The probable cause of the low number of patients with COVID-19 in Russia


Scientists from four countries intend to test whether a vaccine against tuberculosis (BCG) can activate the human immune system, allowing it to better fight against coronavirus infection COVID-19. This is reported by Science, a weekly journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.


It is specified that the study will be attended by doctors and nurses, who are at greater risk of getting an acute respiratory disease (ARI). In the coming days, the first trials in the Netherlands should begin. They will attract 1000 health workers from eight hospitals. One of them will be given a real BCG, while the other will be given a placebo.

It is noted that BCG is made from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has almost lost virulence for humans, being specially grown in an artificial environment. This is now the only tuberculosis vaccine available. It is safe, cheap and requires only one injection. In many countries of the world it is considered as a life-saving and important element in the fight against tuberculosis.

At the same time, it is known that BCG can increase the ability of the immune system to fight pathogens, in addition to tuberculosis. For example, earlier Danish researchers Peter Aabi and Christina Stabell Benn, living and working in Guinea-Bissau, published the results of their clinical trials. In their opinion, BCG prevents about 30% of cases of infection with any known pathogen, including viruses, in the first year after its introduction to humans.

In turn, in 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated that it estimates the reliability of the results that BCG reduces the overall mortality rate in children as “very low." Moreover, already in 2016, WHO gave a more positive conclusion, but indicated the need for randomized trials.

It should be recalled that in Russia this vaccine is given to all newborns, since the country has a relatively high risk of contracting tuberculosis (compared to a number of Western countries where such a vaccine is not given). Probably, the reason for the low incidence of Russians COVID-19 can be dictated by this fact.

Of course, this is just an assumption. However, the desire of four countries at once to test this theory in practice makes us draw the appropriate conclusions.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 29 March 2020 19: 21
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    It is safe, cheap and requires only one injection.

    Fine, although the price does not matter when human life is at stake. hi
  2. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 29 March 2020 20: 01
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    What a nasty thing we Russians did not get sick, and adapted to everything ... Have you ever seen Norilsk children on an actress, when at -45 degrees in schools classes are canceled, they run out of the store with ice cream in their hands, and laughing and jokingly, they eat it, or they dig headquarters in huge snowdrifts and are happy to play war games, and no one is sick. We are such a nation, which mainly lives in the northern latitudes, and no muck is scary for us, but we still need to beware.
    1. albor.ru Offline
      albor.ru (Alexander) 29 March 2020 21: 45
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      Not quite so ... Having picked up tuberculosis, the peoples of the Far North are almost impossible to cure - the lungs simply "float"! Holes multiply. In Soviet times, in the Primorsky Territory there was some kind of small ethnic group that laid salmon caviar. But then these guys began to bargain with caviar ... They were forbidden to catch ... And the people from tuberculosis were on the verge of extinction, then they waved their hands at everything and the ban was lifted.
    2. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 38
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      Unique nation? Somewhere it was already.
  3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 29 March 2020 20: 15
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    In our pharmacies, almost any medicine is available - from antipyretic drugs through vitamins to heart protectors, to heavy antibiotics. And since we have 4 times more doctors per capita, you can drop by your neighbor / neighbor and get advice.
    In the USA, they will find out the level of your insurance by phone, and if it is less than 1000 per month, they will not arrive at the ambulance or be admitted to the hospital. And to give advice at home - for an American doctor - suicide.
  4. albor.ru Offline
    albor.ru (Alexander) 29 March 2020 21: 40
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    This is an axiom. Any vaccination causes a strain of immunity. Tuberculin even unofficially tried to treat a generalized form of cancer with melanoma.
    About the same thing with the measles vaccine.
    If we explain the term intense immunity, it’s like at a border outpost at night: the outpost is sleeping, only the guard and the duty outfit. When a vaccine is given, an alarm sounds and the entire outpost rises into a gun!
    Another extreme option is dormant immunity in an isolated tribe - even with a minor runny nose or other infection, the entire tribe may undergo extinction - they are simply unfamiliar with most infections! Their immunity is in a dormant state.
  5. albor.ru Offline
    albor.ru (Alexander) 29 March 2020 21: 54
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    One of the easiest ways to get a vaccine is to reseed a culture of bacteria and viruses on culture media.
    So they got BCG - the bacillus of Calmett-Jeren.
    According to the same principle, the attenuation of viral infections occurs - one infected the other, this other infected the third and the fourth is sick not so much and scary.
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  7. Dear sofa expert. 30 March 2020 11: 59
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    The idea of ​​BCG, by the way, is not without logic. The same can justify the lower susceptibility to the virus of all other peoples of the former USSR and the adjacent former Eastern Block. Even the lands of eastern Germany show better statistics than in the western part. In addition, in many of these countries the "traditions" of sanitary and epidemiological surveillance are still preserved.
  8. Dear sofa expert. 30 March 2020 12: 02
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    “One of the easiest ways to get a vaccine” (passive protection) is to use antibodies from a group of people who have recovered from Coronavirus.
  9. mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 03
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    Russian Prime Minister Mishustin asks authorities of Russian regions note to restrictive measures introduced in Moscow and Moscow Region in the light of the coronavirus pandemic and to work out the possibility of introducing similar ones at home.

    It is difficult not only to comment, but even to understand. The head of government in a critical situation “asks” to pay attention and, if possible, introduce something there.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 30 March 2020 12: 11
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      A request is when a person wants to do what he is asked to do (even if it’s hard for him, he still believes that he makes this decision).
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) 30 March 2020 12: 22
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        Clear. Those. like dnd or subbotnik. It seems as though you yourself want.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 30 March 2020 12: 55
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          Well yes. Remember how the poem was?

          I’ll ask, ”said the military man,
          Take your tool with you ..

          it seems like a request, but for some reason the stove-maker did not want to refuse).
  10. 69 Offline
    69 30 March 2020 14: 10
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    This is probably the first "epidemic" on a global scale that has a financial rather than a viral cause.
    1. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 33
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      What kind of financial? What are you talking about?
  11. shadow Offline
    shadow 30 March 2020 14: 20
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    The probable cause of the low number of patients with COVID-19 in Russia is named. That is, they do not know, but they print.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 30 March 2020 20: 07
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      Well, you also do not know, but print)
  12. mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) 31 March 2020 08: 33
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    Most likely, the reason for the low number of cases lies in the patient registration system. There is no registered patient, which means he died of old age, pneumonia, pneumonia, etc., underline what is needed. Yes, you still need to get a non-disclosure subscription from all healthcare providers.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 31 March 2020 16: 05
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      So you think that the scale of the pandemic can be hidden by statistics? But in other countries of the former Soviet bloc, there are also fewer cases than in Western countries. Do you think that Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians, Kazakhs .. everyone lies?
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) April 1 2020 09: 47
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        I saw, I witnessed how they brought people to the demonstration after the Chernobyl reactor exploded. To your question -

        Do you think the pandemic scale can be hidden by statistics?

        I answer in the affirmative, yes, I believe that in the same way you can hide the scale of the epidemic from people, especially since what is happening in Russia now.
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    Roarv (Robert) 31 March 2020 12: 11
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    Not a single Minister, State official, Doctor, professor, rehabilitologist, epidemiologist, doctor, not a single cured patient tells - informs about what symptoms of the onset of the disease ...
    One uncertainty .. Coronavirus, who gave birth to Coronacrisis, who produces Quarantine Service and generates huge sales - the demand for food, medicine, etc.
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    Roarv (Robert) 31 March 2020 14: 42
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    If you have no thoughts for making decisions, take the textbooks of the Civil Defense of the USSR and the Textbook of the Initial Military Training .... USSR
    Explain, identify, communicate to citizens. What distinguishes quarantine from self-isolation, curfew from the prohibition of walking and travel ....
    Clear. What they taught to suppress, but here it is necessary to save and provide assistance ...
    Accustomed to drive the fifth column and introduce the regime of CTO ..... Adopted a law on criminal liability for violation of quarantine, a fine of 1 million, Criminal punishment for Fake ....
    Gentlemen Deputies and Politicians ..... Instead of show shows on TV with blue participants .... you would have prepared the population for Civil Defense and created unions, but you are afraid of cohesion and self-organization of citizens ..
    ..You are the leaders of the State Duma, the Federation Council of the party in power when you optimized - they closed hospitals, clinics, paid doctors less than the police, judges, deputies, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ???
    Capitalism - Healthcare - Civil Defense - Incompatible Concepts ......