“For remelting”: Czechs spoke about the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev

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Czech news iDNES.cz portal published an article regarding the dismantling of a monument to the Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in Prague on Friday. The work was carried out by order of local authorities.

The text says that the demolition was planned in September, after which a new memorial dedicated to the liberators of the city should appear at the same place.



The statue of Konev will become part of the planned municipal museum of the XX century. However, the city council has not yet decided where this museum will be located

- the article says.

The President of the Czech Republic Milos Zeman, as well as the Russian authorities, spoke out against dismantling.


At the same time, Czech commentators on the article on iDNES.cz expressed their attitude to the problem under the news.

Their opinions on dismantling are given selectively.

Agree, but they could leave some monument to the poor Russians who fell for the liberation of Europe there ...

In Poland, in recent years, more than 2000 memorials dedicated to the Soviet Army have been dismantled. The Poles did not forget the Soviet invasion in 1939, the Katyn massacre and the observation of the Vistula massacre over the commanders of the AK [Craiova Army], who bravely fought with the Nazis.

I don’t understand why this question is so important for the Reds. The statue of the controversial marshal will be replaced by a memorial to the soldiers of the Red Army as a whole, who deserve gratitude for the liberation of Prague. Those countless unknown soldiers who were driven into a meat grinder. I really appreciate their sacrifices and don’t know why the Red Marshal should represent them.

Let it be melted down and made a bell for the victims of communism. From the uprising in Hungary to our own, in 1968. And he will call for a long time. Because the red parasite has killed millions of people.

Given that the statue is the property of Prague-6, Zeman and the Russians may not agree, but this is the only thing they can do about it. Fortunately.

On the morning of May 11, the NKVD troops in Prague began to arrest and take away to the Gulag Czechs, Ukrainians, Russians and others, of those “who should be”. There were also fugitives from Bolshevism who arrived in the country in the twenties and became citizens of Czechoslovakia. [...] The vast majority of people have never returned. Some were killed right in Prague, some died in Soviet prisons, in the GULAGs, and there is no information at all about a significant part of the abducted.

Finally, the monstrous symbol of occupation and submission to the Soviet Union will disappear.

The statue of Konev, probably, was not only for me a symbol of the communist dictatorship and Russian occupation.
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    1. +13
      April 4 2020 10: 18
      I, as a citizen of Russia, demand from the Russian authorities an extremely harsh reaction to this Russophobic trick of the Czech authorities.
      The Czech Republic should be punished, first of all, economically - by a complete ban on Russian tourism to the Czech Republic.
      1. +7
        April 4 2020 10: 43
        I totally agree with you. Only slightly correct not Russophobian, but a vile trick. It is a pity, our government (if it can be called such at all) will not notice anything and will not do anything, they are indignant for the order and that’s all.
      2. -8
        April 4 2020 11: 27
        I demand from the authorities of the Russian Federation

        From my communication with the Czechs, you will never be forgiven for trampling the Prague Spring.
        1. +5
          April 4 2020 11: 33
          Weakly trampled.
          1. -10
            April 4 2020 12: 30
            Weakly trampled

            All the same, they will not forgive. They are trembling with hatred. By the way, apologize - didn’t such a thought occur to you? To say that this way and that, you do not agree with the actions of the bloody communist regime and will no longer be.
            1. +6
              April 4 2020 12: 52
              Read my comment below. I don't care what they think and feel. During their "Prague Spring" they spat in the face of our soldiers, they knew that nothing would happen, the guys had an order not to touch anyone. But the Germans were afraid to faint. And now they do not yap against them.
              Because the Germans remember how the Czechs evicted Sudeten Germans literally without underwear, not to mention personal things. Our military administration at the border had to give them at least soldier's underwear. So, the Germans also remember the bestiality of the Czechs (they were very bold, behind the back of the USSR), and this was linen (after what we had done). And in 1968 the Czechs helped us a lot to bring to life. They shot without hesitation. They had no order. This is what should be taken as a guide to action in the future.
              1. -7
                April 4 2020 13: 30
                they spat on our fighters in the face

                Thank you for not shooting.
                Well, then you were carried along the steppes and ravines. I wonder why almost none of the "patriots" are able to conduct a meaningful conversation, all the time you try to get off the topic?
                1. +6
                  April 4 2020 13: 58
                  I said: read my comment below.
                  Then they would understand that this is my personal attitude towards them. In the comments, I just explain where this relationship came from.
                  And you and the Czechs jump off the topic. Konev was instructed to save the useless Prague uprising (at the cost of the blood of Soviet soldiers). He did it.
                  He had nothing to do with Prague Spring. The operation was developed by Marshal Yakubovsky, directly led by Army General Pavlovsky. Who really came off is the Germans. But against the Germans, the Czechs are weak to pull.
                  Therefore, now we have registered (from the Washington regional committee) Russophobia.
                  And for their forgiveness I do not care.
                  1. -10
                    April 4 2020 14: 40
                    And for their forgiveness I do not care

                    Could be limited to this, and everything else is nothing more than an excuse.
                2. +6
                  April 4 2020 14: 05
                  Quote: mor7d
                  ... Thank you for not shooting ...

                  Well, how brave are you - now, in other countries and so on, something tells you that you haven’t always been like this. bully

                  Quote: mor7d
                  ... I wonder why almost none of the "patriots" are able to conduct a meaningful conversation, all the time you try to get off the topic?

                  Well, to you, alarmists and secessionists, you can - well, what do you think, to ask questions about something completely different, and while everything is on the topic, who started voting here, that they won’t forgive us, that it’s easy to beat them - let’s shake and beat they’ll stick it to themselves, but it’s advisable to turn it carefully first - where, did you already guess, or tell you more precisely? bully
                  And what's the point with you and people like you to have a conversation ?? - you bring the facts to you, it starts right away - about sources, confirmations, etc., I’ll drop everything here, I’ll start here (and not only here) to upload the numbers of archive files, sheets, etc. from my archive - from places about which most of you even they didn’t hear, let alone visit - this is information, and it is quite expensive - in the literal sense. hi
                  BUT when you ask you the same question - an intelligible answer follows extremely rarely, more often it is either an excuse or childish babble - so you, the all-footed people, taught the rest how to better "communicate" with you.
                  1. -8
                    April 4 2020 14: 42
                    A lot of words.

                    shaking and banging, vote,

                    SCHAZZ I'll drop everything

                    excuse, or baby talk

                    ALL-MOLDERS

                    - A standard set of Internet propagandist.
                    1. +3
                      April 4 2020 14: 54
                      Quote: mor7d
                      standard internet propaganda kit

                      mor7dtell us about this technology. It feels like you're special.
                      1. -6
                        April 4 2020 14: 55
                        isofat , You are trying to get away from the topic, chat it, this is a standard set of Internet propagandist.
                        1. +2
                          April 4 2020 14: 59
                          Quote: mor7d
                          isofat, you are trying to get away from the topic, chat it, this is a standard set of Internet propagandist

                          mor7dApparently, this is your professional secret. Do not want to, do not tell.
                        2. +2
                          April 4 2020 15: 13
                          Quote: mor7d
                          isofatYou are trying to get away from the topic, chat it, this is a standard set of Internet propagandist

                          You know better what is included in the recruitment of a propagandist, since it is you who are them ...
                          PS Have you already studied about six circles over Tel Aviv? bully
                        3. -6
                          April 4 2020 20: 06
                          PS Have you already studied about six circles over Tel Aviv?

                          This is when they shot you down? Do you need to study? You hang out a little more here, pout with arrogance and there will be not six, but twenty-six circles. laughing
                        4. +2
                          April 4 2020 20: 36
                          Quote: mor7d
                          PS Have you already studied about six circles over Tel Aviv?

                          This is when they shot you down? Do you need to study? You hang out a little more here, pout with arrogance and there will be not six, but twenty-six circles. laughing

                          Personally, you are not able to bring down even a fly, but the lack of abilities in your elementary search is already alarming - not for me, those from whom you get your bonuses for your opuses ... hi
                        5. -3
                          April 5 2020 10: 14
                          Personally, you are not able to bring down even a fly

                          There is a museum near Be'er Sheva, and there are entire planes and debris from the downed Soviet ones. You go astray quite easily; Turks and Syrians have recently confirmed this.
                        6. +3
                          April 5 2020 10: 34
                          Quote: mor7d
                          Personally, you are not able to bring down even a fly

                          There is a museum near Be'er Sheva, and there are entire planes and debris from the downed Soviet ones. You go astray quite easily; Turks and Syrians have recently confirmed this.

                          I have to repeat personally for you - it was about you personally, and the "exploits" of your state - I have already given you an example - six circles over your capital, read books, documents, there are so many new things for you. hi
                        7. -4
                          April 5 2020 10: 39
                          Forced to repeat

                          There is no need to repeat the old Soviet fairy tales filled with flies. The Soviet Air Force was defeated by the Israeli army, this is a fact, I have a relative, then as a boy, as a guy familiar with the Russian language, he was listening to all the swear words of the Soviet "aces". So keep these tales for yourself.
                        8. +3
                          April 5 2020 10: 48
                          Quote: mor7d
                          Forced to repeat

                          No need to repeat the old Soviet fly-tales ....

                          You are trying to tell your fairy tales here, but others are not allowed? No, this will not work - your fairy tales, while you bring them here, then there will be other facts - once again, study about the "six circles" - and the end of all this is possible only on a reciprocal basis - when you stop talking too about the invulnerability and invincibility of their aircraft, and nothing else ...
                          PS The stories of your relative are not interesting to me, he is your relative, and this has already been said a lot ...
                    2. +3
                      April 4 2020 15: 10
                      excuse, or baby talk

                      ALL-MOLDERS

                      standard internet propaganda kit

                      Who would doubt, BUT you cannot argue, in essence you have nothing, and nothing ...
                      PS You, as a propagandist, know better how propagandists should be there ... bully hi
                      PPS And whoever wrote about the propagandists here, first remove the log from your eye, and only after that you have the right to speak about the straw in the eyes of others. bully
                      1. -5
                        April 4 2020 20: 07
                        there is a right to speak about a straw in the eyes of others

                        Well, you are talking directly about yourself.
                        1. +2
                          April 4 2020 20: 34
                          Quote: mor7d
                          there is a right to speak about a straw in the eyes of others

                          Well, you are talking directly about yourself.

                          Write about yourself, or on your own behalf, but they don’t pay you for that, apparently, here you are tearing yourself here - well, if in another way you can’t earn a living for yourself - however, these are your problems ...
                        2. -4
                          April 5 2020 10: 15
                          well, if it’s different

                          So, you chatted the topic again. We remind you that the theme of “Remelting”: the Czechs spoke about the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev.
                        3. +4
                          April 5 2020 10: 40
                          Are you "reminded"? Almost like a reigning person? bully Your "reminders" do not interest me at all - you started here repeated repetitions about propagandists, so we discussed them, and on the topic I have already spoken out - your efforts to prove that we are all have repent and apologize to someone - nothing more than your personal, subjective opinion, and it does not interest me too much - I already wrote to you, I have to repeat myself, you are not one of those whose opinion is important to me ...
                        4. -4
                          April 5 2020 10: 41
                          Are you "reminded"? Almost like a reigning person

                          I can’t repeat myself, let's discuss the topic, enough about me.
              2. +2
                April 4 2020 14: 10
                Your business, of course, only in my opinion, you are trying in vain to explain this under the number - you still won’t understand, in my opinion, he has an attitude towards the Russian Federation and the USSR that is unambiguous - everything is bad ...
            2. +6
              April 4 2020 13: 48
              Quote: mor7d
              Weakly trampled

              All the same, they will not forgive. They are trembling with hatred. By the way, apologize - didn’t such a thought occur to you? To say that this way and that, you do not agree with the actions of the bloody communist regime and will no longer be.

              What horror, for sure they will not forgive? For decades now we have been directly conspiring. laughing bully am
              And you would go with your assessment of the communist regime either to yourselves, to your sites, or to a censor - there you will be greeted as a native ... hi
              And about apologizing, only after your state does this, albeit for your other pranks, but not earlier. hi
              PS how are you not far from your kindergarten - "... you won't be anymore" (c) laughing bully
              1. -6
                April 4 2020 20: 09
                What a horror, they’ll definitely not forgive

                Of course not. You just do not be surprised why such an attitude towards you. It’s like a bad attitude towards the Nazis, but a good attitude towards the Germans. The Germans made denazification, and you still have to do decommunization.
                1. +4
                  April 4 2020 20: 42
                  Quote: mor7d
                  What a horror, they’ll definitely not forgive

                  Of course not. You just do not be surprised why such an attitude towards you. It’s like a bad attitude towards the Nazis, but a good attitude towards the Germans. The Germans made denazification, and you still have to do decommunization.

                  What we have to be discussed with you will be the last thing, but the attitude of others is different, and it’s not for you to judge what they think massively - “like attracts like” (c), so you just come across terry Russophobes. ..
            3. +3
              April 4 2020 14: 42
              Listen, you can still put on rags, sprinkle ashes on your head, and crawl to them on your knees! So this is your Great Ukrainian way!
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                1. +3
                  April 5 2020 10: 51
                  Quote: mor7d
                  The Germans made denazification, and you still have to do decommunization.

                  What we have to do, with representatives of other states, like you, we will hardly discuss - sort things out in your own countries. bully
                  1. -4
                    April 5 2020 10: 53
                    What we have to do with representatives of other states, like you ...

                    Take care of yourself, you still have a lot to do.
                    1. +4
                      April 5 2020 11: 03
                      Quote: mor7d
                      What we have to do with representatives of other states like you

                      Take care of yourself, you still have a lot to do.

                      Of course, we will, but without your advice (wishes, instructions). There are too many of you, such "advisers", so we will reassure you - so we will do it and only in this sequence, otherwise, well, nothing. hi
            4. +1
              April 4 2020 18: 25
              Let the communists apologize for the Prague spring, the Russian people should not make excuses for this.
              1. -6
                April 4 2020 20: 10
                the Russian people should not make excuses for this.

                Of course it should. You trampled the Prague spring.
                1. +3
                  April 4 2020 21: 33
                  Quote: mor7d
                  the Russian people should not make excuses for this.

                  Of course it should. You trampled the Prague spring.

                  You cannot even be forbidden to dream, so you dream about it, and to whom and what we should - it definitely should NOT bother you - your opinion does not matter. hi
            5. RFR
              +4
              April 5 2020 00: 21
              Remove the pan from the head ....
        2. +1
          April 4 2020 14: 40
          Since you are a EUROPEAN, then yes! Well, the CIA didn’t succeed in a coup then!
        3. +1
          21 May 2020 20: 03
          And you, probably, hesitated to remind the Czechs, because of what it all started and how many innocent souls they ruined, how much human blood shed to start their "Prague Spring"?
          They trampled a little, as they wrote above, it was necessary to roll this animal scum into the ground.
      3. +1
        April 5 2020 18: 55
        At least punish so ...
      4. 0
        20 May 2020 18: 14
        The Russian authorities spit deep from the bell tower to your requirements. As with everything else in Russia, which does not apply to their personal gesheft.
    2. Rus
      -2
      April 4 2020 10: 18
      But all of Russia is in the monuments of the citizens of the USSR republics who died in our country.
    3. 0
      April 4 2020 10: 21
      It seemed to him, on the window he saw an elephant,
      He looked, That bonnet was that the wife embroidered,
      And he thought: life is complicated ...


      The horse said upon seeing the camel,
      What a ridiculous horse, ok
      The camel said, are you a horse?
      You are just an underdeveloped camel.


      Historically, the Czechs never linked their history, culture and mentality in general with the Slavs, kept apart, not only from the eastern and southern Slavs, but also from the western. Hence the discrepancy of historical events.
      1. 0
        April 4 2020 18: 31
        The Czechs, it seems, had no history at all until the 19th century, because all the monuments were signed in Latin before independence.
        1. -5
          April 4 2020 20: 11
          The Czechs didn't seem to have a story at all

          There was a university in Prague when you were still living in dugouts.
          1. +3
            April 5 2020 10: 57
            Quote: mor7d
            ... There was a university in Prague when you were still living in dugouts.

            No one doubted that you had at least a vague idea of ​​our life, but you probably have no time to study history - you write comments, so study dugouts first, then you can write posts, another sequence of actions leads to errors , as you have, about dugouts ...
    4. +1
      April 4 2020 10: 36
      I repeat that at the genetic level, Europe HATES RUSSIA and Russians. And the more good we do to them, the more they HATE us !!

      ...... Pests in the field - to destroy all
      killing, how to reins need to be controlled ......


      The time will come, and this Europe will answer for its hatred! But it will be without Putin!
      1. 123
        +3
        April 4 2020 11: 28
        Are you going to destroy Europe? belay
        In one, you are absolutely right if this ever happens.

        But it will be without Putin!
        1. +1
          April 4 2020 16: 45
          He wants Vladimir Putin to win the election.
          1. 123
            0
            April 4 2020 16: 55
            He wants Vladimir Putin to win the election.

            Good luck with this hopeless affair. laughing
      2. -4
        April 4 2020 13: 15
        Quote: steel maker
        I repeat that at the genetic level, Europe HATES RUSSIA and Russians. And the more good we do to them, the more they HATE us !!

        ...... Pests in the field - to destroy all
        killing, how to reins need to be controlled ......


        The time will come, and this Europe will answer for its hatred! But it will be without Putin!

        When hearts in love knock on blouses
        And I really want to crucify them on the cross,
        No more joy, no better music
        Like the crunch of broken lives and bones.

        That's why, when your eyes languish,
        And passion begins to boil in the chest,
        I want to write on your verdict
        One fearless: “To the wall! Shoot!"
      3. +2
        April 4 2020 18: 32
        Conclusion: good must first be done to your people.
    5. +4
      April 4 2020 11: 40
      Another nation has become less among the decent ...
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 12: 21
        Were they decent? And where can I find a list of decent countries in Europe?
    6. +7
      April 4 2020 12: 02
      Quote: Potapov
      Another nation has become less among the decent ...

      This decent people robbed Russia by exporting gold (the Czech uprising in Siberia and the seizure of Russia's gold reserves), this decent people armed Hitler to the teeth.

      https://history.wikireading.ru/188977

      They did not even resist the invasion (Munich conspiracy).

      https://rg.ru/2019/03/15/80-let-nazad-vojska-fashistskoj-germanii-vtorglis-na-territoriiu-chehii.html

      What resistance?

      https://life.ru/p/1047853

      https://runivers.ru/doc/d2.php?SECTION_ID=9157&PORTAL_ID=7531.

      For Europe, Russia has always been a bone in the throat.

      https://www.kaliningrad.kp.ru/daily/26545/3561696/.

      And today, the best recommendations for them are gay parades. And preferably every Saturday.
    7. +6
      April 4 2020 12: 18
      I generally hate them. There is also a personal implication.
      In the years 1918-19. they stole 100 tons of gold from the gold reserves of the Russian Empire. They founded a bank on this gold that ensured the modernization of the industry. And by the end of the 1930s, Czechoslovakia accounted for 40% of world arms sales. For comparison, the share of Russia, in recent years, has fluctuated around 10%.
      But Czechoslovakia did not fight with Germany; it surrendered voluntarily. And, from the beginning of 1939, conscientiously gave Hitler a very high-quality weapon. You can laugh as much as you want at Czech pre-war tanks, but Manstein's corps (and only) made it almost to Moscow. The range of supplies was very wide. The Germans trusted them to make the most successful jet fighter WWII Me 262. So they worked for Hitler until April 1945. And then they took care of finishing WWII among the winners. And on May 5, 1945, an uprising began in Prague. And immediately they squealed: "Save us." Why was it necessary? The war is practically over.
      On May 5, my dad was in Berlin, the war was over for him, the fighting was no longer there. But he fought in the 1st Ukrainian Front (originally from under Tambov, if that), an anti-aircraft gunner, the commander of a 37 mm gun in the 6th Guards Mechanized Corps.
      And so, on May 5, an order came and the corps rushed to Prague, amid the ongoing war. And on May 8 I was on the northwestern outskirts of Prague. As a result, the Pope had a medal and "For the capture of Berlin" and "For the liberation of Prague." For them, the war continued and not everyone survived. I could not have been born.
      And now they have dropped the monument to my father’s commander. Before this, stealing Chinese aid for Italy, where the horror of what is happening in health care. Inhumans.
    8. +5
      April 4 2020 12: 51
      I don’t know if the Czech ambassador was summoned to our Foreign Ministry, perhaps there’s just no time, but it’s impossible to ignore this fascist trick of the Czech authorities and part of the population of this country! Moreover, on the eve of the 75th anniversary of the Victory over fascism. In my opinion, this is the spitting of the Czechs at all the citizens of Russia, and, possibly, another act of vandalism before the arrival of another crazy "corporal" in Europe. This demarche of the Czechs cannot be left unanswered!
    9. -1
      April 4 2020 12: 59
      Color of dust

      Judge?
      Well then ... like children,
      You are not Sudeten
      You will.


      Felix Chuykov

      April 04 2020 years
    10. +3
      April 4 2020 13: 12
      They attacked and not one even thought that the bloody Stalin had brought their beloved master to suicide. And they grieve for him to this day. As, however, the whole of Europe.
    11. +4
      April 4 2020 14: 14
      I, as the grandson of the winner of the Nazi invaders, closely monitor what I buy, and now I will not get anything made in the Czech Republic, as well as from many other countries.
    12. +1
      April 4 2020 15: 42
      Terminate all economic ties with Poland and the Czech Republic.
    13. +3
      April 4 2020 16: 06
      Stop worrying ...
      Every cultural person is familiar with the statement of Dostoevsky F.M. about European, including Slavic trash.
      After all, the epileptic was ... And his words - even now framed! True, his epilepsy was accompanied by seizures, which is much better for preserving the cognitive abilities of a person than a form without seizures or with their substitutes in the form of absences, fugues and trance.
      In any madhouse, the epileptic is always responsible for the ward! When making the bed and smoothing wrinkles on the linen, they can do this procedure for hours! - such is the craving for scrupulousness, maybe partly these features were also inherent in Dostoevsky - that’s why the deepest thoughtfulness of judgments.
      But I do not love him ...
    14. +3
      April 4 2020 16: 16
      That life itself will punish such severely.
      Here we agree, say, Serge.
      Here he wakes up and, of course, says.
      Let life condemn, yes, Sergey? Let life punish.


      V.S. Vysotsky

      And we must answer them in Russian! Nasvensky!

    15. +8
      April 4 2020 16: 27
      Russia needs to draw conclusions and no longer save the alien culture, alien values ​​and alien peoples at the cost of the lives of Russian soldiers !!!
      1. +2
        April 4 2020 16: 52
        Russia needs to draw conclusions and no longer save the alien culture, alien values ​​and alien peoples at the cost of the lives of Russian soldiers !!!

        Why so much pathos. Everything happens quite systematically. The leaders of the Russian state over the past 30 years have only been happy about this. Maybe, of course, they wanted the best, but as a result it turned out as always.
        If someone didn’t need their own values ​​in any way, why should foreign nations (brothers) make this happy? Now, of course, they have come to their senses, the fried rooster, it seems, pecked very zealously, but the process has already started long ago and stopping it will not be so simple.
      2. -1
        April 4 2020 18: 40
        This has begun since the post-Petrine era.
        1. 0
          April 6 2020 00: 00
          More likely earlier, but this is not about the times of Peter.
    16. +7
      April 4 2020 17: 04
      It’s necessary to plow all the monuments of the White-Czechs with the bulldozers on the camera, otherwise there’s some kind of savagery, the descendants of these executioners put monuments on the land of the Siberian executioners.
    17. +2
      April 4 2020 18: 13
      What kind of country is this where nothing depends on the president? .. But by the way, now many of them have divorced ...

      PS Whose are you six, Prague-6?)
    18. 69
      +3
      April 4 2020 20: 26
      Quote: mor7d
      The Germans have made denazification, and you still have to do decommunization

      Someone will have to debanderize, many of you creep and crap around Russia.
    19. +2
      April 5 2020 08: 17
      It’s a pity that our ruling universal people will die again ...