In the USA, they don’t see the potential of the Su-57 fighter and T-14 tank


Modern Russian weapons are a topic that constantly annoys the US military and weapons experts.


Sandboxx blog posted a record of former US Marine Corps officer Alex Hollings, in which he expresses doubts that the Russian promising Su-57 fighter and T-14 Armata tank have any military potential.

According to the author, for Moscow it is enough that they are talking and arguing about her new weapon all over the world. At the same time, in reality, this new weapon does not have mass production.

The author notes that Russia continues to develop these systems, despite the inability to finance their mass production.

Hollings is convinced that this is because the mere presence of military potential is often enough for Russia to be mentioned in the media alongside more formidable opponents such as the United States or China.

Further, the former military cites the examples of Su-57, T-14 Armata fighters, Poseidon, a promising global long-range nuclear torpedo, RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, and the Burevestnik nuclear-powered low-flying cruise missile, emphasizing that the presence of these weapons “constitutes a threat”, and the lack of mass production of the corresponding weapons “ultimately does not matter”.
  • Photos used: Alexey Vasilenko / wikipedia.org
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 March 2020 14: 58
    +4
    We are no longer referring to former generals, but simply to former military personnel ??? What kind of hill will they say ???
    Here, the GRF Tolboev is not asking anything ...

    And so, those who did not reach the troops Armata and Su are sucked by how much in vain every day somewhere ...
  2. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 14 March 2020 16: 24
    +3
    What can be the potential of piece copies? Private security companies to protect natural resources from local natives are very complicated technique.
  3. Regis Offline Regis
    Regis (Sergey Kopan) 14 March 2020 16: 49
    +5
    In Russia, they do not see the potential of the United States, this is already worse ....
  4. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 14 March 2020 17: 05
    +5
    And what is the potential of the M1A2 Abrams tank, which can be destroyed by a 12,7 mm sniper rifle, hitting the auxiliary engine, thereby causing a fuel system fire, or the Leopard-2, which explodes from the first shot from an RPG into the area of ​​the second rink (direct getting into part of the ammunition) ?!
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 March 2020 17: 57
      -7

      Do you watch many Abrams and Leopards destroyed on your combat couch?
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 14 March 2020 18: 16
        +5
        Quote: Arkharov
        You ... destroyed a lot of Abrams and Leopards?

        And on this, and on parallel sites there are enough people with BATTLE experience, so as for the sofa, it’s as if not to you directly ...
        PS And for what purpose are you interested in? bully
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 March 2020 18: 33
          -5
          You are painfully telling professionally how even a child can destroy these miserable crafts of Western tank building. Who knows what outstanding combat qualities your sofa has, and have you tried, in practice, with its help, these effective methods?
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 14 March 2020 18: 38
            +4
            You can continue to continue broadcasting about sofas; nobody thought to refute your personal experience in this rich experience. bully
            But even I have some more materials lying around on topics - where you need to shoot some piece of iron and with what, although for a long time I have been almost NOT interested in this ...
            But you write, write, you, apparently, have bonuses. hi
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 March 2020 19: 23
              -6
              And the piece of iron that the M48 had to shoot at, or is the M60 already? I hope the materials on the Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. E also not thrown away yet?
              1. plabu Offline plabu
                plabu 14 March 2020 20: 59
                +2
                Quote: Arkharov
                And the piece of iron that you had to shoot at, M48, or already M60? I hope the materials on the Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. E also not thrown away yet?

                For what purpose are you interested in such details? bully Do you have an admission?
                PS The last point of your opus can cost a lot of money, so humorize further ... bully
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 March 2020 21: 08
                  -5
                  I give for free

                  1. plabu Offline plabu
                    plabu 15 March 2020 07: 40
                    +3
                    Quote: Arkharov
                    I give it for free ...

                    What "depth of knowledge" do you have - to realize that it was about the PAPER version, the primary source, so to speak, what is stopping you personally? bully
                    And your pictures - who needs them and why? hi
                    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 March 2020 08: 29
                      -5
                      And you print ...
                      1. plabu Offline plabu
                        plabu 15 March 2020 09: 40
                        +3
                        Quote: Arkharov
                        And you print ...

                        Any sensible ideas expected from you? It seems that no, who needs this your ersatz? bully
              2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 14 March 2020 21: 08
                +3
                By the way, Mr. Arkharov, I understand that the logic you and Marzhecki have is special, but still let me ask you a question - If in Syria, Arabs exported 5 Turkish Leopards-2A4s to the light army with export versions of your weapon, then on what basis did you Do you think that we will not be able to do this with our non-export anti-tank weapons? Do you consider us (the Russian military) cowards, or ignoramuses, in comparison with the Arab soldiers, or you just don’t really like us and you want to wish out for reality? If you just don’t love us, just say so, there will be no more questions ...
                1. plabu Offline plabu
                  plabu 15 March 2020 07: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  ... Do you consider us (the Russian military) cowards, or ignoramuses, in comparison with the Arab soldiers, or you just don’t really like us and you want to wishful thinking? If you just don’t love us, just say so, there will be no more questions ...

                  I doubt that he will say, although he does not like, both Russia and its military ...
                2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 March 2020 08: 34
                  -6
                  Eco, where did your fantasy go, just like in interrogation. Take it out to you, let it be whom I love, whom I spit, whom I kiss. Kolchak did not serve in counterintelligence in his youth? Although, on those questions that you ask, you probably consider me an authoritative expert? Well then fine.
                  1. bear040 Offline bear040
                    bear040 15 March 2020 09: 33
                    +2
                    Shamanov served, ha ha ... 58 army.
                  2. plabu Offline plabu
                    plabu 15 March 2020 09: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: Arkharov
                    Eco, where did your fantasy go, just like in interrogation. Take it out to you, let it be whom I love, whom I spit, whom I kiss. Kolchak did not serve in counterintelligence in his youth? Although, on those questions that you ask, you probably consider me an authoritative expert? Well then fine.

                    Do not amuse yourself with illusions, no expert and does not smell of you, so, an ordinary balabol, no more ... hi laughing
            2. Vladimir_ Voronov (Vladimir) 16 March 2020 16: 35
              0
              Never argue with amateurs (.. idiots), first they will lower you to their level, and then experience will win.

              Popular wisdom.
      2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 14 March 2020 19: 00
        +2
        We have not yet had to destroy the Leopards and Abrams, but we were taught this and not at all on the couch. Listen to the song - "For cadet shoulder straps."
      3. Regis Offline Regis
        Regis (Sergey Kopan) April 1 2020 14: 12
        +2
        Little. Abrams is only one, if you count. Destroyed my unit.
        You see, creating a "miracle weapon" is the lot of Goebbels and journalists. You can fight on any technique. In Syria, both leopards and abrams burn very well, widely advertised, and if you believe, then "unkillable and great." Therefore, in the Russian section of the Internet, experts joke about the American "miracle weapon". In 1977, our deputy returned from Vietnam. head of the school. The Vietnamese army was then armed with Soviet American and Chinese equipment. Once in class, we asked him - how do the Vietnamese military evaluate the equipment of different countries? The answer was - in peacetime, the American one is good, but it is better to fight in the Soviet one ... Comments are unnecessary.
    2. master3 Offline master3
      master3 (Vitali) April 1 2020 18: 18
      0
      ... to the area of ​​the second rink (direct hit in part of the ammunition)

      - As I understand it, are you world of tanks addicted?
  5. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 14 March 2020 21: 21
    -1
    The discussion of the esteemed comrades has deviated somewhat from the topic of the article. It’s not about how good or bad the Su-57 or the Armata tank is, the point is that they do not exist in reality and they will not appear in the foreseeable future.
    1. bear040 Offline bear040
      bear040 15 March 2020 09: 36
      +4
      Everything is relative. In 2008, the Russian Federation had only a few missed weapons, essentially experimental Su-34s, which did not prevent them from being thrown into battle .. moreover, successfully. So in case of war, and the Su-57 will go into battle, there is no doubt about that ...
      1. xilia72 Offline xilia72
        xilia72 (xantos) 15 March 2020 10: 28
        0
        There are only 11 of them.
        1. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
          Wanderer039 15 March 2020 23: 21
          +4
          Su-34 in 2008 was even less. This did not prevent them from successfully undergoing baptism of fire.
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 15 March 2020 22: 49
        -6
        Quote: bear040
        in case of war, and the Su-57 will go into battle

        And they will fight a lot without an engine, avionics and weapons? fool
        1. Regis Offline Regis
          Regis (Sergey Kopan) April 1 2020 14: 19
          0
          And who said that there are no engines and avionics? Journalists? Oh well ....
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) April 1 2020 16: 29
            -2
            And who said that they are?
            1. Regis Offline Regis
              Regis (Sergey Kopan) April 1 2020 17: 52
              +1
              If even in the press, far from the aviation industry, they write, but you don’t see ... What can we say about specialized sites and the press. The horizon must be expanded.
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) April 1 2020 18: 16
                -2
                The fact that the engine of the "second stage" is not ready is well known, and with avionics in general it's tobacco - there is no chance to create it on your own, and in light of the sanctions, no one will help. And my outlook is no sideways here ...
    2. Regis Offline Regis
      Regis (Sergey Kopan) April 1 2020 14: 17
      +1
      You are wrong, the Su-57, T-14 and other models are and exist and are even in service with the units, but there are very few of them. For quite objective reasons. First, they are very expensive. Second, the old technique is still successfully solving all problems. Third, a conceptually new technique takes a lot of time to catch fleas in a structure. Third, the application of this technique requires a change in the psychology of the crews and command. All reasons take time.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) April 1 2020 16: 31
        -2
        Let me doubt how it can stand in service with the Su-57 if the only serial fighter crashed in December 2019?
        1. Regis Offline Regis
          Regis (Sergey Kopan) April 1 2020 17: 50
          0
          You have outdated information.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) April 1 2020 18: 12
            -3
            And what, besides the plane that crashed, are there still serial cars?
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  7. It’s not enough that some military serviceman has cropped up, maybe he was completely drunk.
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  9. g1washntwn Offline g1washntwn
    g1washntwn (George Washington) 16 March 2020 06: 42
    +1
    In order for its own man in the street to have a constant mess, the West constantly alternates stuffing about terrible Russians with the same fakes about "vodka, matryoshka, balalaika". This is propaganda and nothing more.
    As one Hitler officer wrote home from the front:

    We thought that Russians have only half-rotten villages, and they have modern cities and factories.

    - (not literally, but this is the point). The next "fighters for democracy" will surely bury them with the same letters.
  10. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) April 7 2020 13: 25
    +1
    Maybe so, maybe not. Not important. For this retired grief expert, a kick in the ass by an "ancient" kirzach will be enough. They are all "heroes" until they get close to the Russian conscripts in hand-to-hand combat.