On the verge of war: Russia pulls together "Caliber", in Turkey - martial law


We are on the verge of a real war with Turkey, which is part of the NATO bloc. One gets the impression that the “agreement” between Ankara and Moscow, if there was one, was out of control due to excesses with Russian air strikes against the Turkish military. Perhaps historians will call this situation the Idlib Crisis.


On the eve of the militants launched a large-scale attack on the position of the Syrian army. Last night, the Turkish military destroyed a column of government troops of the SAR. The Russian Aerospace Forces delivered retaliatory airstrikes on the advancing, as a result of which the Turks, who were moving along with the advancing to actively assist them, fell under the hand. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation gave an official explanation in connection with the incident:

According to the transmitted coordinates, no units of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​the settlement of Behun were and should not be located.

In fact, the Turks framed themselves. However, for Ankara this was the last straw in the bowl of patience. What is happening in Turkey now leads to extremely disturbing thoughts.

At first, Ankara introduced martial law in the country, the head of state held an emergency meeting with members of the government. Turkish authorities also held consultations between NATO and the United States. Washington condemned Russia's actions and declared support for its bloc ally. NATO has accused the Syrian and Russian military of “indiscriminate attacks in Idlib,” called on Moscow and Damascus to stop the offensive and respect international law. Ankara initiated an emergency meeting of the North Atlantic Alliance in accordance with paragraph 4 of the Charter and warned that it would open its borders to the European Union for millions of Syrian refugees. Apparently, in order to put pressure on Brussels.

Secondly, in Istanbul, protesters moved to the consulate general of Russia. Turks demand to punish the military involved in the death of their compatriots. Responsibility a priori they have already been entrusted to the Russian leadership. The security of our diplomats has been strengthened.

ThirdlyIt is reported that the most popular social networks are blocked in Turkey. It is expected that today the authorities can officially declare war on Syria, apparently, the ability of the population to express their attitude to it has been taken under control.

It is becoming very disturbing. Once launched, a military campaign in Syria will inevitably draw Russia into it. An additional two Russian frigates, Admiral Makarov and Admiral Grigorovich, armed with Caliber cruise missiles, were sent to the Mediterranean Sea.

In Idlib province, militants use MANPADS against Russian aviation. So far, the Russian Aerospace Forces have successfully cope with attacks using active defense means with shooting thermal traps. But the logic of the conflict suggests that the next step will be the supply of Turkey to the American Patriot air defense systems, after which our pilots will begin to suffer losses. If air defense can neutralize the activities of the Russian Air Force, then the Turks and their proxies will receive a significant advantage on the ground, especially if they officially declare war on Syria and do not constrain their means.

In the event of loss of Russian aircraft from air defense systems, a direct conflict between Russia and Turkey may occur. It should be noted that at the same time, the attacks of the US Israeli allies on the positions of the Syrians intensified.
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  1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 28 February 2020 13: 12
    +9
    Marzhetsky, following the example of the Novodvorsky, again blames Russia for everything, and the contract, as you put it, got out of control because of the banditry of the pro-Turkish bandits operating from the territory controlled by Turkey, and the air strikes were a response to the Turkish lawlessness, and not the beginning of lawlessness !! ! SAM Patriot could not repel 100% of the antediluvian Scud missiles of the Khrushchev era in Israel, they will not save Turkey ...
    1. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 29 February 2020 13: 57
      0
      Yeah, the mustache is gone. Psychosis, however. )
      Even if a direct conflict starts, so what?
      Syria has every right to fight terrorists and their accomplices on its territory, Lavrov said this.
      Turkey is an aggressor, accomplice and sponsor of terrorists in Idlib, the whole world knows about this, including NATO countries.
      If Erdogan does not change his policy, then Turkey will end as Ukraine.
    2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 February 2020 16: 24
      -5
      During Operation Desert Storm, Patriot missiles destroyed 39 of the 62 Iraqi Scuds launched. The Patriots were not deployed against the rest of Iraq’s missiles, since the air defense computing systems determined the theoretical unattainability of the target. And what at the moment shot down the S-300, 400, 500, 600, 800, 1000, etc.?
      1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 29 February 2020 19: 41
        +4
        No matter how you like Israeli fairy tales, several missiles nevertheless fell in the suburbs of Tel Aviv and other territories supposedly chosen by God ... So Patriot is far from a child prodigy ... It’s enough that the S-125 shot down two vaunted V-2s and 2 F-1.
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 February 2020 20: 12
          -5
          No one ever shot down B-2. Do not read any garbage resources.
          1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 29 February 2020 20: 32
            +2
            Well, if you want to believe American bikes, believe it, only if the V-2 were not shot down, the Yankees would never have discontinued such a super-duper invulnerable plane as they want to show it ...
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 March 2020 11: 55
              -2
              ... only if the V-2 had not been shot down, the Yankees would never have discontinued such a super-duper invulnerable aircraft as they want to show it ...

              Is this the whole argument? Kindergarten, or correctional school? When, where, who and what brought down?
              1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 2 March 2020 21: 06
                +2
                Kindergarten believes in US fables, and I believe in the logic and the idea that no technically good modern aircraft will be removed from production ... and, of course, my friends from intelligence, and among my friends there are those who were at that time Yugoslavia.
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 3 March 2020 06: 20
                  -1
                  Those. you, only on the basis of your "logic", claim that B-2 were shot down in Yugoslavia? This is something completely new. I have never seen anything like this before, even on ANNA-News and in the newspaper Zavtra. If, of course, you and your "intelligence friends" have a clear idea of ​​what B-2 is and what would happen in the world if at least one of them was shot down somewhere.
                  1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 3 March 2020 09: 58
                    +2
                    This is not my logic, this is a scientific and technical justification. Normal, modern and supposedly invulnerable aircraft are not removed from production. And in the World, so much has happened. The wreckage of the downed F-117 fell at the location of the Serbian forces and was shown on TV, the wreckage was handed over to the embassies of the Russian Federation and China ... The Yankees were furious even bombarded the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia, trying to prevent them from being transported to China, to bomb the Russian embassy took a chance ... With the V-2, the Yankees were more fortunate, their wreckage fell in the location of the Croatian gangs and were quietly taken out to the USA .. After that, both F-117 and B-2 were removed from production ...
                    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 3 March 2020 13: 17
                      -2
                      Is there any slightest evidence of this, other than the “revelations of your friends,” your “logic,” or something else like that? Goleted fierce conspiracy theories. Tired of this already, you are all in your own style: you are talking about Ivan, you are talking about boob. Can’t you do without fabrications and manipulations? Let’s juggle with facts.
                      1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 3 March 2020 13: 43
                        +1
                        Personally, I’m not going to prove anything to you. You believe the words of the Yankees without solid evidence, and who you believe, me or Psaki, is a private matter for everyone.
    3. Andrey Gladkikh Offline Andrey Gladkikh
      Andrey Gladkikh (Andrey Gladkikh) 1 March 2020 12: 08
      +2
      Patriots can be supplied to Turkey not to destroy missiles, but to neutralize the actions of the Aerospace Forces in the skies of Syria. The problem is that the Patriots will shoot from the territory of Turkey and destroy them - this is a reason to believe that aggression has been committed against Turkey.
      1. vik669 Offline vik669
        vik669 (vik669) 1 March 2020 17: 42
        +1
        The problem is that the Patriots will shoot from the territory of Turkey, and on what territory, and the destruction of them is simply a response to the aggression of someone against, it seems understandable to competent ones, but by the way ...!
        1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
          Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 2 March 2020 21: 09
          +2
          And by the way, your and my explanations are not needed, and the truth is not needed. Remember the fable - “The Wolf and the Lamb” ... Russophobes will always blame Russia for everything, simply because they hate it ... They wedge it with a wedge ... We need to change and deal with them as they do with us. ... only in this way we can effectively resist them. We must proceed from the interests of Russia and its indigenous population, and these interests are above all ... We must act in ways that will be beneficial to our country and people ...
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 28 February 2020 13: 21
    -4
    Agreed for sure, but% of the agreement life will show.

    Remember, we have long convicted Erdogan of aiding terrorists. AND?
    Money doesn't smell ...
  3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 13: 24
    -7
    Quote: Sapsan136
    Marzhetsky, following the example of the Novodvorsky, is again blaming Russia for everything, but an agreement, as you put it ..

    What nonsense are you talking about?
  4. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 13: 36
    -6
    Quote: Sapsan136
    ... and the air force’s strikes were a response to Turkish lawlessness, and not the beginning of lawlessness

    Excuse me, but am I saying otherwise? I review Syria almost on a daily basis, try reading the publications first before blaming a stranger for something. Or are you one of those who pull the phrase out of context and yell accusations while running around with it?
    1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 29 February 2020 15: 48
      +1
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      Quote: Sapsan136
      ... and the air force’s strikes were a response to Turkish lawlessness, and not the beginning of lawlessness

      Excuse me, but am I saying otherwise? I review Syria almost on a daily basis, try reading the publications first before blaming a stranger for something. Or are you one of those who pull the phrase out of context and yell accusations while running around with it?

      Do not take it to heart, it is so virtually protects the homeland. laughing Let them have fun further, do not pay attention. Just calmly print your articles. By the way, you get them well. yes
    2. vik669 Offline vik669
      vik669 (vik669) 1 March 2020 17: 44
      0
      I do reviews on Syria - well, the question is - who did you? Try to read the publications first - but they write on the fences!
  5. Cheburashk Offline Cheburashk
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 28 February 2020 13: 49
    +9
    A panic article that calls, in fact, for Russia to give up or step aside. Particularly ridiculous in this article is the fact that NATO accused the Syrian and Russian military of “indiscriminate attacks in Idlib”, called on Moscow and Damascus to stop the attack and respect international law.
    Who called Turkey to Syria, who ????? Nobody called, but simply broke in and, accordingly, get into a tambourine, so they are also offended by this.
  6. Regis Offline Regis
    Regis (Sergey Kopan) 28 February 2020 13: 57
    12
    Sergey Marzhetsky! Turkey is fighting in Libya, in Idlib, in Rojava and in Iraq. For complete happiness, she lacks a war with Russia. And given the tensions with NATO countries? The adventurer Erdogan is still one. It can, of course, try to solve both internal (falling popularity, ripening dissatisfaction of the military, not very good economic indicators) and external problems at once - declaring war on Russia. Yes, but here as if more troubles did not come out. So, the author, analyst from you is NOT at all.
  7. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 28 February 2020 13: 59
    +2
    And if Assad makes a feint with his ears and Syria becomes the region of Russia? What will happen then? It was once a colony, and the Russian Federation is often accused of neocolonialism - why not?
    1. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 29 February 2020 14: 05
      0
      It is possible not to be a region, but to become a sovereign union state with Russia, while the "father" is wandering.
    2. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 29 February 2020 15: 33
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry S.
      It was once a colony, and the Russian Federation is often accused of neocolonialism - why not?

      Never been. It was part of the Ottoman Empire, and following the results of the WWII, it came under the mandate of France on an interim basis and by decision of the League of Nation ...
      1. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
        Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 29 February 2020 15: 52
        0
        France? Or I'm wrong?
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 29 February 2020 16: 55
          0
          Quote: Dmitry S.
          France? Or I'm wrong?

          Mandated territory is not a colony ...
  8. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 28 February 2020 14: 26
    +3
    But the logic of the conflict suggests that the next step will be the supply of Turkey to the American Patriot air defense systems, after which our pilots will begin to suffer losses.

    Firstly, it’s not the fact that they will deliver, they didn’t want to sell them in relatively “good” ones either. Secondly, it’s not enough to get the installation, you still need to manage them, which means that you will also need to train the staff, but this is not quickly done. Or will the Americans themselves sit at the remote control? Thirdly, how they helped Saudi Arabia or stopped Iranian missiles - they all saw it.

    If air defense can neutralize the activities of the Russian Air Force, then the Turks and their proxies will receive a significant advantage on the ground, especially if they officially declare war on Syria and do not constrain their means.

    What an impressionable you are. winked There is nothing to raise a panic in advance.



    If they receive, they can, they will announce .... Too much if. And if they don’t get it? And if they receive, but can not? If we consider all the possible scenarios, let’s discuss, just in case, how, if anything, to call the new Federal District, Byzantine or Constantinople. belay
    We are waiting for them on March 5, they will meet, they will talk, it will be seen there, but for now the "passions" will only glow before the negotiations.

    It should be noted that at the same time, the attacks of the US Israeli allies on the positions of the Syrians intensified.

    Any statistics? Do not tell me where you can read more?
  9. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 28 February 2020 14: 35
    +2
    Turkey and Erdogan deliberately escalate the situation. They know that in our country they think about their children, and then about Russia. Something in 2008 reminds. Scared, not scared - that’s the question. In general, our military knows what to do! Negotiations must be conducted when the surrender is signed! The military knows this, but Putin does not. He is not a military man !? In general, a decent person should quit after such results of his activity. Brought the country to war or shame?
  10. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 28 February 2020 14: 44
    +9
    In light of Russian domestic issues, it should be recognized that the tourist season 2020 for Russians in Turkey is successfully disrupted. Plus the fact that a couple of million more can go to the Crimea in the summer (fortunately, the train has already been launched). The downside is that in Crimea this year a shortage of fresh water is possible. And due to the lack of sanitary standards, outbreaks of infectious diseases are possible. But why the water supply from the Dnieper to the Crimea was not linked to the supply of gas, oil and electricity to Ukraine is not clear.
    1. Sapsan136 Online Sapsan136
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 28 February 2020 17: 22
      +5
      It is necessary to direct water from the rivers of Russia instead of the Ukrainian Dnieper to the Russian Don and Volga, this will solve the problems of water shortage in the Volga and allow to transfer water to the Crimea, and the problems with water that may arise in Bandera Ukraine are not Russia's problems and not its sadness! !!
  11. 69 Offline 69
    69 28 February 2020 15: 33
    +7
    It should be noted that at the same time, the attacks of the US Israeli allies on the positions of the Syrians intensified.

    And these scoundrels are there too, if Poland is the hyena of Europe, then Israel is the jackal of the East.
  12. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 15: 44
    -7
    Quote: Regis
    Yes, but here as if more troubles did not come out. So, the author, analyst from you is NOT at all.

    Who are the judges?
  13. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 15: 45
    -4
    Quote: Cheburashk
    A panic article that calls, in fact, for Russia to give up or step aside.

    Do not confuse panic with realism. hi
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 February 2020 18: 00
      +3
      Do not confuse panic with realism

      Realism is panicky. hi
  14. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 15: 48
    -4
    Quote: Dmitry S.
    And if Assad makes a feint with his ears and Syria becomes the region of Russia? What will happen then?

    There will be nothing of the kind. Grow up.
  15. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2020 15: 51
    -5
    - Well, the author is a respector and personally a plus from me ...
    - But only:

    An additional two Russian frigates, Admiral Makarov and Admiral Grigorovich, armed with Caliber cruise missiles, were sent to the Mediterranean Sea.

    - And what's the use of them ??? - Is that aug? - And who will cover these frigates ??? - The frigates will cover our base Hmeimim ??? “Or will Hmeimim cover these frigates ???” - Or will they alternate ???
    - And the "Caliber" doesn’t dance here ... - Well, for that matter ... - then it was necessary again ... - from the Caspian Sea the "Caliber" would shoot in the white light like a pretty penny ...
    - And then the weak frigates drove:
    - Firstly ... - this provokes Russia itself, as it were ...
    - And secondly ... - And then where will these our frigates go if the Turks suddenly close the straits ???
    - A question for backfilling, much closer (so that there is enough coal):
    - To the Baltic or North. Fleet;
    - Or on Daln. East to Pacific Fleet ... ???
    - Here, personally, I have said so many times that ... what ... personally, I have said many times ..:

    I’ve personally said many times ..:
    - Russia needs a powerful armored group in Syria; several aviation regiments; an extensive network of military infrastructure (military depots, arsenals, fuel and lubricants depots, assembly and repair shops and mini factories for the production and assembly of military and construction equipment; a powerful air defense system with all the attributes of satellite communications and modern means of tracking and coding information, etc. ..

    - That's really Russia in Syria today and was left with ... with a poorly defended base Khmeimim, with a small number of military personnel and ... and one "naked torso" ...

    If air defense can neutralize the activities of the Russian Air Force, then the Turks and their proxies will receive a significant advantage on the ground, especially if they officially declare war on Syria and do not constrain their means.

    - "Turks and their proxies" already have a significant advantage on the ground ... - Two or three more strikes against the SAA and the Assad SAA will simply run away in some direction ...

    - What remains of Syria ... - just ask to be part of Russia ... as a broad autonomy ...
    - And I personally wrote about this more than once ...
    - But only with this it is already too late to start something ... - Yes, and Russia does not have a powerful military grouping (military fortification of the region) ... - I also personally write about this constantly ...
    - So the situation is very serious ... - It’s just that today the world community can declare Russia the world aggressor .... - Yes, yes ... - exactly ... - And Erdogan will be supported ... and he will again support the refugees, and comes out of the water dry ... - Yes, and our guarantor is losing ground more and more ... - Alas ...
    1. Roarv Offline Roarv
      Roarv (Robert) 28 February 2020 18: 52
      +1
      Sorry, you at least have an idea how much what you have listed will cost the RF Budget ...
      It is cheaper and more effective to use cruise missiles with nuclear weapons in Idlib at the request of Syria, the Turks will also be interested in the desire to drive armored columns into a foreign country after that.
      In this world, in addition to sanctions, still respect Bravery, Strength ... and the ability to fight ..
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 February 2020 07: 29
        -1
        Sorry, do you even imagine how much the budget of the RF will cost what you listed ....

        - It is precisely because I represent - therefore I write ...
        - To have their positions in the Middle. In the East, Russia it is necessary to have more than one such expensive outpost ... - It just won’t work out differently ...
        - For 5 years of its presence in Syria, Russia had to create such an outpost ...
        - All this could be deployed in Syria and put all this by ships through the straits ... - After which the need for the straits would become simply "conditional" and Erdogan would have such a trump card melted in his hands ... - And no "armored" columns "it would not have crossed his mind to" drive into a foreign country "...
        - And Russia decided to rely only on its few VKS and weak base Hmeimim (which only the lazy do not shell) ...
        -Thus, all this Russia began to manage (and already managed) several times more expensive ...

        ... besides sanctions, they still respect Bravery, Strength ... and the ability to fight.

        “Yes, but this is precisely what the valiant Syrians lack;” who are not very belligerent even in the process of liberating their own state from bandits and they constantly need support from Russia ... - Here you have the whole war ... - for the "liberation" of their own country ....
        “And if there were a full-fledged Russian group behind the Syrians, their business would have ended in their favor a long time ago ...” - and the militants would not have shown such agility as they do against the weak and very unstable Assad SAA. ..
        - Yes, and after the end of the war in Syria - this whole Russian group would become a stronghold of Russia's eternal presence in the Middle. East ...

        - But this was not done ... - And now, together with the Syrians, we are reaping the bitter fruits ... of these mistakes ...
        1. andrew42 Offline andrew42
          andrew42 (Andrei) 2 March 2020 11: 37
          0
          Yes, all the weaknesses of Russia and Syria have long been known and listed, both objective and subjective. And the military presence is small, and the economy does not allow, and United Russia and the oligarchs have been eating away the country for 15 years ... Your conclusion is only incomprehensible. Surrender and leave? And what kind of "mistakes" did the Syrian state stupidly stomp on by gangs of armed mercenaries from the USA, Turkey and Saudi Arabia? Error that did not give up? What did not die? The assessment of the situation is sober, it seems, but the conclusion is stupid. There is only one normal output:
          1) it is extremely hard to beat the Turks if they attack the Russian Armed Forces in Syria;
          2) systematically support the army of the SAR, and even maintain a database under the wrong flag. In 1941, too, "bitter fruits" were reaped, but there the Hitler European Union was not a couple of Turkey. Late to sob when the fight started. If necessary, you have to beat with what you have, there will be no second chance - retreats are usually "scimitar cut." And 2 frigates are quite normal. Further, the Strategic Forces will talk if the "frigates" do not help.
        2. andrew42 Offline andrew42
          andrew42 (Andrei) 2 March 2020 11: 46
          0
          What should be the least concern in this situation is the “global community”. Under this label is only the "collective West", or rather, the United States with a pack of hounds and political jackals. Our country has already been imposed military bases on all sides, and sanctions have been imposed as much as they could. Fortunately, the world turned out to be a little wider than the “God-chosen” thought, it still has other players in it, the same China, the same Iran, and there are enough hidden disgruntled ones. But if Russia abandons Syria, then we’ll definitely be left alone (also not deadly) in the pen. The West does not listen to the weak, it uses them. We have nowhere to retreat in Syria. And there is no need.

          Not able to fight on a foreign land - there is nothing for you to do on the Fatherland either! We’ll fight on a stranger. I will not let the dogs to the Russian land.

          - it’s time to remind everyone of these words from the film “Alexander Nevsky”, both ours and not ours.
      2. Accidentally Offline Accidentally
        Accidentally 29 February 2020 10: 38
        0
        Robert, what if nuclear weapons fly into the Kremlin and what will happen .. ???
    2. Dear sofa expert. 29 February 2020 23: 35
      -1
      I have been reading your posts for a long time. Always write some amateurish nonsense.
      “..Calibers do not dance ..”, “..something weak frigates ..”
      Do you even understand what Caliber missiles are capable of equipping a special warhead? Explain, I hope, is not necessary, what is it?
      The frigate is a very powerful complex, equipped with hypersonic anti-ship missiles (“onyx”) in addition to the “calibers”, and most importantly, these ships carry with them these powerful radar and electronic warfare (EW) weapons. Plus, the latest laser weapons - well, that's right, by the way.
      For some reason, the BDK came up.
      But judging by the draft of the ship, the Azov is heavily loaded.
      This is the third trip of the Azov BDK to Syria in the last two months and at least the fifth since the beginning of this year.
      Do you even have the slightest idea what this ship brings with a load capacity of 500 tons?
      I suffered for a long time, but your tired stupid nonsense just read here.
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 2 March 2020 11: 50
        0
        ... and most importantly, what these ships carry with them is the most powerful radar and electronic warfare (EW) weapons. Plus the latest laser weapons.

        - It seems that you absolutely do not understand what you are trying to talk about ... - What is this "latest laser weapon" ??? - Have you fallen from the moon or something ...

        Do you even have the slightest idea what this ship brings with a load capacity of 500 tons?

        - Yes, you are a complete ignoramus ... - 500 tons is a drop in the bucket ... - For your development ... - a column of tractors with wagons will transport at a time .... - many times more ... - Hahah .. .
  16. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 16: 00
    -6
    Quote: gorenina91
    So the situation is very serious ... - It’s just that today the world community can declare Russia the world aggressor .... - Yes, yes ... - just like that ..

    NATO has already blamed indiscriminate blows.
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2020 16: 36
      -4
      - Yes, in the real life of Russia, it only remains to "tighten the tail" .... and put up with the state of things ... - But Erdogan is the opposite ... - dissolve his "peacock tail" ...
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 February 2020 18: 29
      +1
      NATO has already blamed indiscriminate blows.

      Do you panic again? Ah, NATO has already blamed. belay Ah, what shall we do now? request

      NATO reported on Russia's preparations for the massive bombing of Aleppo on October 20, 2016.

      https://rus.ozodi.org/a/28064347.html

      Jens Stoltenberg: All NATO countries supported the attacks on Syria on April 14, 2018.

      https://www.ekhokavkaza.com/a/29167781.html/

      His job is to blame some, justify others.
      What's new in this? request Are you not used to it over the years?

      Germany accused Russia of "carpet bombing" in Syria on February 10, 2016.

      https://tsargrad.tv/news/germanija-obvinila-rossii-v-kovrovyh-bombardirovkah-v-sirii_4469

      The Russian Defense Ministry called the report published by the American center Atlantic Atlantic accusing the Russian Federation and Syria of allegedly indiscriminate attacks on Aleppo, "a digest of reports of downed pilots" on February 14, 2017.

      https://ria.ru/20170214/1487940413.html?in=t

      Syrian rebels accused Russia of delivering a new air strike on a hospital in the city of Aleppo on October 2, 2016.

      https://echo.msk.ru/news/1848566-echo.html

      Why did this accusation affect you so much?
  17. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 16: 01
    -4
    Quote: 123
    If air defense can neutralize the activities of the Russian Air Force, then the Turks and their proxies will receive a significant advantage on the ground, especially if they officially declare war on Syria and do not constrain their means.
    What an impressionable you are. There is nothing to raise a panic in advance.

    As I understand it, you, you are all cold-blooded, will go to the barmaley fight. wink
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 February 2020 17: 31
      0
      As I understand it, you, you are all cold-blooded, will go to the barmaley fight.

      Well, certainly not you, all of yourself so scared. smile
  18. Roarv Offline Roarv
    Roarv (Robert) 28 February 2020 18: 45
    +2
    So the time has come to attach Turkey - the Bosphorus to the Crimea, those who join us with tomatoes and vacation packages will get passports right away, and the rest who survived the probationary period in the Gulag for those temporarily forced into re-education ....
  19. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 28 February 2020 20: 14
    +2
    The Turks fired at our MTR-schnicks and got them in the brains. Patriots will be destroyed by Caliber and Iskander ...
  20. Come on Offline Come on
    Come on 28 February 2020 20: 25
    +5
    You need to wet the Turks without looking back - they generally should not be there! This is not their country and no one called them there.
    1. xilia72 Offline xilia72
      xilia72 (xantos) 29 February 2020 02: 24
      -1
      Their country is in Turkestan in Central Asia.
  21. Come on Offline Come on
    Come on 28 February 2020 20: 26
    -6
    Quote: 123
    As I understand it, you, you are all cold-blooded, will go to the barmaley fight.

    Well, certainly not you, all of yourself so scared. smile

    Well, not you ...))
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 February 2020 21: 20
      -3
      As I understand it, you, you are all cold-blooded, will go to the barmaley fight.
      Well, certainly not you, all of yourself so scared. smile
      Well, not you ...))

      You hesitated, couch fighters. Are you going to go virtual warrior?
  22. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 28 February 2020 21: 42
    +4
    Gromyko is not there!) At one time, he lucidly explained to Turkey what would happen to her in the event of a war between states!)
  23. Alexander Paval Offline Alexander Paval
    Alexander Paval (Alexander Paval) 28 February 2020 22: 45
    +2
    I think that Russia is not worth playing "checkers naked." But to load the scales on South America is worth it. I do not propose exchanging Syria for Venezuela. I propose strengthening Venezuela so that the United States thinks less about Syria and Ukraine.
    At the expense of Syrian affairs, I think Putin did the right thing at first. But flirting with Turkey was not worth it. On the contrary, after the downed plane, it was necessary to undertake not only a war of tomatoes and beaches, but also walk bombs all over the seam. At that moment, Trump would have done nothing with our VKS. Not that moment. Turkey then has gone too far. And now Erdogan showed Putin cookies. He, as they say: ate a bird, and sat in his place. Putin needs to better figure out moves with the Turks. The East is a delicate matter, they can betray at any moment, and even for oil dollars - just by running.
    We must spit on the underwater pipe and return sanctions on Turkey. And ships with missiles can be brought not to Syria, but to the shores of Turkey. I mean submarines.
    1. Conn Offline Conn
      Conn (Conn) 29 February 2020 01: 20
      +5
      Putin is not distinguished by either intelligence or quick wit ... as he emerged in childhood, frightened from his Petersburg gateway, he is still scared))
  24. Monster_Fat Online Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 29 February 2020 06: 39
    +4
    From the very beginning, when Russia climbed into Syria, I wrote that this is the US plan to drag Russia into a war that is absolutely unnecessary and force it to spend its economic and political resources on this war, and even better, draw it into the war with Turkey. Apparently, the US has achieved its goal. In addition, from the very beginning I wrote that the “salvation” of Erdogan is a colossal mistake (just stupidity) of Putin, which will come back to him and all of Russia in the very near future, and it turned out that way, it is now very clear. It’s funny: according to the Russian media, the “defeated” and “ousted” US from Syria, together with Israel, which, as usual, “have nothing to do”, having pitted two “business partners in Syria”, now stand aside and chuckle , anticipating the subsequent events of their "beautiful" plan, when former type "allies" cling to each other in the throat and finally undermine themselves both politically and economically, burying Assad at the same time. yes
    1. Tania Offline Tania
      Tania 29 February 2020 06: 49
      0
      In a massacre with Outskirts pulled, with Turkey - too! But is it not time for the retractor but in plain text !! Trump did not dare to give even S. Korea the teeth - why ?! Not hard to guess!!
  25. Tania Offline Tania
    Tania 29 February 2020 06: 46
    +1
    ... the United States, Turkey, and, of course, Israel - everything - needed this gangster provocation !! DO NOT FORGET IT WAS ISRAEL, TURKEY WALK OUT of different caliber, to say the least !! They are cowards, by and large, and cowards beat the weak !!
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  27. Tania Offline Tania
    Tania 29 February 2020 07: 00
    +1
    ... What to do with this ?! - the main provocateur !! Here the other day, a certain Woland Shegelman again and again accused Syria of the death of our IL with our boys! But Pu is all fraternizing with the Zionists !! Pardons even !!
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 February 2020 16: 32
      -1
      And who actually directly shot down the IL?
  28. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 February 2020 07: 00
    -3
    Quote: Daladno
    You need to wet the Turks without looking back - they generally should not be there! This is not their country and no one called them there.

    So I understand that you will personally go for a wet?
  29. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 February 2020 07: 02
    +1
    Quote: 123
    As I understand it, you, you are all cold-blooded, will go to the barmaley fight.

    Well, certainly not you, all of yourself so scared. smile

    I'm not scared. I am reasonable and adequate. What can not be said about some of my compatriots.
  30. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 February 2020 07: 06
    +1
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The United States, together with Israel, which, as usual, “doesn’t”, having pitted two “partners in affairs in Syria”, now stand aside and chuckle, anticipating subsequent events of their “beautiful” plan - when former types - “allies” cling to each other in the throat and finally undermine themselves both politically and economically, burying Assad at the same time.

    A pessimistic but very realistic assessment.
  31. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 February 2020 07: 41
    +2
    Quote: Dmitry S.
    And if Assad makes a feint with his ears and Syria becomes the region of Russia? What will happen then? It was once a colony, and the Russian Federation is often accused of neocolonialism - why not?

    That is, the DPR and LPR with Abkhazia and South Ossetia — we are afraid to include sanctions in the Russian Federation, sanctions, and expensive to feed them.
    But we are not afraid to include Syria in the Russian Federation, we will feed the Arabs, it’s not a pity, right?
  32. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 29 February 2020 16: 42
    -1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Do not take it to heart, he is so virtually, like, he protects his homeland. Let the fun continue, do not pay attention. Just print your articles calmly. By the way, they are good at you.

    Thanks for your kind words. smile I will try.
  33. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 29 February 2020 21: 44
    +2
    This is where globalism leads. Now I would like to uncover and hit in full, but what do you think ... where to hit, when on the one hand the Turkish Stream ($ 7 billion), on the other side of the Akkuyu NPP (builds by Rosatom, $ 22 billion), on the third side foreign trade turnover ( $ 25 billion in 2019), on the fourth side, 150 Turkish construction companies in Russia with a turnover of tens of billions of dollars, on the fifth side ... on the sixth ...
  34. Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 1 March 2020 10: 11
    +1
    It is necessary to strictly warn Ankara that in the event of an attack and the death of VKS pilots, nuclear weapons will be used. At the same time, check the operation of the Strategic Missile Forces. And NATO will compress the rolls and be silent ...