Turkish military fired at VKS planes in Idlib


Airplanes of the Russian air forces, helping the Syrian army to deter the onslaught of illegal armed groups in the province of Idlib, were attacked by militants and the Turkish military.


This was reported by journalists of the TV channel "Russia 24", which are located in the Arab Republic.

The report said that militants and their instructors from Turkish units are actively using MANPADS against Russian and Syrian aircraft, but pilots are helped by altitudes and heat traps that are unattainable for missiles.

Meanwhile, on the eastern part of the Syrian front, the militants of the Islamist alliance “Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham” and the “National Liberation Front”, with the active support of the Turkish special forces, captured the city of Sarakib, the adjacent towns and a significant section of the M-5 highway connecting Aleppo and Damascus.

In this sector of the front, militant actions are supported by self-propelled howitzers and multiple launch rocket systems, as well as rocket launchers, artillery and mortars of the Turkish armed forces.

Recall that on February 26, the third stage of negotiations between the delegations of Russia and Turkey on the situation in Idlib ended.

At the negotiations, the parties did not come to a single decision and agreed to continue consultations.
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  1. Binder Offline
    Binder (Miron) 28 February 2020 09: 04
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    If the Turks really set the task of shooting down Russian planes, they would have coped with this task without any problems - there are enough funds. Apparently, the Turkish command has not set such tasks yet. It is clear that the Turks have a huge superiority of forces over the Russians in Syria, but the Turks are by nature insidious and cowardly, like all Muslims, so it is not a fact that they dare to engage in a direct armed conflict with the Russian Federation.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 28 February 2020 16: 58
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      Quote: Bindyuzhnik
      If the Turks really set the task of shooting down Russian planes, they would have coped with this task without any problems - there are enough funds. Apparently, the Turkish command has not set such tasks yet. It is clear that the Turks have a huge superiority of forces over the Russians in Syria, but the Turks are by nature insidious and cowardly, like all Muslims, so it is not a fact that they dare to engage in a direct armed conflict with the Russian Federation.

      They won’t go, the Turkish gut is thin. But Russia can. And then what will Erdoогan do? He broke pots with the States, and even teased. Russia tried to take advantage of this, even supplied air defense systems. Tomatoes, as a symbol of Russian-Turkish friendship, took in their markets. Now they are bombing tomato carriers. Under such circumstances, the main tomato bearer seemed to get on his nerves, both in Turkey and abroad. If the Turkish opposition revives, then Erdogan will be washed. It is high time. How pleasant in all respects (a womanizer, an alcoholic, a reformer) was Ataturk, Erdogan is so disliked. We-lo !!!
      1. Binder Offline
        Binder (Miron) 29 February 2020 02: 58
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        Quote: Rogue1812
        But Russia can. And then what will Erdoогan do?

        Not a damn thing really Russia in the current situation can and Erdogan understands this.
        1. Tramp1812 Offline
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 February 2020 15: 30
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          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          Quote: Rogue1812
          But Russia can. And then what will Erdoогan do?

          Not a damn thing really Russia in the current situation can and Erdogan understands this.

          An indefinite business trip to the world of another 33 Turkish heroes of the Black Sea uncle Erdogan suggests the opposite. Something I can not believe that this is the work of the Syrian Pokryshkin. And Erdogan’s reaction is indicative: "We will take revenge, we will cruelly take revenge ... Assad, who will go down in history books as a war criminal." What does Assad have to do with it? Does Erdogan really don’t know, or don’t understand whose hands it is? And if he understands and gets untied on Assad, then he is afraid. Is such a map arrangement interesting for Israel? As for me - of course. Moscow, while aggravating relations with Ankara, will accordingly strengthen military and economic ties with Israel. Which are already at a good level today. At the same time, the regime of the enemy of Israel, Iran, will weaken and isolate. It's simple: what is bad for Iran and Turkey is good for Israel. I do not identify the official position of Russia in relation to Israel with the subjective opinion of some individual emotional characters of the site who hate the State of Israel in general, Zionism and Jews in particular. These are two big differences. Eich, medabrim bodesa - ele schneim edelim gdolim.
          1. Binder Offline
            Binder (Miron) 29 February 2020 21: 45
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            Quote: Rogue1812
            Something I can not believe that this is the work of the Syrian Pokryshkin.

            In order to send three dozen Turks to the guria, it is not necessary to be an ace - just one NURS, accidentally hit the target, so that the Syrian flyers themselves could well carry out this outstanding feat.

            Quote: Rogue1812
            And Erdogan’s reaction is indicative

            I want to remind you that in 2015, the Turks were not afraid to shoot down a Russian attack aircraft that entered the airspace of Turkey for a few kilometers, did they suddenly suddenly lose their former determination?

            Quote: Rogue1812
            Moscow, while aggravating relations with Ankara, will accordingly strengthen military and economic ties with Israel

            This is beneficial to Moscow - now that sanctions have been imposed on the Russian Federation, Israel is a window into the outside world through which various kinds of contacts take place.

            Quote: Rogue1812
            At the same time, the regime of the enemy of Israel - Iran will weaken and isolate

            In this matter, Russia is guided exclusively by its own interests - the Persians for Russians in Syria are not only situational allies, but also competitors, the less their influence will be, the more the influence of Russians will increase. For the Israelis, it would be an ideal option if the entire territory of the UAR altogether turned into a subject of the Russian Federation, but this, as we all understand, is far from reality, alas ...
  2. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 28 February 2020 09: 31
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    On our side, a “caliber” strike on terrorists would not be in the way. To the Turks calmed down a little. And then insolently trying to bring down our aircraft. And the highway must be freed before March 5!
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    69 28 February 2020 10: 13
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    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    but Turks by nature are insidious and cowardly, like all Muslims

    No more cowardly than the Zionists, but they are clearly inferior in meanness and bragging.
  4. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 28 February 2020 10: 50
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    To apply the ODAB-500P and ODAB-1500 volumetric explosion air bombs to bandits, it’s enough to stand on ceremony with them ... Let them burn in hell!
  5. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2020 14: 25
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    The report said that militants and their instructors from Turkish units are actively using MANPADS against Russian and Syrian aircraft, but pilots are helped by altitudes and heat traps that are unattainable for missiles.

    - Yes, yes, yes ... - "helps out" ... - Where does such calmness come from ... - And how will the militants get something "more serious" and they will start to shoot down ours ... - And then it will begin (as always) ... - Well, who would have thought that Ukraine delivered its “Buki” to Syria for the militants (after all, Erdogan goes to Ukraine just like that - drink some gorilki and eat some bacon) ... or who could have expected the Turks, too - they delivered air defense means to the militants (or even the Turks themselves arrived with these air defense to shoot from them) ...
    - Such "complacency" is simply criminal ...
    1. Tramp1812 Offline
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 28 February 2020 16: 49
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      As for me, you are right. This is an equation with many unknowns. And many introductory ones. From the introduction of which depends the change, it would seem, already calculated option. Here take the "film Melnichenko." Suddenly it turned out that through Jordan, Ukraine delivered “Chainmail” to Iraq, which was used by the United States very successfully .... The Turks went to increase tension, Russia is waiting. But her last moves show that the Turks marked the boundaries of progress. Very unobtrusively hit them. And explanations, such as that we de warned the Turks, and they answered us that they were not there, did not roll. All perfectly understood. The states seem to have taken a favorite position: to intervene when it is clear which one will take. Iran, in this situation, is completely out of work. It's time to reel manat. And to the house to the hut. Israel plays very competently: we wish you happiness and cheer for the victory of all parties. Optimal position. Well, and how will the heart calm down? I believe the partition of Syria. Nobody will succeed in crushing her under him. Assad can survive in his enclave, like other puppets in his own. And each in his zone of influence will deal with individual gangs. But all this will not happen all of a sudden and not now. Much more blood will be shed.
      1. gorenina91 Offline
        gorenina91 (Irina) 28 February 2020 17: 12
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        Well, and how will the heart calm down? I believe the partition of Syria. Nobody will succeed in crushing her under him.

        Yes, but the division can take place only on the principle ... - "Here you have the tops, and I'll take the roots" ... - That is. Asadovskaya (pro-Russian) Syria will end up with endless sand dunes with destroyed cities and with the absence of not only hydrocarbon reserves (oil and gas); but also simply - with the lack of fresh water ... - yes, yes, yes - everyone, like parrots, repeats about Syrian oil, but meanwhile there is no fresh water in Syria ... - water flows to Syria from Turkey ... - Moreover, both rivers (Tigris and Euphrates) flowing from Turkish territory are systematically blocked by dams. Turkey is currently implementing a grandiose project of Southeast Anatolia (Southeast Asia) ... - According to Turkish data, the full implementation of the Southeast Asian project will reduce river flow to Syria to almost zero. But the Euphrates provides the flow of 80% of the total water resources of the Syrian rivers.
        - Our Crimea just nervously smokes on the sidelines ...
        - So Russia will build in the Syrian deserts of the city and ... bring water ... - But that's where to bring it ???
        1. Tramp1812 Offline
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 28 February 2020 22: 20
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          I recall the heroine of Nona Mordyukova:

          And do not buy - turn off the gas!

          The demarcation lines will pass exactly where, who, and what time to fight. About the sands and

          ... the fifth day without water, all camels come, may Allah help them in loose sand ...

          But the new state formations are not the former Syria. The border area with Israel may well make peace with the Jewish state. And he will receive water, as, for example, Jordan, or reconciled Egypt - gas. After all, it is a misconception that the only source of water in Israel is Kinneret. In our country - the most powerful and modern desalination of sea water. According to the conclusion of WHO, it can be drunk from the tap without filtering. What I am doing. Alive, however. So the problem is solved with water. With recovery, in principle, you can also figure it out. Cheap labor, assembly points for branded products. He took, for example, in Munich Levi Strauss jeans: made in Bangladesh, Israeli “Castro” were sewn there, and “Nike” sneakers - Vietnam, China. Profitable. Cost is low. The basics of economics. The main thing is to end the war and deal with the gangs. Just not on the principle: my gangs are fighters for world peace, and my opponents are monsters of the human race. Without exception, all non-state armed groups must be disarmed, and those who do not want to do this are neutralized in the most severe way. There will be no winners in Syria. They will not divide the territory according to interests - the eternal eyelids will fight.
      2. gorenina91 Offline
        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 February 2020 07: 04
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        Vagrant1812 (Vagrant1812) Yesterday, 16:49
        As for me, you are right. This is an equation with many unknowns. And many introductory ones.

        - Rights, say ... - And then why don’t I put a plus ???
        - As for Syria, her song is sung ... for a while ... - Obviously, Syria will break up into several impoverished limitrophied states dependent on neighbors ... - Maybe then, after 150 years ...- again will unite ... - What can you do if the Syrian people themselves do not want to fight in order to save themselves from bandits; nor rebuild destroyed cities; he doesn’t even want to pick up the “fishing rod” that Russia constantly pokes into his hands ... - Give him only fish ... - Such peoples do not live on their own for a long time ...
  6. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 February 2020 15: 54
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    Quote: gorenina91
    - Yes, yes, yes ... - "helps out" ... - Where does such calmness come from ... - And how will the militants get something "more serious" and they will start to shoot down ours ... - And then it will begin (as always) ... - Well, who would have thought that Ukraine delivered its Buki to the militants in Syria

    Easily. But we have hat-tidying moods. As before Russian-Japanese.
  7. 69 Offline
    69 29 February 2020 07: 49
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    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Not a damn thing really Russia in the current situation can

    Then the hysterical nervousness of some Zionists about the possibilities of Russia is not clear.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 February 2020 14: 45
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      Quote: 69P
      Quote: Bindyuzhnik
      Not a damn thing really Russia in the current situation can.

      Then the hysterical nervousness of some Zionists about the possibilities of Russia is not clear.

      England has no permanent enemies or friends. England has permanent interests. This saying applies to Russia, and Turkey, and to Israel. To any state.
      At present, the interests of Russia and Israel in BV, in particular, and other parts of the planet, if they do not coincide, then they do not contradict. Israel is interested in the weakening of Turkey and Iran in BV. Russia also would not refuse. Moreover, Turkey has recently been doing everything in its power for this. I, as a convinced Zionist and anti-Islamist, moreover, with two hands in favor. And no nervousness at the same time. Some positive emotions.