"The Polish pilot clearly got his pants dirty": Bulgarians about the meeting of the F-16 with the Russian Su-35

April 17 2020 21

The Bulgarian edition of Facts drew attention to a video that appeared several days ago in the Russian segment of Youtube. On it, the Polish F-16 fighter approached a close distance to the Russian IL-38 anti-submarine aircraft, but the Su-35 of the Russian Air Force was driven off.

At the same time, the Polish combat aircraft released the landing gear. This sign in the aviation environment means a forced landing at the specified aerodrome.

"Reporter" previously described this incident. in details.

In the context of this event, comments of the Bulgarian audience are noteworthy. Bulgaria, as you know, has been a NATO member since 2004, and since 2007 it has been a member of the European Union.

He (the Polish pilot) put on his pants, in a word

- comments one of the readers.

The Polish pilot in a panic, realizing his helplessness, clearly stained the diaper

- echoes another.

The Poles are only bold in words, but how it comes to business ...

- appreciated the Polish courage Bulgarian reader.

Lost the chassis? In fact, the Pole meant that he gives up and takes off his pants!

- the user of the Facts website put forward an assumption.

This “scrap metal” F-16 had no chance against the super-maneuverable Su-35

- one of the readers is sure.

Yes, landing gear really means landing, but not in international airspace. The cruising speed of the IL-38 is about 450 km / h. For an F-16 fighter, such a speed at an altitude of 5000 meters is uncomfortable. Probably, the pilot released the landing gear to better hold the plane

- put forward the theory of the Bulgarian user.

From ourselves, however, we note that the landing gear opposite, on the contrary, increases the resistance of the aircraft to the incoming air flow, which means that it worsens the aerodynamic qualities and slows down the aircraft even more.

It is noteworthy that there are really a lot of similar anti-Polish comments on the Facts website, which makes us wonder - what is the reason for such a negative attitude of the Bulgarians towards the Poles? Both countries are members of the European Union and NATO. It would seem - allies, and not the first time. In the past, both states were part of the Warsaw block.

Apparently, things are really going badly in the “European house” and the misunderstanding between the countries will only intensify.

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Panting

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April 17 2020 10: 24

And how much a joyful stench would be if a lisp, on top of everything else, would also crash to the ground-th-th!
Alexzn

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April 17 2020 10: 34

There was a regular staff interception, the release of the chassis was associated with the problem of stability at low speed. Arranging a circus from a normal situation at the level of who and how did it, is silly.
1. gorenina91
  
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  April 17 2020 10: 51
  
  There was a regular staff interception, the release of the chassis was associated with the problem of stability at low speed. Arranging a circus from a normal situation at the level of who and how did it, is silly.
  
  - So it is accepted ... - this is the "site genre" ... You just break the "traditions" and "rules" with your remark ... - Hahah ...
Arkharov

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April 17 2020 10: 45
Yes, landing gear really means landing, but not in international airspace. The cruising speed of the IL-38 is about 450 km / h. For an F-16 fighter, such a speed at an altitude of 5000 meters is uncomfortable. Probably, the pilot released the landing gear to better hold the plane

- at least someone literate was caught, in contrast to the rest of the idiots. And were they Bulgarians?
1. Kristallovich
  
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  April 17 2020 11: 23
  
  at least someone literate was caught, unlike the rest of the idiots.
  
  What is literacy?
Sergey Latyshev

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April 17 2020 13: 32

And, it was already .... crap, everyone continues to suck ....
Now, it turns out, the SU-35 drove away ...

The fact that F even released the chassis in order to equalize the speeds (it can be seen that he barely keeps swaying so as not to overtake) and, apparently, take a selfie ...
It can be seen that it was difficult to drive off a barely flying F, and even going down after a selfie to a decline ....
With all his might for 15-20 seconds. drove the roller ... with aerobatics and overloads ...
Bulgarian Commentators happily in the purely Russian language are hooting ....
1. Kristallovich
  
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  April 17 2020 16: 23
  
  The fact that F even released the chassis to even the speed
  
  Something new. There is an air brake for this. On Russian planes, it is usually located behind the lamp, specifically on the F-16 on both sides of the nozzle.
  1. Sergey Latyshev
    
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    April 17 2020 17: 41
    
    Everything can be, but!
    As I know, this is a "parachute in miniature" - for landing, and to press to the ground ... the latter is not very comme il faut.
    
    And here you can see - he released - he leveled off at barely speed - he flew a bit (in the most advantageous place for the photo - you can see the engines, the noses of the aircraft) - removed the landing gear - began to overtake with a decrease (the pictures were taken) ...
    Maybe later on the radio and thanked for the selfie, but this, the stump is clear, was hidden ....
    
    It’s the most to posoboskalit and overthrow the hats !!!!
    1. Kristallovich
      
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      April 17 2020 21: 12
      
      You are wrong. The air brake is also used at altitude when it is necessary to drastically slow down the flight speed. Here, for example, our Su-27 approaches the patrol P-3.
      
      And the use of the chassis to slow down is, in principle, prohibited by the instructions. Free flow can damage the racks.
      1. Sergey Latyshev
        
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        April 17 2020 23: 00
        
        That Su, then F.
        The bottom line is to reduce the speed to a minimum, with a small initial ..
        At the salons let out, without sitting down, and nothing.
        
        On F it is visible that something sways right from slowness. At Su, the flight is smoother and more confident, rather the speed is greater.
        
        Look below, "Igor Aviator" also has an explanation, only in more detail and with technical details.
        
        Kristallovich
        
        +2
        
        April 18 2020 10: 19
        
        In salons, they are released as a precautionary measure. Flights take place at low altitudes. Igor Aviator's commentary boils down to the fact that the chassis is released by automatic equipment. Purposefully extinguishing the speed with stands is the delusion of the insane. For this there is an air brake that will cope with the task faster and more efficiently. This is the same as using the handbrake while there is a working brake pedal. And there is no efficiency, and the handbrake itself can be disrupted.
        
        Sergey Latyshev
        
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        April 18 2020 11: 47
        
        In general, it is necessary to ask the pilot, what for the chassis produced.
        1) take a selfie;
        2) show yourself as an idiot, confused the button;
        3) decided to knock grandmas off the media order so that those weeks would suck comments?
        
        In favor of the 1st, it still testifies that this is not the only video at low speeds where the aircraft are released, then the landing gear is removed.
maiman61

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April 17 2020 14: 27

... what is the reason for such a negative attitude of the Bulgarians towards the Poles?

- and who treats them well?
dubovitskiy.1947

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April 17 2020 19: 12

Quote: AlexZN
There was a regular staff interception, the release of the chassis was associated with the problem of stability at low speed. Arranging a circus from a normal situation at the level of who and how did it, is silly.

If you are a specialist in aviation, tell me how the released chassis can help, slowing down the speed and introducing unpredictable flows of air flow around it, to increase flight stability?
1. Ibuprofen
  
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  April 19 2020 02: 13
  
  Why is it unpredictable? F-16 on the conveyor for several decades, thousands of pieces released. All flight features are calculated, I think, to the smallest detail.
  In addition, there is no need to predict anything from a plane with an emf. The computer will do everything.
  Chassis, most likely, automatically released along with the flaps. The plane is pretty smart. Perhaps there is no way to release separately. There is only some standard landing configuration for flights at speeds lower than, say, 300-400 km / h.
hig

+5

April 17 2020 19: 15

Quote: Sergey Latyshev
And here you can see - he released - he evened out barely speed - he flew a bit (in the most advantageous place for the photo - you can see the engines, the noses of the aircraft) - he removed the landing gear - he began to overtake with a decrease

Let me explain to those who are "not in the subject". The F-16 was designed, on the whole, very well - the integral design, the engine is not bad, and the aerodynamics seem to be at the proper level ... This is where the engineers of General Dynamics GREATLY "missed", I would say, it is in the desire to save money on a controlled air intake. As a result, they have what WE HAVE them. To ensure the possibility of flight at speeds of about 500 km / h, the pilot MUST set the engine speed at which the power plant does not have gas-dynamic stability due to the lack of air intake control. (By the way, at supersonic speeds this is why Falcon often has engine surging.) In contrast to this, all OUR aircraft are equipped with controllable air intakes, which ensure the gas-dynamic stability of the power plant in the ALL range of speeds and altitudes.
In this case, at the altitude and speed that our IL-38 and SU-35 are flying, according to which the Falcon pilot sets the throttle speed to fly level, the F-16 engine simply “chokes”. To exclude this, the pilot is forced to set higher revs, which leads to an undesirable, in this case, a set of speed, which, AGAIN, IS FORCED to fight, already with the help of aerodynamic braking - by releasing the brake flaps or landing gear, which leads to a decrease in the already AERODYNAMIC stability. In this mode, especially with PTB, F-16, in terms of piloting quality, is close to a pregnant penguin.
Moreover, during the years of my service there was information that in a similar situation the F-16 onboard complex intervenes in flight control by extending the landing gear, relying on the indicated airspeed value, the position of the flaps and throttle controls, in order to "ensure safety" of the flight, considering these flight conditions close to the landing, regardless of the desire of the pilot. Which once again explains the categorical reluctance of the Americans to take PUBLIC participation in training air battles with our MiG-29, SU-27, and of course - with the SU-35!
And to top it off - for our SU-27 pilots flying in international airspace, it was common to "troll" the F-16 pilots in this way if they suddenly intended to "accompany" our aircraft. Usually, they had enough patience for 5 minutes, after which, sharply "forsanuv", they preferred to wash away.
Winnie

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April 18 2020 03: 05

What is the reason for such a negative attitude of the Bulgarians towards the Poles?

There are 500 Russians living in Bulgaria who have a negative attitude towards both Putin and the Poles.
gore

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April 18 2020 05: 37

I read the comments and I got the impression that the best of the best in the field of world aircraft manufacturing, as well as military aircraft testers of ALL TYPES AND TYPES, have gathered here ...
Istist

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April 18 2020 09: 07

From ourselves, however, we note that the landing gear opposite, on the contrary, increases the resistance of the aircraft to the incoming air flow, which means that it worsens the aerodynamic qualities and slows down the aircraft even more.

He released the landing gear in order to fly more slowly, with "comfortable operation of the engines".
Why would he try to forcefully land a plane if he knows very well that the 35th is flying nearby. And then also blame ..
dubovitskiy.1947

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April 19 2020 11: 13

Quote: IbuProPro
Why is it unpredictable? F-16 on the conveyor for several decades, thousands of pieces released. All flight features are calculated, I think, to the smallest detail.
In addition, there is no need to predict anything from a plane with an emf. The computer will do everything.
Chassis, most likely, automatically released along with the flaps. The plane is pretty smart. Perhaps there is no way to release separately. There is only some standard landing configuration for flights at speeds lower than, say, 300-400 km / h.

But what, air flows around the chassis elements with a laminar flow, easily formalized, and, therefore, incorporated into the algorithm control program? Or there are always unpredictable components, for example, speeds in the lateral direction, speeds at different heights (difference in densities), etc. The CAM computer will not be able to do anything. It is a pity that you do not understand such a simple truth. He CAN (and that is not a fact) do only what is laid down in the program. And this can only be done by man. Unless, of course, knows what to push there.
dubovitskiy.1947

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April 19 2020 11: 14

Quote: Winnie
What is the reason for such a negative attitude of the Bulgarians towards the Poles?

There are 500 Russians living in Bulgaria who have a negative attitude towards both Putin and the Poles.

There are 146 million people living in Russia, negatively referring to the Bulgarians, the Poles, and their compatriots who betrayed their homeland.