The Syrian Trap for Russia: Moscow's Three Major Mistakes


An armed escalation around Idlib, in which both the Syrian and Turkish sides, and Russia have already been tightly bogged down, the level of a local clash is growing before our eyes, threatening not today or tomorrow to turn into a war of at least regional, or even global scale. Aircraft shot down in the Syrian sky, an attack on Russian journalists and their detention in Ankara, the fleet of warships pulling into the Mediterranean Sea ...


Everything indicates that this time things are more than serious and, most importantly, the situation is absolutely not in a way favorable for our country. It's time to try to look for honest answers to questions about why this happened. What and when did Russia do wrong, essentially, having driven itself into a trap?

Lack of a coherent strategy


Successfully launching a war and brilliantly conducting the first stage of the campaign, after which it seems to be won, is far from easy. However, the entire military history of the world convincingly indicates that it is often no less difficult to maintain and develop the success achieved. Without a carefully thought-out and balanced strategy to consolidate their gains, victory can easily “leak through your fingers”, like the hot sand of the Syrian deserts. At the end of 2017, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that the mission in this country was completed by our military, the situation in the country to which we provided assistance at the request of its legitimate government was stabilized. Syria is “saved as a state”, and most of the Russian expeditionary force can return home with honor and glory. These words, uttered at the main Syrian base of our air forces in Khmeimim, were to summarize their two-year war on the side of Damascus and mark themselves ... What ?! The answer to this question, in fact, "hung in the air." The farther, the more it became clear that the complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Syria, as well as their maximum self-isolation in the same Khmeimim and Tartus, will inevitably lead to the return of the same bloody "status quo" from which, in fact, everything it began. The defeat of the “Islamic state” was an unconditional military success, however, it did not lead to a final political settlement in the country. Too many forces sought to seize power over Damascus and far from all of them appeared under the black flag of ISIS. In the very near future, it became clear that in the struggle to maintain real control over the situation in Syria, our country will have to face, first of all, the United States and its allies - clear and secret.

In fact, as a result, a strange and ambivalent situation arose: how successful almost all the military aspects of the “Syrian epic” were for Russia, so slurred, inconsistent and contradictory political side. Everything is clear with the army: during the campaign, about 70 thousand of our military personnel received invaluable combat experience, mostly officers. According to the head of the national defense department, Sergei Shoigu, about 370 samples of the latest, most modern and advanced Russian weapons were tested and tested in the theater of operations at the local theater of operations. Our country has received for 49 years the right to lease a port in Tartus and a significant expansion of this only today Russia's foreign military base. All these are undoubted advantages. However, either by its unwillingness, or by the fear of firmly and unequivocally identifying Syria as the territory of its sole military-political interests, Moscow allowed to turn this country into an arena of clash of various states and forces, today striving to create and defend their own “zones of influence” there . Moreover, periodically to settle scores among themselves, even on the officially controlled territory of Damascus, as Israel and Iran allow themselves. Trying to maintain equally equal and peaceful relations with a number of “players” in the Middle East, who are often direct antagonists of each other, Russian politicians have failed to create at least the “friend or foe” system that is clear and understandable not only for Damascus, but seems to be for themselves. The inability to firmly draw the “red lines” and set the boundaries beyond which the vital interests of Russia begins led to the fact that the Americans in Syria got oil fields, and we — the bloody “abscess” of Idlib ...

They beat us, and we grow stronger ...


The implementation at the first stage of practically all the tasks facing our country: holding in power the allied government of Bashar Assad, asserting the superiority of the Russian army in the effectiveness of actions against ISIS over the troops of the US-led Western coalition, demonstrating the potential and capabilities of Russian weapons over time came to naught. Than? Our obscure actions in critical situations that went beyond the framework of the Damascus-Terrorists paradigm, or even the complete absence of such, even when they were necessary. The United States twice - in April 2017 and, almost exactly a year later, allow themselves to launch massive missile attacks on Syria, and their coalition allies also take part in the shooting for the second time. Moscow is limited to statements made at the highest level that what is happening is an “act of aggression committed on a far-fetched pretext." And at the same time, it continues to cooperate and interact with the US military stationed in Syria. No real response is being taken. Yes, what happened was by no means a military catastrophe - there are no large-scale destruction, as well as mass casualties. However, our allies are being beaten, while we “keep proud patience”. This is the beginning of foreign policy disasters ... Looking at the completely unpunished actions of the Americans, the conclusions that “the Russians will not get involved” made the predators a smaller caliber. As it turned out, they were right. Having taken the fashion of piracy to Israel in the Syrian sky, its air raids got away with just like missile attacks to its overseas allies.

In many domestic mass media (including on our website), which caused complete in puzzlement of the inaction of air defense systems, which, in fact, did nothing to suppress IDF air attacks on Syrian territory, received a malicious name: “formidable silence”. Even the tragic incident of September 18, 2018, when it was during an attempt to repel the next raid of Israeli vultures by the Syrian air defense, the Russian Il-20 was shot down, which led to the death of 15 of our troops. Not a single Israeli plane was forcibly “landed” by either our or Syrian air defense. The S-300 and S-400 air defense systems continued to "menacingly remain silent", and Tel Aviv continued to strike at their chosen targets, at the maximum, periodically reducing the intensity of shelling and bombing, and conducting them from a safer distance for themselves. Is it any wonder then that in the current critical situation the IDF also did not stand aside? According to reports, his aircraft last time, on February 28, launched rocket attacks not on "Iranian forces in Syrian territory", as was usually announced, but directly on the positions of the SAA. However, the connivance of the extremely arrogant actions of the Israeli military, caused by the reluctance to quarrel with official Tel Aviv, can not be compared with those completely ill-conceived actions that took place over the years in relation to suddenly turned from our eternal opponents into almost "first allies" on Middle East Turks. You can somehow understand the Kremlin’s reluctance to bring the conflict to a military standoff after the incident with our Su-24 in 2015. But why was it possible to create for themselves in Syria an additional problem in the person of Erdogan?

Ankara - “friend” with whom enemies are no longer needed


Completely “cut off” Turkey from the solution of Syrian problems was impossible by definition. And perhaps it was not worth it, perhaps - at least until Ankara acted as a situational ally of Moscow, pursuing its goals of neutralizing the armed Kurdish forces supported by the United States, and more or less faithfully participated in the fight against ISIS. Nevertheless, it should be clearly understood that the global claims of the Turkish leadership, above all - with Recep Erdogan's distinctive imperial ambitions, may turn out to be much more far-reaching than simply resolving the “Kurdish issue”. And so it came out in the end. Today in Ankara they no longer hide their own desire to create in the north of Syria a kind of puppet enclave controlled by it, or even to join this territory in Turkey. Seeing in Erdogan, which had suddenly “forged” from the faithful allies of the United States into an “implacable fighter against American imperialism,” a convenient tool for weakening its geopolitical opponents in the Middle East, Moscow began to support the cunning Turkish king not only in the political plane, but also in economic and military. It was tempting to “tear” this country out of the F-35 program and sow discord in NATO. Just now, our military experts are wondering - when will the Triumphs delivered to Ankara begin to pose a threat to our aviation — in June, April, or even earlier? I don’t want to talk about the “tying up” of South Stream to Turkey, although it will have to be sooner or later ... But from a certain moment, it was already clear to many observers that Erdogan was playing his own game, in which he pursued exclusively his own interests.

How much was said and written about the unacceptable rhetoric of Turkish dignitaries regarding the Russian Crimea? About their increasingly intense flirting with Kiev? About the growing military-technical cooperation, as if by leaps and bounds, with Ukraine, carried out contrary to the interests of Russia? They pretended that nothing like this was happening ... What can we expect now? Turkish "peacekeepers" in the Donbass? Absolutely not excluded option. The appearance of Erdogan's soldiers on Syrian soil was no longer for the fight against terrorists, but in the framework of the operations "Olive Branch" and "Source of Peace", as it now becomes quite obvious, only a breakdown of forces, which, alas, was a success. The Russian side supported these actions, as aimed at weakening American positions in the country, completely forgetting the saying about the appetite that "comes with eating." As a result, today we have the Spring Shield, whose operational plans, no doubt, were developed a long time ago. Now Erdogan is publicly, literally for the whole world, demanding that "Moscow go aside", leaving it "face to face with Assad." It is not difficult to predict the results of such a situation, and, nevertheless, Ankara has the audacity to loudly announce such unacceptable demands. Today they again made another “change of shoes”, instantly recalling membership in the North Atlantic Alliance and allied relations with Washington, which until recently had been blamed for all crusts. The Turks, judging by their boastful and self-confident statements, are set to war “to the end”. And all because they were not put in place on time. Today, Dmitry Peskov reminds the local politicians that, in fact, only Russian troops are legally located on the territory of Syria, who today are invited to "get out" from there. The rest, in essence, are aggressors and occupiers. All is correct. It was only necessary to recall this Ankara (and not only) much earlier. And so, to come.

Russia's withdrawal from Syria in the current situation will mean a complete and final defeat of our country, and, of course, not only in the Middle East. There is no doubt - the surrender of positions under Idlib "comes around" to us from Venezuela to the Crimea. What to do now, when the situation has come to the brink of a great war? Let it be decided in the Kremlin. The only thing that you can try to advise is not to repeat at least mistakes already made.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 2 March 2020 10: 20
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    In fact, this is not so.
    And the strategy, and friends, and the fortress - everything is there. It just needs to be measured in the modern way - money doesn’t smell ...
  2. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 2 March 2020 10: 29
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    The most important thing is not to panic, but to turn on emergency modes of exposure. No. 1 is the closure of the tourist flow from Russia to Turkey. The state must officially declare to tour operators that it does not guarantee the life and health in Turkey for Russian citizens. And if someone goes there at their own peril and risk, then let him get out by himself.
    No. 2 is the working party of Kurdistan. The people of the Kurds can ask Russia for help and Russia can "consult" with Erdogan - what kind of help should the Kurds provide to make Syria calmer?
    No. 3 - And which countries can replace Turkey in the supply of their products to Russia? Maybe they should give the most favored nation treatment?
    Even these three measures can cool the inflamed imagination of the Turkish Sultan.
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    2. master3 Offline
      master3 (Vitali) 2 March 2020 16: 10
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      No. 1 is the closure of the tourist flow from Russia to Turkey.

      - to the ass, during the last ban (when the Turks shot down the Su-24), the airport in Minsk was overloaded with Russian citizens who wanted to relax in Turkey.

      No. 2 - and Russia can "consult" with Erdogan.

      - Russia can "consult with itself, there Erdogan dictates the conditions. Russia got involved in the supply of arms to the Turks, the Turkish Stream, etc.

      No. 3 - And which countries can replace Turkey in the supply of their products to Russia ..

      - Burundi, Cambodia, Côte d'Ivoire, Eritrea, Iran, Myanmar, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Serbia, Sudan, Syria, Uganda, Venezuela, Zimbabwe - these are those who, for well-known reasons, “sympathize” with Russia - the rest are all enemies .
  3. Tektor Offline
    Tektor (Tektor) 2 March 2020 11: 07
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    The author was so able to spread his thoughts on the tree that he did not formulate his thought: so what is the trap ??? The fact that both Jews and Turks do not recognize their actions against Russian forces? There is no trap: if anyone decides to strike at our soldiers, he will pick up a strike incompatible with the existence of his state. Before Turkey, only the Black Sea, i.e. it is completely open to our coastal missile systems ... i.e. it can be systematically taken out in a textbook in a few days. How many Tomahawks did NATO need to surrender to Milosevic? About 900 and about 10000 bombs. Here you will need exactly the same. But Israel is even less.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 2 March 2020 13: 19
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      The author was so able to spread his thoughts on the tree that he did not formulate his thought: so what is the trap ???

      good Briefly and succinctly. hi
    2. Oleg Rambover Offline
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 2 March 2020 16: 04
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      Quote: Tektor
      There is no trap: if anyone decides to strike at our soldiers, he will strike a strike incompatible with the existence of his state.

      As if Turkey had already shot down our plane, the pilot died and even did not get off with tomatoes.
      The Turkish army is the second largest in Europe (we assign it to Europe) and the second among the NATO countries.
      And as if Turkey is a member of NATO, it’s not far from World War II. And it will raise the question of the existence of the Russian Federation (and the whole world). And for what?
      1. Tektor Offline
        Tektor (Tektor) 3 March 2020 12: 42
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        As if Turkey had already shot down our plane, the pilot died and even did not get off with tomatoes.

        This is piling up. Need "baggage", for which it is already possible to demand satisfaction. And Turkey is absolutely defenseless against our missile systems. And we can create a volley with a capacity of several hundred missiles, which will sweep away its entire military and energy infrastructure. And you can send any planes capable of launching TSA to finish off. This will take several days.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 3 March 2020 16: 49
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          Have you read George Orwell "1984"? There the war of Oceania with Ostasia is also about the main character thinks. Once again, the Turkish army is one of the largest army in Europe. If the Russian Federation begins to strike at Turkey, the likelihood of war with NATO will not be very strong. Russia cannot be defeated in such a war (I doubt that there will be winners in general). What is all this for? Are you ready to die with your family for Idlib?
          No one wants to escalate the conflict, but Turkey after such losses cannot leave Idlib, and the Russian Federation, I think, will not insist on their departure. This area will remain with Turkey.
    3. Accidentally Offline
      Accidentally 3 March 2020 07: 29
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      And Fedya ..... hi. What is the position of the military-industrial complex ..., i.e. military-industrial complex. And what are you going to fight, primitive slingshots and clubs? Do you even imagine the armed forces of Turkey? And where is the vaunted Serdyukov-Shoigu Army? Those. army of mercenaries? PMCs of our mercenaries a couple of years, the Americans in February 2018 gouged to pieces ...... and it was in Syria that there were somewhere from 200 to 600 corpses. They have parents, wives, children, etc., and they have grief, and they don’t know where the graves of their relatives and friends .... wake up, Fedya ...
    4. sturm alex Offline
      sturm alex (stumpf alex) 3 March 2020 09: 21
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      Only for Milosevic did someone say a word. And the Turks are not Serbs. Yes, and for the Turks, they will only help, and they will say, and sanctions will increase by the very tomatoes.
  4. Regis Offline
    Regis (Sergey Kopan) 2 March 2020 12: 26
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    The author pseudo-technical escalates the situation, i.e. acts in the direction of Erdogan's aspirations. Everything is simpler and more complicated.
  5. Tramp1812 Offline
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 2 March 2020 13: 19
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    Publication is perceived ambiguously. And first of all, because analytics is presented selectively, without interlinking with the totality of previous events. In particular, it is appropriate to recall that the Russian Federation, since the outbreak of the civil war in Syria, did not consider this direction a priority. That it became after active participation in the Syrian events of the citizens of the Russian Federation on the side of the IG. There was a threat of import of the "Islamic revolution" into the territory of Russia. This, as for me, is the main reason for involving the Russian Federation in the conflict. Before the defeat of the IG, all existing players somehow got along with each other. With the exception of Qatar, of course. And now it's time to get "every sister earrings." It is clear that Turkey is pulling for itself, the States for itself, Russia for itself, Iran for itself. The interest of Israel, which the author stigmatizes in the good Soviet tradition as a "pirate vulture" in ensuring the security of his tiny territory that is not visible on the world map. The Jewish state has no other goals. By definition. At the same time, the author admits a significant contradiction: on the one hand, the "predator" Israel "is brazenly piracy," on the other .... "Iran and Israel allow themselves to settle accounts in the territory controlled by Damascus (read Russia). Thus, when constructing a syllogism, the logical the law of the excluded third. Either Israel is a pirate, or Iran and Israel are settling scores. There can be neither one nor the other at the same time. Moreover, one of the parties is Iran, for some reason not a pirate. And not even a filibuster. And it seems even almost like a friend , comrade and brother of Russia. it was Iran, which invited Turkey to solve the division of Syria without Russia’s participation. Not a word about the position of the Arab states in the context of what is happening. Well, at least to indicate something, some kind of median, or to specify the goals of the SA, OAU, other Arab states on the Syrian issue: The main message of the article: the allies are not the same, the means and methods of the Russian Federation are not the same (Israeli planes do not go astray, the lessons of Turkey are presented).

    No guys, it's not like that, it's not like that, guys.

    And the conclusion: the author, however, does not know what to do in such a situation, but something needs to be done. As the classic wrote:

    Made a tit of noise, and lit the sea on.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 4 March 2020 00: 22
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      About titmouse equally applies to your review)
      1. Tramp1812 Offline
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 4 March 2020 07: 59
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        About titmouse equally applies to your review)

        I adequately assess my role in world history in general and the events around Syria in particular. Therefore, I do not try and did not try to light it. Neither the site nor the sea.))
  6. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 2 March 2020 14: 09
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    Without a carefully thought-out and balanced strategy to consolidate their gains, victory can easily “leak through your fingers”, like the hot sand of the Syrian deserts.

    Sorry for the curiosity, but where does the conclusion about the lack of a strategy come from?

    In the very near future, it became clear that in the struggle to maintain real control over the situation in Syria, our country will have to face, first of all, the United States and its allies - clear and secret.

    Who understood? You? For many, this was obvious from the start.

    However, either by its unwillingness, or by the fear of firmly and unequivocally identifying Syria as the territory of its sole military-political interests, Moscow allowed to turn this country into an arena of clash of various states and forces, today striving to create and defend their own “zones of influence” there .

    Moscow did not allow to turn this country into some kind of arena, all these clashes were before. Do you think it’s enough to designate the territory “alone” and everyone will agree? The USA, EU, Arab monarchies, Iran, Turkey, Israel, and China in absentia have interests. Just kick them all and say - is it ours? You do not exaggerate the power of Russia? A similar "feint with ears" is beyond the power of any country.

    Trying to maintain equally equal and peaceful relations with a number of “players” in the Middle East, who are often direct antagonists of each other, Russian politicians have failed to create at least the “friend or foe” system that is clear and understandable not only for Damascus, but seems to be for themselves.

    Want to reduce everything to black and white "friend or foe"? This does not happen, especially in those parts. If divided into conditional enemies and friends, it will not work to maintain relations with all parties to the conflict, and this, except for Russia, is not possible for anyone. There are no friends, no enemies - only interests.

    The inability to firmly draw the “red lines” and set the boundaries beyond which the vital interests of Russia begins, led to the fact that the Americans in Syria got oil fields, and we - the bloody “abscess” of Idlib ..

    Do you think that drawing lines and drawing borders is enough for the oil fields to come under Russian control and the Americans go to free Idlib?

    However, our allies are being beaten, while we “keep proud patience”. Foreign policy disasters begin with this ...

    Do you propose hitting Turkey, Israel, the USA and so on? Do you think it's time the whole world is in ruin ...?

    In many domestic mass media (including on our website), the inaction of the air defense systems, which was utterly perplexing, did not actually do anything to suppress IDF air attacks on the territory of Syria, it received a malicious name: "formidable silence."

    You have a complete misunderstanding of the situation.



    (look at the analysis of the situation from the student at your leisure). Do you propose building a comprehensive air defense system of the country?

    But why was it possible to create for themselves in Syria an additional problem in the person of Erdogan?

    What did you mean? belay Erdogan is also an agent of Putin? bully

    Just now, our military experts are wondering - when will the Triumphs delivered by Ankara begin to pose a threat to our aviation — in June, April, or even earlier?

    Experts do not guess, they analyze and predict. Maybe those you call experts are charlatans?

    But from a certain moment, it was already clear to many observers that Erdogan was leading his own game, in which he pursued exclusively his own interests.

    I will tell you a secret, to many, and not just observers, it was obvious from the very beginning. If for you this has become a revelation after a long time, I can only sympathize.

    How much was said and written about the unacceptable rhetoric of Turkish dignitaries regarding the Russian Crimea? About their increasingly intense flirting with Kiev? About the growing military-technical cooperation with Ukraine, leaps and bounds, carried out contrary to the interests of Russia? They pretended that nothing of the kind was happening ... What to expect now? Turkish "peacekeepers" in the Donbass? Absolutely not excluded option.

    Excuse me, are you relatives with Marzhetsky? By the way, what do you think needed to be done? Erase Istanbul to dust?

    Peskov reminds local politicians that, on a legal basis, in the territory of Syria, in fact, there are only Russian troops, who today are invited to "get out" from there. The rest, in essence, are aggressors and occupiers. All is correct. It was only necessary to recall this Ankara (and not only) much earlier. And so, to come.

    And how is it that it comes to certain? Do not share the recipe?

    Russia's withdrawal from Syria in the current situation will mean a complete and final defeat of our country, and, of course, not only in the Middle East. There is no doubt - the surrender of positions under Idlib "comes around" to us from Venezuela to the Crimea. What to do now, when the situation has come to the brink of a great war? Let it be decided in the Kremlin. The only thing that you can try to advise is not to repeat at least mistakes already made.

    What kind of care are you talking about? Idlib - our last bastion, then only Moscow?
    As a result, a lot of words, but not enough useful information, some lamentations.
    Tektor is absolutely right ....

    The author was so able to spread his thoughts on the tree that he did not formulate his thought: so what is the trap ???

    I’ll add from myself that in the dense foliage of this tree you can hide a lot of unsightly.
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    gorenina91 (Irina) 2 March 2020 14: 35
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    - The whole essence of the article fits into one phrase ... - "The East is a matter of complete ..." - I personally wrote about this more than once ... - And to climb there with good intentions ... is the greatest nonsense ... -Those. good deeds and generous gift intentions are perceived as a sign of insecurity in their affairs, dependence on others; and even at all ... - as a willingness to obey and serve ...- Like this ...
    - It is precisely to this position that Russia has slipped into Syria ... - nothing radical; rigidly constructive; no merciless punitive answer to the aggression committed against you ...- only slurred indignation and assurances of ourselves that this will not happen again ... - That's the result of such a "policy" ...

    There is no doubt - the surrender of positions under Idlib "comes around" to us from Venezuela to the Crimea. What to do now, when the situation has come to the brink of a great war? Let it be decided in the Kremlin

    - Ha ... - no ... ... that "comes around to us from Venezuela to the Crimea" ... - this goes without saying ...- this should not be considered ... - But it’s too small .. .
    - And here's how it all comes back to life in the “Bakhtiyar” CSTO countries ... - this is the main question ... - The same Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan ... - tomorrow they may begin to make such demands to Russia that it won’t seem enough. .. - Yes, the same Armenia and Belarus ... - they will also "not go far" from them in this ...
    - And what brutal demands can Russia make ... China ... - everything is already grown-up ...
    - So the mistakes are significant with their consequences ... -So, these consequences are the regularity of that sluggish and weak foreign policy pursued by Russia ...
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    Idi 2 March 2020 17: 28
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    In many ways, the analysis of the situation is correct. Only there is another important nuance associated with the nature of our king. Putin is always trying to build with world leaders (and with other politicians of a lower rank, for example, Lukashenko) personal relationships. He believes that after drinking a glass, eating pancakes with caviar, talking "heart to heart" with the leader of another state, it is possible to build relations between the states themselves. It turned out to be not so. Who just did not throw him, starting with Bush Jr. to Erdogan. But Putin is still trying to follow this failed strategy. This is nature, it cannot be changed. Maybe from a difficult childhood in St. Petersburg yards such a strategy of behavior has been developed.
    1. Poltora zemlekopa (Poltora Zemlekopa) 2 March 2020 19: 19
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      The whole trouble of today's Russian foreign policy is that Putin is trying to sit on two, three, and even four chairs at the same time, or even is trying to climb into one place without soap to the so-called "partners" like Erdogan and Netanyahu. For the sake of this, the Russian military, pilots and planes are sacrificed, this is already a tradition with the leadership, it’s enough to recall June 1941, for example, Stalin’s behavior in the early days of the war, Zhukov’s remarks about women who “are still giving birth”, etc. .
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2020 19: 13
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    Quote: 123
    How much was said and written about the unacceptable rhetoric of Turkish dignitaries regarding the Russian Crimea? About their increasingly intense flirting with Kiev? About the growing military-technical cooperation with Ukraine, leaps and bounds, carried out contrary to the interests of Russia? They pretended that nothing of the kind was happening ... What to expect now? Turkish "peacekeepers" in the Donbass? Absolutely not excluded option.
    Excuse me, are not relatives with Marzhecki? By the way, what do you think should have been done? Erase Istanbul to dust?

    Not tired of clowning around?
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      123 (123) 2 March 2020 20: 05
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      Not tired of clowning around?

      Not yet, I'm patient. winked If you notice, I do not clown under every article, this also applies to yours. So everything is in your hands, you take work more seriously, I just read and everyone is happy. good
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      Neurocrop (Alexander) 2 March 2020 23: 26
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      Sergei! As a relative to a relative, I’ll say: THIS will never get bored.
      Either the work is like that, or the diagnosis. Who knows...
      Yes, in principle, no difference
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        A.Lex (Secret information) 3 March 2020 08: 12
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        In general, as usual - winning the “war”, we lose the “world”.
        The whole problem is that the Russian Federation was initially in a losing situation. This is a war, and in a war it’s impossible to fight, to avoid losses among the “peacekeeper”.

        It is impossible to make an omelet without breaking eggs.

        Avoiding these very losses, our troops suffer unjustified losses themselves. And in war, as in war - either you or you. Therefore, ALL participants in ANY clash are cut with bitterness worthy of a better application. EVERYTHING ... except for Russia. Only Russia, substituting its military, is trying to cover up the peaceful and "peaceful" inhabitants of this territory. Only problem is that EVEN LOCAL RESIDENTS will never EVALUATE this! Today in the afternoon they, taking the “humanitarian aid” from ours, are smiling at you on camera, and this night this kid cuts off the head not of our soldier, so the SAR soldier is in their custom there. And we, with our charter, are stupid, cowardly infidels for them.
        Once again, this conflict can be resolved (if at all possible it can be resolved) only by smashing all the resistance to smithereens, despite the cries of the "enlightened world community." Because if you are not afraid, they despise you! And watching how the RF Armed Forces carry everything in their path and all those who do not obey the call to lay down their arms (excluding the troops of the official power), all sorts of Turkey, Cathars, and other Israeli Arabs will think a hundred times - is it worth it to communicate and deceive those who has a very short patience. And so ... THIS WAR WILL LAST FOREVER! The "good" police can not stop the slaughter - rigidity and uncompromising when restoring order will give a result. And only to the Americans this chaos will bring profit, and to Russia - only losses.
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          Tagil1 (Sergei) 3 March 2020 12: 07
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          Yes, you throw these "cavalry attacks." They sucked them during the Great Patriotic War. Enough already, "women still give birth." You have to fight with your head, and not with armadas of tanks. Especially in such a specific region as Syria, where everyone is at war with everyone. It is simply irresponsible and short-sighted.
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            A.Lex (Secret information) 9 March 2020 18: 09
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            Sergey, who told you that I am calling for "cavalry raids"? I'm talking about the fact that UNFILLED the agreement to lay down their arms - DESTROY. Moreover, to destroy remotely (such weapons are enough with us). And, in addition, the "infantry" - the ATS. These will even be glad that the war will end faster - 9 years already fighting! Now about the "women still give birth" - is that you, excuse me, about what? Where did I write or speak this or close to this? Something you're wrong there. And now what are they fighting in Syria? There aren’t our tank troops there, and I didn’t offer to send TV there - enough of the videoconferencing is enough to level everything out there. Do you know the specifics of TOGO region? Yes, everything is just there - since ancient times only power was respected. If you do not have the strength, then you can be deceived, violate agreements, rob, and simply kill - so as not to get in the way. And if you have POWER, then they will listen to you and do everything that you say. Bagdasarov says everything correctly, but he is special - not a couple to you.
            Here is your irresponsibility and shortsightedness ... you just said it to yourself - let’s continue to smear the snot on plates with them. Syusyuka with them longer, tell them more about the rights and about freedom - you do it well.
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    Dart2027 2 March 2020 19: 32
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    Another whining about nothing. For the author, the news is that in politics everyone wants to snatch themselves? Or is political PR a part of diplomacy? For information, the United States has been leaving Afghanistan for about ten years. And by strategy, does he mean the beginning of a war with Turkey, Israel, and Iran (this is at least), or immediately from the USA (hello "Fallout")? Russia seeks to achieve its goals with minimal losses, so there will be no beautiful gestures that will cost mountains of corpses. Well, for everyone who wants to “firmly uphold the position,” I can only advise you to do it personally, if not in the sands of Syria, then in the trenches of Donbass.
  11. Yes, in any way - Idlib must be taken and cleaned in black! This is the very den of ISIS! So let the UN, Americans, Europe, damn bald-tryndyat what they want, And we SHOULD as soon as possible TAKE AND BALANCE TO CLEAR IDLIB! N A L S O !!!
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      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 3 March 2020 02: 00
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      Urgent ride!
  12. Everything is clear with the army: during the campaign, about 70 thousand of our military personnel received invaluable combat experience, mostly officers.

    An invaluable combat experience would now be with the Turks, as with an equal in strength enemy, armed with modern weapons. It is difficult to call the use of aviation and calibers against insurgents in jeeps armed with small arms "combat experience." The lake has not yet reached the cooperative, that this is not the same thing as cutting the budget and draining the sawn off over a hill, buying yachts and building palaces. Everything is serious here. What is needed here is science and a serious military industry, not a gang of thieves.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 4 March 2020 00: 40
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      Well, about the rebels in jeeps, of course, you have turned down), where does American capital go into billions? On the "small arms", apparently?)
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    East - West (Evgeny Bormotov) 3 March 2020 10: 07
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    I agree with the content of the article. The situation in Syria is too controversial. In many ways, reminds Afghanistan. There we left and received the collapse of the Union. Leaving Syria will lead to the collapse of Russia. Definitely - you can’t surrender Syria. The trouble is that today's Russia is amorphous and represents the same loose formation as the USSR at the time of the ogre. contingent from Afghanistan. She cannot wage a serious war. She does not have internal unity and consent. The ruling elite is not viable in a state of war with anyone. In the country there is no force cementing the masses of the people, there is no idea for which it would be worth fighting for and laying down their lives. And for war, the consolidation of all sectors of society is needed, then this is an indestructible force. Now the government is not patriotic in fact, and the masses do not trust the government. War in such a tense situation cannot be successful. You can win the battle, but lose the country. The course of avoiding socialism weakened the country, made it unsustainable in the harsh conditions of wartime. In this situation, it remains only to save face in the smoldering hotbeds of conflict, i.e. do a good face in a bad game.
    1. Alexander Blagushin (Alexander Blagushin) 3 March 2020 10: 41
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      Alexander Neukropny is partially right. But what is the priority of our national interests now? Relations with Erdogan or relations with Assad? Need diplomacy and need military force. Sometimes Putin’s excerpt. East is a delicate matter.
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      andrew42 (Andrei) 3 March 2020 14: 42
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      This is true. The trouble is that war threatens us. But the trouble is that the barren nobility at the head of our "army" and our "factory".
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    Regis (Sergey Kopan) 3 March 2020 10: 32
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    How I got these experts and political scientists who have neither life experience nor professional experience. "Military experts" who did not even serve in the army as ordinary, "economic experts" who graduated from a provincial pedagogical university and did not even have their own business. You can go on forever. All of them are journalists, in one way or another, and depending on the presence of mind and erudition. I read the definition of the profession of a journalist:

    A journalist is one who knows how to speak in a concise and believable way about things in which he understands nothing.

    So, dear author, this is my impression of your work - scientifically, seemingly logically, but essentially "kindergarten, pants on the straps."
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    Tagil1 (Sergei) 3 March 2020 12: 00
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    Pretty weird article. The author either does not understand the tasks of the Russian army in Syria, or deliberately provokes the Russian authorities into rash steps. A hundred times it has already been stated that the Armed Forces are in Syria to combat the TERRORISTS. Not with the Americans, not with the IDF, nor with Turkey, but only with the terrorists. And this is a very correct position. Because, if you objectively assess the situation, the entire environment of Syria, to one degree or another, provides support to terrorists. So what? The author suggests that the RF Armed Forces fight with the whole world? It is simply irresponsible and even stupid.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 4 March 2020 00: 48
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      That's right, but the real Russian planes are not shot down by terrorists.
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        Tagil1 (Sergei) 7 March 2020 13: 47
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        Do you have any evidence? Not. Only assumptions. But, excuse me, building an entire state’s policy on assumptions is too irresponsible. We, too, believe that the Turkish column was not bombed by the Syrians, but by our aircraft, but officially Ankara lacks the prudence to blame the RF for this without reason.
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    What is all this for?

    It is interesting to observe how the Zionists dispose of foreign territories, which means Turkey is a piece of Syria with Idlib, under-hegemon is Syrian oil, to the noise, maybe Israel will get a piece of someone else’s pie, if they don’t hit the face, they will reach Russia in three years, very interesting arithmetic is obtained.
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      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 4 March 2020 11: 48
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      Quote: 69P
      Zionists dispose of foreign territories ..

      Who orders where? Fantasy?
      As I understand it, are you ready to risk the life of your and your family for the noble purpose of liberating Idlib from the Turkish occupation?
      PS Your Nazi views were formed in childhood or is it your conscious choice?
  17. Mikhail Vasilyev (Mikhail Vasiliev) 3 March 2020 23: 15
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    Pisaka shouted, crowed and, as always, fled into the shadows.