Syrian air defense is growing: Israeli air strike ends in nothing


According to the state television channel of the Syrian Republic, Al-Ihbaria, today at about 5 a.m. the Israeli air force, while in the airspace of Lebanon, launched several attacks on military facilities in Syria.


The main targets were warehouses of pro-Iranian militias located south of the capital of Syria. At the site of air strikes, fires were recorded, including from detonation of explosives in warehouses.

Similar messages are published by the Syrian state agency SANA. According to various sources, the Syrian air defense was involved in repelling the attack. The Israeli air strikes were repelled quite successfully - they managed to bring down several launched missiles. As a result of an Israeli air raid, no one was hurt.


Another success in repelling air strikes indicates an increase in the effectiveness of Syrian air defense forces - the interception of Israeli missiles did not allow Tel Aviv to achieve any success.


A week ago, April 20, by Israeli planes in Homs was attacked the facility north of the Syrian Air Force airfield Et-Tiyas. Then the Syrian Buk complexes opened fire on the IDF fighters for the first time.
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 27 2020 10: 28
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    And according to the state television channel of the Syrian Republic, Al-Ihbaria, at least once the Israeli airstrike was almost completely not reflected?
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  2. Alexzn Online
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 27 2020 10: 31
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    Nothing new. Typically, the Syrians shoot down all the missiles (and even a little more), and fires and explosions at the attacked objects are usually from unsurpassed cigarette butts thrown in the wrong place.
  3. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 27 2020 10: 48
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    Well, it's time to introduce the concept of "Syrian TV." All reflected, but something is burning ...
    And what kind of "warehouses of pro-Iranian militias" around the capital?
  4. Natan bruk Offline
    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 27 2020 11: 35
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    Everything, as usual - all missiles shot down, all targets hit. :))) The author, well, at least read what you write yourself - “fires and detonations were recorded” and then “failed to achieve any success”. Somehow it’s more necessary, so that it’s not so evident. And in general, yes, the gallant Syrian air defense, judging by their reports, had already rocketed almost the train. If only they showed something. But it is clear that they will not show - they are secret. :)))
    1. General Black Offline
      General Black (Gennady) April 27 2020 15: 38
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      But it would be good for the valiant Jewish Cossacks to launch missiles not from Lebanon, but to fly, say, two hundred kilometers into Syria. And work on goals right on the spot. So to speak, "creatively use the terrain and folds of the terrain."
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        rotkiv04 (Victor) April 27 2020 16: 50
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        That's why they are Jews, to shoot stealthily.
        1. Tramp1812 Offline
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 27 2020 17: 39
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          Quote: rotkiv04
          That's why they are Jews, to shoot stealthily.

          Is it a matter of Japanese samurai. They will reach the line of fire, proudly rise to meet the enemy. And right in front of his eyes, his stomach is torn open. So then the Japanese. So you better take an example from them. Do not adopt the fighting experience of the Jews. And then God forbid you stay alive. Not an order. )
          1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 19: 46
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            No offense, your purr reminded me of a joke:

            - Abram, did you fight?
            - Well.
            - What, well?
            - Well, I didn’t fight.
            1. Natan bruk Offline
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 27 2020 19: 53
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              But the "expert" wow how he fought! On his armored crashed into the thick of the enemies :)))
            2. Jacques Offline
              Jacques (jacques) 1 May 2020 15: 57
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              The corps was commanded by 14 Jews, at different times they led 23 corps. Armies were commanded by 8 Jews: generals Malinovsky, Kreiser, Kolpakchi, Skvirsky, Dashevsky, Broad, Gorodinsky and Pruss. Jews - 25 generals and the Marshal of the Soviet Union led the military operations of the fronts. The organs of the Supreme Headquarters were served by 16 generals and admirals - Jews, who are thus directly involved in the strategic leadership of the war as a whole.

              https://www.krugozormagazine.com
      2. Natan bruk Offline
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 27 2020 17: 11
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        They flew in and more than once. Last time exactly a week ago. They also wrote about this here, they say, they used BUKs for the first time, some other child prodigies, but they didn’t get, they say, because of the powerful electronic protection.
        1. Natan bruk Offline
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 27 2020 17: 13
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          By the way, several months ago, some kind of Hezbollon’s weapons depots on the Syrian-Iraqi border were generally smashed. Also shot from Lebanon? And what is it they have for such a miracle air-to-ground rockets?
          1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 19: 52
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            Easy .. from Lebanon to Iraq in a straight line 150 km (well, plus 50, if that). Or Israeli rockets can only fly along the road?
            1. Natan bruk Offline
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 29 2020 00: 07
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              Open the card and count. What 150 km?
              1. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 00: 12
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                In Google, the distance shows. Open and count yourself, if not laziness)
                1. Natan bruk Offline
                  Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 29 2020 05: 28
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                  Nonsense. The Syrian-Iraqi border is at least 400 km.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. April 30 2020 08: 12
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                    ... from Lebanon to Iraq in a straight line 150 km (well, plus 50, if that).

                    From Lebanon to Syria = 0 (zero) km.
                    From Lebanon to Iraq = See above.
                    1. Natan bruk Offline
                      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 30 2020 12: 33
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                      I understand that you live in parallel reality.
          2. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 00: 25
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            Israel has such missiles. ("Rocks")
            They seem to fly several hundred kilometers.
            1. Natan bruk Offline
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 29 2020 05: 29
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              Flies at 400km? Give a link to this?
              1. Natan bruk Offline
                Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 29 2020 05: 34
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                Yes, and all reports say that they bombed directly on the spot. No way, they all lie?
                1. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 08: 38
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                  Help you find a reference here, or somehow turn on your head, finally?)
                  1. Natan bruk Offline
                    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) April 30 2020 00: 33
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                    Why a reference, just a week ago, in this, ahem, respected publication, it was said that Israeli planes entered Syrian airspace and bombed targets directly from it. They were fired for the first time from BUKs and other wunderwafers, but, they say, they didn’t fall due to powerful electronic countermeasures. So, the question is - who else needs to turn on the head.
              2. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 08: 37
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                Yes, please .. (a few hundred - this is not necessarily 400))

                https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/240026.html
  5. Tramp1812 Offline
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 27 2020 17: 34
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    Syrian air defense is destroying more and more Israeli missiles, Iranian depots with weapons and personnel from their misses are becoming less ....
    And publications about this. Something like:

    We are about explosions, about fires
    composed the note TASS,
    the orderlies rushed here
    fixed us.
  6. Tramp1812 Offline
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 27 2020 18: 04
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    How interesting it is to compare publications from various Syrian sources on the same fact. For example.

    The London-based organization The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports that early in the morning of April 27, Israeli forces attacked Iranian forces and the Lebanese Hezbollah south and southwest of Damascus. The aim of the strikes was headquarters and warehouses.
    Attacks were carried out on targets in the areas of Al-Saida Zainab, Sahnaya, Al-Kisua, Al-Adlaya, Al-Hajira. Hits and secondary explosions caused by detonation of explosives in warehouses were recorded.
    According to SOHR, at least seven people were killed as a result of these air strikes: four militants, possibly commanders, pro-Iranian units or Hezbollah, were killed in the Al-Kisua and Sahnaya area. Destroyed the headquarters of the militants.
  7. jekasimf Offline
    jekasimf (jekasimf) April 27 2020 18: 05
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    The effectiveness of Syrian air defense is growing ....

    And when will it grow?
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 27 2020 18: 24
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      She has reached the limit, there is nowhere to improve further, and there is no need.
    2. sgrabik Offline
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 28 2020 12: 34
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      It’s easier to teach a monkey to read and write than to teach Arabs to successfully fight and competently use modern military equipment.
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    Binder (Miron) April 27 2020 19: 11
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    The falsity of the Syrian government media on the example of this message is clearly visible - the valiant air defense shot down all the Zionist missiles, the attack was completely useless, but the warehouses exploded. The traditions of Arabian tales since the time of Scheherazade have creatively developed - she did not tell such frank nonsense. wassat
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 20: 05
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      To me, your hyperactive pro-Israel subservience (if not to say - licking) reminds me of this excerpt from the article. You can’t better formulate:

      ..The changed composition of the Israeli population, alas, played a very negative role in the evolution of this society. Numerous immigrants from the former Soviet Union do not think much about the initial ideas that brought the Zionist movement to life, but they unanimously support the aggressive pragmatism of the state. Arriving in a new country, they quickly became patriots in the most reactionary sense of the word. It may seem strange that people who themselves or considered themselves victims of discrimination joyfully support the discrimination of others, in this case, Arabs (not only Palestinians, but also residents of Israel). However, it should be remembered that, firstly, in fact, many new immigrants in real life have never encountered anti-Semitic oppression in the USSR (many of them are not at all Jews or, moreover, believing Jews), and secondly, condemnation discrimination at one’s own address does not necessarily mean rejection of discrimination at all. When we are oppressed, it is unfair. When we oppress others, it’s normal ...
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        Binder (Miron) April 27 2020 21: 14
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        ... joyfully support the discrimination of others, in this case Arabs.

        In Israel, there is no discrimination against Arabs. Arabs hold prominent posts in government agencies and in the private sector - among them there are ministers, members of parliament, generals and higher. officers, bankers, businessmen, professors, doctors, etc. The author quoted by you is lying and does not blush.
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 21: 44
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          But I don’t care what you say now. I said my opinion about you. Let others judge who is telling the truth.
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            Binder (Miron) April 27 2020 21: 58
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            And how much I do not care about your opinion ...
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            2. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 22: 04
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              And I didn’t write it for you) You do not deserve this either. The reaction of normal people is more important to me. And she already followed, if you noticed.
          2. Jacques Offline
            Jacques (jacques) April 28 2020 14: 00
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            And to say an opinion about you ... not a single moderator will miss))))
            1. Dear sofa expert. April 28 2020 15: 09
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              Oh, so what? No way, the intellect of the "chosen" is over? What cultural expression does not allow?
              1. Jacques Offline
                Jacques (jacques) April 28 2020 17: 57
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                Your phrase about the "chosen" speaks of your inferiority complex.
                Your "literature" speaks of your Soviet past.
                Instead of learning the lessons of the Soviet past, you are engaged in the verbiage of a communist agitator.
                You are hopeless.
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                2. Dear sofa expert. April 28 2020 20: 57
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                  Well, you will teach me life now)) you have been called “chosen” for a long time, it wasn’t invented by me) The complex is just with you, since you are so stupidly reacting to the ordinary.

                  As mentioned in the Book of Exodus, the Jewish people are God's chosen people from which the Messiah, or savior of the world, will emerge. Israelis also own the “Word of God” and / or the “Law of God” in the form of the Torah given by God to Moses. Jews and, as a result, Christians as "Spiritual Israel", consider themselves to be "the chosen people."

                  "The Soviet past"? Naturally, I was born (as, however, many here) in the USSR. I am proud of my Soviet past. It has given me a lot.

                  Are you not Sorry)

                  Am I a communist? No - I am not a communist, but my father was a communist, and therefore I do not consider this word abusive.

                  Am i hopeless? No, I’m just that. I have a school of life behind me. These people like you are hopeless because you do not live your own experience. You read something somewhere, and that's all - you know everything).
                  As they say: what you read, we wrote for you.
                  1. Jacques Offline
                    Jacques (jacques) April 28 2020 23: 07
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                    Your "love" for the elect makes you absolutely impartial, objective))))
                    I understand you .... it’s necessary such a thing: a small puddle the size of a half of the Moscow region and suddenly shakes the right !!! And everyone plays along with them, the mattresses intercede for them, the Lebanese close their eyes to their Zionist machinations, the Arabs do not fight - they do not resist, the mountains puffed here and there .. because of them the S-300 are silent. Also Zionist things ... etc.
                    And where did Yosya look? They are everywhere, even climbed to Vova !!! What a scoundrel. And they can’t sit on a Russian site. Only they were pushed out the door - they climb through the window !!! Why's that ?
                    1. Dear sofa expert. April 28 2020 23: 19
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                      You can clown around as much as you like. It only amuses me.)
                      1. Jacques Offline
                        Jacques (jacques) April 28 2020 23: 21
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                        True, she is)))
                      2. Dear sofa expert. April 28 2020 23: 37
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                        True - it is different for everyone.
                        Look at what I'm doing here, and what are you.
                        My posts cause a storm of emotions for everyone, heated discussions begin, and most importantly, fools, like you and your kind, completely forget that they came here “smartly to shit”, and instead, turning to personalities, wallow in small squabbles with other participants .
                        And your posts - farted in (yours) “a small puddle, and the bubbles went, small ones, and smelling bad))
                        This is all that you and your “friends” are capable of.
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                      5. Jacques Offline
                        Jacques (jacques) April 29 2020 00: 47
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                        I would like to know, so as not to die an idiot: you "Zionists who climb into the window," you hate or adore the Syrians, or both, or both?)))
                      6. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 01: 11
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                        But there are no contradictions. And it's not the Zionists. Namely, in people like you. You read what I wrote before to your “friend”? There I very intelligibly and compactly explained my position in relation to “you”. Notice, not to the Zionists, but to "you." You know, for some reason it’s just one example that I’m thinking for you right now. I understand who you remind me of.
                        In the (prison) zones there are various castes of people. There are thieves. And there are - paid. These are such .. "sixes" trying to curry favor with thieves. They are usually thieves sent to the new arrivals to "probe" (they do not mind if they suddenly run into). But even more often, such “sixes” themselves take the initiative to show fidelity to their owners.
                        It’s precisely with such profitable “sixes” that I see people like you and your friends. You want to seem “more Zionist than all Zionists”)
                        It is to you all my disgust, and not to the people of Israel, as you are trying to turn here.
                        Something like that.
                      7. Jacques Offline
                        Jacques (jacques) April 29 2020 01: 27
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                        How well and much do you know about the zone, how many years have you served?
                        But I am happy for you, you love the people of Israel.
                      8. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 08: 43
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                        No more smart questions?
                      9. Jacques Offline
                        Jacques (jacques) April 29 2020 16: 25
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                        But I don’t care what you say now. I said my opinion about you.)))))))
  • Digital error Offline
    Digital error (Eugene) April 27 2020 22: 20
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    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    ... people who themselves or have considered themselves victims of discrimination joyfully support discrimination against others

    It looks like yesterday’s “plebeians” knocked out in the “Nobel” - do not you find?
    The psychology of consumer society - it is so ...
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 22: 55
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      I like the expression more:

      To the riches to riches, they just forgot to clean the dirt from under the nails.
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        Digital error (Eugene) April 27 2020 23: 02
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        Plus from me. It’s always nice to find common ground.
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 23: 13
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          Jews and Ukrainians are trying to draw the attention of the whole world to themselves. For some reason they’re crawling onto Russian sites, they write all sorts of rubbish, and at the same time they hope to find understanding.
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  • Tramp1812 Offline
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 27 2020 23: 16
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    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    To me, your hyperactive pro-Israel subservience (if not to say - licking) reminds me of this excerpt from the article. You can’t better formulate:

    ..The changed composition of the Israeli population, alas, played a very negative role in the evolution of this society. Numerous immigrants from the former Soviet Union do not think much about the initial ideas that brought the Zionist movement to life, but they unanimously support the aggressive pragmatism of the state. Arriving in a new country, they quickly became patriots in the most reactionary sense of the word. It may seem strange that people who themselves or considered themselves victims of discrimination joyfully support the discrimination of others, in this case, Arabs (not only Palestinians, but also residents of Israel). However, it should be remembered that, firstly, in fact, many new immigrants in real life have never encountered anti-Semitic oppression in the USSR (many of them are not at all Jews or, moreover, believing Jews), and secondly, condemnation discrimination at one’s own address does not necessarily mean rejection of discrimination at all. When we are oppressed, it is unfair. When we oppress others, it’s normal ...

    Actually, you are voicing two premises without justifying them with facts.
    1. The lack of anti-Semitism in the USSR.
    2. The oppression of the Arab minority in Israel.
    According to your first statement. In 1943, A.S. Zhdanov reward soldiers of all nationalities - Jews limited. At the end of the forties: the shooting of the entire elite of the Jewish intelligentsia, the struggle against rootless cosmopolitans with the dismissal of Jews from their posts, the fabricated case of "killer doctors", from the mid-60s to the collapse of the USSR - the fight against Zionism, and essentially legitimized anti-Semitism. 1983 year closed letter of the CPSU Central Committee - not to appoint Jews to leadership positions.
    1970-1990: ban on traveling to Israel, falsified criminal cases against tens of thousands of travel abroad Jews, including Sharansky, Guberman, Gluzman, Bogoraz and others. Persecution: I. Brodsky, V. Aksenov, Pasternak, Dovlatov, Mondrus, Mulerman, Horowitz N. Brodskaya. They wrote about state anti-Semitism in the USSR: Oleinikov, B. Strugatsky, Kartsev, Zhvanetsky, Gorodnitsky, Klara Novikova, Huberman, Sharansky, Rappoport. I can list endlessly. Every Jew has something to remember.
    2. Arabs in Israel are not only not discriminated against, but have a lot of benefits compared to Jews. Upon admission to work, study, do not serve in the army, have state support. The minority Arabic is the second official language in Israel. The Arabs of Israel are the most educated and wealthy compared to their fellow tribesmen in the Arab countries. What kind of discrimination can one talk about at all if the third largest political force in the holy of holies - the Knesset - is an Arab combined list. Which lobbying for lobbying pro-Arab laws. For example, the law on minarets. Yes, take even the little things. I can’t buy a bottle of wine at the Rami Levy super because the Arab cashier doesn’t want to pick it up. Not allowed. I personally have to roll the bottle through the photocell. And all the Jews in the queue are silent, because they believe that she has the right. Until recently, they received money for the loss of a breadwinner-terrorist. And the reaction of immigrants from the USSR is a national feeling + gratitude. Israel helped them to their feet. And the old people simply contain, although they have never worked in Israel. You are simply not in the subject.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 23: 25
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      Naturally, without justification by facts. These are excerpts from the article. There are facts. Me, what, especially because of your tantrums, can I upload the entire article here? There are enough facts for you to choke on them. You want, find this article, and read (excitedly).
      1. Tramp1812 Offline
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 27 2020 23: 32
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        Naturally, without justification by facts. These are excerpts from the article. There are facts. Me, what, especially because of your tantrums, can I upload the entire article here? There are enough facts for you to choke on them. You want, find this article, and read (excitedly).

        Sorry, but the tantrum is not mine. And it’s not me who uses such emotional overlaps about “obscurity”, “choked”. I can only assume, without claiming, unlike you, that one of the most successful states of the planet - such as you - is a bone and a throat. But what to do now. Relax and enjoy the fact that we finally left. And you live happily without us now. I'm happy for you. Rejoice and you are for us. Read the poem of the Russian poet Shiropaev about Jews. There are also such stanzas:

        They all left, why are you so sick,
        And the old hatred will not go away!
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 27 2020 23: 56
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          They all left, why are you so sick,
          And the old hatred will not go away!

          Here you are just "in the subject" wrote it))
          As I understand it, they left - so they left. There is nothing wrong with that. So no. You, like annoying flies), fly out into one door, and climb back into the other right there).
          What are you looking for on Russian sites? Moreover, the topic, though about you, is NOT YOURS! You know very well that Russia is fighting in Syria (at the request of the Syrian legitimate government!), If it is not against you, then certainly not on your side! But it’s your fault that Russian soldiers are dying. What do you need here on the forum? What understanding do you expect from the Russians here? You - personally - have come to crap here. Then you are still surprised - why are you so disliked everywhere? Yes, such a behavior in a normal person can cause nothing but disgust.
          1. Tramp1812 Offline
            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 00: 04
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            Quote: Dear couch expert.

            They all left, why are you so sick,
            And the old hatred will not go away!


            Here you are just "in the subject" wrote it))
            As I understand it, they left - so they left. There is nothing wrong with that. So no. You, like annoying flies), fly out into one door, and climb back into the other right there).
            What are you looking for on Russian sites? Moreover, the topic, though about you, is NOT YOURS! You know very well that Russia is fighting in Syria (at the request of the Syrian legitimate government!), If it is not against you, then certainly not on your side! But it’s your fault that Russian soldiers are dying. What do you need here on the forum? What understanding do you expect from the Russians here? You - personally - have come to crap here. Then you are still surprised - why are you so disliked everywhere? Yes, such a behavior in a normal person can cause nothing but disgust.

            I am just happy that Russians and Russia are loved everywhere. And there is not a single country in the world where, unlike the Jews, they do not love you. Poles, Ukrainians, Czechs, Bulgarians, Afghans, Hungarians, Finns, Americans, Georgians, Turks and further on the list. Take any people - do not miss. The trouble of people like you is complete ignorance. Because only an illiterate person can talk about the Asad clan - as the legitimate rulers of a sovereign country. Okay, I won’t, you won’t understand anyway. Do not feed the horse.
            1. Dear sofa expert. April 28 2020 00: 24
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              Do you consider yourself literate?) Then pick up smart books, and start by studying the “Assad clan”. Read his personal biography to get started. Where he studied, married, what circles he belonged to, who provided him with all kinds of political support, and maybe someday you will reach the place when and why he fell into disgrace with his “patrons”.
              About Russian I am not going to discuss with you. I will tell you one thing - I personally traveled half the world and can say: somewhere they love Russians, somewhere they respect, somewhere they are afraid. But I never met disgust anywhere and never!
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                radiootdel4 (Vladimir) April 29 2020 16: 10
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                Dear couch expert, your comments are accurate and concise, I personally agree with everyone.
                The article itself is really "about nothing." But here is the discussion ... that’s what is really interesting to read.
                1. Dear sofa expert. April 29 2020 16: 33
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                  Thanks for your kind words. The article is a coverage of the report of the state television channel of the Syrian Republic “Al-Ihbaria”, therefore it is not worth judging strictly.
    2. 123 Offline
      123 (123) April 28 2020 14: 07
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      The ending is just epic, I almost let a tear go. crying What kindness is unlimited. fellow

      And the old people simply contain, although they have never worked in Israel.

      For some reason, I immediately remembered the old joke:

      Petka is asked what he liked best in Chapaev. Petka let a tear go and says:
      - Oh, he was very kind .. And he loved children.
      - And give some example.
      - Yes, I remember now - we went with Vasily Ivanovich to May Day. They sat down, got a moonshine, a snack .. And then a group of children ran up: "Uncle Chapaev, give me a piece of bread!" And Vasily Ivanovich looked at them cunningly and said:
      - I'm not giving it.
      - Uhh ... But what is it, sorry, does his kindness manifest itself?
      - And he could have chopped his saber! ...

      So here you are about the elderly. yes I thought they were kept regardless of whether they worked for you or not, a little for other reasons, the motivation is somewhat different. By the way, there is one more nuance, you are obliged to do this, there is an Agreement between the Russian Federation and Israel "On cooperation in the field of social security".

      http://www.pfr.kirov.ru/node/2910

      Arabs in Israel are not only not discriminated against, but have a lot of benefits compared to Jews. Upon admission to work, study, do not serve in the army, have state support.

      Do not serve in the army? What does this remind me of? At one time in the Russian Empire, too, not everyone was taken into the army. Maybe you still introduce the Arabs of Pale of Settlement? Since they started copying errors, do not stop. Try to think about the relationship between these restrictions and the participation of Jews in the revolutionary movement. Do you even understand which time bomb you are laying in your own foundation? By the way, what about Druze, for example?

      The minority Arabic is the second official language in Israel.

      This is not entirely true.

      Hebrew is the state language. Arabic enjoys special status in the state; streamlining the use of the Arabic language in public institutions and when referring to them will be regulated by law. (Basic Law, Article 4.)

      http://knesset.gov.il/laws/ru/yesodru16.pdf

      By the way, it is written there

      Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people
      The exercise of the right to national self-determination in the State of Israel belongs to only to the Jewish people.

      Particularly pleased with the word "exceptional", does not resemble anything? Congratulations, the first step towards Nazism has been taken. yes
      1. Tramp1812 Offline
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 15: 13
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        Hello, however! They wanted to say something. Let’s, I’ll analyze your post by bones, but by bones.
        The famous Russian journalist Kirill Molchanov, when asked if he was Jewish, replied: Unfortunately, no. - Why? “Maybe he would have grown wiser.”
        This is me about the answer to my post. You write that you almost let a tear go. Well, it's good that at least only a tear, with such emotionality. First about the old people. An Israeli citizen, as in all developed countries, receives a pension based on his salary. But if an elderly Ole Hadash arrives who has reached 67 years of age (a lady is 62 years old), then he receives an old-age allowance, which includes: 3000 shekels a month for a living, plus another 1000 shekels a month for a living, plus disability, if any, plus discount on light, gas, water, travel - 50%. Plus exemption from land tax. Yes, and 500 shekels, if it comes from the Russian Federation. A little, but it doesn’t hurt. Israel also pays a pension to immigrants from Israel who have received citizenship in the Russian Federation. But I honestly don't think there are any. What did you not like? Tell me, we’ll fix it. I will not write about the situation of Jews in the Russian Empire, since they will immediately be banned. It’s a pity to beat Claud in vain. I could write a lot of things. You would read at your leisure A.G. Korolenko: "House number 5", Babel I.E. "The story of my dovecote", A.I. Kuprin: "Gambrinus", K. I. Stanyukovich "Isayka", Stepanova "Port Arthur". There is an answer about the participation of Jews in the events of 1917. There is no comparison with the situation with the Arabs in Israel. That is absolutely.
        Arabs. You are generally gone from controversy. And the Druze also serve in the army. As well as the Circassians, who are called Circassians in Israel. I already told you how they selflessly fought in 1948 for Zionism and the triumph of Jewish affairs. Their cavalry battalion drove the Arabs all over the wadi. And the beauty of the Circassian Amin Al Mutfi is generally a Mossad legend. The law on the Jewish character of the state was adopted 70 years after its reconstruction. In any national state, the Constitution begins with words such as Greece - the state of the Greek people .... What's so special? And the question of self-determination, naturally, belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. But you don’t need to replace the sacrament with “exclusively, with the adjective“ exceptional. ”You are a Russian, not a Chinese magician. Well, it seems, and everything according to your composition on a given topic. You have violated Mayakovsky’s wish:

        Follow this rule stubbornly,
        so that the words were cramped
        and thoughts are spacious!

        You, alas, everything is exactly the opposite. With Zionist greetings: Rogue Michael.
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          123 (123) April 28 2020 16: 45
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          Hello, however! They wanted to say something. Let’s, I’ll analyze your post by bones, but by bones.

          This is me about the answer to my post. You write that you almost let a tear go. Oh well? that at least only a tear, with such emotionality.

          Do you happen to work outside the clinic? With analyzes.

          The famous Russian journalist Kirill Molchanov, when asked if he was Jewish, replied: Unfortunately, no. - Why? “Maybe he would have grown wiser.”

          Do you think that mental abilities depend on nationality, and be proud of it? Your neighbors said everything about this, yes I have nothing to add. Go and bite dad. winked

          It is transmitted from the words of Ubay ibn Ka'ba that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If you hear someone proud of their origin, as it was in jahiliya, then tell him to grab his member father’s. And do not say it figuratively! ”This hadith is given by Imam Ahmad 5/136, al-Bukhari in al-Adabul-Mufrad 2/427, al-Nasai in al-Sunan al-kubra 8864 and many others.

          Then there are a lot of letters about how they nobly acted and did not leave the old people to die in the desert, just because they came from Russia. I don’t even want to comment on this. no Removed anyway. sad

          I will not write about the situation of Jews in the Russian Empire, since they will immediately be banned.

          There is no comparison with the situation with the Arabs in Israel. That is absolutely.

          Of course, what comparisons can be, they limited your rights there, and here you limit. How can this be compared. request

          Arabs. You are generally gone from controversy.

          How? belay She was? I wrote only one comment and at the same time left the polemic? Please do not write more of these things. laughing

          And the Druze also serve in the army. As well as Circassians, who are called Circassians in Israel. I already told you how they selflessly fought in 1948 for Zionism and the triumph of Jewish affairs.

          That's what I'm talking about. yes People were divided into 3 grades. One can do everything, the second is even allowed to serve in the army, however, at the same time they say - you can shed blood for a country, but this is not your country, and the third does not even allow this. The scope of rights depends on the nationality of the person.

          In any national state, the Constitution begins with words such as Greece - the state of the Greek people .... What's so special?

          Greek Constitution begins with words

          In the name of the Holy, Consubstantial and Undivided Trinity

          https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=http://legalns.com/download/books/cons/greece.pdf

          All power comes from the people, exists for the people and the nation and is carried out in the manner determined by the Constitution. paragraph 3, article 1

          There is not a word about the exclusivity of the Greek people, not a hint of limitation of rights depending on nationality. If you need an analogue of Israeli laws, I still have it, look in the city of Kiev, or whatever they now call it. Gradually get to them. yes

          And the question of self-determination, naturally, belongs exclusively to the Jewish people.

          I have nothing against it, do people who were born, studied, married, fought in this country think, but are deprived of this right, I honestly do not know. I think no.

          You are a Russian person, not a Chinese magician. Well, it seems, and all according to your composition on a given topic. You have violated Mayakovsky’s wish:

          Follow this rule stubbornly,
          so that the words were cramped
          and thoughts are spacious!

          You, alas, everything is exactly the opposite. With Zionist greetings: Rogue Michael.

          Thank you, Michael, I followed your wise advice, yes commented on any nonsense. hi
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            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 17: 54
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            I posted -

            ... in any national state, the Constitution begins with words such as Greece - the state of the Greek people ...

            I did not mean Greece. I did not read its Constitution. But you have kindly brought its beginning. Therefore, I can, referring to you, to state. The preamble of the Greek Constitution is discriminatory in relation to other religions: Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam. The only national, obligatory religion stands out. Thank you for concretizing my argument about the national state.
            Frankly, I did not understand at first why you attributed the Arabs' failure to serve in the IDF to the next machinations of Zionism. But you have decrypted. I must disappoint you here as well. Bedouin Arabs, far from radical Islam, serve in the army of the State of Israel, mainly trackers. And always served. For the rest of the Arabs, service in the IDF is voluntary. And primarily in the interests of the Arabs themselves, their security. Tribesmen: they will kill, and it is guaranteed. Another part of the Arabs does not want to serve in principle. It is their moral right to not turn weapons against brothers. For example, the Arabs - members of the Israeli national football team defiantly do not sing the Hatikva while performing the Israeli anthem. And no one takes any measures against them. And that too is understandable. The third part is sleeping and sees that, having received a weapon, wrap it against the Jews. Therefore, Jews need to think about their safety. Therefore, only voluntarily, no problem. And there is no discrimination here. Jews, also after 1949, were not taken to the KGB, although someone, and only Jews, made a decisive contribution to the development of intelligence and counterintelligence of the USSR. Read it at your leisure Sudoplatova, Mlechina, Gordievsky, Kalugin, Shebarshin, Lyubimov, Orlov (Feldbin), Kirpichenko. These are very authoritative people. Try: the road will be overpowered by the going one. With Zionist wishes for success in combat and political training.
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              123 (123) April 28 2020 18: 23
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              The preamble of the Greek Constitution is discriminatory in relation to other religions: Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam.

              What is the expression of this discrimination?

              The only national, obligatory religion stands out.

              Where did you read that the Christian religion is mandatory in Greece?

              Thank you for concretizing my argument about the national state.

              Religion and nationality are two different things. You do not understand the difference?

              Bedouin Arabs, far from radical Islam, serve in the army of the State of Israel, mainly trackers. And always served. For the rest of the Arabs, service in the IDF is voluntary.

              Great. So, they are people not of 3 grades, but of the second. good Does this radically change the matter?

              The third part is sleeping and sees that, having received a weapon, wrap it against the Jews.

              Maybe these are not Arabs, but this is partly your "merit"? In Chechnya, the first time after the war, the call was also not carried out. As you can see, the situation has changed. Maybe you should change something, or is it all right?

              And there is no discrimination here. After 1949, Jews were not taken to the KGB either, although someone, and even the Jews, made a decisive contribution to the development of intelligence and counterintelligence of the USSR.

              The question, of course, is interesting, however, as is a difficult one. But to our conversation is indirectly related.
              Do you justify what is happening now with what has happened in the past? Is that like hazing? Say, they did this to us, now we will come off on others?

              With Zionist wishes for success in combat and political training.

              Thank you, but all military and political training is long gone. hi
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    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) April 27 2020 21: 38
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    Well, the Rus.Vesna website, on the contrary, writes about the dead and wounded. What reflection success can one talk about, if at all only a few rockets were fired and then they didn’t shoot everything down ?!
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    Because only an illiterate person can talk about the Asad clan - as the legitimate rulers of a sovereign country.

    This can be fully attributed to the illegal fascist settlement - Israel, formed in the temporarily occupied territories of neighboring countries, and of course, it is surprising how much the fugitive Zionist immigrants for the Russian people are worried, they are teeming with it, they have stained the whole resource with their emotions. .
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      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 10: 46
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      Quote: 69P
      Quote: Rogue1812
      Because only an illiterate person can talk about the Asad clan - as the legitimate rulers of a sovereign country.

      This can be fully attributed to the illegal fascist settlement - Israel, formed in the temporarily occupied territories of neighboring countries, and of course, it is surprising how much the fugitive Zionists who are immigrant for the Russian people are worried, they are teeming with it, they have stained the whole resource with their experiences.

      Read more.
      Zionism is the quintessence of centuries-old aspirations of the Jewish people. It comes down to just two points.
      1. Any Jew, or a person with Jewish roots, has the right to return to their homeland.
      2. Security, culture, mentality, language, history, religion of Jews are guaranteed and protected by the Jewish state. Worldwide!
      The concept of "emigrant" for Jews in Israel does not exist. There is the term Ole Hadash, or Ola Hadash - who has risen (asya) to Zion. Well, and about the "runaway Zionists", it's you - 69 (you have a cool nickname-characterizing your personality) got excited. Israel never needed anything from the USSR, except for one: "Let my people go." They didn’t let go, just like the Pharaoh once. They planted, fired, disgraced, imposed exit duties, but did not let them go. How did this end for the USSR-to remind? Jews forced the authorities of the former state to release their brothers and sisters. And there, and the state of workers ordered the joy of all progressive mankind to live long .... So, no one fled. There was a big Aliya, repatriation. You are an "emigrant" to Israel, but I am not. Yes, nobody will let you go there. They were waiting for me and you can’t even imagine what they called. The late Israeli hero Sharon, when asked about the biggest dream of his life, replied: “I would go to the USSR, go from one Jewish home to another and speak. Enough, enough, we are all waiting for you, it's time to go home !!!”
      About the presence on the site. First of all: You forgot to ask. Israelis should not go to the Russian site - no problem. Let the site administration solve this issue, only officially. But it’s not for you to decide - 69. In addition, there are plenty of Russians on Russian-speaking Israeli sites. And they say whatever they like. They are not banned. There is democracy. Come yourself - make sure. Now: why are we here. And then, so that your hatred of all mankind and the Jews, as part of it, will be repulsed. That fascism does not happen again. On the part of people like you, convinced anti-Semites. There are no other goals.
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        sgrabik (Sergei) April 28 2020 13: 32
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        I have nothing against Israel and the Jews, but you got too excited about calling the West progressive humanity. You yourself are well aware of the policies and principles of the existence of Western civilization, and they are by no means progressive. Yes, and nothing lasts forever under the sun, the USSR has sunk into oblivion, but this can not be avoided by the "civilized" West, as smart people say - everything has its time !!!
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          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 16: 41
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          Quote: sgrabik
          I have nothing against Israel and the Jews, but you got too excited about calling the West progressive humanity. You yourself are well aware of the policies and principles of the existence of Western civilization, and they are by no means progressive. Yes, and nothing lasts forever under the sun, the USSR has sunk into oblivion, but this can not be avoided by the "civilized" West, as smart people say - everything has its time !!!

          I reproached about my association of the West with "progressive humanity" I can not accept. For the reason that I did not associate. Moreover, I agree with you that a sunset awaits any country of classical Western civilization. Spengler also prophetically wrote about this. A. Toynbee generally substantiated the argument that any civilization is passing. as the time of year, four periods: spring, summer, autumn, winter. And in winter it drops to the lowest point. So it was with Ancient Rome. Which is mired in luxury, debauchery and consumption. Engels wrote in his work: "The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State":

          A state in which a kilogram of fish is more expensive than a slave is doomed to death.

          In exactly the same way and for the same reasons, the Frankish Empire, the Arab Caliphate, the empire of Genghisides, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire disappeared. I did not include the USSR in this series. But not because the reasons were different. All the same. Plus, a complete loss in economic competition with countries with market economies and a suicidal state system of the Union with its well-fed national republics. Just these two factors accelerated the collapse. The promotion of LGBT people, multiculturalism, drugs, a departure from tradition, immigration from Arab and other third world countries brought the countries of the West to the autumn period. Jews survived all civilizations. And only for the reason that the basis of their life, I would say, the foundation was a tough, closed, very rational religion. Essentially - a set of laws on all branches of law without exception. Therefore, everything turned out: in the shortest possible time, Israel became the world leader in development, became a reliable defender throughout the world of a tiny, but very energetic people.
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 28 2020 16: 03
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        Tramp1812 You can’t say better. With a feeling of deep respect .... Close to this "sixty-ninth" did not stand with you either intellectually, morally, or from a universal point of view. Bravo!!!
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    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 10: 23
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    Quote: 69P
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Because only an illiterate person can talk about the Asad clan - as the legitimate rulers of a sovereign country.

    This can be fully attributed to the illegal fascist settlement of Israel, formed in the temporarily occupied territories of neighboring countries, and of course, it is surprising how much the fugitive Zionists who are immigrant for the Russian people are worried, they are teeming with it, they have stained the whole resource with their experiences.

    Your nickname is valid. Directly to the Jew - Sigmund Freud.
    Let us analyze the scattering of your Higher Thoughts, my emotional opponent.
    1. Israel (I omit the emotional husk in an insulting manner to one of the most developed countries on the planet - Israel) "fascist settlement" illegally created in the temporarily occupied territories of neighboring countries. I will begin, probably, with the fact that on the place of the barren desert, where modern prosperous Israel has been revived, for almost six thousand years there has never existed, except Israel and Judea, not one, I emphasize once again - never even a single state. In addition to the Jews, who again never left this land, other nationalities did not live compactly on it. Unless the nomads are Bedouins in small numbers, always loyal to the Jews.
    2. The lands on which modern Israel is located were completely redeemed by Baron Edmund Rothschild and the World Zionist Fund in the early 20th century. Golan, by the way, as well. A deed is available at the Israeli bank of Mizrahi.
    3. The basis for the legal reconstruction of Israel were: the Balfour Declaration, the decisions of the international conference in San Remo, the League of Nations and the UN. By the way, the territory of Israel, by decision of the League of Nations, included all of modern Jordan, part of the SA and the Golan Heights. Just in violation of everything and everything, the British changed their minds and transferred the Golan to France (Syria wasn’t in the bud at that time), they artificially created Jordan.
    3. All Arab countries outside the Arabian Peninsula were created artificially and never existed until the end of the forties.
    4. The official definition of fascism was given by the Russian Academy of Sciences in the early 90s on behalf of the first President of the Russian Federation - Yeltsin. According to him, fascism is a dictatorship without democratic freedoms, based on the racial superiority of the titular nation. There are dozens of parties in Israel, there is a separation of powers, there is not a single law that discriminates against national minorities, including about 400 thousand, mostly Slavs, who connected fate with the Jewish people. Arabs - to a larger minority of -1,5 million people have never been discriminated against. See my post above.
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    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 28 2020 20: 05
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    The only national, obligatory religion stands out.

    Where did you read that the Christian religion is mandatory in Greece?
    I read it here.

    Article 3
    1. The religion prevailing in Greece is the religion of the Eastern Orthodox Church of Christ. Orthodox Church of Greece, recognizing as our head our Lord Jesus.

    This is the Greek Constitution. Do you disagree with my postulate that the religion and nationality of the Jews coincide? I take the liberty of repeating that this is the case. Coincide, and even all 24 hours a day. A person may be at least a million times an ethnic Jew, but if he converted to another faith, he ceases to be considered such. Rather, it is considered dead, but not the death of the brave. A Jew who indicated in the questionnaire that he professes a different religion, or will hide this fact, in the first case he will not receive citizenship. nor permission to repatriate, in the second - will be deprived of citizenship. And vice versa. If a person is ethnically Russian, but accepts Judaism, he becomes an ethnic Jew. Example. Royal Russia. Subbotniki. Several tens of thousands of people. They adopted Judaism and were exiled to Siberia at the end of the 19th century. They repatriated to Palestine at the beginning of the 20th century. Preserved Russian names - Kurakins, Golitsyns, Orlovs. The names were Jewish. Completely dissolved in the Jewish people. Our legendary Sharon had a mother - a clean-up day. No one ever questioned his ethnic Jewry. Because he was born after she adopted an orthodox giyur. The same story with Orlov - he is Rafael Eitan - chief of the General Staff of the Tsakhal. Or with Anastasia Mikhalevskaya, who passed the orthodox giyur and became Michaeli. Former athlete, Komsomol member, and finally, just a beauty. In Israel - a well-known politician - a member of the Knesset. Julius Edelstein - pope in general - an Orthodox priest, son - a Jew. Knesset Speaker. Continue? Live and learn. And with the Arabs, changing politics is like death. You will take an interest in leisure time, which among the Arabs means the word hudna. And at the same time, the statement of the ex-prime minister of this country Wafsi regarding the peace treaty with Israel. Here it is. The policy of Israel from the very beginning was towards the Jews to work for Jews Arabs from Sudan, Yemen, Arabia in excess of tolerance. They received four wars in response, with the cyclopean amount of Soviet weapons and the absolute superiority of the enemy in all respects. In addition to the ability to fight, of course. And only the defeat and shame of the aggressors - Arabs, allowed to make peace with Egypt and Jordan. The leftists in Israel tried to make concessions, it almost ended in disaster. No, you can’t change anything. Moreover, the Arabs of Israel are already sitting on the Jewish neck. And they feel extremely comfortable in the Knesset, having the third largest fraction - the united Arab list.
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      123 (123) April 28 2020 22: 49
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      This is the Greek Constitution. Do you disagree with my postulate that the religion and nationality of the Jews coincide?

      I agree, nationality and religion coincide, but to determine civil rights by them, in my opinion. not properly. Do you want a mono-ethnic state with a single religion and consider this a great idea?
      In this case, people accept religion, either remain infringed on their rights or leave the country.
      With such beliefs, are you not comfortable with the policy of the Russian Empire towards Jews? As far as I remember, before nationality did not interest anyone at all, attention was paid to religion. Then what is the problem? The Jews faced a choice, or the transition to Orthodoxy, otherwise a loss of rights or emigration. What is the problem? Baptized and live in good health? What not?
      As far as I understand, this is clearly not to your taste, but in Israel do you think this is right?
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        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) April 29 2020 10: 52
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        Quote: 123
        This is the Greek Constitution. Do you disagree with my postulate that the religion and nationality of the Jews coincide?

        I agree, nationality and religion coincide, but to determine civil rights by them, in my opinion. not properly. Do you want a mono-ethnic state with a single religion and consider this a great idea?
        In this case, people accept religion, or remain infringed on their rights, or leave the country.
        With such beliefs, are you not comfortable with the policy of the Russian Empire towards Jews? As far as I remember, before nationality did not interest anyone at all, attention was paid to religion. Then what is the problem? The Jews faced a choice, or the transition to Orthodoxy, otherwise a loss of rights or emigration. What is the problem? Baptized and live in good health? What not?
        As far as I understand, this is clearly not to your taste, but in Israel do you think this is right?

        You absolutely do not understand me correctly. And that's why. Unlike large nationalities, Jews are very small people. And the religion among the Jews is both faith, ethnicity, and national self-identification. The loss of religion for Jews is the disappearance of Jews from the face of the earth as a people. Example: Assyrians who converted to Christianity. In Israel there is not a single law whatsoever, and cannot be, about the infringement of freedom of conscience. Indisputable evidence: The Arab Christian community in Israel is the only place in the Middle East where Christian Arabs are not in danger. In the Arab countries, Christian Arabs were simply slaughtered. But at the beginning of the 20th century there were 40% of the number of believers in the BV. I will say more, in Israel, unlike RI, your right to believe in anything, or not to believe at all. Similarly, there is not a single law and there has never been a restrictive right and freedom of citizens of any nationality and religion. If I'm wrong, name at least one law. Instead, you simply prove without evidence that, they say, Arabs in Israel are discriminated against on the basis of nationality. I tell you - this is not. Moreover, they have more rights than Jews when hiring, studying. They actively participate in the elections and have the third largest fraction through which they pass the laws they need. I already write about this to you more than once. But you do not react. Because you have a conviction against the Jews and Israel. Maybe envy. To the successes of a tiny state, where the minimum cost of living is $ 1200 per month.
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    it says they bombed

    They will bomb you, they will, do not hesitate, and not only in Palestine, but also in Russia, according to your affairs you will receive.
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      Jacques (jacques) April 29 2020 15: 38
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      They will bomb you, they will, do not hesitate, and not only in Palestine, but also in Russia, according to your affairs you will receive.

      Oh, scared. Well, why are you like this? What are you all brave, without leaving your home))) And I say, I took a ticket and go ahead, beat the Zionist hydra there in Syria ... so no, the gut is thin and the sofa is at least old, but comfortable))) Internet warrior. Are you going to bomb Jews in Russia or is it not about them? Would clarify.