Italian professor: COVID-19 appeared in Italy earlier than in China


Italian professor, director of the Mario Negri Institute of Pharmacological Research in Milan, Giuseppe Remuzzi, said on the US National Public Radio that the coronavirus infection COVID-19 appeared in Italy before the outbreak in China. It was only called "very strange pneumonia." It is reported by the South China Morning Post - the oldest English-language newspaper in Hong Kong.


Doctors remember how they observed very strange pneumonia, very severe, mainly in older people, in December and even November. This means that the virus circulated, at least in Lombardy, and before we became concerned about the outbreak that occurred in China

- said Remuzzi.

Officially, the first case of coronavirus infection was recorded in the Lombardy region (Italy) on February 21, 2020. But Remusi’s words resonated in China, amid the recriminations of Beijing and Washington over who was to blame. In China, they are still worried that someone was trying to assign the name “Chinese virus” or “Wuhan virus” to the coronavirus.

SCMP adds that Remuzzy, already in an interview with the Chinese science and technology publication DeepTech, explained that the key point in the interview with the Americans was not where the coronavirus came from, but how far it spread before it was discovered.

The main question is how long the disease, which infected more than 378 and killed more than 000 people worldwide, spread in China before the health authorities realized its seriousness.

- said Remuzzy.

At the same time, Remuzzy noted that, taking into account the long incubation period, he would not be surprised if some asymptomatic carriers traveled to China and beyond before December 2019. That is, before the official detection of coronavirus.

The professor called for attention to the likelihood that the coronavirus might occur outside of Wuhan.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 25 March 2020 19: 36
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    Why then there was no mass epidemic and pandemic? Why didn’t a pandemic start from Italy? This uncle is not saying something. Although if you take last year, I have never suffered such a flu so hard as last year. And then he beat, infection, on the lungs and bronchi. Escaped with bronchitis. It's cool that I never smoked. Moved easier than those whose lungs are weakened.
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 27 March 2020 00: 16
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      This uncle is not saying something.

      Yes, he speaks normally. The version has the right to life, you have to dig and study someone. yes
      But all this does not honor the Italian health care system. repeat The Chinese localized the virus, brought it to "clean water" and started the fight, yes and the Italians mysteriously looked at the Leaning Tower of Pisa, prayed and wailed about "very strange pneumonia." what
      Where did the thousand-year experience of the civilization of pundits go? crying
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 25 March 2020 19: 53
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    Yes, several flu has passed with temperatures, many say.
    Strange, but tense ....
    Now there are a lot of Chinese tourists, maybe several diseases at once went in waves ...
  3. Dmitry Pozhidaev (Dmitry Pozhidaev) 25 March 2020 20: 41
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    In general, our people were sick since the fall. The cough lasted a long time. All winter passed in a strange state of health. Everyone had a strange cough. No fever, no particular discomfort other than coughing. Maybe he has been bothering us for a long time, this coronavirus, but in a slightly different form, less aggressive than in other worlds. Or maybe the Russian ethnic group, as one of the strongest, simply easily endured this rubbish. Due to climatic features, genetic, mental.
    1. isofat Offline
      isofat (Sergei) 25 March 2020 20: 56
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      Dmitry Pozhidaev, no need to fantasize. Or name yourself and your place of residence.
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 March 2020 07: 00
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        Well, for example, he will call, and then what will happen?
        1. isofat Offline
          isofat (Sergei) 26 March 2020 10: 19
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          Will not name, this is misinformation.
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            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 March 2020 10: 54
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            I look, you constantly rave with all sorts of hints of some, in your opinion, semi-illegal actions. The man said that he saw with his own eyes and he seemed to be ill with something, what misinformation? Did you sit at his head when he was ill? He does not specifically state anything. Or misinformation, which in this case, for example, was a cough? Do not go crazy on all this, please, the doctors are already very busy right now. Look very funny. By the way, didn’t you serve in counterintelligence with Kolchak in his youth?
            1. isofat Offline
              isofat (Sergei) 26 March 2020 11: 16
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              Gregory, I'm sorry, but I don’t remember you. smile
              1. Arkharov Offline
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 26 March 2020 11: 45
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                Do you remember yourself?
                1. isofat Offline
                  isofat (Sergei) 26 March 2020 11: 47
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                  Quote: Arkharov
                  Do you remember yourself?

                  Well, who are we with greetings?
    2. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 27 March 2020 00: 28
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      Maybe he has been fussing with us for a long time.

      Another virus is banging, self-medication is called. Literate all have become. crying
      Any virus is dangerous, it hits both the respiratory system, and last but not least the cardiovascular. So, if in the first two days it was not possible to cope with your own means, then at the very latest on the third you must run to the doctor. Then, perhaps, antibiotics can be dispensed with.
  4. Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 25 March 2020 21: 30
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    Giuseppe Remuzzi said on the air of the National Public Radio USA ... This is reported by South China Morning Post - the oldest English-language newspaper Hong Kong.

    Professor urged to pay attention to chance that coronavirus could arise outside of Wuhan.

    The set is very strange.
  5. Knut Johanson Offline
    Knut Johanson (Knut Johansson) 26 March 2020 19: 20
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    The Swiss Institute of Biomedicine in Bellinzona, which is located on the border with Italy in close geographic proximity to the focus of coronavirus infection, took part in the creation of a hybrid virus in 2015 (the Wuhan Institute of Virology was also among the participants), which turned out to be extremely pathogenic to humans. An article about this work was published in the authoritative scientific journal Nature:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985.

    Most likely, there was a virus leak from laboratories in Wuhan and Bellinzona.
    1. isofat Offline
      isofat (Sergei) 26 March 2020 19: 26
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      Knut Johansonmost likely there was no virus leak from the laboratory.
      1. Knut Johanson Offline
        Knut Johanson (Knut Johansson) 26 March 2020 19: 31
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        Two virus research centers took part in the creation of a highly pathogenic hybrid of SARS virus and bat virus, and both of the largest foci of infection coincided geographically with the location of these centers. Do you believe in such coincidences? Or do you want to say that it was not a leak, but a targeted diversion?
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          isofat (Sergei) 26 March 2020 20: 08
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          Knut Johanson, I don’t know, maybe you didn’t notice, but in your answer there is confirmation of my version.
          The version, of course, I turned down, so ... considerations.
  6. Roarv Offline
    Roarv (Robert) 27 March 2020 13: 25
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    I do not understand the statements and statements, where, from whom, how, in which country and from which the coronavirus appeared.
    Mattresses built - created a lot of biological laboratories around the world. They develop combat viruses, test them on the inhabitants of all countries .... Politicians of all countries lick asses for mattresses ... Now every nation + neighboring countries in which there were biological laboratories is reaping ....
    Previously, inquisitors burned at the stake. Now we need to save scientists, and burn every other politician in a crematorium .... So that it would be disgraceful for others to allow this.