Russia's obsolete healthcare system is better prepared for coronavirus


Russian doctor and TV presenter Alexander Myasnikov said that judging by statistics, coronavirus infection “spares” Russia. He called the situation a “Russian miracle” - by analogy with the “German miracle”, as he described the situation with COVID-19 in Germany.


Coronavirus clearly spares us, this can be seen from the numbers. Do not believe in morbidity - look at mortality

- Myasnikov wrote in his Telegram channel on the morning of April 11, 2020.

Myasnikov drew attention to the fact that in Germany there were 2,8 thousand deaths per 82 million people, while in Russia - "less than 100 per 145 million". He emphasized that at the same time in Russia they are testing "in absolute terms no less than Germany."

Maybe the truth is BCG vaccination? After all, in the same Germany, low figures, partly from a large number of East Germans, were required in the GDR of the BCG

- the doctor asks.

Myasnikov believes that much remains to be learned about the infection, "and most importantly, how stable the immune system is in this disease." He noted that COVID-19 "in the vast majority of cases, kills the lives of the elderly (70+) and chronically ill people."

Myasnikov was surprised that "a cumbersome and outdated health system with a focus not on primary outpatient care, but on hospitals, in fact, may be more adapted to extreme conditions." It turned out that in Russia there are more hospital beds per capita than in the West and "the world was surprised to learn that we have more ventilation devices and protective equipment than they have."

At the same time, Myasnikov urged not to relax. According to him, doctors can treat, but not stop the spread of infection. Citizens themselves must stop the pandemic, "taking all measures so as not to infect each other." He pointed out that there is such a thing as “controlled infection”. The doctor believes that "mortality from coronavirus is much lower than from influenza, and orders of magnitude lower than from other pneumonia." The main thing is to observe quarantine measures and not to panic, since panic "kills more than the infection itself."

We remind you that in a day in Russia 2186 new cases of infection were detected. 24 people died, 246 were cured. In total, as of April 12, 2020, there were already 15770 infections in Russia in 82 regions. 130 people died, 1291 recovered.
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  1. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) April 12 2020 13: 43
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    Coronavirus clearly spares us ....

    No, Dr. Myasnikov, it’s not he who spares us, but we, the Russians, such that our body is already accustomed to everything. And crappy GMO products, and our drink with all kinds of trichomonies, and our ecology is notable, solid carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide, that's why all this European weakness cannot resist us ... Now, if Muscovites would live like that, how the Russian province lives - without money, without work, in the mud, in ruins, without roads and without the necessary medical assistance, then they would not bother with this infection. But now the whole country considers them lepers, and yet they live at our expense, like Christ’s bosom, having lost their immunity both in life and in health from a well-fed metropolitan life, they relaxed without problems and without tension, and everyone has a result in sight.
    1. Blondy Offline
      Blondy (Blondy) April 12 2020 15: 23
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      Actually, there is no need to juggle it - it was not better health care, but the Soviet sanitary and epidemiological service was not completely destroyed. You don’t need to go far for an example: Shoigu did not have time to issue an order on the restoration of medical units (March 10), as early as the 25th they were in demand in Italy.
  2. 123 Offline
    123 (123) April 12 2020 14: 21
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    And why is it talking about an outdated healthcare system? It may be different, but why is it obsolete? After all, it speaks of a different approach to the organization of medical care. However, this is the opinion of the respected Dr. Myasnikov, he worked abroad, if I am not mistaken, in the USA, he can have any personal opinion.
    If we talk about the system itself, how it manages, I have a slightly different opinion.
    Firstly, the comparison of the number of dead and the country's population is not entirely correct. It would be logical to compare the percentage of deaths from the number of cases. The lower number of cases is due to the timely closure of the border with China, although in the western direction this is a problem, the borders were closed there late. Therefore, if we are talking specifically about medicine, how it copes and how effective it is in treatment, preventive measures to restrict entry should be considered separately. If we compare the number of deaths per thousand sick, then in Russia they are about 4-5 times lower, but the peak of the epidemic has not yet been passed, the numbers are not final, it is too early to draw final conclusions.
    Secondly, if we talk about the system itself, then it is worth paying attention to Ufa:



    In this case, the system failed, the consequences are still unknown. On the map -

    https://yandex.ru/maps/covid19?ll=51.192178%2C54.133390&z=6

    - the number of cases in Bashkiria over the two days increased from 40 to 84. How much will be in the end - it is not clear, perhaps not all test results are known. We are talking about more than a hundred potentially ill, and still need to check their contacts. I can’t even blame the women running away from the hospital through the windows, apparently, they correctly understood where they got. People with coronavirus symptoms were not stupidly tested there.
    Dear compatriots and residents of imported state entities, take care of yourself, sit at home. Unless, of course, there is such an opportunity. Nothing's over yet.
    I would like to touch upon fraternal Belarus, but this is a slightly different topic.
    All of health. good
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) April 14 2020 20: 35
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      And why is it talking about an outdated healthcare system? It may be different, but why is it obsolete?

      The system may not be bad, it was. Even, most likely, good. But she had almost no structure left, except in the “Moscow”, and even that, the question. Perhaps, from the time of the Great Derban, the warehouses of GO did not yet pull everything away, and maybe even timely disposed of old and replenished resources with new equipment. But who?
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) April 14 2020 20: 48
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        I can’t agree with this, I don’t know how you are, we have no special problems with the equipment. There was a lack of personnel, but I won’t complain about provision.
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          Bitter (Gleb) April 14 2020 20: 58
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          Cadres decide everything, and without them, any equipment is dead. And also this equipment needs to be installed somewhere.
          Now throughout the country, urgently, the “cardboard” hospitals began to rivet on the assembly line. Climatic regional problems are uninteresting, I wonder how much these houses cost from the fairy tale "Three Little Pigs" and how long will they stand?
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) April 14 2020 21: 03
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            There is where to install. yes And what to install too. yes

            Now throughout the country, urgently, the “cardboard” hospitals began to rivet on the assembly line. Climatic regional problems are uninteresting, I wonder how much these houses cost from the fairy tale "Three Little Pigs" and how long will they stand?

            So then they will be dismantled. If you mean 16 infectious diseases departments that the military are building, they will remain so. They are being built on the territory of hospitals.
  3. Termit1309 Offline
    Termit1309 (Alexander) April 12 2020 14: 52
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    Quote: 123
    And why is it talking about an outdated healthcare system? It may be different, but why is it obsolete? After all, it speaks of a different approach to the organization of medical care. However, this is the opinion of the respected Dr. Myasnikov, he worked abroad, if I am not mistaken, in the USA, he can have any personal opinion.

    The doctor simply does not want to lose a profitable place in the States. Therefore, the health system will always be outdated and ineffective. But the Russians are simply out of harm, and so that the United States will do nothing in spite of it, they will not die.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) April 12 2020 23: 44
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      And I thought he had been working with us for a long time. It seems like he's back.
    2. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) April 14 2020 20: 48
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      ... Russians are just out of harm ...

      Russia is not only made up of Russians, here, rather, the so-called “social scissors” play a role between those who have / had possible import contact and those who simply - there is no way to travel outside their province, for example, for financial reasons . So God forbid that this "viral tsunami" would rather stop.
      Paramedic points weren’t even everywhere until recently, and you are talking about the system. The name of the system, "maybe" and low incomes of the population, that is poverty.
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    KLV (Konstantin) April 12 2020 16: 49
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    The word "obsolete" should be quoted. And then many commentators did not understand the sarcasm of the anonymous and not very competent author.
  5. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergey G) April 12 2020 21: 48
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    This “outdated” system turned out to be better prepared for coronavirus because it has not yet managed to optimize everything, as, for example, in Italy and the USA!
  6. Aleksandr2020 Offline
    Aleksandr2020 (Alexander Vk) April 12 2020 21: 56
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    There is no miracle, you just need to compare the numbers.
    In Russia, there are 2-3 times more doctors and beds per capita than, for example, in the USA. (WHO data).
    In Europe, a little better, but not really ... Germany alone, in terms of the number of doctors and hospitals, is catching up with Russia.
    In Russia, 5 times more ventilation per capita than, for example, in France.
    And the rates of the spread of the virus and mortality directly depend on these numbers.
    And they are one of the lowest in Russia.
    Italy ~ 12% mortality.
    Russia ~ 0.7% mortality.
    1. savage1976 Offline
      savage1976 April 13 2020 05: 57
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      The bed itself is not important, but it is important to equip the bed with the equipment and the number of doctors. A simple example, you have 3 hospitals with 100 beds each, a therapist in one hospital, a surgeon in another, and an anesthetist in the third. In fact, only one hospital can work, and even with medical treatment, the rest give just beds. A therapist without a surgeon, a surgeon without an anesthetist will not perform an operation, an anesthetist without a surgeon too, and without a therapist no one will correctly diagnose patients. We need the right balance of beds, equipment and medical staff.
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 12 2020 23: 35
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    Right. Do not have time to optimize. No matter how the hospitals are drained, no matter how the doctors are cut, they are. While there.
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    Alexzn (Alexander) April 13 2020 19: 09
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    1. Chickens in the fall count.
    2. In Russia, the proportion of the age group of 70 is much lower and higher than in the most affected Italy, Spain and France.
    3. In Russia, one of the strongest sanitary services in the world, not all the benefits of Soviet health care are lost.
    4. The ability of private medicine to change organs and perform operations should not be confused with the ability of state medicine to withstand epidemics and emergencies.
    5. The situation with coronovirus in the Russian Federation will be relatively correctly compared with China, Germany and Israel.