Rosneft maneuver in Venezuela: Kremlin sends Trump a clear signal


At first glance, the informational message about the “departure” of one of the leading Russian companies working in the extraction and sale of energy from Venezuela should have created an explosion of sincere joy and even glee in the United States. Well, they survived, “squeezed out” these Russians, achieved their goal by showing the world the miraculous and irresistible power of American sanctions!


However, there is no enthusiasm in the local politics, or, especially, in the expert community, something is not observed. Quite the contrary: irritation and anger reign there: "These Russian sly people again cheated us and spat in our faces!"

Background question


To begin with, we briefly recall what happened to the Venezuelan assets of our Rosneft. First of all, being determined to go all the way in their attempts to overthrow the legitimate president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, in Washington they were finally convinced that it would be impossible to do this while the legitimate authority in the country has the support of Moscow. At a minimum, without direct military intervention, which the American warriors could not dare even before the worldwide coronavirus pandemic, being in a much better “form”. On the other hand, in the United States they clearly understood what enormous material losses Russia would suffer if Guaido and his gang got to power in Caracas, who repeatedly stated that they did not intend to repay the debts of the “criminal regime” and recognize the prisoners as its representatives deals. The sad experience of Ukraine, where a similar situation has resulted in multibillion-dollar damage for our country, is still before the Kremlin, but in Venezuela everything is much more serious. Until the last days, Rosneft corporations owned very significant shares in leading companies in the oil and oil refining sectors - such as Petromiranda and Petrovictoria, Petromonagas, Petroperija, Boqueron, as well as some others. A considerable amount of money has been invested in them, and the Americans quite rightly believed that, being in their right mind, our company wouldn’t give up all this just like that, “you live great”. That is why they went the other way, it seemed to them, in a completely brilliant way - they made every effort to turn Venezuelan assets into Rosneft's toxic, not profitable, but losses.

This was done, as usual, by imposing sanctions against subsidiaries of our oil producing corporation - Rosneft Trading and TNK Trading. Rosneft itself has been under sectoral sanctions by Washington for the sixth year already, and nothing lives. In this case, announcing the introduction of restrictions against the above structures, representatives of the US Department of State very clearly emphasized: the reason is "direct work in the Venezuelan oil sector", namely, "selling bypassing American sanctions" of the local oil. At the same time, specific contracts, volumes and dates were called, which, however, was already completely unimportant. Elliot Abrams, US Special Representative for Venezuela voicing the position of the State Department, made it clear that in order to achieve the lifting of sanctions, our oil traders will not only have to “change their behavior”, but also take certain “concrete and significant” steps to “maintain a democratic Venezuelan order. " Obviously, Juan Guaido will be thrown some money - not otherwise ... In Moscow, they were initially invigorated regarding the incident, saying that the restrictions would affect less than 1% of the company's profits and that Washington has chosen the most “sparing” sanctions regime in general. However, an extremely unpleasant surprise lay in wait for our oil industry workers where they were unlikely to expect this: the Chinese comrades suddenly began to refuse deals with Rosneft, who fully knew all the "charms" of American pressure. One of the leading petrochemical companies in the Celestial Empire, Sinochem Corp, expressed its reluctance to continue cooperation not only with Rosneft’s “black list” daughters, but also with any enterprises associated with it. And this was already a serious blow. But “the next in line” may well be the same India, where a lot of our “black gold” is leaving and which now does not at all seek to spoil relations with the United States. It was urgent to solve something ...

"Stick your sanctions ..."


And the solution is found. Elegant, I must admit, is completely not what Washington was counting on and therefore looking in relation to its frank mockery. Rosneft got rid of Venezuelan assets - decisively, definitively and irrevocably. But ... All of them were sold in no way to Western energy corporations (although, one can argue, there were such proposals), but to "a structure 100% owned by the Russian government." That is, one company leaves Venezuela, but not our country. We must pay tribute to the Americans, as mentioned above, they understood the meaning of what happened quite correctly. So, Patricia Laya, the head of the Bloomberg agency in Caracas, believes:

This step, in fact, gives the Kremlin an opportunity for a new maneuver - after all, the assets are transferred to the ownership of a structure completely controlled by the Russian government, which is not under US sanctions.

The rational decision. It protects Rosneft, an important asset in Venezuela, as well as the opportunity to continue to help Maduro, if there is such a desire. Moreover, it can help Putin help Rosneft during a difficult market situation. However, the details of the transaction are not fully known ...

- summarizes Francisco Monaldi, an expert at the Baker Institute research center in the United States.

However, Andrew Weiss, vice president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace research center, overtakes all his colleagues in terms of the degree of frankness and sarcasm of their commentary:

This is an uncoded signal from the Kremlin and Sechin to the Trump administration: put your sanctions in one place!

Honestly, this is not a free interpretation of the author, but a completely verbatim quote taken from the American media ... Given that the current head of the White House did indeed personally decide to impose sanctions on Rosneft subsidiaries, which was repeatedly emphasized, then yes - very disappointing.

In order to better understand the mood of American commentators, it is worth considering that these discriminatory decisions were, among other things, one of the tools in the war on energy markets that the United States is waging against our country. It can’t even be called undeclared - Trump himself and every second representative of his administration (not counting every first one) regularly declare from any rostrum their intention to rid the world of “harmful Russian energy carriers,” whose supply is, of course, “leverage of political influence” . The last “pearl” from this area was, if you remember, the announcement of the intention to impose sanctions against Russia “for destabilizing the situation in the oil market”. It is impossible to think of anything more absurd, but where is the State Department with the White House, and where is reason and logic ?! Now Washington is faced with a difficult choice — either to pretend that “everything is fine,” while the whole world understands that it didn’t happen according to his will, or try to start a trade war with the Russian state as a whole. Do you dare? I will allow myself to doubt it deeply. Recent reports from the "oil fronts" give every reason to think so. In the United States itself, everything is not just bad, but very bad. Black, sorry for the expression, "gold" has come down there to a negative price! Mercuria Energy Group Ltd, the seller of Wyoming Asphalt Sour oil, gives it to customers not for nothing, but pays 19 cents for each barrel removed from storage. It is slightly better with other varieties: Wyoming Sweet fell to $ 3 per barrel, Canadian Western Select - to $ 5,06, Oklahoma Sour - to 5,75, Southern Green Canyon - to 11,51. Plains All American Pipeline LP - one of the largest companies in the United States involved in the pipeline transportation of energy, not just asking, but pleading:

Stop drilling! Storage and pipelines are full! There’s nowhere to go!

The oil industry of the United States not only came to the disastrous line of collapse, it successfully stepped over it and now flies into the abyss under a peppy hooting more and more widespread coronavirus covering the country. Everything was very unfortunate, what can I say ... Moreover, Washington’s hopes for allies from the Middle East also did not materialize. Contrary to the forecasts of some analysts, Europe did not rush to buy super-cheap oil from shamelessly dumping Arabs. The reason is banal and has already been voiced above: "There is nowhere to go!" Due to the pandemic, the European Union is in terrifying economic, and in particular, transport and industrial stagnation. Moreover, Russia is again in a winning position. COVID-19 “closes” ports much more reliable than any customs. Overcrowded tankers are forced to hang out on raids, not being able to ship the delivered raw materials. But the pipelines do not represent any epidemic danger ... The most reasonable thing that Washington today can do with its anti-Russian sanctions is to really do with them not very culturally, but based on the current situation, it is quite pragmatic. Moscow gives him a great opportunity to get out of the situation with minimal “loss of face”, but he clearly indicates what he expects. Rosneft, through the words of its spokesman Mikhail Leontyev, has already announced that it is looking forward to when "American regulators will fulfill publicly their promises." That is - they will announce the lifting of sanctions, at least with Rosneft Trading and TNK Trading. Will this happen? The answer to this question no longer depends on the actions of the Russian side, which has de jure fully complied with all the formalities properly, but on American sanity.

Any other actions, except for the abolition of restrictions, will look, as mentioned above, the declaration of Russia full-blown economic war is completely beyond all laws and regulations. Is the US ready for such a confrontation today? The question is more than debatable.
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  1. Bakht Offline
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 09: 33
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    The decision is correct, but, as always, half-hearted. I expected a full package of US sanctions in April. So the decision now is timely. Why half? I expected the nationalization of Rosneft. But Putin still holds the position of liberalism and therefore will not go for nationalization. And this is fraught.
    He does not hit in full force. Maybe there are some political reasons for this. But they beat him at full strength. How long it will be going on?...
    1. boriz Offline
      boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 09: 46
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      The fact is that the company to which Rosneft sold the Venezuelan package is 100% owned by the Russian government. This, in fact, is the beginning of privatization.
      1. Bakht Offline
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 09: 50
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        It's clear. The decision is right. Now sanctions will need to be introduced against the government of the Russian Federation. And this is another reality. I wrote about this yesterday. But there is a clogged topic.
        But still - I was waiting for complete nationalization. Private companies will always be at risk of imposing sanctions. This must be borne in mind.
        1. boriz Offline
          boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 10: 03
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          And I just like Putin’s manner of acting gradually, in small steps. Too often in its history Russia has been waving too much, and then its efforts turned into a zilch.
          The same Turkish war of 1877-78. Putin himself said that his policy is not to drive the rat into a corner. And it is right.
          1. Bakht Offline
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 06
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            Maybe. That a rat cannot be driven into a corner is probably true. But I think that Putin simply does not want a confrontation with the West. And therefore, by such actions it simply shows that it is necessary to agree.
            1. boriz Offline
              boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 10: 24
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              Well yes. And among the owners of Rosneft there are companies from those countries that do not make sense to annoy prematurely.
              That part of the assets was taken out - this is well motivated by the actions of Trump. The owners understand, but the trend for Trump and others is indicated quite clearly. Like, Putin didn’t want to nationalize, Trump taught him bad things.
              Putin often gives hints.
              At the end of last year, he said that he did not want cleanings, it was then difficult to stop the cleaning machine. But he said that in the end - an ellipsis, a hint, do not force it to do it.
              And about criticism of the national policy of Lenin during the creation of the USSR. He perfectly understands that Lenin was forced to assemble an empire on a national basis. There are national elites, and it was necessary to stop the influence of Trotsky, who had influence, precisely at the federal level.
              But, realizing this perfectly, Putin made it clear that when the USSR was created, 2.0 national associations would no longer exist. 70 years of feeding riddlers and parasites is unacceptable.
              So in this case, with the question of nationalization, the arrows are transferred to Trump in advance.
              And when they try to declare sanctions to the state of the Russian Federation, they will nationalize the Central Bank and get rid of the IMF. And Trump will be to blame. But Trump, perhaps this is what is needed. For example, it will exit the IMF and launch a new currency. A lot of options.
              1. Bakht Offline
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 32
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                Response options to the full package of sanctions are known. Will the Kremlin go to him? That is the question...
                I said that Venezuela is the very davit on which everything is tied now. Get the States control over Venezuela - and a full package of sanctions would not be long in coming. But Putin has shown that Maduro will not surrender. To introduce a full package now is to get a refinery stop in the States and Europe. It is fraught with sideways ...
                The problem is that cowboys are sitting in Washington now. First we shoot, then we think.
                1. boriz Offline
                  boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 10: 33
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                  Well, Trump is a cowboy only at the bazaar level. When it comes down to business, he is very careful.
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                    Pavel Ivanov (Pavel Ivanov) 31 March 2020 15: 15
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                    Do not forget that this cowboy is a dollar billionaire who was bankrupt and earned this money in the most difficult financial market in the world. For his Volodya, Igori and the other bigwigs of our oil ship - small Guppy aquarium fish, which he swallows without noticing.
                2. mor7d Offline
                  mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 11: 59
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                  ... this is the dowel on which everything is tied now.

                  - what exactly is tied up?

                  full sanctions package

                  - what is this package? Have you seen him somewhere? And now a partial package? And what is in the "full package"?

                  To introduce a full package now is to get a refinery stop in the States and Europe.

                  - the wrong premise, the Russian Federation is now being driven out of the oil market and no one is afraid of stopping, there are giant suppliers, Saudi Arabia and America, there are also Canada and Mexico, Iraq, there are many who have oil, nothing bad will happen.
                  1. Bakht Offline
                    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 03
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                    Keep your hand on the pulse. States and Europe refuse to supply Saudi oil. And India to boot. It is easier for the states because shale oil is close in composition to Arbask light.

                    Many countries in Europe and the United States refused to buy oil from Saudi Arabia, since there is nowhere to store it. The kingdom is struggling to find new buyers of black gold. About this newspaper The Wall Street Journal.
                    1. mor7d Offline
                      mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 04
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                      Keep your finger on the pulse - they refused to buy oil, since it’s already nowhere to store.
                      1. Bakht Offline
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 08
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                        What's the difference? Do you know the difference in oil grades? States sold their light oil and bought Venezuelan heavy. Who will they sell it to now? Or the Saudis? Therefore, the storage facilities are also crowded. There is no one to sell. Texas freaking companies offered oil at a price of $ 5 per barrel. Could not sell.
                        So who will the States buy heavy grades of oil from?
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                      3. Bakht Offline
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 15
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                        Finally. They have long been buying Russian oil. 21 million barrels last year alone. Canadian oil is heavy, but its cost is under $ 60 and production is curtailed.
                        The question remains - from whom will the States buy oil for their refineries?
                      4. mor7d Offline
                        mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 24
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                        The answer remains, see above.
                      5. Bakht Offline
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 27
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                        I do not mind - let them buy. But why then increased oil purchases from Russia?
                  2. boriz Offline
                    boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 12: 27
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                    And last year, Rosneft's sales in the United States grew 3,1 times, compared to 2018. This is just Urals and fuel oil.
                    And Canadian oil is not very transportable and has a high cost, because mined in bitumen sands. And that Canadian oil, which is not produced in bitumen sands, is light oil. The United States and its own have at least such oil.
          2. boriz Offline
            boriz (boriz) 30 March 2020 12: 23
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            US Rosneft will not be able to drive out. Only Venezuela, Iran and Russia have heavy oil.
            There is it in Canada, but it is already very viscous, low-transportable and with high cost. And the 12 largest refineries on the Gulf of Mexico need heavy oil. And diesel fuel (as well as fuel oil and bitumen for asphalt) is obtained only from heavy oil. It will not be easy for the states now, they just do not have enough interruptions with the diesel engine.
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    Andrey Gladkikh (Andrey Gladkikh) 30 March 2020 20: 32
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    You wanted to say - nationalization?
  • mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 10: 07
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    I expected a full package of US sanctions in April.

    - your problem is that your expectations are based on incorrect distorted data, on a wrong perception of reality, hence the incorrect conclusions.
    Now about nationalization. What would it give? What is the point of this, what is the profit and to whom. I can say with absolute certainty that nationalization will be made when the company is completely ruined.
    1. Bakht Offline
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 10
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      Take it easy. With you, everything is clear to me. You can comment after the fact. Our difference is that I am not afraid to give a forecast in advance. And you can only comment on what happened.
      I'm not afraid to make a mistake. And you can talk

      nationalization will be made when the company is completely ruined.

      So it happens in the West. In Russia, this does not work. The company will be nationalized when the state decides what is needed. So far, there is no such political will.
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 10: 16
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        You can comment after the fact.

        - thanks for the permission, but can you comment on the ante factum? Show your capabilities, comment on what I have not written yet.
      2. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 10: 20
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        In Russia, this does not work.

        “You are just like through the looking glass.”
        Rosneft announced the cessation of operations in Venezuela. The nuance of the news is that the Russian government bought out all of Rosneft’s assets in this country. The press service of the RIA Novosti cabinet confirmed that the Russian government bought assets from Venezuela from Rosneft, and the company became the owner of the company. Apparently, we are talking about the classic nationalization of losses.

        Fully owned company

        - Most likely, the next Baikalfinancegroup, whose task is to simply pay Rosneft the amount to compensate for what its talented managers managed to do.
        And you say -

        So it happens in the West. In Russia, this does not work.

        Get back to reality.
        1. Bakht Offline
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 59
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          The reality is that you post old news. I have already seen this quote about five times.
          The reality is that Venezuelan oil will now be sold by the Russian government. Do you think that in the West I have not seen a company of three people (one of them is a secretary). And they carried the money in suitcases.
          So - the Venezuelan oil will be sold by the Russian government and it will be fraught to impose sanctions against the “next Baikalfinance Group.” And then, why did you decide that? The official buyer is the Government of the Russian Federation.

          Today, Rosneft entered into an agreement with a company 100% owned by the Government of the Russian Federation

          https://www.rosneft.ru/press/releases/item/200273/

          I saw the meaning of nationalization in this. Withdraw large Russian companies from sanctions. There will be continued sanctions - there will be nationalization of other enterprises. And the detachment from the dollar.

          Off topic. The detachment from the dollar is the second largest priority of the Russian Federation. Anyway, the forecast for the "big throw" by the fall.
          1. mor7d Offline
            mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 11: 43
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            It is fraught with sideways.

            - which side? Do you really think that someone is afraid of you and that this is not covering the losses of Rosneft from the budget? You are surprisingly naive.
            1. Bakht Offline
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 11: 55
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              Rosneft's net profit according to international financial reporting standards (IFRS) increased by 2019% in 29 compared to the previous year and reached 708 billion rubles against 549 billion rubles in 2018. Interim dividends for the first half of 2019 amounted to 15,34 rubles per share, which is 5,2% higher than the indicator for the first half of 2018.

              At the moment, the shares of all (ALL) companies are falling. What is Russian, what is Western. We will count the chickens in the fall. For 2020, no data yet.
              1. mor7d Offline
                mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 08
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                This is the answer, but not my question.
                1. Bakht Offline
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 09
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                  This is the answer to YOUR question. What Rosneft losses were covered from the budget, if Rosneft had one profit in 2019?
                  1. mor7d Offline
                    mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 21
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                    Mmm, how to explain to you, to make it easier. You have a company, you invested money in it, and it is under sanctions, i.e. no longer brings money, only expenses. And nobody will buy it from you, even drug dealers, they are not fools, it’s buying from you ... Ross budget, you received money that was lost due to sanctions. Everything is fine with you, but what about the company that now has the Ross budget? And it will be eliminated in a couple of months. Something like this.
                    1. Bakht Offline
                      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 26
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                      Simply explain to your dog.

                      This is not an insult. This is a quote from the movie "Risk Limit." By the way, I think it’s a wonderful film, because I saw all this with my own eyes.
                      How do you explain that, having gained control of Venezuelan heavy oil, the States will receive leverage over Russia.
                      And how do you explain that sanctions are a non-economic term. Sanctions are an attempt to change the state’s foreign policy by threatening the impoverishment of the entire population. Akin to the carpet bombing of the "Harris bomber."
                      And you still do not understand that sanctions are interference in the internal affairs of another state. This has nothing to do with economics. This is a pure policy.
                    2. mor7d Offline
                      mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 13
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                      Simply explain to your dog.

                      “It’s easier to explain to my dog ​​than to zombie propaganda.”
                    3. 321 Offline
                      321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 34
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                      Quote: mor7d
                      "Tell your dog easier."

                      - it’s easier to explain to my dog ​​than to zombie propaganda

                      Who would have written about “propaganda” ??? - he spits on the same training manual as Arkharov and Rambover - and here, in fact, is outraged by propaganda. bully laughing wassat
                2. Arkharov Offline
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 March 2020 08: 12
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                  They simply do not understand. Dill wrote, therefore, the ultimate truth. Faith, as you know, does not require evidence. Especially for the local sect of the "Dill Witnesses."
                3. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 37
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                  Quote: Arkharov
                  They simply do not understand. Dill wrote, therefore, the ultimate truth. Faith, as you know, does not require evidence. Especially for the local sect of the "Dill Witnesses."

                  Well, you think it’s possible for yourself to be a sect, although it’s different - it’s lousy, become like that, like poor Soviet Socialist Republics, but for some reason you are depriving others of the same right initially, why would it ?? bully
                4. Arkharov Offline
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 March 2020 08: 42
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                  Absolutely do not deprive, even in the soul support. And when will the first official "dill service" take place? And in general, it would be necessary to mind the charter, official registration, etc. And there you look, and the election of the 24th ...
                5. 321 Offline
                  321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 47
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                  Quote: Arkharov
                  Absolutely do not deprive, even in the soul support. And when will the first official "dill service" take place? And in general, it would be necessary to mind the charter, official registration, etc. And there you look, and the election of the 24th.

                  You need, you organize - and the charter, and everything else, and about the official registration - study FIRST LAW, everything is already written there, and not yesterday ... bully
  • Bakht Offline
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 15
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    Usually I do not look at the profile of the interlocutor. Only if it is very impatient.


    So am I talking to the troll? Or are you just logged in? Typically, beginners need time to look around. I must upset you. I do not communicate with trolls, and if you just logged in, then .... I will not give advice. :-)
    1. 321 Offline
      321 (321) 30 March 2020 11: 17
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      Quote: Bakht
      Usually I do not look at the profile of the interlocutor. Only if it is very impatient.


      So am I talking to the troll? Or are you just logged in? Typically, beginners need time to look around. I must upset you. I do not communicate with trolls, and if you just logged in, then .... I will not give advice. :-)

      I’m not going to say one hundred percent, but there are several here - reincarnations that can be removed or banned tomorrow, if not tonight, but, like that bird, are reborn under a new name ... bully
      1. 123 Online
        123 (123) 30 March 2020 11: 29
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        I’m not going to say one hundred percent, but there are several here - reincarnations that can be removed or banned tomorrow, if not tonight, but, like that bird, are reborn under a new name ...

        good Phoenix?
        1. 321 Offline
          321 (321) 30 March 2020 11: 39
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          And how many times this "bird" has already got out ... bully
    2. sgrabik Offline
      sgrabik (Sergei) 30 March 2020 18: 14
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      This is not just a troll, it is a ukrotroll. He has already lit up on other sites in a similar manner.
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 17
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        ... he already appeared on other sites in a similar manner.

        Judging by this, propaganda is your job. You are brainwashing on many sites, you know who writes where and where, a true professional!
    3. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 14
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      This I say to the troll.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 38
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        Quote: mor7d
        I say this with the troll

        Who makes you? And who would write about trolls here ... bully laughing
    4. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 28
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      I never look at the profile of the interlocutor. Even if it’s very impatient. It just won’t occur to me. Perhaps this distinguishes an ordinary person from a paid troll propagandist.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 40
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        Quote: mor7d
        I never look at the profile of the interlocutor. Even if it’s very impatient. It just won’t occur to me. Perhaps this distinguishes an ordinary person from a paid troll propagandist.

        They did not guess, as usual, it just gives an idea of ​​who your interlocutor or opponent is, nothing more. hi
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      Paranoid50 (Alexander) April 1 2020 00: 38
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      Quote: Bakht
      usually beginners need time to look around.

      Well, as a rule, in conjunction with various significant events, there is an invasion of freshmen, "young and early", but not far, for they quickly scorch (as now) and become uninteresting. As a result, they are just as quickly demolished, or they themselves fall off. There are persistent ones - the most repulsed ones, who, having run into a fast ban, immediately reincarnate and try to continue their garbage-subversive activities under a new nickname.
      On the "father" resource of "Reporter" (VO) such parsley occurs daily. By the way, "shot down enemy pilots" often flee here with the VO, trying to find the "last refuge" here. laughing
      1. Bakht Offline
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 1 2020 00: 45
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        I myself came here from VO, but for completely different reasons. I did not like the admins of VO. wassat
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    isofat (Sergei) 30 March 2020 17: 22
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    The tragedy of a fool is not stupidity, but a claim to the mind.
  • 123 Online
    123 (123) 30 March 2020 11: 24
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    The decision is correct, but, as always, half-hearted. I expected a full package of US sanctions in April.

    If you introduce all the sanctions at once, there is nothing more to threaten, the tool disappears, but there is no other, forgotten how.

  • Igor Pavlovich Offline
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 30 March 2020 10: 00
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    The author is in the Looking Glass - Sechin (Putin) directly told Madura - Bolivar can’t take two down ...
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      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 07
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      Sechin (Putin) bluntly told Madura - Bolivar could stand two!
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 10: 22
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        Are you from the moon or from Mars?
        1. Bakht Offline
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 10: 33
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          Does the fact that the Russian side has undertaken the obligations of Rosneft indicate that Maduro was abandoned? Stir the gyrus.
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            mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 11: 54
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            The fact that the budget paid for Rosneft’s obligations means that you paid for Sechin’s miscalculations.
            1. Bakht Offline
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 00
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              I asked that Maduro was abandoned or not? Which of us is from Mars or the moon?

              An alien flew to Earth. Well, he thinks it is necessary to make contact with earthlings. Looks - men are sitting, thumping. He comes up, says:
              “I'm Jupiter!”
              The elder looked at him, peasants:
              - "Pour Jupiter!".
              They drank, ate, sat .. This one beats his chest:
              - "I'm Jupiter!"
              Older:
              - "Pour Jupiter!"
              We drank, ate .. Then the alien gets up:
              - "I flew from another planet ..."
              Older:
              - "Sooooo, no longer pour Jupiter ...."
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                mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 07
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                It’s ridiculous. Not a joke, no. The ridiculous connection between throwing Maduro and drunks.
                1. Bakht Offline
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 March 2020 12: 10
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                  It's funny when they say that Maduro was abandoned. It just reminds drunk nonsense.
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                    isofat (Sergei) 30 March 2020 18: 25
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                    Quote: Bakht
                    It's funny when they say that Maduro was abandoned. It just reminds drunk nonsense.

                    It speaks of unconventional mental orientation. mor7d From Israel.
                    1. 321 Offline
                      321 (321) 31 March 2020 08: 42
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                      Quote: isofat
                      Quote: Bakht
                      It's funny when they say that Maduro was abandoned. It just reminds drunk nonsense.

                      It speaks of unconventional mental orientation. mor7d From Israel.

                      Rather, about his duty here to be, write and respond ...
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 March 2020 10: 39
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    Ha. Another urea breakthrough.
    According to Neukropny, if Yusa doesn’t react at all to Putin’s terrible trick, then this

    Russia's declaration of a full-blown economic war is completely beyond all laws and regulations.

    What happened before? Did the spools play?
    And what will the Russian Federation and the author do? Will they build another aluminum plant in USA? Or in the internet, the dollar rate will be banned from showing?

    And if the US sanctions still impose? Against the "" structure owned by the Russian government at 100%. " What the RF will do is clear. And what will the distinguished Neukropny do?

    In the meantime: USD 80,10 + 1,28 - a signal to the Trump Kremlin.
    1. 123 Online
      123 (123) 30 March 2020 11: 33
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      Don’t worry, you will erase your fingers on the keyboard, just leave a link:

      https://www.cbr.ru/currency_base/daily/

      Those who wish will see the course themselves. hi
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 March 2020 12: 54
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        Thanks. You have already done this for me. I will recommend you.
        Take care of your fingers.
        1. 123 Online
          123 (123) 30 March 2020 14: 30
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          Thanks. You have already done this for me. I will recommend you.
          Take care of your fingers.

          Leave a link to the gloves?
  • 69 Offline
    69 30 March 2020 14: 05
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    So what is this “maneuver” underestimated? They calmly carried out an international attack, killing Suleimani, and now have assigned 15 million for Maduro’s head. They wanted to give a damn about the “maneuvers” and the laws, who would be ordered next - this is a “maneuver”.
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    nbv 30 March 2020 14: 24
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    Another shameful “success”! Another shameful loss that will be presented to the public as a victory ..
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    gorenina91 (Irina) 30 March 2020 15: 50
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    - I read here, I read ... - all the same ...

    - About some kind of nationalization ... some kind of attempts ...
    - What nationalization ??? - It was only the Bolsheviks in their time - they took and expropriated factories; newspapers, telegraphs and steamboats; banks, mines and bowels, etc .., and then all this was nationalized ... - That was the real nationalization ...
    - And today, no nationalization in Russia is simply impossible ... - This is equivalent to how if in fascist Germany they suddenly took all the Jews back from concentration camps and give away all their property, which was previously taken away ...
    - In Russia, at the beginning of the 90s there was a "nationalization" ... - factories, factories, mines, the bowels of the country and everything else ... they took and turned it into bitcoins (yes, yes - exactly to bitcoins); those. material giant funds turned into "virtuality" and this "virtuality" has already acquired for a ridiculous nominal fee hundreds of one and a half Russian Russian nego_dya_ev ... - And all this "virtuality" again became tangible and acquired cosmic value and unique value ... - That's all "internationalization" ...
    - Well, you can still explain on today's "Venezuelan example":
    - Rosneft ...

    NK Rosneft is a Russian oil and gas company whose controlling stake is owned by the state-owned Rosneftegaz.

    ... - At the same time ... - specific Russian oligarchs stand behind NK Rosneft, who, roughly speaking, own a controlling stake (this is “roughly speaking”) ... - and specific Russian oligarchs also stand behind Rosneftegaz who also own a controlling stake ... - But Rosneftegaz allegedly owns (according to very, very "unverified data") ... already - the Federal Property Management Agency ... - And it's kind of like a "last resort" .. . - That's the whole "nationalization" ...- And what else do you need "nationalization" ...- Here it is ...- already there ... "nationalization" ...- Hahah ...- And what do you need more " nationalization "??? - Do you believe it ... - you want to not ... anyway - we arrived ... - This Federal Property Management Agency itself looks like a miserable "scapegoat" ...
    - Well, as for the Venezuelan assets of Rosneft, it’s not at all free that some “state-owned Russian company acquired them” or supposedly for nothing ... - A local fiscal speculative operation was carried out ... - And the oligarchs “behind” Rosneft ...- got their "legitimate substantial profit" for allegedly "selling" their assets ... - Well, and the following ... and so on "downward" ...- respectively - too ... - So, and who bought assets ??? - Federal Property Management Agency, or what ??? - Yes, hardly ...
    - Most likely, these assets became “bitcoins” (for a while) until the price of them soars ... - And then there will be “owners” right away ...
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      bayram (Vladimir) 31 March 2020 11: 30
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      You read, so you read, it seems reasonable, yes, it seems, no, that’s a stretch, yes, it’s possible, but it’s unlikely .. and here you are ... baby ... bitcoins ... everything is clear, special ...
  • Alexander Semenov (Alexander Semenov) 30 March 2020 17: 42
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    Given the stagnation in the world, US restrictions on the sale of oil by Rosneft for 12 months are quite possible ... and we'll see. Venezuela - this is only one of the concessions, we are waiting, where else will Russia cede. We don’t need to talk about the genius of the steps of our leadership, they are all by intuition so as not to harm ourselves, that is, the interests of the “business” or the friends of the business.
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  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 30 March 2020 19: 03
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    All this suggests that the current feudal (oligarchic) ​​system has completely outlived itself!
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    Atilla 31 March 2020 07: 08
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    Not necropic - a noble letter-carrier of nullified. All his articles about the genius of the leader and his henchmen. And about the fact that a barrel fell in price below the plinth, and the dollar exchange rate is rushing to no one knows where, it completely lost its memory. And about Leontiev, the flawed serf of Sechinsky, even nothing to say. He is in Africa, however.
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 31 March 2020 08: 08
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      Then such "letter-carriers" somehow suddenly and without a trace dissolve, having done a lot of harm to the country with their activity.
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    69 31 March 2020 08: 11
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    Quote: Arkharov
    Then such "letter-carriers" somehow suddenly and without a trace dissolve, having done a lot of harm to the country with their activity.

    Most of you after surfacing in Israel, nothing disappears without a trace.
  • mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 09: 52
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    It so happened that on the same day that the state bought its toxic assets in Venezuela from Rosneft, an inconspicuous and unknown to anyone oil company Roszarubezhneft was established, which is wholly owned by the state. With a solid registered capital of 322 billion rubles. Its leader was a man who had a job in Angola in his biography just at the same time period when the current head of Rosneft Sechin worked there.
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      bayram (Vladimir) 31 March 2020 10: 07
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      Aw, young man.
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        mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 11: 20
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        This is a quote, not I came up with.
  • Rus Offline
    Rus 31 March 2020 22: 02
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    Great Putin! Just a genius, and Sechin is a faithful ally and strategically the best top manager in the world! Everything is brilliant.
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    Atilla April 13 2020 05: 23
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    But I think that Sechin and Putin once again lost.