allegedly “huge problems” identified in the latest tanks, their “vulnerability in battle” and even the “destruction” of one armored vehicle. Since no one bothered to present any evidence to all these fabrications of the most respectable public, one could forget about them, but here the Chinese comrades actively joined in the matter. We must give them their due - obviously, due to the rich intriguing traditions of the East, they operate much thinner than straightforward Americans. It seems that they do not write frank filth, but, nevertheless, the general conclusion that should remain with the audience after reading their opuses comes down to the idea: "All the latest Russian weapons are a bluff and nothing else." It is to this conclusion, sparing no effort, the media of the Celestial Empire are bringing their readers.

For example, the Sina edition allows itself to express the opinion that "the Russians again staged a show." On the one hand, it is emphasized that there is no significant confirmation of the presence of "Armata" in Syria, on the other hand, American fables about the "defeat and shame" allegedly befell the T-14 there are quoted. As a result, Chinese journalists not only declare that “the loss of at least one such tank will seriously undermine the reputation of Russia,” but they immediately begin to draw very characteristic parallels: they say, “Armata” in Syria is just as “irrelevant and useless as the multipurpose Su- 57 ". The authors of Sina consider his stay in this theater of military operations to be either a "show" or even a "joke before the international community", stating (based on information from unknown sources) that this combat vehicle "was not tested there even when applied bomb strikes ". And this is what is characteristic: suddenly transferring the conversation from the T-14 to the Su-57, the Chinese again find themselves "on the same side of the barricades" with those experts in the United States who, without sparing their vocal chords, are trying to prove to the whole world that this fighter is "a failure project ”, which will never be fully implemented by Russia. This topic is elaborated very carefully by The National Interest. At the same time, the publication (what a weirdness!) As an alternative - that is, a successful development in this area, "carried out in a reasonable time", leads ... "the first Chinese serial fighter of the fifth generation J-20". The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising the cuckoo ?! Moreover, as a "lethal argument" in favor of their own derogatory opinion about the newest Russian fighter, the authors of The National Interest consider what China "refused to call a fifth-generation fighter, referring it to the 4 +++ generation"! What a touching agreement ... However, finally everything falls into place, it is worth familiarizing yourself with the writings of Chinese authors about another "flagship" model of domestic weapons - the Triumph air defense system.

“Smart buy Chinese!”


The Sohu news agency undertook to “unwind” this topic with all possible scope, according to which the real combat capabilities of our famous S-400 systems are “very overestimated,” and indeed they are, in fact, “useless”. The authors, without reference to any official test data, undertake to declare that, in fact, Russian air defense systems are capable of detecting air targets “only” for 500-570 kilometers instead of the stated 600, which is 5-17% lower than the official performance characteristics of Triumphs. Moreover, they are also “incapable of hitting the entire spectrum of potential goals that are available today,” and they are, you see, “prohibitively expensive.” All this, as they say, is a "saying". Actually, the "fairy tale", intended for none other than potential buyers of modern air defense and missile defense systems, begins with the moment that Sohu confidentially informs readers about the alleged "refusal of a number of countries to acquire Russian S-400s." The most successful example is Saudi Arabia, which, according to Chinese journalists, “preferred the Chinese air defense system to the Chinese - Hongqi 22”. This is followed by the usual Eastern attempt to “sweeten the pill”, which consists in the assertion that “the S-400 is excellent, but hardly more advanced than the Hongqi 22 air defense system,” except that it “slightly exceeds its range.” Therefore, choosing Riyadh is a “pretty smart decision,” conclude Sohu. Here is the answer to all your questions! When we read in the Chinese mass media that the “devastating” articles about Russian weapons are becoming more categorical and categorical, we have before us nothing more than a widespread marketing campaign expansive of all the celestial powers and powers of China! “Nothing personal - only business” - this, obviously, the Chinese communists seized from the American capitalists in the process of excessively long and close communication with them.

In order to understand how true this statement is, it is enough to familiarize yourself with the recent report of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) on the growth of military spending in various countries over the past decade. According to this document, spending on armaments and armies on a planetary scale came close to the frightening figure of $ 2 trillion. One and a half of them fell on 15 states investing in the “defense industry” by orders of magnitude more than all the rest. In the first place, as you might guess, the United States stands with its 732 billion military budget for 2019. But on the second, China is firmly established. Its militaristic costs over the past decade have shown the largest growth among all countries in the world (by 85%). In fairness, by the way, it is worth noting that they have been moving up steadily and at an even faster pace, at least a quarter of a century ... Only during the past year, the Celestial defense spending increased by 5,1%, reaching the figure of 261 billion dollars and surpassing all of Western Europe, which together spent 10 billion dollars less than the Chinese for the same purpose. Beijing’s military spending accounts for 14% of the global total. Moreover, according to SIPRI experts, China not only entered the TOP-5 of the “world militarists” for the first time and took the second place, but also squeezed again the second position in the rating of arms exporters ... That's right, just Russia. Obviously, this is not enough for the Chinese comrades, here, tensing with all their might, they strive to completely push our country out of the reach of such attractive arms markets. In Beijing, they really do not like real, serious competitors, and, as we see, they do not stand on ceremony in choosing the means to deal with them.

As warriors, the Chinese are very inferior to the Russians, to put it mildly. China did not win any serious war, if the Soviet Union was not looming behind it. Yes, and from more ancient times, even the Russian Empire, one can also recall cases when the comparison is not at all in favor of the Celestial Empire. But in the matter of production and trade, the Chinese, perhaps, have no equal. Everything that is being done in China should be sold - this principle is strictly adhered to there, trying to mercilessly push those who interfere with its implementation from the attractive markets. This is done by desperate dumping, willingness to please the customer, well, and with the help of such extremely unscrupulous anti-advertising. Making a real breakthrough in weapons, Beijing simply could not help but concern itself over time with the goal of turning its exports into a profitable source of income. But here it is not the United States that stands in the way, but our country. The world, for the most part, has long been divided into countries that arm and equip their armies with NATO standards (primarily American), and those who prefer weapons and machinery, we will call a spade a spade, of the Soviet samples. After all, it is precisely the traditions of the military-industrial complex of the USSR that our country continues and develops today. In order to "squeeze" into this already tightly "demarcated" market, the Celestial Empire simply needs to squeeze one of the sides out of it. To compete with the United States (at least in this matter) is clearly a "gut". Therefore, it remains only to try to “squeeze” Russia and occupy its “niche”.

By the way, the example with the same “Armata” confirms this in the best way. Speaking about sending these tanks to Syria, Mr. Manturov, in fact, did not hide at all that it was not about the military need to crush the local undefeated "barmales" with caterpillars, but about preparing an "export passport" for this fighting vehicle. And who can become a potential buyer of tanks of this class and this value? Most likely, rich "oil" countries like the same Saudi Arabia, to whom such an acquisition can afford. However, it is very likely that the wealthy sheikhs "set their sights" on the military budgets in Beijing. Hence the whole informational "wave" ...

Trade is always competition, whether it’s smartphones, tomatoes or tanks with fighters. However, it will be very, very sorry if this issue makes not just rivals, but opponents, two countries that have a common and very serious foe - the United States with their unrequited claims to world domination.
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  1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 5 May 2020 09: 44
    -4
    All the latest Russian weapons are bluffs and nothing else.

    - this thesis is not refuted in any way ... soldier
    1. Perfectionist Offline Perfectionist
      Perfectionist 5 May 2020 11: 08
      -2
      And do not, weapons must be killed, not traded.
    2. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) 6 May 2020 09: 02
      +2
      It will be refuted in the usual way for Russia. Other West does not understand ...
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 May 2020 11: 13
    +2
    And competition, and everything is bad.

    Armat and Su-57 are still not in the troops, although the 3rd generation of Armat (or already the 4th?) Is already on parades
    Examples of lies and manipulations about under-rockets, torpedoes, lasers, and hypersounds make you think the same about the SU and the Armata, which is confirmed by the (rare) reservations of military officials ...
    1. Perfectionist Offline Perfectionist
      Perfectionist 5 May 2020 11: 17
      +2
      From this "bad" something everyone is very much drawn.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 May 2020 11: 25
        +1
        Yes, I’ve already read 3 different versions of how they laughed, wrote tearful letters in pure Russian, and sailors left the nearest port from military destroyers + USA after sailing to the Russian Federation ..
        But I didn’t look specifically. Surely such urya-victories in our urya-media were even more thought up ....
    2. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) 6 May 2020 09: 03
      +1
      The troops will be when the need arises.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 May 2020 09: 23
        0
        An article about Boomerangs appeared on VO -

        ... was shown in parades, which is the latest, not having, superior and so on in the text.

        Developed, but the MO allegedly refused to purchase.
    3. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 May 2020 19: 44
      0
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      And competition, and everything is bad.

      Armat and Su-57 are still not in the troops, although the 3rd generation of Armat (or already the 4th?) Is already on parades
      Examples of lies and fraud about under missiles, torpedoes, lasers, and hypersounds make us think the same about SU and Armata, which is confirmed by (rare) reservations of military officials ......

      Not a generation. Year in a row? You probably wanted to say this?
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 May 2020 22: 22
        0
        This is conditional. Early Armats are very different from medium ones, and those from modern ones. In the tower, mostly, but also in the hull a bit ...
        1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
          Observer2014 6 May 2020 22: 26
          -1
          This is conditional. The early Armats in the parades are very different from the average, and those from the modern ones. The tower is mostly, but also the hull a bit ..

          laughing yes And what do you mean by body?
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 May 2020 00: 02
            -1
            He, too, seemed to change a bit ...
            1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
              Observer2014 7 May 2020 00: 18
              -1
              Quote: Sergey Latyshev
              He, too, seemed to change a bit ...

              Like. What is it like? It also changed. wassat laughing
              And about your a bit .. drinks laughing
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 May 2020 08: 42
                0
                This is the wealth of the Russian language !!!)))
                You are not a foreigner?))) It’s hard for them to understand ....
  3. In general, judging by the results of activities in the military-industrial complex, the space and aviation sectors, there is already a lack of scientific, engineering base and qualifications even for large projects. There is, in my opinion, an unmistakable criterion - the majority of projects widely announced under Putin in the defense industry, space or aviation (PAK FA, Armata, Zircon, Vostochny cosmodrome, Angara, Superjet) did not go through the state procedure for accepting for service / operation and / or not mass produced.
    The general impression is a ruined science + technical degradation + depopulation of competent engineers, scientists + regular show-offs for cutting dough with a new class of effective managers. It seems that all projects are starting to PR from scratch in order to attract loot, and whether it works or not, nobody thinks to bring it all to the end.
    1. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) 6 May 2020 09: 04
      0
      Well, everything is like a potential adversary!
  4. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 5 May 2020 18: 30
    +1
    From "Almaty" to the S-400 - everything is bad for the Russians ...

    We are waiting for the report on the use of Chinese military equipment by the Chinese army in real hostilities.
    While this is not the case, all the races of the Chinese media on the ears of readers - the level of "kindergarten" Pants on the straps. "
    China last fought in 1979 with Vietnam. Vietnam defeated by secondary forces of self-defense, the army was in Laos and Cambodia. They wanted to demonstrate something in Syria, but they were afraid, even behind the broad backs of Russia and Iran.
    Until the PLA itself demonstrates its equipment in battle, Chinese weapons will be bought only from poverty and because they are similar to the Russian and others they have been torn with. But the Chinese media, until then, it’s better to shut up.
  5. cmonman Offline cmonman
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 6 May 2020 03: 25
    +1
    However, it will be very, very sorry if this issue makes not just rivals, but opponents, two countries that have a common and very serious foe - the United States with their unrequited claims to world domination.

    If by “world domination” we mean the number of weapons sold, then Russia is already in the top five, i.e. there is a little tension left and will enter the top three.
    If by “world domination” we mean ballet and figure skating, then I take off my hat - Russia is without competitors.
    In general, the author needs to understand that if Russia praises / supports all Chinese actions / actions at all levels (as they say on the site, it “licks”), this does not mean that China will not wipe its feet sooner or later on Russia. As they say - nothing personal ...
  6. The Chinese are armed with competitors to us!
  7. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 10 May 2020 05: 23
    0
    Well, here the Chinese will not break off. Weapons aren’t fools. And chatter in the press, no more than chatter.
  8. Serge Tixiy Offline Serge Tixiy
    Serge Tixiy (Serge Tixiy) 11 May 2020 15: 18
    +1
    Competition in the arms markets .. that’s what is behind Chinese chatter ...