Without Russia: Americans will build a near-moon station on their own


The American project Deep Space Gateway, which implies the creation of a lunar station, will be fully funded from the US federal budget. This was announced on the eve of the representative of NASA, Brian Duhurst.


At least the budget for 2021 will include funds in the amount of $ 739 million for the creation of an electric motor and residential module, which will become the basis of the future station. In the future, NASA expects to develop the project as contracts are concluded with international partners, negotiations with which are ongoing today.

In general, according to Duhrest, the American authorities in 2021 offer to allocate 12,3 billion dollars to finance the Artemis program. The latter will consist of several stages: an unmanned flight of our satellite in 2020, manned - in 2022, and astronauts landing on the moon in 2024. Then, around the middle of the next decade, the Americans plan to send the first crew to Mars.

Recall that in 2017, NASA and Roscosmos signed a cooperation agreement in the framework of the Deep Space Gateway project. The role of Russia was to create a gateway module and support system. At the same time, the Americans insisted on using their of technologies.

As a result, our country left the project, refusing to participate in it on secondary roles. And later in RSC Energia offered concept direct flight to the moon, without using the Gateway station as an intermediate link.
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  1. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 11 February 2020 13: 53
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    I don’t see any fundamental differences between the ISS and the new station. The whole difference is that the new one will revolve around the moon, that is, the distance will increase. I see no practical meaning, unless mining is planned. Obviously, this is more a matter of prestige. Indirectly, this confirms funding from the state budget. Entrepreneurs are not going to invest yet? It seems that the time of the space race is returning. Who will accept the challenge? China. I believe India will also join, perhaps a “national team” will appear. Europe, for example, Japan, Israel. Since there are no signs of an inevitably impending rapid financing of the space industry in Russia on the horizon, it seems that the option of cooperation is also possible. Technology pull, huge costs for the sake of prestige is unlikely.
    Good luck to our overseas "partners" and all participants in the upcoming race in this difficult matter.
    True, the prize is not so attractive. Who can, will be the second landed on the moon. History remembers the first. For America, this is in the style of “let's make great again”, for Russia “we still could”? In my opinion, the incentive is so-so. In general, the "big pile of billions" from the Russian budget, most likely, will not be aimed at "increasing prestige".
  2. av58 Offline
    av58 (Andrei) 11 February 2020 14: 03
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    Do Americans want to build a near-moon station without Russia? Yes, any number! It is high time for the Americans to restrict access to our space technologies, and to make our “scientists” and “specialists” work, otherwise they’ve completely snickered and lost their scent.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 14: 11
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      av58 (Andrey) Perhaps you are right, but that’s not all, you have to decently increase funding.
      As a bonus, video for viewing on this topic, I recommend in the evening before going to bed, soothes ....
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      Unfortunately, there is nothing about our experience on the channel, apparently, the girl is a fan of Mask. winked
      1. av58 Offline
        av58 (Andrei) 11 February 2020 14: 29
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        Good video, only it would be for Rogozin. laughing
        In general, it is time for us to stop looking at the Americans and Chinese, and take up our own space program.
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    old friend (Vitali) 11 February 2020 15: 41
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    Well, considering who now controls the Russian Space Agency, then maybe it’s for the better. Would have drunk a bunch of dough, and even fines for terms and quality flew))
    Seriously, then 2 main meanings of this station:
    - the experience of creating such objects on remote planets (compared to the ISS, the difference is very large)
    “The moon is the closest source of raw materials to us.” If we talk about the delivery of raw materials from other planets in the future, then the first such base will be on the moon. Those. lunar station is the first step towards the creation and operation of a lunar base.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 45
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      Well, considering who is currently steering the Roskosmos, then maybe it’s for the better. Would have drunk a bunch of dough, and even fines for terms and quality flew))

      Apparently, you mean sawed?

      Seriously, then 2 main meanings of this station:
      - the experience of creating such objects on remote planets (compared to the ISS, the difference is very large)

      I don’t see any fundamental differences, we are talking about a near-moon station, and not a base on the moon. How is it different from the ISS?

      “The moon is the closest source of raw materials to us.” If we talk about the delivery of raw materials from other planets in the future, then the first such base will be on the moon. Those. lunar station - the first step towards the creation and operation of a lunar base

      Perhaps you are right, but so far it is unlikely that you need to be on the surface of the moon and not in orbit for mining.
      PS I understand that you did not like the video? I can offer more serious.

  4. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 11 February 2020 21: 12
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    Thanks to the USSR, Russia owns the most advanced space technologies. And without Russia, neither the United States nor China will succeed for another 15 years. If only Russia does not share these technologies or simply does not steal them, they will sell them. And the engines on the Chinese lunar rover are Russian! This year, the Americans threatened to deliver the crew to the ISS on their rockets. That's when they deliver and return back, then we will continue to "dream" !!
  5. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 13 February 2020 11: 47
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    Recall that in 2017, NASA and Roscosmos signed a cooperation agreement in the framework of the Deep Space Gateway project. The role of Russia was to create a gateway module and support system. At the same time, the Americans insisted on using their technology.

    I missed this nuance. recourse In essence, the modules docked to the ISS are just spaceships, the capacity of which contains various equipment. This is not a station yet, but only its segment. To combine them into the station, it is precisely the docking module and the support system that are needed. Largely for this reason, at one time, they agreed to the creation of the ISS; in the USSR, these technologies were worked out and worked even then. It turns out that the USA is still not going smoothly in this direction, they wanted Russia to not just manufacture it, but to “bring to mind” their technology.