NI: What if the Russian Zircon hits the US Navy aircraft carrier


Russia is testing hypersonic cruise missiles, launching them underwater from nuclear submarines. This is reported to readers by the American conservative journal The National Interest (NI).


NI draws attention to the fact that the modern Russian nuclear submarines of Project 885 Yasen should become carriers of the latest anti-ship Zircon anti-ship hypersonic cruise missiles, which "develop impressive speed." In addition, from the launchers (launchers) of these nuclear submarines it is already possible to launch long-range cruise missiles Caliber and universal Onyx supersonic universal anti-ship missiles.

It is specified that the combination of new nuclear submarines and the latest hypersonic missiles can lead to a serious advantage for Russia over the United States. After all, nuclear submarines can be under water for a long time, going unnoticed and deliver a sudden blow when necessary. Moreover, such a blow would be disastrous even for nuclear aircraft carriers.

Although it is believed that the Zircon is armed with conventional warheads, it hardly matters. Flying at hypersonic speed will provide so much kinetic energy that even a concrete-filled warhead will make a huge hole in an aircraft carrier

- clarifies NI.

The publication emphasizes that it is very difficult to evade or defend against hypersonic missiles, since such a weapon in itself has good maneuverability. Trying to bring them down in flight is a futile exercise. It’s the same as trying to “hit a bullet in a flying bullet”. Moreover, current air defense / missile defense systems are simply not adapted to counter such a threat.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 18 2020 14: 12
    -2
    Ah, NI Pushkova is just pouring water.
    Since not a single test for getting Zircon into an aircraft carrier, as well as an attempt to shoot down, was conducted.
    There are old calculations on the VO to overcome the defense of an aircraft carrier with subsonic missiles. 20 pcs.
    1. Let's try on the doodles.
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 18 2020 15: 24
        -12 qualifying.
        First try on your empty iron head.
    2. Igor Aviator Offline Igor Aviator
      Igor Aviator (Igor Aviator) April 18 2020 14: 51
      +9
      I understand how you want Russia to have nothing ... But, nevertheless, your lack of information about the event does not at all mean the absence of it. "Do you see the rabbit? No? And he is!" (from) laughing
      In addition, counting on a report with details of tests of a top secret product, on behalf of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, is at least naive! And stupid! fool Why - ask your mentors - Sytin, Gozman, Khodorkovsky, Amnuel, Kasparov and others like them ... They will at least be smarter ... yes
      1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
        Astronaut (San Sanych) April 19 2020 02: 48
        +2
        You write everything correctly, except for one:

        "Do you see the rabbit? No? And he is!" (from)

        There was not about a rabbit, but about a gopher. laughing
    3. shadow Offline shadow
      shadow April 18 2020 14: 54
      +2
      Granite and Onyx, are they subsonic missiles? It is immediately obvious that you are an amateur. You can also add "Volcano" here. Do not compare the American Harpoon, which flies at a speed of 0,85 M. and a range of 300 km.
    4. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) April 18 2020 16: 33
      +4
      There are subtleties. 20 pcs. - this is subsonic. There are also supersonic. And Zircon is hypersonic. For any not 20.
      What does it mean to "shoot down" a rocket? When Zircon reaches the home stretch, it is useless to knock him down, it is better to pray, it is calmer. The speed is such that it will still hit. And it will explode. A small-caliber projectile and anti-missile fragments will disable the guidance equipment and the engine. The speed is enough to fly to the side and smash it.
      When we tested our very first Comet cruise missile, the target was the cruiser Red Caucasus. Board armor - 75 mm. The first one to be tested was a version with a weight simulator of a warhead, with ballast. The missile carried the cruiser through both sides. Subsonic, based on the first fighters, such as the MiG-15. When a missile with a warhead hit, the cruiser broke in half and sank after more than 2 minutes. Now ships, in comparison with that cruiser - cans. And there stood the Krupp anti-shell armor.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 18 2020 15: 34
    -10 qualifying.
    Oh how everyone got excited.
    Dragged Granite, Onyx, Harpoon, Kasparov with Khodorkovsky.

    I especially liked the article

    ... a concrete-filled warhead will make a huge hole in an aircraft carrier.

    How armor-piercing shells were used in the Russian-Japanese war, and concrete bombs in 2MB. NI Pushkova, of course, is not known ...
  3. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 18 2020 16: 29
    +2
    What if the Russian Zircon enters the US Navy aircraft carrier

    Apparently, there will be a military conflict, possibly a nuclear one.
    Maybe no experiments?
  4. marciz Offline marciz
    marciz (Stas) April 18 2020 17: 32
    -6
    First of all, one must have the courage to shoot such a rocket at an American aircraft carrier !!! But in Russia there are no such people. They were not in the 80s, and will not be now, the Russian military is basically the level of a fearful ensign, all victories with the blood of ordinary soldiers are washed by their strength and will.
    Do not dream. All these new missiles, built at the expense of the Russians, will then be sold to the West along with drawings ((((
    1. Zenon Zenon Offline Zenon Zenon
      Zenon Zenon (Zeno Zeno) April 18 2020 18: 02
      +5
      fearful ensign level

      Are you talking to yourself?
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 18 2020 19: 55
        +6
        Do not judge him harshly. Galloped for a long time. Concussion.
        Probably, I got here through a VPN, I tried, apparently, I am still drawn to normal people. Maybe he's getting around?
        1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
          Observer2014 April 19 2020 02: 17
          -7
          Quote: 123
          Do not judge him harshly. Galloped for a long time. Concussion.
          Probably, I got here through a VPN, I tried, apparently, I am still drawn to normal people. Maybe he's getting around?

          Why do you judge Borzo people? I probably forgot that the article, not the commentators need to be discussed! Do not ask yourself in a rush to yourself, pleasant. Go down to Earth. It will let mother walk on the ground with her own legs. Not virtual friends.
          That's when there will be a clear and clear video of this "Zircon" hitting anywhere, then we'll talk in detail. In the meantime, this shaking will "spin" the ether. And nothing specific. Forgot to add. Throwing a rocket vertically down from a crane and passing it off as a hypersonic missile hit will not count. wink
          1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
            Astronaut (San Sanych) April 19 2020 02: 55
            +2
            I probably forgot that the article, not the commentators need to be discussed!

            And who said that? And where is it written?
          2. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) April 19 2020 06: 51
            +2
            Why do you judge Borzo people? I probably forgot that the article, not the commentators need to be discussed! Do not ask yourself in a rush to yourself, pleasant. Go down to Earth. It will let mother walk on the ground with her own legs. Not virtual friends.

            As I want, so I judge you, or something, to ask, a virtual warrior?
            How should I relate to this nonsense? A person has a split personality.

            First of all, one must have the courage to shoot such a rocket at an American aircraft carrier !!! But in Russia there are no such people. They were not in the 80s, will not be now

            What does it mean in Russia was not? And who is this? Mandaloretz? He, like, lived in another country?

            ... the Russian military is basically the level of a fearful ensign, all victories with the blood of ordinary soldiers are washed by their strength and will.

            Let them judge their punishers, they only know how to sit in boilers and fire at civilians. Every Svidomo will be pouring mud here .... am

            Do not dream. All these new missiles, built at the expense of the Russians, will then be sold to the West along with drawings ((((

            The whole country itself was sold at the root, and the upper layer of black soil remained with a bulldozer to be raked and taken out. And this will teach me life?
            Decided to get dull? So wipe the tears from your foreign friend and go both in the field. fellow
            There and talk about Zircon in detail. yes
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) April 18 2020 20: 11
      +2
      Americans after Ossetia and Syria are not so naive. With 2,5 thousand tons of gold in your pocket, you can be bold and independent. Unlike cookie lovers.
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    4. oracul Offline oracul
      oracul (leonid) April 19 2020 08: 18
      -1
      It seems, unlike what is written in the Decree of Peter 1,

      The subordinate in front of the boss should look dashing and silly, so as not to embarrass his mind.

      - They chose another option: when commenting on articles, pretend dashing and silly, so that stupidity was not immediately noticeable.
  5. dubovitskiy.1947 (Victor) April 18 2020 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    Ah, NI Pushkova is just pouring water.
    Since not a single test for getting Zircon into an aircraft carrier, as well as an attempt to shoot down, was conducted.
    There are old calculations on the VO to overcome the defense of an aircraft carrier with subsonic missiles. 20 pcs.

    Paranoid. And in order to get into an aircraft carrier in reality, you need to shoot at it? Can you target? With jamming and other gadgets?
    1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
      Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 19 2020 00: 00
      -1
      As far as I know, such firing was not carried out. And on VO laid out both our and Western calculations to overcome the defense.
      1. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
        Astronaut (San Sanych) April 19 2020 02: 56
        +1
        As far as I know, such firing was not carried out.

        If you weren’t informed, it doesn’t mean that there were no such shootings. wink
        1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
          Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 19 2020 09: 41
          -1
          Everyone, everyone has already reported:
          1) not in the fleet;
          2) carry out tests - how it flies and reaches land;
          3) on the ship, at least for some reason, until they burst.

          Maybe you are confused with ukrami? They have been wailing the ship recently.

          In general, there are no child prodigies yet. And given the slow manufacturing speed even of Caliber,
          Amer aircraft carriers so far can stand at the pier calmly (Urya-media shouted that there was a kapets in combat readiness) ... especially if it is filled with concrete .... as in the article.
  6. dubovitskiy.1947 (Victor) April 18 2020 17: 55
    +2
    Quote: marciz
    First of all, one must have the courage to shoot such a rocket at an American aircraft carrier !!! But in Russia there are no such people. They were not in the 80s, and will not be now, the Russian military is basically the level of a fearful ensign, all victories with the blood of ordinary soldiers are washed by their strength and will.
    Do not dream. All these new missiles, built at the expense of the Russians, will then be sold to the West along with drawings ((((

    It is not courage to have, but not to have a head. And in Russia, such a military is everything. With a head. But it looks like you, even though it is, is empty, since in such a simple situation it got lost.
  7. dubovitskiy.1947 (Victor) April 18 2020 18: 17
    +3
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    Oh how everyone got excited.
    Dragged Granite, Onyx, Harpoon, Kasparov with Khodorkovsky.

    I especially liked the article

    ... a concrete-filled warhead will make a huge hole in an aircraft carrier.

    How armor-piercing shells were used in the Russian-Japanese war, and concrete bombs in 2MB. NI Pushkova, of course, is not known ...

    That is why Russia lost the war with Japan, because in the Naval Headquarters, there were people like you. The Japanese destroyed our ships not with armor-piercing shells, but with high-explosive shells that demolished hundreds of square meters of armored deck sheets. Our landmines are 50 kg explosives and 4 times more. And this is without taking into account the properties of the wet pyroxylin of our shells (completely dry - extremely sensitive and prone to self-detonation) and their dry chimoses.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) April 18 2020 20: 17
      +2
      Well, shimoza - melinitis, picric acid - also sent many Japanese gunsmiths to the other world. Until they found a way to prevent corrosion of the iron shell: a piece of melinite was wrapped in wax paper, then wrapped in tin foil, then again waxed paper. They filled a shell with such sweets. Handwork, shells came out in gold. But how to explode !!!
      1. beeper Online beeper
        beeper April 18 2020 21: 17
        +3
        Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
        Well, shimoza - melinitis, picric acid - also sent many Japanese gunsmiths to the other world. Until they found a way to prevent corrosion of the iron shell: a piece of melinite was wrapped in wax paper, then wrapped in tin foil, then again waxed paper. They filled a shell with such sweets. Handwork, shells came out in gold. But how to explode !!!

        hi In Soviet times, he read the history of the Russian navy, chronicles of the battles of the RYAV, without disdaining fiction: "Port Arthur", "Tsushima", "Three Ages of Okini-san", ..., but such interesting technological nuances about the destructive Japanese land mines with the legendary "shimoza" did not know! winked
        Thank you for the informative information, dear Oyo Sarkazmi! good
    2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
      Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 19 2020 00: 01
      -1
      This is for the experts from the article. Concrete warheads - from there.
    3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 19 2020 07: 35
      +1
      Learn in more detail the influence of the figure of Mr. Kuropatkin on the course of Russian-Japanese.
  8. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 19 2020 05: 24
    -6
    NI: What if the Russian Zircon hits the US Navy aircraft carrier

    - A specific question has been raised: "What will happen if the Russian Zircon gets into the US Navy aircraft carrier ..." ...
    - I.e. it is about whether the aircraft carrier will fall apart after such a hit, go to the bottom or survive ...
    - And not about ...- whether Zircon will be able to get into an aircraft carrier or not ...
    - My opinion is that getting a Zircon alone will not be enough to sink an aircraft carrier ...
    - An aircraft carrier, most likely, will not sink even if its body breaks down ... in half ... - there are so many all kinds of bulkheads, special tanks, ballasts and other rescue equipment ...
    - But, probably ...- even if one Zircon hits also ...- the aircraft carrier will completely lose its combat ability ...-most likely, it will be so ... - What's the point that it will stay afloat ... - anyway, he will already be nothing of himself ... - Probably, so ...
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    2. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 18: 46
      0
      Ah, how is everything always simple with you). Maybe that's why there are always so many cons?
      But is there nothing besides “.. bulkheads, special tanks, ballasts and other rescue equipment ...” is there a nuclear reactor on board? Ah, that's why we didn’t think about it)
    3. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 April 21 2020 18: 14
      -6
      What is the sense that he will stay afloat ... - anyway, he will already be nothing of himself ... - Probably so ...

      yes good This is where you start your comment next time. Discussions about why, why, and how, like, for example, yours:

      The aircraft carrier, most likely, will not even sink if its body breaks down ... in half ... - there are so many all kinds of bulkheads, special tanks, ballasts and other rescue equipment ...

      laughing Anyone more or less familiar with the technique will dispute at the moment. What we see. But your conclusion is right. Let anyone try to challenge it now ?! Anyone interested? After "Zircon" hits the aircraft carrier, it will not be anything else! Anyone wishing to argue that after a hypersonic missile hits an aircraft carrier, it will remain ineffective?
  9. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 19 2020 12: 24
    0
    In fact, the charge of Zircon is approximately equal to the charge of the Caliber. Speed ​​is greater, range is less.
    Frames of getting Caliber into an Aircraft Carrier or an analogue can be viewed on the internet.
    1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) April 19 2020 13: 51
      -7
      In fact, the charge of zircon is approximately the charge of a caliber. Speed ​​is greater, range is less.
      Frames of getting Caliber into an Aircraft Carrier or an analogue can be viewed on the internet.

      - Are there such shots in real life ??? - This cannot be ... - This is a "toy" ??? - But there is only a version ... - this is not enough ... - But I will look anyway ... - interesting ...
      - Today you can easily create a very real video anime (even in 3D), where the Tsushima battle of 1905 would be chronologically thoroughly and in detail ... - But no one takes it ...
      - Thank you ... - and my plus to you ...
      1. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 18: 52
        -1
        Ah, do you also need the original video?)) You remind me of your old naivete as an old joke, where several skulls of Alexander the Great were in different halls in the Kiev Historical Museum. In the first room, Alexander’s skull when he was 14 years old, in the second room - when he was 18 years old, and in the third - 20.
      2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 19 2020 22: 57
        0
        While the 3D movie will still not be al natures ....
        All sorts of Putin cartoons are noticeably different from real shots.

        Alas, "Caliber" in the big ship in the internet did not find .. and in the small one too.
  10. Winnie Offline Winnie
    Winnie (Winnie) April 19 2020 16: 43
    -1
    NI: What if the Russian Zircon hits the US Navy aircraft carrier

    What if the Russian Zircon will not be adopted even after two years? Who will fantasize? Who needs these idle fictions and conclusions that are far from reality? A chicken in a nest, an egg in ...
  11. DPN Offline DPN
    DPN (DPN) April 19 2020 21: 58
    -1
    The nuclear war will begin. Do you dreamers need this?