“The Russians would not have built such an aircraft”: Poles awaiting the arrival of the An-225


Today, the An-225 Mriya aircraft with a large batch of medical care from China is expected to arrive in Warsaw. The Poles chose this largest Soviet-made transporter in the world because of its unique carrying capacity: at a time, the giant created in the USSR to transport the Buran is able to take 250 tons of payload with it, which is an absolute record.


The specialized Polish publication Defense24 could not ignore this event. In this regard, I would like to draw attention to a number of comments by his readers on this article.

If the plane carries masks to the Poles, then in the news report the excellent characteristics of this machine, including its outstanding dimensions ... And if a transport worker participates in exhibitions in Russia (apparently, we are also talking about the An-124 Ruslan), then suddenly people begin to remember both its outdated engines and non-compliance with EU environmental standards , and so on ... The plane was created during communism and is a symbol of the collapse of the USSR ...

- notes one reader.

An-225 is not the largest aircraft built. This record holds a car created by the famous American aviator Howard Hughes. However, his H-5 took off only once and only a few meters above the water ... And in what terms more? It seems only his wingspan is larger

- doubted the second Pole.

"Ukrainian giant." The Russians could not have built such a plane. It is a pity that he is only one. The second is unfinished at the Antonov plant near Kiev

- the third commentator sighs thoughtfully, and immediately runs into the response of another user:

Utter nonsense. If anyone can now produce the An-225 or An-124, then only the Russian Aviastar-SP plant in Ulyanovsk. The chief designer of both cars is the Russian Victor Tolmachev. At the same time, Russia is not interested in resuming the production of An-225 and An-124, because it has a sufficient number of An-124 in the BTA, awaiting repair and switching to PD-35 engines (military vehicles do not need Western and Ukrainian certificates). At the same time, the Slon heavy aircraft is being developed, which will have a payload somewhere between An-124 and An-225 (180 tons), and also have operating costs 30-40% lower than the An-124. The IL-106 will have a much wider fuselage and cargo compartment volume, even larger than the An-225, because the body is relatively narrow.


The Chinese wanted to buy it (An-225). The drawings were definitely sold to them. But then they found the project too expensive and pointless.

- drew a line under the discussion about the unprecedented advantages of the Ukrainian “Mriya” Pole.
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  1. Ferdinant Offline Ferdinant
    Ferdinant April 14 2020 17: 44
    10
    But the Poles did not build anything at all, only muddied water.
    1. 123 Online 123
      123 (123) April 14 2020 18: 14
      +4
      Not really, they also produced Antonov's planes, at the WSK PZL-Mielec plant, though smaller in size laughing

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      2. orange Offline orange
        orange (ororpore) April 15 2020 10: 07
        +1
        They also received a license for the production of the ASh-62IR aircraft engine, which they equipped with their agricultural aircraft M-18, Dromader.
    2. boriz Online boriz
      boriz (boriz) April 14 2020 19: 12
      +8
      Well, why, before WWII, they had their own combat aircraft. For such a country - very good. They even made them for export. And after the war they made planes both their own and under license. Reactive, including. And the tanks were their own, not the worst. And before the war, and after. Interesting designs come across. And shipbuilding was on the level. But all this is mainly in the past. For the EU cookies, they leaked almost all of their production, like tribals. The cookies were devoured, but the industry can no longer be restored. There is no longer the USSR to invest in them for the second time. Themselves in the forefront and began to break up.
      I belong to the Poles without any complementarity, but objectivity must be maintained. What was - was.
      1. 123 Online 123
        123 (123) April 14 2020 20: 23
        +1
        But am I against it? Meant planes Antonov.
        1. boriz Online boriz
          boriz (boriz) April 14 2020 22: 08
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          Yes, I, in general, and not you, but Ferdinant.
          1. 123 Online 123
            123 (123) April 14 2020 22: 33
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            Yes, I, in general, and not you, but Ferdinant.

            Sorry, I didn’t figure it out. hi
        2. KB Antonova - this nerdy pot-bellied Nikita stole from Novosibirsk to his Nenka.
    3. But they build super-ships in Gdansk at the shipyards that Russia built for them.
      1. RICH Offline RICH
        RICH (RIK) April 15 2020 09: 06
        +3
        It was during the Soviet era that "Super-steamers" were built in Gdansk, from fish-processing floating plants, floating bases, trawlers to landing ships for the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries. Then shipbuilding was crossed out. Although they built two or three yachts a year.
        1. Ibuprofen Offline Ibuprofen
          Ibuprofen (Novel) April 20 2020 21: 11
          -2
          By the way, about yachts. The Galeon yacht shipyard operates in Gdansk, which is now breaking records in Europe. Inexpensive and excellent construction and design. They make good boats, I overtook this one last year - I really liked it. No worse than Azimuth.
    4. orange Offline orange
      orange (ororpore) April 15 2020 10: 01
      +2
      In Soviet times, the Poles produced a good agricultural aircraft Dromader and a helicopter PZL W-3 Sokół, which was already purchased in Russia.
  2. boriz Online boriz
    boriz (boriz) April 14 2020 19: 30
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    Well

    The Russians would not have built such an aircraft ”: the Poles are awaiting the arrival of the An-225.

    This plane was built by the USSR. Russians can build it. Ukrainians - for no reason.
  3. Andrey Smolin Offline Andrey Smolin
    Andrey Smolin (Andrey Smolin) April 15 2020 00: 03
    +8
    I myself am Russian and am 8 years old connected with Aviation and Cosmonautics. At the age of 14, I began to work in contact with A.N. Kosygin and with a variety of aircraft designers. During the years of service in the Army in the Air Force, I was happy to serve in Siberia and Ukraine and began to work with the Antonov company, since I served in the BTA.
    After the service, I studied and worked at Moscow State University and led the Energy-Buran Project, including the design and construction of the An-225, and also financed the creation of this aircraft and the creation of the Buran. He was happy when Buran automatically sat on the landing strip. Thanks everyone !!! It was our Common Victory !!!
    But then Ukraine refused to participate in the Energy-Buran Program. And the An-225 aircraft remained in one copy. We were ready to create several aircraft of this type. But the project was discontinued. Very sorry.
    Russians can and can do planes. And trying to humiliate them will not work. When NASA had problems, from the USA they called me at home and asked for help. Similarly, I helped Boeing and Airbus, and I flew on a Tu-160. At 10, I came for the first time myself at the LII named after Gromov and became associated with aviation and astronautics for life. Thanks to our Masters for everything !!! Perfectly taught us how to make airplanes.
    I will be glad if the conflicts between Ukraine and Russia cease and we can cooperate normally.
    1. begemot20091 Offline begemot20091
      begemot20091 (begemot20091) April 15 2020 14: 59
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Smolin
      Russians can and can do planes. And trying to humiliate them will not work. When NASA had problems, from the USA they called me at home and asked for help. Similarly, I helped Boeing and Airbus, and I flew on a Tu-160. At 10, I came for the first time myself at the LII named after Gromov and became associated with aviation and astronautics for life. Thanks to our Masters for everything !!! Perfectly taught us how to make airplanes.
      I will be glad if the conflicts between Ukraine and Russia cease and we can cooperate normally.

      I am also quite a "youth". And from the height of my years, having lived in Ukraine for many, many years, I will say: "Sick nation." Let them go through the forest, or rather stumps. Enough to help, build - thanks will not wait. A mother will be sold for a rupee. A little time will pass - the archives will open. You will be "pleasantly" surprised: on which side were more Ukrainians in the Second World War.
  4. John Silver_2 Offline John Silver_2
    John Silver_2 (John Silver) April 15 2020 00: 48
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    Antonov was actually originally located in Novosibirsk.
  5. Ivan Orlovsky Offline Ivan Orlovsky
    Ivan Orlovsky (Ivan Orlovsky) April 15 2020 05: 44
    +1
    I don’t understand something, for the third day in a row they tell us about Poles on Yandex. I understand that we need to know how the enemies live and what they do, but the Poles are fed up with death. Why not write about the horrors in the USA?
  6. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) April 15 2020 07: 45
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    It was the Russians who built this aircraft, and without Russians in Ukraine they can produce only burner ... Not a single such aircraft after the collapse of the USSR in Ukraine has been built and will not be built ...
    1. Ibuprofen Offline Ibuprofen
      Ibuprofen (Novel) April 20 2020 21: 14
      -2
      This plane was built by the USSR. No one else can repeat. Russia, too, cannot afford such a scale.
  7. Orange big Offline Orange big
    Orange big (Max) April 15 2020 10: 07
    +8
    The Poles can only envy any nonsense or envy someone with their tongue. They themselves are not capable of anything. And to call the Soviet An-225, created in cooperation with the Ukrainian Union, akin to the fact that the Second World War was won not from the USSR and its army in Germany, but by the mythical Ukrainian front. They just need to cheat. There is a conscious substitution of concepts. Someone is constantly trying to appropriate the achievements of the USSR.
  8. Alexander Kulish (Alexander Kulish) April 15 2020 17: 15
    -3
    How so??? GDP said that only galoshes were made in the USSR ???? But it turns out that in his presidential park there is a plane of the USSR! What have you done in 20 years? Unfinished Superjet and MS-20?
    1. Vasily Gubenko Offline Vasily Gubenko
      Vasily Gubenko (Vasily Gubenko) April 16 2020 08: 59
      +2
      Exactly, Russia is not doing anything, only as it has been carrying Americans into space for 15 years, it does it every 2 years on an atomic submarine, military planes like pies, it builds bridges every ten years, it builds nuclear power plants all over the world, a superjet made or unfinished, but sold more than 200 pieces .... What is one point that you and your Ukraine have produced in 30 years besides chaos?
  9. Put_NIK Offline Put_NIK
    Put_NIK (Andrey) April 16 2020 07: 20
    +3
    Hmm. The plane crashed. It was necessary to deduce its production from Ukraine.
  10. wassermine Offline wassermine
    wassermine (Dejan Baric) April 16 2020 09: 42
    0
    “The Russians would not have built such an aircraft”

    ... That's right, the plane was not built by Russians, it was created by the Soviets.
  11. wassermine Offline wassermine
    wassermine (Dejan Baric) April 16 2020 09: 48
    +1
    The Chinese wanted to buy it (An-225). The drawings were definitely sold to them. But then they found the project too expensive and pointless

    ... There is such a short joke:

    If the sport would really be useful, then 3-4 Jews would hang on each horizontal bar.

    So it is here. The Chinese are copying only useful equipment.
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  13. Eduard Egorov Offline Eduard Egorov
    Eduard Egorov (Eduard Egorov) April 19 2020 10: 55
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    Antonov was Russian, more than 50% in Ukraine are Russian.
  14. 17085 Offline 17085
    17085 (Dmitriy) April 20 2020 18: 17
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    Who are the judges? Psheki ?! They, in general, what are they building? Why bother talking about a nation of traitors?