Pay for success: why the self-propelled gun "Coalition" is not destined to become mass

Next year, state tests of the Coalition self-propelled gun should be completed. The most powerful Russian gun in its characteristics has no analogues in the world. However, she was not destined to become a mass weapon.


In terms of firing a conventional projectile, which reaches 40 km, our self-propelled guns significantly outperformed the long-range German Panzerhaubitze 2000, which hit 30 km. The pride of the United States M109A7 "Paladin" and does shoot at only 22 km. Today, only the French Caesar self-propelled guns, capable of hitting targets at a distance of 42 km, can be compared with the Russian Coalition, but not with conventional, but with active-rocket shells.

It is worth noting that the advantage of our gun over competitors is not only in firing range. Thus, the rate of “Coalition” exceeds this indicator for Panzerhaubitze 2000 by 12%, and the American and French self-propelled guns exceed 2 and 4 times, respectively.

In addition, the weight of our self-propelled artillery installation is 7 tons less than that of the "German". And yet, the Coalition is capable of firing automatically in artillery raid mode, which Caesar and Palladin cannot boast of.

It is also important that the Russian self-propelled guns can operate in a single divisional and corps digital automated command and control system, and its calculation is protected by the same capsule as the T-14 Armata tank.

However, despite its undeniable advantages, the Coalition is not destined to become a mass weapon. Created to replace the MSTA-M, the new self-propelled gun was more difficult to operate and almost 3 times more expensive than its predecessor. This is a kind of pay for success.

Thus, the latest self-propelled artillery installation is likely to be used as the “last argument” to strengthen troops in the direction of the main strikes. In addition, she has already managed to “scare” the Americans, who admitted that our gun is superior to its foreign counterparts.

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  1. gorenina91 Online
    gorenina91 (Irina) 16 March 2020 15: 42
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    Thus, the latest self-propelled artillery installation is likely to be used as the “last argument” to strengthen troops in the direction of the main strikes.

    - So then it was necessary to leave two gun barrels (the original version) ... - and in order to shoot at 40 km, we need ... - expensive "smart shells" and an excellent artillery fire control system ... - Personally, I I doubt very much that something like this exists in our troops today ... - That's why the Coalition remains "out of work" ... - As always, our artillery will fire "over the squares" ... in the white light like a penny .. - Generally then ... - it is completely incomprehensible .. why such an expensive "creation" ... and even a capsule for some reason ...
    - And the Americans easily covered our entire Wagner group a year ago with their artillery (without any losses on their part); thanks to an excellent fire control system and excellent adjustment from drones ... in real time ...
    - In general, it is strange ... - our defense industry does not have money, and it creates expensive weapons in order to ... - and "suddenly it will come in handy someday" ...
  2. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 16 March 2020 20: 36
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    During the Second World War, the German "TIGER" was also not massive. But our generals had to think over everything more than once. The T-14 and the Coalition are such weapons that even in a single copy will create such problems will not seem enough. Yes, I am outraged by the economic policies of our government! I want more. Moreover, we can and can! T-14 and the Coalition are new technologies. And the fact that they are embodied in iron in us is already good.
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 16 March 2020 23: 55
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      T-14 and the Coalition are new technologies.

      Hmm, rather, piece copies, which, because of the high cost and the degree of complexity of manufacturing, can most likely be called prototypes and put on a shelf in the museum.
      Maybe even the best practices from this project will be able to find application in the modernization of existing self-propelled and not very artillery.
  3. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 17 March 2020 22: 03
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    Quote: gorenina91
    Thus, the latest self-propelled artillery installation is likely to be used as the “last argument” to strengthen troops in the direction of the main strikes.

    - So then it was necessary to leave two gun barrels (the original version) ... - and in order to shoot at 40 km, we need ... - expensive "smart shells" and an excellent artillery fire control system ... - Personally, I I doubt very much that something like this exists in our troops today ... - That's why the Coalition remains "out of work" ... - As always, our artillery will shoot "over the squares" ... in the white light like a pretty penny. .. - Actually then ... - it is completely incomprehensible .. why such an expensive "creation" ... and even a capsule for some reason ...
    - And the Americans easily covered our entire Wagner group a year ago with their artillery (without any losses on their part); thanks to an excellent fire control system and excellent adjustment from drones ... in real time ...
    - In general, it is strange ... - our defense industry does not have money, and it creates expensive weapons in order to ... - and "suddenly it will come in handy someday" ...

    Wooden heads think (?) That such things can be created and mass produced, IF WAR WILL BE. Nothing like this. At that time, it would be impossible to make nails normally, not like guns. Therefore, the world, therefore, there IS money, that there are scarecrows that make an attack impossible, like Yugoslavia. And they MUST be, and in an amount sufficient to convince anyone to forget the thought of repeating 1612, 1812, 1941 and other years.
  4. slesarg65 Offline
    slesarg65 (Igor Ivanov) 18 March 2020 01: 33
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    Somehow I'm also an artilleryman. I'm a mortar gunner. And what is the difference between a mortar and a long-range howitzer? Nothing! Mounted trajectory and aiming in a landmark. And then the work of the spotter. A! So we now have UAVs! Here is the best spotter!
    So who is it about working on the area?
    1. gorenina91 Online
      gorenina91 (Irina) 18 March 2020 07: 47
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      So we now have UAVs!

      - “You” today ... have ... UAV ??? - Congratulations!!! - And they (these UAVs) can transmit data in real time; can they provide accurate target coverage ... at a distance of 40 km ???
      - Or are you going to acquire such UAVs from the Israelis for this; or the Turks; or the Chinese ???
      - Or you will be thrown by parachute and you will correct yourself, causing fire on yourself ???
      - No, well, you are a patriot, of course ... and a hero .., but this is already suitable for times of bygone wars ...
      - No, well, you’ve even served in the army; at least a mortar gunner ... - And then here in general the “soldered composition of couch heroes” crept up ... by ear ... have nothing to do with the army ... - only that_po and chorus of minuses blur out ... - And they are still compassionate admin already congratulated on February 23 ... - Yes, for such people it’s necessary to have a separate “Sofa Day” or “Men's Pantyhose Day” ... enter ...- Otherwise, they are also congratulated on the men's holiday ... as “real” ... - just scream ...
      - I'll put you a plus ... so be it ... a mortar gunner ...
  5. Palestinian Cossack (Andrey) 18 March 2020 13: 26
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    Forgot to compare with the Swedish self-propelled guns "Archil".