Fellow Putin: President may soon be stripped of power


The coronavirus epidemic, which has not passed even Russia, has given rise to numerous “experts” and “analysts” once again to raise the topic of Putin’s removal from power.


This time, a former KGB officer, a traitor Yuriy Shvets, who lives in the USA and is known for earning his bread by generating crazy "insights" for the Ukrainian media of the lowest standard, suffered.

In an interview with the Ukrainian publication Gordon, Shvets, who claims to be a fellow student of Vladimir Putin, said that the close circle of the Russian president could take advantage of the coronavirus situation to remove him from his post.

In particular, Shvets recalls one of the “discussions” with the participation of the same “experts” as he himself:

During the discussion, I suggested that Putin’s inner circle could imitate the “big war” to blame Putin himself, deprive him of power and get indulgence for all past crimes from Washington for this.


He further added:

And now, when the whole world fell silent in alarming expectation of the further development of the pandemic, and Putin fled to Valdai, I involuntarily have a suspicion: has it really begun?


Recall that the "analyst" Yuri Shvets owns the version that the coronavirus was introduced into the territory of Chinese Wuhan from ... Russia.

According to information from the English-language Wikipedia, in 2006, Yuri Shvets was a potentially key witness in the case of poisoning of former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko.
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  1. Kostyar Offline
    Kostyar April 5 2020 08: 56
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    Catch and eliminate ....
    1. Observer2014 Offline
      Observer2014 April 5 2020 09: 38
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      Quote: Bone
      Catch and eliminate ....

      To kill a man of great mind is not necessary. You need to be more creative in your approach to the process. wink Catch and on the Russian pension beyond the Moscow Ring Road forcibly keep. laughing
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) April 5 2020 10: 33
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        Catch and on the Russian pension beyond the Moscow Ring Road forcibly keep

        Yes you are a sadist.
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) April 5 2020 10: 49
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        Quote: Observer2014
        Catch and on the Russian pension beyond the Moscow Ring Road forcibly keep

        To the KGB pension? For MKAD? Yes, he will rebuild a three-story palace there!
        This is what infuriates colonels and generals who have escaped from the USSR and Russia - their former subordinates fry kebabs in their villas in the Moscow Region, and they are forced to work in welfare at 80 and huddle in Brighton apartments.
    2. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) April 5 2020 10: 33
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      Catch and liquidate

      You have already been caught in London. Well, that easily got off.
      1. S.V.YU Offline
        S.V.YU April 5 2020 10: 56
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        So you believe brazenly British cheap fiction! Well, if this is your job, then of course!
        1. mor7d Offline
          mor7d (mor7d) April 5 2020 10: 59
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          So you believe brazenly British

          And who to believe? You, these two .... - lovers? After their interview, my last doubts disappeared.
          1. isofat Offline
            isofat (Sergei) April 5 2020 11: 20
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            Quote: mor7d
            And who to believe? You, these two .... - lovers?

            mor7d, believe yourself ... a professional. smile
            1. mor7d Offline
              mor7d (mor7d) April 6 2020 09: 39
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              isofat, believe yourself ... a professional. laughing
          2. Dear sofa expert. April 5 2020 20: 21
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            The British, so stupid people that they can shove the cart only in their own national manner. Another in their ram’s head does not fit. Hence these delusional versions of "purely English murder." Does this phrase say nothing to you? Well, yes, how do you know that. You probably didn’t read Cyril Hale’s novel of the same name. Yes, and apparently he has not yet been transferred to mov.
            1. Optimist sidorov (Optimist Sidorov) April 6 2020 14: 59
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              And why did you get that they are stupid ??? In my opinion, all of today's Russian leadership will be there in this stupid England!
      2. 321 Offline
        321 (321) April 5 2020 11: 15
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        Quote: mor7d
        ... You have already been caught in London. Well, that easily got off.

        Personally, no one thought to forbid you to think so, but now in international diplomacy a new term has appeared, and it’s not the first one - the first one was “hacking”, but the second one is more scientific - “highly likely" ...
        Believe further. bully
        1. King3214 Offline
          King3214 (Sergius) April 5 2020 13: 07
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          This is "mor7d (mor7d)" lol
          We have already found out that he is completely divorced from reality.
          Presumably - he stole a smartphone and writes under the covers until he sees the orderlies. laughing
          1. 321 Offline
            321 (321) April 5 2020 13: 10
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            It’s not enough for me where and how he writes, the main thing is that his posts should not be left completely unanswered - in my opinion ...
            1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 16: 14
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              Do not feed the troll.
              1. Dear sofa expert. April 5 2020 20: 23
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                He is fed by the one who writes such articles.
            2. mor7d Offline
              mor7d (mor7d) April 6 2020 09: 40
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              the main thing is not to leave his posts completely unanswered

              good
    3. polev66 Offline
      polev66 (Alexander) April 5 2020 10: 33
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      Well, get your ass off the couch, get busy ... the kitchen liquidator.
  2. Rus Offline
    Rus April 5 2020 09: 06
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    It would be good, it would be good.
    1. Observer2014 Offline
      Observer2014 April 5 2020 09: 48
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      Quote: Rus
      It would be good, it would be good.

      What well? Are you talking about the murder? For what? Because that uncle earns his bread? So the times are such that many do not understand how they earn their living. Do we have the most fair system in Russia? Is not it? Well, it was necessary to bury socialism in order to understand what we had done. They didn’t bring anything to mind. No tsarism. Not communism. Nor socialism. Now here’s a parody of capitalism, everyone understood that this is not ours. They are pushing, puffing, and a stone flower does not come out. A rollback to socialism is the only thing that will save us all. Do not believe? Well, wait.
      1. Rus Offline
        Rus April 5 2020 15: 08
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        Nah, I'm talking about the headline.
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 5 2020 20: 24
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          I think the one who comes instead will like you even less.
      2. Ser sash Offline
        Ser sash (Ser Sash) April 6 2020 11: 16
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        Only now there is no time to check at all. As long as we break it, while we fix it, life will pass.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 5 2020 09: 43
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    Ha. As always. And what do they say in the USA and Ukraine .... ???
    1. S.V.YU Offline
      S.V.YU April 5 2020 10: 58
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      So US is not up to it! Well, UKRAINE is waiting for what they say overseas!
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    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) April 5 2020 09: 48
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    It’s better to listen to what Shvets says in the original and speaks both of the “sun-kissed” himself and of the entire “Kremlin cuisine”. Informative. On Youtube there is his interview on Gordon and not only:



    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 5 2020 20: 02
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      I already told you Fat, in my past comments - they would write more positive things and spread less nasty things - and you would be happy!
  5. mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) April 5 2020 10: 32
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    Fellow Putin: President may soon be stripped of power

    I wonder where he was a fellow student? Where did you study?
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 5 2020 20: 02
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      In vn ... GDP did not study there.
  6. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 12: 29
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    The opinion of a person with reduced social responsibility is very important.
  7. King3214 Offline
    King3214 (Sergius) April 5 2020 13: 04
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    There was one such in the USA, a former KGB officer. So he choked on a piece of meat and died.
    Accident. What a sorrow ...
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    kriten (Vladimir) April 5 2020 13: 14
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    Those who broadcast from the United States voiced the templates proposed by the State Department and the CIA - these are just traitors .... Almost nothing has a bearing on the truth. Their task is to throw fakes for grandmas.
  9. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 13: 20
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    I think if a miracle happened and Vlasov would tell about Putin, the liberal public would throw flowers at him and make a standing ovation.
    1. A.Lex Offline
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 5 2020 20: 03
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      Which Vlasov?
      1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 20: 07
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        One whose last name, with a capital letter, is a sin. But the program rules.
  10. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker April 5 2020 14: 06
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    Putin will live and rule forever! Because the well-being of Sechin, Miller, Gref, Chubais, Nabiullina and the whole party of EP and their FAMILY depends only on Putin. Therefore, even if Putin dies someday, doubles are probably ready. And such speeches, especially traitors, will periodically appear as advertisements for the "king"! How are they afraid and respected all over the world !?
    1. Accidentally Offline
      Accidentally April 26 2020 07: 48
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      Do not forget - the rat is in the bunker.
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    boriz (boriz) April 5 2020 14: 49
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    Who is there to listen to? Shvets is just nobody.
    And Gordon - yes! The great builder of the golden pyramids that he heals cancer. A dirty crook responsible for many gullible, dead from cancer. We spent all the money on the stupid pyramids, and when they realized that they had been thrown, there was no money or time left for treatment. There are a lot of materials on the Internet on pyramids and on a bunch of "psychics" fostered by him. Bastard.
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    Roarv (Robert) April 5 2020 14: 51
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    Fellow student - I do not know. .... about ... London, Novice, allegations of "depriving the government" ....
    I know one thing, would you go away with our librales and your western crap ... to your mattress homeland ..
    And then, after all, Russians are able and remember the skills of working with an ice ax ....
    1. Rus Offline
      Rus April 5 2020 15: 11
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      Russians are not you! Actually! Many Russians here and think differently!
      1. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) April 5 2020 20: 06
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        Dima, just like you, are just a minority. And to traitors, nits in Russia, there was always one relationship - either a bullet or a rope.
        1. Rus Offline
          Rus April 6 2020 10: 36
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          This is where I agree, I'm in the minority! I'm here looking for a different opinion of people, not support for my beliefs! I read information from various sources, then analyze and impose on the reality around! And here you are only fueling your opinion imposed!
          1. A.Lex Offline
            A.Lex (Secret information) April 9 2020 14: 30
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            Dimochka, well, look for them at home - in the USA! What are they pushing at us for? Or like that of a Jewish citizen who pours dirt on his former homeland, because he could not get settled in Israel? Or maybe they just pay you well?
            1. Rus Offline
              Rus April 9 2020 18: 10
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              Alyosha rereads the text of the TV. Kissel drank and listened to Nightingale and the expert!))))
              1. A.Lex Offline
                A.Lex (Secret information) April 10 2020 16: 41
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                Dimochka, delve into your American news and problems, delve into your d ... We will sort it out ourselves.
                1. Rus Offline
                  Rus April 10 2020 20: 17
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                  I live here in this country and my children, and I am not interested in the opinions of the old-timers who have drunk the USSR! And if you are paid from the Kremlin for propaganda, then do not consider yourself important!
                  1. A.Lex Offline
                    A.Lex (Secret information) April 11 2020 21: 56
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                    Bugaga! 9999 - is it you again? I wrote to you - show me the bills, where it would be indicated that someone paid me something ?!
                    I would be glad to be paid for promoting the ideas of Russian statehood, bringing Russian laws to normal SOCIALIST status, normal imputed censorship (unlike your American) and normal state (built in the interests of the people, not its individual representatives) economy.
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                    2. Rus Offline
                      Rus April 12 2020 11: 05
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                      You defend individual representatives! And you have a lot of calls for reprisals of entire nations! It is unlikely that you will convince me that you are sane.
                  2. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) April 11 2020 22: 20
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                    Quote: Rus
                    I live here in this country and my children, and I am not interested in the opinions of the old-timers who have drunk the USSR! And if you are paid from the Kremlin for propaganda, then do not consider yourself important!

                    So the former Dimon revealed what he really thinks and what he wants - well, you should not be forbidden to dream, so continue to dream further ...
                    And as for the old-timers - well, as you wrote here, they already have a pension, but you don’t have it and never will, that’s the green amphibian that crushed you, and until you forgot, you wrote here before that " you analyze "information - you need to know how to do it, you, judging by your comments, do not get the analysis from the word at all ... bully
                    PSYour opinion is also “interesting” to everyone - you, although not ours, have lately changed your tactics — you started writing with slogans, like sarcasm or humor - nu-nu. hi
                    1. Rus Offline
                      Rus April 12 2020 11: 07
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                      Yes, I did not change anything. As I wrote, I am writing! Life in the promise is your bottom!
                      1. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) April 12 2020 12: 27
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                        Quote: Rus
                        Yes, I did not change anything. As I wrote, I am writing! Life in the promise is your bottom!

                        Are you sure that you are able to teach me life? bully
                        Teach your kids, and with my life and what to do, I myself will completely figure it out - without prompts and your attempts to inject me - you need to grow up in this, you still do not pull. laughing
                        PS About what has not changed - didn’t you just recently have your nickname sounded different? negative
                      2. A.Lex Offline
                        A.Lex (Secret information) April 13 2020 14: 27
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                        321, this is his THIRD. He generally had a nickname of 9999 - he also showed me there that they were paying me. I told him there too - present evidence and where should I withdraw money from (from which account). So he quickly merged. So here I started to draw some nonsense. Although he is stupid, like a cork, but still - the enemy.
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    2. Dear sofa expert. April 5 2020 20: 36
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      And certainly not you, definitely. And they love you "not really."
  • 69 Offline
    69 April 5 2020 15: 37
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    It was a fatal mistake to sign pension genocide to the population, to please the thieves' oligarchy.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 5 2020 20: 40
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      Raise the retirement age sooner or later, apparently, would have to. Do you think Putin should have left this step to his successor better? That he from the very beginning of the board made unpopular political decisions?
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) April 11 2020 22: 29
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        Raise the retirement age sooner or later, apparently, would have to. Do you think Putin should have left this step to his successor better? That he from the very beginning of the board made unpopular political decisions?

        Before raising it for the population, it was possible and necessary to do a lot of things that greatly mitigated this "effect". Officials receive a pension according to their own laws and in a much larger amount, even as a percentage of their salary, further - if the salary is more than 100 k, not 22 but only 10 percent are handed over to the FIU, after one term in the Duma it gets the right to - no, it’s not the pension is called, now I’m writing from memory, it’s kind of a benefit, but its size is impressive. The list goes on, but here is the point of this continuation ...
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 01: 03
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          Officials in all other countries live better than the people. What is the point of discussing this? Raising the retirement age has quite objective reasons. The population is aging (average). Young people study longer (several higher educations are in fashion now .. absurd, but true) And a pensioner, though not by much, has lived longer. This means that in the end, each pensioner has fewer and fewer employees. Therefore, the increase was inevitable. Is it really not clear?
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            321 (321) April 19 2020 08: 26
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            Quote: Dear couch expert.
            Officials in all other countries live better than the people. What is the point of discussing this? Raising the retirement age has quite objective reasons. The population is aging (average). Young people study longer (several higher educations are in fashion now .. absurd, but true) And a pensioner, though not by much, has lived longer. This means that in the end, each pensioner has fewer and fewer employees. Therefore, the increase was inevitable. Is it really not clear?

            Everything you have written for a long time is no secret, BUT how much does it correspond? As for the aging of the population - understand, paper - it will withstand everything. One of the relatives worked for me in the very statistics - although for the only time, after a glass of tea, it broke through what is called concrete facts, surnames, etc., so I’m far from thinking that what they give us for aging and life expectancy, really corresponds to reality. As for youth - an even more fashionable trend - DO NOT learn at all, the main thing is that you know how, but don’t care about crusts ...
            And, most importantly, the idea and implementation - it could be done in different ways, in this case they chose almost the worst option - IMHO, of course.
            1. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 11: 06
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              In this case, population aging refers to the index of its workers. He moved up. That is, for one reason or another, people began to work later. The reasons are different. Need to really list them? Well, here's a simple example: today unskilled professions are less and less in demand. Qualification = time. Anyway, today young people study longer (including at school), do not dare to marry longer, in a word, they mature later. And this is not only in Russia. Worldwide.
              On the other hand: there are fewer working pensioners. There are many reasons too. Starting with an increase in the qualification (and other) threshold of demand, ending with (right now, I will probably piss you off) by raising the general standard of living.
              Well, to the main thing: The idea of ​​raising the retirement age is not new, and does not belong to Russia. Just the opposite.
              Tell me the countries in the world where the retirement age is lower, even today, in Russia? You will be surprised if you have enough fingers on your hands (or even on one). Discussions about the average life expectancy are meaningless for your own reasons: the statistics will withstand everything. If you knew how the statistical life expectancy in a number of Western countries was increased, you would not want to become such a “long-liver.” If you want to discuss this topic, I’m ready.
              With all this, comparing this duration with the Russian is not particularly correct. Russia is very large, it has many climatic zones. This is also a factor not for good statistics. Remember the toast: “for Siberian health”?) So, I myself was born and raised in Siberia. And I know what annual temperature fluctuations are from +40 to -40 *. This is a guaranteed wear and tear of our body. Something like that.
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                321 (321) April 19 2020 13: 14
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                Everything written by you does not refute in essence my main thesis - the idea came out very well, I don’t know for what reasons, and it’s not too interesting for me - who specifically chose this option for reform, but one thing is clear right away - The consequences for the authorities, including, were, are and will be, and will for a long time be quite negative - both economically and politically, and in a few more ways ...
                And the fact that you are making almost the main emphasis on the fact that this is a global trend is rather confirmed yesterday by the idea that this trend itself is not so stubbornly promoted and advancing - the USSR is over, there is nothing for the working people to indulge, it’s time to take it back all those "buns" that they received, including under the influence of the USSR. There is a whole complex of ideas and not only that are already being implemented yesterday and are being steadily promoted ...
                1. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 15: 11
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                  You have chosen a convenient (liberal) position: to criticize everything, deny everything, and at the same time not offer anything in return. Once again: it’s convenient, but absolutely not constructive. Therefore, by the way, in no normal country, liberals are never allowed into the head of power. The destiny of the liberal is eternal opposition. There, the liberal is strong with his “cries from the audience”: “This will not work! You can not do it this way! How is it possible? Well, it’s up to you to decide. ”) Now let’s essentially. Here you are "Exclaimed":

                  .. I don’t know for what reasons, and it’s not too interesting for me - who specifically chose this option for reform, but one thing is clear right away - the consequences, for the authorities, including, were, are and will be, and for a long time will be quite negative - both economically and politically and in a few more senses ....

                  Good. That is, you kind of agree that reform is needed, but somehow not so .. somehow differently.) I listen to you very carefully. WHAT WAS BETTER? (announce the whole list, please))
                  By "..SSSR ended .." the USSR is not with your (conditionally) liberal filing "ended"? Do not people like you go out to the square to support all kinds of “Yeltsin / Bulk”? If not, clearly define your position.
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                    321 (321) April 19 2020 16: 09
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                    I have already determined my position a long time ago - did the government decide that it was she, the most and further down the list? bully So let it dissipate the consequences. What you wrote here - about inheritance, positions, rallies, etc. - alas, by, not about me. hi And the list was ALREADY, only you somehow didn’t notice it — which prevented the abolition of those same Duma allowances, or the reduced contributions from large salaries in the PFR, but the government decided that it would do it — alas, it didn’t. The fact that few people came to the rallies does not mean anything. It’s enough to listen to conversations - even in OT, even on benches, before this isolation, and birth benefits will not give the effect that they expected, because the slogan “people are new oil” has not been canceled, right? Many have already understood this, so it’s especially not worth counting on their return of power.
                    About your vision of “reforms” - well, is it everywhere, but exactly everywhere, just like that - half a year of age increase per year? There are definitely no other examples? So, the position has already been determined - and the actions that I and my relatives will take are already well defined - but don’t even hope to hear them, I don’t have a habit of uploading anything related to my family - There will be no rallies, it will be of no use to them, but our government will receive a minimum of baksheesh ...
                    But personally, no one even thinks to forbid you to dream that this is all, in a single impulse ... this will never happen, most likely, never, because the power, if it is replaced, is decorative, no more. And to think about the fact that everyone, at least in some ways who disagree with the authorities, are evil-minded, are liberals, no one is trying to ban you either, personally you can continue to dream about ..., but at least about that, but this your choice, I have it different from yours, albeit in details, but in what important details.
                    1. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 16: 58
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                      Listen to yourself .. you have more emotions than common sense. Someone gave you “Duma allowances” there) Well, who's stopping you from making good money too? Yes, even to become the same State Duma deputy? Well, it so happened that all over the world, politics is one of the means of making money. Or are you so naive in your belief "In a better king"?
                      I understand that it’s a shame when exactly you are raising the retirement age. In the end, it personally affected me to the same extent as you, but due to some circumstances, maybe even more!) Yes, this is an unpleasant fact, but if you look at things pragmatically, it was inevitable. My personal opinion: I don’t give a damn about who, where and how makes their money. Someone more, someone less. I myself am responsible for my personal successes or failures. Each of us has what we personally deserve.
                      Personally, if I were to decide on retirement age, I would try a differentiated approach in specific cases. For example, I would exempt some populations from this reform. For residents of the far north, for example, for people of hard physical labor, etc. Everyone under one comb is somehow wrong. But this, too, is only my personal, emotional opinion, not based on any laws of economics, demography, etc.
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                        321 (321) April 19 2020 19: 32
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                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        Listen to yourself .. you have more emotions than common sense. Someone gave you “Duma allowances” there) Well, who's stopping you from making good money too? Yes, even to become the same State Duma deputy? Well, it so happened that all over the world, politics is one of the means of making money ...

                        Aren't you just writing about emotions here? But about naivety - yours in this case, which you don’t write, has not been a secret for a long time, figuratively speaking, the price tag that allows you to become a State Duma deputy and the amounts there are measured in US rubles, but how many zeros are there ... bully
                        Exceptions - yes, they are possible and even happen, but they only confirm the general rule.

                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        ... I understand that it’s a shame when exactly you are raising the retirement age. In the end, it personally affected me to the same extent as you, but due to some circumstances, maybe even more!) Yes, this is an unpleasant fact, but if you look at things pragmatically, it was inevitable ...

                        And again, by your side, it has NOT affected me even once, I have been for many years (how many - I won’t write anyway) laughing I get a pension, but here my relatives - yes, it "got". am

                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        ... My personal opinion: I don’t give a damn about who, where and how makes their money. Someone more, someone less. I myself am responsible for my personal successes or failures. Each of us has what we personally deserve....

                        Determine that, how and where you earn, really, BUT you already got the salaries of the Sechins, Millers and the like, and even with them being cut off - these are mainly about them, we see the fruits of their “work” almost every day and pay for them, more and more - the price of gasoline is rising, despite oil prices, is this normal? In my opinion - no! So what about the "deserves" you in vain ...
                        And the last - there are quite a few countries where the transition is smoother - the Germans move two months each, and by 2031 from 65 to 67, the French have raised two years in 10 years, will we compare the pace?
                        I rather agree with a differentiated approach.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 21: 36
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                        Oh yes, bravo! Great example! Germans. They have not reached 67 yet, but they have already started talking about 70)) As they say: they smoothly lay, but they ride briskly. Also want so smoothly, but briskly? Or do you still want to stay on: 56 for women and 61 for men?))
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                        321 (321) April 19 2020 22: 04
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                        Once again - how many years have they moved? Here is the answer to this question, but the rest, which you were asked about, somehow remained behind the scenes? What is the characteristic device for the liberals, you have not written about them before? bully
                        And "what do you call now?" hi
                      4. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 22: 12
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                        Sorry, but I'm not a pensioner yet (I'm not 67 yet))) so I answered what I saw as important, well, what I just managed to) Well, I'm not a liberal - that’s obvious. But I will definitely answer when I can).
                      5. Dear sofa expert. April 19 2020 22: 34
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                        I do not quite understand your question: “how many years have they moved” - is it about pensions in Germany? And what difference does it take for how many years and how smoothly this will happen ?? At the end of 2011, the government simply "from today to tomorrow" announced that from January 2012 the pension will begin to increase with each subsequent year of birth for a month. Affected at once a huge group of people from 1947 year of birth and younger. People born in 1964 and younger already without exception - since 67 years. Moreover, no difference - M or J. For example, those born in 1960 retire at 66 years and 4 months. What is the advantage of a smooth transition? Do you understand that people of any age feel cheated to varying degrees?
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 07: 28
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                        Pension will begin to rise with each subsequent year of birth for a month.

                        - we are six times faster, and

                        ... What is the advantage of a smooth transition? Do you understand that people of any age feel cheated to varying degrees?

                        - that is, in Germany people are deceived, BUT in Russia, where there was an even faster increase, you think that this is normal, it is justified, because it was inevitable, and where is the logic?
                      7. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 09: 31
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                        So this is precisely the logic of all unpopular reforms. Nobody likes them, but they are needed, and therefore inevitable. What is incomprehensible here? In Russia, this problem is long overdue. This means that they could start raising the retirement age earlier. This is how the Germans named you. Well, we would start this reform not today, but in the same 2012 year (but smoothly). Today you would be sitting with the same result as the Germans, only 8 years “worse”. There, even then they started to “insult” everyone little by little (and not yet finished! See 70), and in Russia they pulled as much as they could, and for the last 90 years they lifted for the first time (56/61 !!!). What is wrong? I don’t understand your logic.
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 09: 43
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                        You think that you are experienced in this. negative Take an interest in the reform in France to whom and not to those, but I don’t even remember about the famous statements of the GDP ...
                        And what does 56 and 61 have to do with, about which you regularly mention here?
                      9. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 09: 45
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                        I am not a Frenchman, but I can ask if you yourself cannot.
                        56Zh, 61M. We are talking about this, like, talking, or what are you talking about?)
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 09: 49
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                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        I am not a Frenchman, but I can ask if you yourself cannot.

                        This is an example of who applies and who does not. It turns out that you can make it so that those who have already earned do not fall ...
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 09: 53
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                        ... April 16th. FINMARKET.RU

                        "Russia is not yet ready for a sharp increase in the retirement age, although as the average life expectancy increases, authorities may return to this issue," said Russian President Vladimir Putin.

                        “Are we ready to take and sharply raise the retirement age today? I think not,” Putin said during a “direct line” with Russian citizens.

                        At the same time, according to him, as life expectancy increases, "we will probably someday come to the solution of these issues, including those regarding the retirement age."

                        Vladimir Putin emphasized that it is necessary to consider this problem in an open dialogue with society.

                        "It is necessary that people understand what this is caused by, what inaction and timely failure to make a decision can lead to," the head of state said.

                        In his opinion, today's life expectancy does not yet allow raising the retirement age.

                        “Our average life expectancy is growing, but for men today it’s 65 and a half years. Well then, what if we raise the retirement age to 65, then you will excuse me for the simplicity of expression, it will mean that a person worked, in a wooden mac and drove off, "V. Putin said. “This is impossible,” the head of state is convinced.

                        An increase in retirement should not concern people of pre-retirement age.

                        Vladimir Putin drew attention to the fact that in the vast majority of countries where the retirement age is increased, life expectancy exceeds Russian.

                        “For example, our average life expectancy for women is 77 and a half, and there are 81 and more,” the president concluded.

                        He also stressed that the extension of the retirement period, if the state comes to this, should not concern people of pre-retirement age who have already earned their pension rights.

                        "If you make any changes by age (retirement), then they should not apply to those who have already practically earned their pension rights," Putin said.

                        He emphasized: "People of pre-retirement age should definitely not be concerned." "This should be a soft entry into this system, concern people who are mature, but still young enough," the head of state said .... "(c)

                        2015 year ...
                      12. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 10: 15
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                        I don’t understand what you wanted to say with these text links? That Putin does not suit you? But now it’s not about him. This reform would have to be carried out by any other ruler.
                        Well, the fact that in different years rulers say different things .. well, this is understandable. The situation is changing - accordingly, the opinion is changing.
                        What was relevant yesterday may lose this relevance today. And this is normal. So the pension reform has already been adjusted. About women, for example. At first they wanted to do the same for everyone (as in your beloved Germany and France).
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 10: 54
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                        What you do not understand, I already understood, but I have already expressed my position, to add something is what, but why?
                      14. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 11: 06
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                        Yes, you have no position. Stop already pushing bile out of yourself, for every reason, by God!
                        As A. Raikin once said:

                        .. it’s time for you to stop doing indiscriminate harassment of epoch-making significance ..

                        So what do we have? The fact is that:
                        - Pension reform was necessary.
                        - It was necessary to start it.
                        - Pension reform is nowhere and never popular among the people.
                        - Corrections to improve it are necessary, and they have already begun.

                        If you know the best, take power in your hands and show everyone the genius hidden in you!)
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 11: 43
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                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        Yes, you have no position. Stop already pushing bile out of yourself, for every reason, by God! ...

                        I express my opinion and position and I’m not going to ask you or anyone else’s permission whether you like it or not. hi

                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        ... So what do we have? The fact is that: ...

                        You can not read further - this is not a fact, like everything else you have for this ...

                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        ... If you know the best, take power into your hands and show everyone the genius hidden in you!)

                        Any other instructions from you? bully
                        He himself did not notice how he had turned into a weather vane in fact - “I am against, but I am for”, but giving out directions is a lot. bully negative
                      16. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 13: 53
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                        "Pointers"?) Well, well. So your true face surfaced.)) And I was still thinking when the MOV climbed out of you)))
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                        321 (321) April 20 2020 21: 37
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                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        "Pointers"?) Well, well. So your true face surfaced.)) And I was still thinking when the MOV climbed out of you)))

                        Well, at least you’re an expert, I hope? And not how you did with the pension reform? You are for, you are against. bully
                      18. Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 23: 08
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                        Do not distort, and do not carry nonsense already) With the pension reform, everything is correct.
                        I immediately told you that as a person whom the reform also affects, I perceive it to some extent as painful. Who wants to retire later?
                        But as a person with an objective vision of reality, I understand this reform, and I think raising the retirement age is fundamentally correct.
                        Keep your move with you. I'm sick of her. As well as from everything that is connected with this mova.
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                        321 (321) April 21 2020 05: 01
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                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        Do not distort, and do not carry nonsense already) With the pension reform, everything is correct.
                        I immediately told you that as a person whom the reform also affects, I perceive it to some extent as painful. Who wants to retire later?
                        But as a person with an objective vision of reality - I understand this reform, and I think raising the retirement age is fundamentally correct ....

                        If you want to stay WITHOUT a pension, this is your right and your choice, but it is thanks to people like you that they will raise this age more than once, so pay to the FIU and further without return. laughing

                        Quote: Dear couch expert.
                        ... keep your move with you. I'm sick of her. As well as from everything that is connected with this mova.

                        Already wrote, mov is yours, if you do not understand, re-read it again, and again, and so on until you understand the meaning of what you wrote ... negative
                        PS Smiled about your "... an objective vision of reality ..." (c) - dream on bully hi
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    321 (321) April 20 2020 09: 45
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    I have a different opinion on whether pension reform is needed.
    So do you understand?
  • Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 09: 52
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    I also have another, I already wrote this to you. But our “crystal opinion” crashed against the “cliffs of objective reality”.
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    321 (321) April 20 2020 11: 26
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    The difference between us is that I’m doing something, but I’ll venture to suggest that no ...
    and also - rocks - yes, but this is NOT objective reality - this is my opinion.
  • Dear sofa expert. April 20 2020 23: 11
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    What are you doing? Bullshit here your ukro-liberal on the forum distribute? So it will not help you. People like you are calculated in two ways.
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    321 (321) April 21 2020 04: 52
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    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    What are you doing? Bullshit here your ukro-liberal on the forum distribute? So it will not help you. People like you are calculated in two ways.

    First, pay attention to your garbage - then for, then against, well, the weather vane is resting.
    And determine your calculations for yourself - to where you think it is necessary, or to tell more precisely?
    Help yourself first, before the fig you got divorced, “helpers” and label your own and stick it wherever you want, at least about the liberals, at least about the MOV with the Ukrainians. bully
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    Russians are not you! Actually! Many Russians here and think differently!

    Russians never attract attention to themselves with prefixes such as Rus, etc., as those who are usually related to Russians like a dog’s fifth leg usually do.
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      Rus April 6 2020 10: 40
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      Well, yes, but 69 pose - this is in Russian! Vile even from this! Why is this ...
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      A.Lex (Secret information) April 9 2020 14: 32
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      69P, I already wrote to him about this. He already let slip - from the "city on the hill" he, an emigrant.
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    Smirnoff (Victor) April 5 2020 17: 31
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    Vladimir Putin has NO LOSS! ONE VICTORY !!!
    We thank Vladimir Putin for the valiant work to the glory of Russia and our multinational people.

    If the situation with coronavirus infection COVID-19 goes according to the same scenario as the SARS epidemic, then by April-May the problem will not be so acute. This was told by Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Chuchalin, Head of the Department of Hospital Therapy, Russian National Research Medical University. N.I. Pirogov. In his opinion, the healthcare system of the Russian Federation did its best to protect the country from coronavirus. The doctor also said that, contrary to popular belief, COVID-19 infection may be accompanied by a runny nose ...
    ... Of course, 2020 will go down in the history of medicine as a new disease.
    We must admit that we understood a new disease.
    Two new pneumonia came (from the USA).
    This is pneumonia caused by electronic cigarettes, vapes, and now in the United States they have died of this ... - ... several thousand teenagers !!! Yes, this is a well-known fact, and how to treat it is not clear.
    You put on mechanical ventilation (mechanical ventilation), they die.
    The epidemic of the virus mowed the Americans in the United States in the fall before China, and the US authorities did nothing to combat the new virus !!!

    Russian Ambassador to the US Antonov spoke about the lies of the American media about the fight against COVID-19 in Russia.
    “It is disturbing the appearance of false information in the American media about the allegedly inefficient work of the Russian government to combat a new type of pneumonia.
    Absurd references are made to certain "pseudo-specialists" who rely in their judgments only on statements made by Russian officials taken out of context.
    It’s obvious that there are gross attempts to switch public attention from the USA from the difficult situation with coronavirus in the country to the situation in other states, ”the Russian ambassador said in a statement.

    1. Europe wonders why there are so few people infected with the virus in Russia. The Austrian newspaper Der Standart, in an article on the publication’s website, notes that Russia, which the West is used to underestimating, copes with the epidemic much better than many governments of developed European countries.
    Der Standart admits that even with all the shortcomings of the built-in passenger flow filtration system (the publication does not specify which ones - ed.), In general, the actions of the Russian authorities were more consistent and logical than the measures taken by their colleagues in European countries .
    Der Standart concludes that the REASONS for SUCCESS of the Russian state in the fight against coronavirus are due to the effectiveness of its sanitary-epidemiological service, whose work was debugged during the Soviet era, as well as a number of measures taken by the government almost immediately after the appearance of coronavirus in Chinese Wuhan.

    2. And the Director of the Institute for Health Economics at the Higher School of Economics Larisa Popovich confirmed that the success of the Russian government in the fight against coronavirus was made possible thanks to the rich experience of Russian doctors and the clear actions of federal and regional authorities.
  • When someone says "power", it means a "state" that provides this power. In Russia, there has long been no state, there is organized crime that has privatized the state and made it a tool for generating income. In this context, the phrase “deprive power”, I think, should be interpreted as “deprive the crown of a thief in the zone”, which may very well happen in the near future, since the godfather is clearly off topic, has rolled off the coils and with his show-offs is depriving the guys of their income.
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    Aleksandr2020 (Alexander Vk) April 5 2020 18: 48
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    One blurted out about Valdai, the other picked up this schizophrenic nonsense of Sisyan and embellished it.
    This is how the Liberda composes the news.

    It is possible to eliminate, and do not be shy, the USA of the Iranian general and all his entourage were extinguished, that's how it is.
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      Quote: Aleksandr2020
      another picked up this schizophrenic nonsense of Sisyan and embellished

      Do not reflect, distribute!
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      Smirnoff (Victor) April 6 2020 14: 10
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      The best answer to all of our sworn enemies is the SUPPORT of Vladimir Putin.
      We are together with our president and government.

      The whole country joined the battle with the overseas coronavirus.
      Everyone wants to contribute to the victory over the epidemic.
      The action #WeTogether already united four thousand companies and 50 thousand volunteers from all over the country.
      Volunteers buy food for older people so that they do not put their lives at risk and stay at home.
      Businessmen provide hospitals with medical equipment.
      In just one day, more than a thousand applications were received from medical students who were ready to fight for the lives of patients with coronavirus as volunteers.

      In Russia, the movement is gaining momentum - “TOGETHER TOGETHER”, designed to unite all Russians in the fight against the overseas coronavirus!
      Workers in industrial enterprises and medical institutions came forward as a united front to repel the coronavirus enemy.

      The Russians participate in the self-isolation movement, saving themselves and others from infection, and professionals around the clock, at the forefront, at the risk of their lives, fight with coronavirus in their workplaces - in ministries, in law enforcement agencies, in hospitals, hospitals and clinics.
      They fulfill their sacred duty.
      Unaware of all the habits of the overseas, in the board of a democratic, coronavirus enemy, medical workers, in protective white gowns are PLANNING inflicting, SARS-CoV-2, the American coronavirus infection, blow after blow.

      Russian President Vladimir Putin began his appeal to the nation with the words of gratitude to the doctors.

      Doctors, nurses, and the entire staff of medical institutions continue to work under stress.
      They are now very difficult.
      And they are the ones in hospitals, in their areas, who are defending themselves from the upcoming epidemic.
      They treat and save people.
      I am sure that all citizens of the country will join the words of heartfelt gratitude to our medical staff

      - noted the head of state.

      Throughout the country, the “WE TOGETHER” movement has unfolded and is expanding.
      The real competition of the times of "developed" socialism - JOIN!
  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergey G) April 5 2020 19: 27
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    So he has already transferred part of his authority to the Cabinet and governors. The question is - why? Is it only to relieve oneself of responsibility?
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    Dzafdet (Sergei) April 5 2020 21: 04
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    A pandemic has begun in the States, so that Shvets can also get sick and be blown away ...
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    Umsan Umsanov (Umsan Umsanov) April 6 2020 01: 58
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    Wanted, viren. Although I criticize Putin, I’ll go to fight for my president.
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    Warrior April 6 2020 09: 25
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    Did this Shwetz fool study with Putin? They probably had different teachers ...
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    Serge Tixiy (Serge Tixiy) April 6 2020 10: 56
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    He is a fellow student of Putin and a former employee of an organization that overslept the USSR .... The organization must ensure state security from internal enemies, but those who ensure FIG know that .. But talkative former employees. The main thing is that everything is in the style of Mishka Kvakin - uh, we would have shown uh, we are formidable, uh, we all know ....
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    Athos. (Tahiti Tahiti) April 6 2020 14: 58
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    This should have been done 10 years ago and soldered an attempt to state. coup.
  • Genadiy Chalunov (Genady Chalunov) April 6 2020 22: 21
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    Another traitor to the Motherland, having eaten up the State Department cabbage, began to pluck the stink ...
    but this experimental rabbit will soon be strangled, hanged, or drowned in the bathroom, by its own keepers, like a sacred sacrifice, to accuse Russia of murdering this Judas. Get ready to reap the fruits of betrayal.
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    321 (321) April 20 2020 09: 57
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    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    So this is precisely the logic of all unpopular reforms. Nobody likes them, but they are needed, and therefore inevitable. What is incomprehensible here? ...

    ... And what about France? There, the reform will fully apply only to citizens who were born in 2004 (!), Who will turn 18 in 2022. The logic of Paris ministers is simple: in the 5th Republic, some people chose their profession based on the benefits provided, including pension ones. It is, for example, railway workers, teachers, and civil servants. So they must "finish the game according to the old rules." That is, those who in 2022 will have 15 years or less before retirement will not be touched at all.
    Thus, the reform will affect those born before 1975, but very gently, since the first Macron retirees will receive a pension that is 70% formed according to the old rules. Moreover, this will happen in 2037 (!) Year. Consequently, they will reach the well-deserved age of 62 years with an average life expectancy of 82 years ....

    Briefly about the French ...