“Clinging to power at all costs”: Finnish expert on Vladimir Putin


The consequences of the twenty-year rule of Russian President Vladimir Putin are trying to analyze Finnish experts, whose statements are quoted by the newspaper Suomenmaa.


Briefly recalling the main stages of the reign of the current head of state, they tried to give their assessment of the current situation and possible prospects.

Both invited experts believe that Putin will be able to maintain power until 2036, when he will be 84 years old, but this may require innovative solutions.

So Professor Markku Kangaspuro, director of the Alexander Institute in Helsinki, believes that the Kremlin can take an unexpected move, which hardly anyone can predict now.

His colleague is more intransigent.

The country has gradually slipped from weak democracy to increasingly harsh authoritarianism, the vulnerability of which is dependence on Putin himself. [...] An impudent and dishonest game is what all this clinging to power at any cost looks like. Complete dependence on one person shows that Putinism cannot exist without Putin

- says a senior fellow at the Institute of External policy Yusya Lassila.

According to the expert, given the effects of the pandemic and economic recession, there is no guarantee that in the fateful 2024 Putin will have the necessary popular support.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 1 May 2020 21: 33
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    “Clinging to power at all costs”: Finnish expert on Vladimir Putin

    Less to the Finnish expert! Do not cling! And trying to claw! laughing What else does he need for complete happiness? Immortal life? wassat
    1. Vladislav Labinsky (Vladislav Labinsky) 2 May 2020 09: 35
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      And who does not want this?
  2. Digital error Offline
    Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 21: 45
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    Impudent and dishonest game, here is how all this clinging to power at all costs looks

    A significant point - at all costs to taxpayers.
    It is difficult to disagree with this opinion - but how else to explain the "non-resistance" to the Tereshkova amendment? And most importantly - why cling - because he has everything and is unlikely to be better. Maybe she’s afraid that they will drag me through the courts - like Poroshenko? If so, then for the sake of this, should the people endure another 16 years of "stability"? Come on.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 2 May 2020 06: 53
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      Maybe she’s afraid that they will drag me through the courts - like Poroshenko?

      Is there anything to carry? Just an unexpected version, can you give an example?
      1. Digital error Offline
        Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 22: 43
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        Quote: 123
        can you give an example?

        Willingly. In the Russian Federation, according to the current Constitution, laws should not be adopted that detract from the rights of its citizens. I had the right (until October 3, 2018) to retire at 60. And now I do not have this right - so maybe it was "diminished"? And who signed the relevant Federal Law - an hour, not a guarantor? smile
        1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 02: 03
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          The state, pursuing a socio-economic policy, is obliged to take into account "the material resources necessary also for the fulfillment of other constitutionally significant tasks." Authorities pass laws in the interests of Russians, "even if lawmaking intentions do not receive the support of a significant portion of citizens." Moreover, the Constitution does not imply the need for a nationwide discussion of the bill ..

          Excerpt from the decision of the Constitutional Court.
          1. Digital error Offline
            Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 02: 06
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            Quote: Dear couch expert.
            Extract from the decision of the Constitutional Court

            I see, I touched you tightly - everywhere they "promoted". smile
            This (COP decision) is understandable. So was the right diminished or not?
            That is the question. smile
        2. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 3 May 2020 06: 29
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          Willingly. In the Russian Federation, according to the current Constitution, laws should not be adopted that detract from the rights of its citizens. I had the right (until October 3, 2018) to retire at 60. And now I do not have this right - so maybe it was "diminished"? And who signed the relevant Federal Law - an hour, not a guarantor?

          I’m afraid to drag you through the courts in this case, you have few chances. Some citizens, for example, until recently had the opportunity to transfer their "hard-earned" offshore without any taxes, and now their right, as you put it, is "diminished", and even the tax is not 13, but 15%. What do you think, what are their chances of dragging Putin through the courts? This is to say that often officials adopt laws that affect the property rights of various categories of citizens and for some reason I do not recall the precedents of prosecution for such. They act within their powers. Here, even the excess of power can not be sewn. request
          Comparison with Poroshenko is incorrect, namely criminal cases, state treason, money laundering, embezzlement, tax evasion. This boar is an ordinary felon.
          1. Digital error Offline
            Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 22: 39
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            I'm afraid to drag on the courts in this case, you have not many chances

            Nobody is going to do this - I just assumed that he might be afraid of it (and therefore “clings”, as the article says). On February 12, Kommersant reported that a "group of comrades" offered former presidents lifetime membership in the Federation Council. If I am not mistaken, this is legal immunity, that is, a kind of guarantee of immunity.

            Quote: 123
            This boar is an ordinary felon.

            I will add - the "sold" IMF country.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 4 May 2020 14: 05
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              Nobody is going to do this - I just assumed that he might be afraid of it (and therefore “clings”, as the article says). On February 12, Kommersant reported that a "group of comrades" offered former presidents lifetime membership in the Federation Council. If I am not mistaken, this is legal immunity, that is, a kind of guarantee of immunity.

              Such "groups of comrades" exist at all times and under any regimes. There are always those who are ready to propose the construction of a lifetime monument. laughing I see no reason to fear criminal prosecution, in any case, justified. hi
              1. Digital error Offline
                Digital error (Eugene) 4 May 2020 14: 13
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                There are always those who are ready to offer to build a lifetime monument

                There will be those "careerists" who want to simplify the "care" in this way, offering in exchange their services under certain guarantees. If I am not mistaken, Yeltsin received quite good “compensation” in the form of a pension, and instead of “initiating proceedings”, the Yeltsin Center was opened. hi
                1. 123 Offline
                  123 (123) 4 May 2020 15: 19
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                  There will be those "careerists" who want to simplify the "care" in this way, offering in exchange their services under certain guarantees. If I’m not mistaken, Yeltsin received quite good “compensation” in the form of a pension, and instead of “initiating proceedings”, the Yeltsin Center was opened

                  I believe that Yeltsin had much more cause for concern. The transfer of power is perhaps the only example of its correct decisions.
                  1. Digital error Offline
                    Digital error (Eugene) 4 May 2020 15: 26
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                    Quote: 123
                    The transfer of power is perhaps the only example of his right decisions.

                    I agree, you can criticize him endlessly, but you cannot refuse him courage and determination - the “Ural character” was able to realize that he had already lost his grip and the time had come for younger ones. Or maybe someone (what?) Scared him - we will not know this for sure.
                    1. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 4 May 2020 15: 48
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                      I don’t think they were intimidated, but rather I understood where we were going.
        3. VVVV Offline
          VVVV (N B) 3 May 2020 08: 39
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          It’s also a predatory salary coefficient of 1,2 in the formula for calculating pensions (for the vast majority of pensioners it’s several times lowering earned pensions by HONOR LONG LIFE), which, when switching to a point system for calculating pensions, no one bothered to count the old people .... This is notorious pension reform ... And this is generally a “pearl”, which clearly demonstrates the absence of even the rudiments of conscience among the current power-holders and other “people's servants” who eat up at the national expense: impudent them, with Dimon, NEDOINDEXATSIYA-2016, when Russia skim the elderly in February 2016 to index their meager pensions by only 4% instead of 12,9%. If in 2016 the pensions were honestly indexed, plus the indexation of the pensions of 2017-2020 for these old people who were roped out by the elderly, then our pensions would be higher by 8,9-2-3 thousand MONTHLY unpaid and not at all extra rubles for us. The rulers have long since canceled their anti-crisis decline by 4% and are receiving in full their absolutely exorbitant ZRP payments, but they have “forgotten” about the miserable pensions of Russian old people ?! And now, in the current situation, why isn’t the reason for our "socially oriented" state to fix this and return the impudent deceitful Russian old people? It would be more than the way!
  3. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 1 May 2020 22: 06
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    Let's drool over ...
  4. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 1 May 2020 22: 33
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    Do the hot Finnish guys want Shoigu to be the next president of Russia?
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    Alf (Vasiliy) 1 May 2020 23: 05
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    Given the effects of the pandemic and the economic downturn, there is no guarantee that Putin will have the necessary popular support in the fateful 2024.

    He has this insufficient popular support not in 2024, but now.
  6. Maxim727 Offline
    Maxim727 (Maksim) 2 May 2020 01: 22
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    Every decision and every word of Putin is the arithmetic mean of the opinions of the Russian elite. And it will always be like this - any president who succeeds Putin will express a common opinion, and not his personal opinion. The same Yeltsin expressed the total illusions of the Russians. So what is the difference - who is our president? Absolutely none.
    1. Vlad Petrov Offline
      Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 2 May 2020 09: 59
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      Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich, Gusinsky and a large crowd of their own and foreign figures from the highway, the darkness is hopeless and much that will come. Come figure it out.
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      Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 22: 52
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      Quote: Maksim727
      So what is the difference - who is our president? Absolutely none.

      Then why do we need the "Tereshkova amendment"?
    3. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 3 May 2020 17: 16
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      ... who cares who our president is?
      “Absolutely none.”

      When working under the letter of the law of the executive branch, none. But if you break this vertical of power, it immediately appears.
      At the moment, in Russia there is a difference who the president is. Because the existing, new vertical is sharpened exclusively for its creator and often works exclusively in manual mode.
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    oracul (leonid) 2 May 2020 06: 54
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    It is strange when they begin to discuss speculation and someone’s invention. The problem of Putin V.V. in the fact that, figuratively speaking, he goes through the "minefield" of those personnel that he inherited along with the destroyed economy and under the control of the West. The slightest wrong step to the side - and that Russia that he wants to build - no.
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      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 May 2020 07: 14
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      Quote: oracul
      The problem of Putin V.V. in the fact that, figuratively speaking, he goes through the "minefield" of those personnel that he inherited along with the destroyed economy and under the control of the West.

      A very strange argument for a person who has been in power for 20 years. As a legacy, he could get some shots in 2000. In 2020, this excuse does not work.
      Sorry, 20 years is a whole new generation born. If he is not able to create and train personnel for himself, relying on the old ones, then he is corny professionally unsuitable.
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 2 May 2020 08: 59
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      20 years, damn it, has passed, but the field is the same? Andersen you are ours.
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    SASS (Sass) 2 May 2020 08: 43
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    What a cool info. Honey ...))) Hehe. laughing
  9. Vladislav Labinsky (Vladislav Labinsky) 2 May 2020 09: 53
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    The country gradually slid from weak democracy to increasingly harsh authoritarianism.

    - they don’t like that the Yeltsin era is in the past.

    The Kremlin may take an unexpected move, which it is now hardly capable of foreseeing.

    - this is the most important thing: what will Putin change his mind.
    1. Vladislav Labinsky (Vladislav Labinsky) 2 May 2020 12: 01
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      I'm tired of guessing.
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    steelmaker 2 May 2020 10: 17
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    Can you imagine what will happen to Sechin, Miller, Nabiullina and the like if the president becomes "like Grudinin"? They’re just finishing him now, so that others can be an example! Elections are useless, they’ll count as they should. Therefore, until 2036 it is a minimum. Unless there will be a revolution? We have no second Lenin !!
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      Gennady1959 (Gennady) 2 May 2020 13: 50
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      Sechenovs, Millers, Nabiullins, Putin, Grudinins, Zyuganovs serve only their wallet and the group of oligarchs. There is not among them a man who serves the PEOPLE. Therefore, as they are not interchanged, for a simple person, nothing will change. We are waiting for the boy Joseph Dzhugashvili to be born in the outback. Putin is bad, but there is no one to replace him. That is the trouble.
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    Joker62 (Ivan) 2 May 2020 10: 50
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    Finn will never understand the soul of Russia. He himself lives in illusion, and considers himself a democratic person ... But no ... He looked at himself in the mirror? That’s the whole trouble ... And as for the GDP, he is still a leader, though not bright, but a leader, unlike shit, drunkards and petty DAM ... This is not Stalin for you, unfortunately ....
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      Nick (Nikolai) 2 May 2020 20: 30
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      Quote: Joker62
      As for GDP - he is still a leader, though not bright, but a leader

      In terms of brightness, Putin is far from Trump or Zhirinovsky, but in terms of efficiency he is a leader.
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    Ser sash (Ser Sash) 2 May 2020 10: 58
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    As one Russian opposition said -

    The United States is not beneficial democracy in Russia, because in this way a person who defends the interests of Russia can come to power.
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    Gogi bresner (Gogi Bresner) 2 May 2020 11: 41
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    I am sure that Professor Markku Kangaspuro is the elder brother of the Ukrainian journalist Tsimbalyuk ....
  14. Vyacheslav Egorov (Vyacheslav Egorov) 2 May 2020 12: 43
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    To quote some Finn? Madhouse.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 2 May 2020 21: 23
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      .. To quote some Finn? Madhouse.

      The author is the champion of the world (and its environs) in the search for such “Finns”. All his articles are riddled with hatred of Putin, with whose favorable permission, by the way, he creates here, so to speak.)
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        Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 22: 53
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        with whose favorable permission, by the way, he creates here

        Criticism under democracy is exclusively for the benefit of the state, this is the basics. The main thing in modern realities is not to offend anyone (otherwise in recent decades they have become “sugar” - they are offended by “unfit” people).
        Have you read the newspaper Pravda for a long time? And how much truth was there in her? smile
        1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 00: 10
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          Criticism under democracy is exclusively for the benefit of the state, this is the basics.

          What are you? But nothing that in a democracy, the head of state is chosen democratically? And this means, by the majority, whose interests he should first of all represent. And why on earth should a democratically elected president representing the interests of the majority listen to criticism of some subjects that do not enjoy the support of the people? That would not be democratic.)
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            Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 00: 32
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            Quote: Dear couch expert.
            It would not be democratic)

            That's right. And the next vote will show who enjoys the support of the people and who does not. smile You see, the majority of people are so ... not vindictive. But I think I should appreciate the reduction of 5 years of pension payments after the promise of a “breakthrough”.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 00: 43
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              Well, nothing, in Germany, the retirement age was also raised to 67 years, and the same for men and women. But Frau Merkel, as a chancellor, remained. Why is Putin worse? All the same, I would have to raise the retirement age, although this reform is not very popular in any nation.
              Any sensible Russian, having seen enough of the “non-brothers”, will cast his vote for stability (see Putin).
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                Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 00: 50
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                Quote: Dear couch expert.
                in Germany there

                Quote: Dear couch expert.
                after watching the "brothers"

                Why do we need these unsuccessful examples? Pensvozhrazh increase to the IMF to feed (I see no other reasons). Maybe who got the gesheft from this - personal. But we will not choose Navalny, do not worry.
                1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 21: 53
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                  And who will you choose as your minority?)
      2. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 3 May 2020 18: 09
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        Those. permits Putin, not the Laws and the Constitution? That’s the whole answer to our not very rosy situation.
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    minby 2 May 2020 12: 51
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    ... Finnish expert ..

    - many paid or near-by “experts” simply need to be either ignored (western) or held liable (in the case of “local”)).
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    mziatdinov (M Z) 2 May 2020 15: 38
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    Yeah! My thoughts are far from being a politician, but as an advanced layman. And sometimes I want to "shout" about my ... behind-the-scenes conversations are not in vogue today and the possibilities of various gadgets and freedom in the Internet community “untie the hands”, which, though rare, but like everyone else, “itch” on someone or something (right) ... For example, China and its very, very limited Internet for its citizens ... Now to the essence of the article. I believe that our President does not "cling to power", but treasures it very much, putting responsibility at the forefront and how the heavy burden on his shoulders refers to her as if to his own "child", who, being young (yes early) himself, accepted it in an orphanage (poor conditions for healthy development) and yet he didn’t refuse it in bad times, but grew and strengthened from many external diseases and addictions ... Is foreign policy, at present, more authoritative than him both as a strategist and as a scholar. I like his moral principles, the ability to conduct a conversation in public and win over me ... I, like most Russian citizens, really lack his attention in domestic politics on social issues, unfortunately ... Monthly (daily) changes and additions to laws. As soon as they are kept, incl. accountants who are fined relentlessly for "ignorance" and mistakes. Various fines increased not only quantitatively, but also tens of times ... The deputies of the race are clever in inventing new fines and restrictions in all spheres of life, as if showing their worth and need ... Penalties are a serious source of income in our time, especially to regions and municipalities ... Not a forest or a river can now be visited without fear ... Fishermen without weights and rulers and knowledge of new strict standards, it is better not to appear on the shore at all ... Water motor enthusiasts are puzzled by a 200-meter ban on parking from the shore and the problem of dragging your favorite boat and shmurdyak ... and ..., ... But, as in a famous song - he knows better. Without quick victories in the military-industrial complex, an increase in GDP, as well as a national fund ... like the external aura of the country's immunity, chronic diseases of young Russia would remain ... Huge hydrocarbon money went to buy gold ... and China, for example, has trillions in US securities, and Trump is now looking for the excuse for not returning or delaying it, or to make China guilty of a coronavirus and demand more of its debt ... Russia invested huge funds, including and the accelerated production of new hypersonic weapons, and their presence with us, have not reduced the tentacles of NATO and the Pentagon, which, through puppets, have almost surrounded us at the very borders. Respect, Love, Addiction, fear - push for certain actions. The first three from the countries of the West will never wait. But the fear of winning from an equal or in something predominant, having the same historical spirit to win, first causes tremors in the arms or legs, and then the desire to adequately retire for more intensive training, or it dawns on what may need to be answered by the outstretched Russia hand of friendship and cooperation. Everyone has long understood, America probably needs NATO, because they are dependent puppets, and all threats can mainly be realized from their territories, and not from the USA itself. That's what their strategic and basic trick is. America also has fear, as a dependency that some ambitious puppet military leader will fire in our direction and, accordingly, will disappear in return and will have to intervene, well, then, a member of the NATO bloc needs to be defended and what's next ... risk of nuclear war ... I believe (as a layman) that in all mass media there should be a clear position of Russia in such a situation for America that the first and lightning-fast, reciprocal "gifts" will be sent with a notification and inventory, precisely to its territory ... to its ... The consequences are indescribable. And within minutes or at the same time on the territory of the source of the missile attack ... This is definitely to be learned. This will be another strategic trump card of ours ... I apologize if something publicly allowed itself to something superfluous.
  17. Emma Nikolaev Offline
    Emma Nikolaev (Emma) 2 May 2020 16: 16
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    If Putin clings to power, it is only because he knows that no one better than him will cope with the further development of the country. He needs to complete many of his global projects. No one but Putin could restore Russia after the Yeltsin lawlessness, when it already seemed that everything was irreversible. No one but Putin could return Crimea to Russia. No one could help Syria get rid of its occupation. He helped not only Syria, but primarily Russia, so following the enslavement of Syria, Iran and Russia were on the path of the USA and Israel, and China followed them. All foreign media that attribute to Putin the desire to lead the government at all costs are judged superficially, without going into the essence, and without analyzing Russian problems and Putin's role in overcoming them.
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      Emma Nikolaev (Emma) 2 May 2020 16: 21
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      Error: .... so HOW after the enslavement of Syria ....
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      Nick (Nikolai) 2 May 2020 20: 35
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      Quote: Emma Nikolaev
      All foreign media that attribute to Putin the desire to lead the government at all costs are judged superficially, without going into the essence, and without analyzing Russian problems and Putin's role in overcoming them.

      Assessing the actions of others, people judge by themselves, so their conclusions, in fact, a judgment about themselves, such as: - what would I do in his place. What motives would I be guided by when making this or that decision.
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      Bitter (Gleb) 3 May 2020 16: 18
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      Sounds like a mistake.

      he knows that no one can do better than him ...

      What a presumption. How does he know that? This is a strange statement. But here all Putin’s less competitive and having ambitions, views and goals, skillfully and timely removes from the political scene.

      No one ... no one ... no one ...

      You can just as well say, not a fact, not a fact, not a fact.

      Following the enslavement of Syria, Iran and Russia were on the path of the USA and Israel.

      Iran has long been in the queue, during this time, the same Americans chewed, spat out and it is even rising again, and Iran is standing.
      Boris Nikolaevich at one time had a lot to betray, transfer, sell, sign and promote, it works to this day. Financial flows are established, shares are divided and where the right people are sitting or decisive shareholdings are in the hands of international capital. Yeltsin's lawlessness was somewhat streamlined, which increased the efficiency of pumping resources and received a more welcoming face.
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    Alexander Zima (Alexander Zima) 2 May 2020 21: 22
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    I don’t understand why to print what strangers from another galaxy think about the president of RUSSIA? It has its own population, which will say whether they need Putin. And these ... let them speak about the "Emperor" of the United States. He also clings to power, like a mother-in-law at the rail of the balcony on the ninth floor.
    1. Digital error Offline
      Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 22: 10
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      that also clings to power

      Also like who?
      1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 00: 13
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        Alexander Zima

        ... he also clings to power.

        Also like who?

        Just like everyone else.
        1. Digital error Offline
          Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 00: 34
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          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          Just like everyone else.

          Today, few can watch tomorrow. More precisely, not only everything. laughing laughing laughing
          1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 01: 05
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            Yes, yes, you rhetorical abilities of the mayor of your capital know me better)
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              Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 01: 10
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              your capital

              This has never happened before, and here again :) The discharge of the dispute is counted. wink
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                It never happened.

                Are you sure you wrote?
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  20. Dear sofa expert. 2 May 2020 21: 45
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    The country has gradually slipped from weak democracy to increasingly harsh authoritarianism, the vulnerability of which is dependence on Putin himself. [...] An impudent and dishonest game is what all this clinging to power at any cost looks like. Complete dependence on one person shows that Putinism cannot exist without Putin ..

    Does this speaker even understand that Russia’s territory is more than 50 times larger than Finland? 30 times more in population? Ten times more in the number of nationalities?
    What the hell is democracy? This “puzzle” must be held in strong hands, otherwise it will simply fall apart into many, many small segments. Is this the dream of every “chukhonets”? And did such “Chukhons” think that if the “puzzle” breaks up, then a good hundred small “nuclear powers” ​​may appear in the world? Chechnya alone is worth it !!! You need to turn on your brain before voicing it at all!
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      Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 22: 12
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      What the hell is democracy?

      It is completely prescribed by the Constitution, even its planned new edition. Are you against the constitution? Yes you, my friend, an extremist. smile
      1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 00: 02
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        That is, you agreed with everything else.
        And this, in turn, justifies the style of today's governance of Russia.
        And in general, do you think that you know how, wittily, to grab “incoherent words” from my context and ask naive questions that seem tricky to you?) Aren't you afraid of a boomerang?
        1. Digital error Offline
          Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 00: 29
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          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          Are you not afraid of boomerang?

          Which - in the form of tricky questions? Of course, I’m not afraid - it brightens to some extent the “isolation days” :)

          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          with everything else you agreed

          I agree with the first part - "Putinism cannot exist without Putin." Otherwise, why consolidate his legacy in the Constitution? smile
      2. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 01: 07
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        The constitution says: "weak democracy"?)
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          Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 01: 12
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          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          it is written: "weak democracy"

          I did not use this term - you confuse me with someone.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 21: 56
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            Probably, I confuse the author of the article) Did you read the article, or did you go to say “around the corner”?)
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              Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 22: 16
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              Quote: Dear couch expert.
              shit "around the corner" went?

              Again you confuse me with someone. :) "Shit" for the sake of "throwing a fan", I'm trying to discuss, but here's your perception of this. request
              1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 38
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                Well, usually do ukro-trolls. Or do you now publicly deny this?)
          2. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 27
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            Sorry, I accidentally put you 2 minuses)
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              Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 22: 31
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              Witty, I admit. Probably, a notification came to me from the site that you answered my comment, so I answered you. This has already happened - that opponent did not believe then, now you do not believe, but oh well.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 32
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                Nothing happens.
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      Bitter (Gleb) 3 May 2020 18: 05
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      What the hell is democracy?

      Without it, enough to spend money on. good

      ... if the puzzle breaks up ... into many, many small segments ...

      The dream of all world funds and capitalists is how much a resource for "optimization", and how many loans for "development" can be distributed. fellow

      Chechnya alone is worth it !!!

      Well, just one Chechnya, without any nuclear status, which has put everyone in a pose for a year, and here Finns have begun to criticize. It's a shame, however. crying
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    Vaklunin (VAklunin) 3 May 2020 09: 59
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    According to the expert, given the consequences of the pandemic and the economic downturn, there is no guarantee that Putin will have the necessary popular support in the fateful 2024.

    The trouble is that HE no longer needs popular support. The notorious “APPROVAL” by all echelons of vertical power, including the nourished elite in all walks of life, is given for popular support. The people who do not have a vote on the DH are not able to change anything. Unfortunately.
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      Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 18: 31
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      Quote: VAKlunin
      The people who do not have a vote on the DH are not able to change anything.

      And is this thought exactly ripe in your head? Or did someone carefully put it in there for you? Our “electorate” is amazing - everyone is dissatisfied, but there is no time to go to the polls ...
      1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 21: 58
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        Everyone is unhappy.

        I am satisfied. Or is it you?
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          Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 22: 13
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          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          I am satisfied.

          Congratulations! My theory is refuted by at least one exception. hi
          1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 16
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            ..My theory is refuted by at least one exception ..

            Yeah, one warrior in the field. I’ll go (again alone), I will vote, and I will choose Putin for myself for the whole of Russia, in my one voice against “all yours”)
  22. Gelsomino burattini (Gelsomino Burattini) 3 May 2020 14: 39
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    Something vague doubts torment me whether he will manage to sit a legal term ... The authorities are at least eight buckets, but his health really depends on medicine pushed into a bad hole - but there, as in a bathhouse, everyone is equal. Attempts to turn into hospital hospitals and exhibitions - a confirmation of insanity.
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    Yuri Anikin (Yuri Anikin) 3 May 2020 16: 44
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    Vladimir Putin is the only leader whom the people have elected! (Yeltsin doesn’t count, since the fraud in the 1996 elections was not disputed ... But earlier in the USSR and Russia (pre-revolutionary) people perceived central authority as a fact (non-alternative).
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      Digital error (Eugene) 3 May 2020 18: 41
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      Quote: Yuri Anikin
      people perceived central authority as a fact (non-alternative)

      Maybe this lack of alternative just led to the revolution in 1917 and to the counter-revolution in 1991. The presence of political competition (alternative) is one of the "pillars" of state stability ...
      1. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 00
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        .. The presence of political competition (alternatives) is one of the "pillars" of state stability ..

        Yeah, how are you now in Ukraine?
      2. Dear sofa expert. 3 May 2020 22: 50
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        For some reason, you persistently avoid questions about your Ukrainian identity. Answer my direct question: Are you a Ukrainian troll? Yes or no?
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          Digital error (Eugene) 4 May 2020 01: 17
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          Quote: Dear couch expert.
          Are you a Ukrainian troll? Yes or no?

          Twenty five again. Mountain. Here -

          https://topcor.ru/14232-amerikanskie-smi-novaja-russkaja-revoljucija-na-poroge.html#comment

          - already answered, but you stubbornly row at me in Ukrainians. lol
          And what, incidentally, will give you knowledge of my "nationality", if not a secret?
          Here Pishchak is here "on the forum", apparently, a Ukrainian - so he writes sensible comments, although the syllable is complicated ...