Gazprom turns from a “national treasure” into a “national disaster”


The Russian gas monopoly from the "national heritage" is increasingly turning into a "national disaster." The miscalculations of the Gazprom management, for which the whole of Russia suffers financial and image losses, have long since become systemic. How much more will we pay for endless adventures of highly paid top managers of the state corporation?


In order not to be unfounded, we give a few facts. Back in 2009, the representative of the Norwegian giant Statoil Rune Bjarnson said:

We believe that shale gas could be the factor that will change all the rules of the game.

Despite this, the people who should formulate Gazprom’s long-term strategy continued to consider the “shale revolution” in the US a pyramid, a soap bubble, despite the fact that 10 years ago American industrialists had already bypassed Russia in terms of gas production. It was quite obvious that in the future its expansion in the form of LNG on the world market would begin.

In 2012, both Reported Vedomosti, in the leadership of the domestic monopolist, nevertheless began to gradually see clearly:

At first there were illusions that the shale boom is another soap bubble, and now our export volumes are being replaced by other gas. Our gas is one of the most expensive and inflexible. The system of long-term export contracts, which has been operating smoothly for decades, is becoming obsolete.

Did this mean that the state corporation began work on the diversification of its supplies, discovered LNG for itself? Not at all. The company at the expense of budget funds continued to build expensive pipelines to the delight of general contractors. The secret of the open door is that in many respects, for the sake of Gazprom’s interests, the Russophobic regime was maintained in Ukraine to continue exporting gas to Europe.

Propaganda continued to repeat the mantras that Europe was critically dependent on Russian pipeline gas supplies. At the same time, the fact that after a gas war of ten years ago was completely ignored, Europeans took large-scale measures to restructure their gas market: numerous LNG terminals were built along the coast, pipeline bridges were created between EU countries, allowing to transfer “blue fuel” as needed .

All this could end only with what ended. At the end of 2019, Gazprom signed a bonded transit agreement with Ukraine, about which we are in detail told earlier. Nord Stream 2 is another symbol of the incompetence of the leadership of the state corporation.

The gas pipeline with a pump was announced as an example of a "brilliant" strategy to bypass the Independent. At the same time, the European Commission and most EU countries were dancing to the tune of the United States. The result was logical. First, Denmark dragged for three years the issuance of a building permit. Then the EU adopted amendments to the Third Energy Package, which left Nord Stream-2 half empty. The final was the introduction of US sanctions against gas pipeline contractors. The Swiss company Allseas immediately quit work, and it turned out that there was simply no one to complete the last 5% of the pipeline.

One wonders why, under the conditions of Western sanctions, top managers of Gazprom relied exclusively on Western contractors, without even thinking about alternatives and fallback options.

Russia has only three vessels available that hypothetically can allow the completion of Nord Stream-2 on its own: Fortuna, Defender and Academician Chersky. But the first two are barges that are not equipped with a dynamic positioning system, which makes it impossible for them to work in Danish waters. Gazprom’s German partners are negotiating with Copenhagen about this, but so far without success.

Remains the "Academician Chersky", which was acquired in 2015. It should be noted that Russia simply does not have its own domestic-made vessels adapted for pipe laying, and since 2014 no one even raised a finger to begin their development and construction. "Academician" was in the Far East, where he was supposed to work on a project in the Chinese direction.

Next, we judge the “management effectiveness” at the pace with which the “national treasure” solves problems. Trump's sanctions against Nord Stream 2 became known on the night of December 21. Today in our yard is February 12th. On the eve it became known that the ship left the port of Nakhodka and headed to Singapore, where it was acquired. Apparently, there he will have to undergo re-equipment so that it can work on a new project for himself in the Baltic. It is known that Gazprom held a tender worth 900 million rubles for the purchase of specialized equipment.

After that, the vessel will be able to complete the gas pipeline, but will it be allowed to do so? For example, the United States can, through its channels, ensure that Academician Chersky will be deprived of insurance, and then they will be banned from insuring it. You can, of course, play games with the re-registration of companies, but the Americans also know a lot about them. Even if the Russian ship gets to the place, the Danes can stop its work there again and tighten the Danes, demanding to go through all the approval procedures again, which last took almost three years.

The most unfortunate thing is that this ordeal may not end there. Even if the Nord Stream-2 is completed at the cost of heroic efforts, the US has already announced sanctions against European buyers of Russian gas, as the German business publication Handelsblatt has directly pointed out, citing its sources in Washington.

This will be a complete fiasco. The bottom line is that only its general contractors will benefit from the activities of Gazprom. With this level of planning, Russia's loss of share in the gas market is almost a foregone conclusion. It is very significant that the authorities still have no complaints about the leadership of the state corporation.

Are there any alternatives to these endless costly adventures? Let us ask for a moment the question, where is our gas going to Europe? For example, in Germany, this environmentally friendly and relatively inexpensive fuel serves the interests of the Green Revolution. The question is, why not modernize our own energy sector and use the gas that the European Commission does not want to use for the needs of the population, increase the competitiveness of Russian industry and large-scale industrialization of the country by obtaining cheap electricity?

But no, such topics are not even the subject of discussion: the whole external policy Russia reduced to a primitive export of hydrocarbons for dollars for the benefit economics our direct competitors and potential opponents.
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 11 February 2020 13: 10
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    Back in 2009, the representative of the Norwegian giant Statoil Rune Bjarnson said: We believe that shale gas can be the factor that will change all the rules of the game.

    The shale revolution, which has been rumored for so long, finally happened! Hooray, comrades !!!! Or is it still not? request Excuse me, I will use your words. Shale gas "was announced with fanfare as an example of a" genius "strategy" to squeeze Russia out of the European gas market. Somehow 10 years have passed since that time, but things are still there. sad One may ask when the US will have free volumes of gas that can replace Russian? Are we modestly silent about the bankruptcy of the oil shale producers? winked Do they also take place within the framework of a brilliant American plan?

    The secret of the open door is that in many respects, for the sake of Gazprom’s interests, the Russophobic regime was maintained in Ukraine to continue exporting gas to Europe.

    Very interesting statement. Justification will be? Or so, assumptions, hints ....

    One wonders why, under the conditions of Western sanctions, top managers of Gazprom relied exclusively on Western contractors, without even thinking about alternatives and fallback options.

    Maybe it’s worth it for you, the rest already know that there are only a few companies suitable for this task. Alternatives, in fact, do not exist. This is not a taxi to order.

    After that, the vessel will be able to complete the gas pipeline, but will it be allowed to do so? For example, the United States can, through its channels, ensure that Academician Chersky will be deprived of insurance, and then they will be banned from insuring it. You can, of course, play games with the re-registration of companies, but the Americans also know a lot about them. Even if the Russian ship gets to the place, the Danes can stop its work there again and tighten the Danes, demanding to go through all the approval procedures again, which last took almost three years.

    And no one expects that everything will be easy and simple, after all, Latvia or Mozambique is opposed, we will follow the development of events. "Academician Chersky" left the port, so to speak, the first move was made, e2-e4. As for your approach, if you were striving for objectivity, you could also consider methods of counteraction, how Gazprom could circumvent such restrictions and, based on a comparison, suggest a possible development of events. But this, apparently, didn’t even occur to you. Bias is very noticeable.

    The most unfortunate thing is that this ordeal may not end there. Even if the Nord Stream-2 is completed at the cost of heroic efforts, the US has already announced sanctions against European buyers of Russian gas, as the German business publication Handelsblatt has directly pointed out, citing its sources in Washington.

    You can continue ... And if the Germans still buy Russian gas, then they will do it in disgust and, possibly, spit. smile So the paragraph will get a more complete and harmonious look.
    I noticed long ago that people who enthusiastically predict all misfortunes, disasters, failures for us, begin with the words "to my regret," "I have to report with deep sorrow," and so on. Probably. this tradition has developed. yes

    With this level of planning, Russia's loss of share in the gas market is almost a foregone conclusion.

    Excuse my curiosity, why? Isn't there enough transportation capacity without Nord Stream 2? Is there a real objective justification?

    It is very significant that the authorities still have no complaints about the leadership of the state corporation.

    And why should they appear? If you are guided by your logic, then you need to start with the military-industrial complex, as soon as Ukraine has stopped supplying engines, managers to prison, they say. why don’t you have your own? The Americans banned the sale of electronics for the space industry, to shoot Ragozin .. Well, how else? Why doesn't he have his own? request Did it ever occur to you that Gazprom is not a shipbuilding company? You can look at the "foreign experience". French Total after the imposition of sanctions has reduced cooperation with Novatek. I wonder if the author knows anything about the questions that have appeared to the Total leadership? Or such questions are simply obliged to appear in our "totalitarian Mordor", and in "enlightened Europe" such questions are not accepted?

    Let us ask for a moment the question, where is our gas going to Europe? For example, in Germany, this environmentally friendly and relatively inexpensive fuel serves the interests of the Green Revolution.

    You will probably be surprised, but our gas is also mainly used as fuel. We got a little excited about the "green revolution", if I'm not mistaken, Germany is second only to Poland in terms of coal production.

    The question is, why not modernize our own energy sector and use the gas that the European Commission does not respond to for the needs of the population, increasing the competitiveness of Russian industry and large-scale industrialization of the country by generating cheap electricity?

    Outright populist stupidity. If you think that the modernization of your own energy sector is hampered by the lack of gas, and the "backward" industry, due to the lack of gas, is forced to use coal and firewood, then this, to put it mildly, is not at all the case. The plans to reduce the price of electricity by redirecting gas from the external market to the internal one are simply provoking laughter. And, finally, if you go down from heaven to earth or stop smoking all sorts of nasty things, you can look at things soberly. Compare the volumes, are you going to ship about a third of EU consumption to the domestic market? Are you sure you need so much? As for the proposal to send export gas to the population, it sounds something like "distribute money to pensioners." The volumes and directions of activity are incomparable. It's like if the editorial board suddenly refused to publish your articles and some friend said in consolation: It doesn't matter Sergei, you can print your articles on a printer and deliver them to mailboxes, and also distribute them to grandmothers in the villages, because they are so lonely and not enough fresh information. winked
  2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2020 13: 26
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    Quote: 123
    It doesn’t matter, Sergey, you can print your articles on a printer and distribute them in the mailboxes, and even distribute them to your grandmothers in the villages, because they are so lonely and lack fresh information.

    I didn’t notice when we switched to you? I won’t even comment on your demagogy because of the meaninglessness. Readers - people are not stupid, they will figure it out themselves. hi
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 15: 28
      +2
      I didn’t notice when we switched to you?

      If this has hurt you so much, I apologize for the proposal that was not correctly formed with punctuation marks. hi

      I won’t even comment on your demagogy because of the meaninglessness.

      I can not promise the same, I will be your nonsense. yes

      Readers - people are not stupid, they will figure it out themselves.

      Quite right. It is enough to objectively state the essence of the problem, facts, arguments "for" and "against" and possible development of events. And the readers will figure it out. hi
  3. T. Henks Offline T. Henks
    T. Henks (Igor) 11 February 2020 13: 27
    +4
    Comment is longer than article. Strange affair. Maybe it's better to write an article? Indeed, much was written about the shale revolution then. Basically, according to the pattern: all lies, littering nature, poisonous water, not water from the tap, but kerosene, etc. There was an analytical article in the Promotional News that was getting out of this trend. It seems that the shale revolution is developing along it. And Gazprom is Gazprom. There are more Ukrainians than people. Why would they fight against relatives?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 15: 45
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      T. Henks (Igor)
      If you meant me (there are no other long comments yet), then to write an article you need to have information in order to convey something new to the reader, and not just retell the well-known facts and "suck the sensation out of the finger" of the meaning. Besides, I do not consider myself a journalist, I do not think that anything can come of it. In general, I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur. And the commentary is not difficult, I read and wrote what in your opinion was stated incorrectly, the inconsistency of the facts with reality, etc. It's much easier than writing articles.
      As far as the "Shale Revolution" is concerned, not everything is so wonderful there, more than 10 years have passed and so far I do not see the volume of free gas in the United States comparable to Gazprom. Show me facts, figures, calculations, terminals, gas carriers. Well, at least something other than blind faith. After evaluating, I may agree with a different opinion. As for Gazprom, I do not defend it, and I do not consider it genius strategists, but also complete idiots. I am just comparing the information available. hi
  4. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2020 13: 47
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    Quote: T. Henks
    Comment is longer than article. Strange affair. Maybe it's better to write an article? Indeed, much was written about the shale revolution then. Basically according to the pattern: all lies, littering nature, poisonous water, not tap water but kerosene from the tap, etc. There was an analytical article in the Promotional News that was getting out of this trend. It seems that the shale revolution is developing along it. And Gazprom is Gazprom. There Ukrainians more than people. Why would they fight against relatives?

    At the "guardians" it just breaks .... with a hint that it is possible to move away from the raw material model with permanent contractors of state construction projects to industrialization. Therefore, all the methods of demagoguery are used, with the substitution of concepts, rhetorical questions, falling asleep with numbers and the transition to personalities. Otherwise it is impossible to disavow what is written. smile
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 15: 55
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      At the "guardians" it simply breaks .... us at a hint that it is possible to move away from the raw material model with permanent contractors of state construction projects to industrialization. Therefore, all the methods of demagoguery are used with the substitution of concepts, rhetorical questions, falling asleep with numbers and the transition to personalities. Otherwise it is impossible to disavow what is written.

      As I understand it, instead of constructive dialogue, prefer to hang up labels and ascribe an imaginary point of view? Well, yes, what else remains, if there is essentially nothing to object, it remains to declare everything demagogy.
      If you think that redirecting gas from the European market to the domestic one will lead to industrialization and a departure from the raw material orientation of the economy, then you are deeply mistaken. This is reasoning at the level of third graders.
  5. colyanpirogov Offline colyanpirogov
    colyanpirogov (Nikolai Pirogov) 11 February 2020 14: 22
    +1
    Marzhetsky again suffered ... Can no longer stop! laughing
    It works according to the principle - I write nonsense, but they read it, so I will continue to write ... wassat
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 February 2020 14: 44
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      And why are you reading it, if this is nonsense, or maybe you just can’t accept that he’s right, but the defective Gazprom managers, with his patron, in full trust or not, I forgot, this is a brilliant HPP.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 07
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        And why are you reading it, if this is nonsense, or maybe you just can’t accept that he’s right, but the defective Gazprom managers, together with his patron, in full trust or not, I forgot, this is a brilliant HPP

        Apparently, articles are published for reading here. Sorry, the comment was not addressed to me, hi could not resist, decided to clarify what exactly is correctness and what facts it is confirmed? Or are you another ally and adherent of "blind faith"?
        1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 February 2020 17: 17
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          I forgive, but I think that the adherent of this Faith is you.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 11 February 2020 17: 31
            +1
            I forgive, but I think that the adherent of this Faith is you.

            Thank you for confirming my assumption, just a classic. laughing Typical behavior, call and get away from the conversation, in fact. smile
            1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
              rotkiv04 (Victor) 11 February 2020 19: 43
              -3
              So you first began to hang up labels, and talk with adherents of Gazprom only time to lose.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 11 February 2020 20: 05
                +1
                So you first began to hang up labels, and talk with adherents of Gazprom only time to lose

                Why so? I asked with what in fact agree, with what not. In fact, I did not hear a word from you. Do you have your own opinion on these issues, but on the basis of what has it developed?
                Does it contain an assessment of facts and events? As I understand it, no. You simply believed the author without any critical reflection on what you read. And the recognition of something true, regardless of factual or logical justification, is called faith. hi
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 02
      -1
      Marzhetsky again suffered ... Can no longer stop!
      It works according to the principle - I write nonsense, but they read it, so I will continue to write.

      You managed to express the same idea much more concisely. hi
    3. yury semru Offline yury semru
      yury semru (yury semru) 12 February 2020 14: 11
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      And I saw the title and realized that it was our "optimist". Therefore, I did not read.
  6. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 11 February 2020 14: 50
    +6
    Fiddling top managers of Gazprom have long ceased to strain their brains, swam with money, do not give a damn about work. What will happen - and figs with him. The king is patient, loafers who faithfully look into his eyes, spoiling the country, he loves more than those who work and tell the truth. Miller would be kicked out of office in any country, but, apparently, he is extremely valuable to the Kremlin. And the people will pay the sea of ​​losses.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 12
      -6
      Fiddling top managers of Gazprom have long ceased to strain their brains, swam with money, do not give a damn about work. What will happen, and figs with him. The king is patient, loafers who faithfully look into his eyes, spoiling the country, he loves more than those who work and tell the truth. Miller would be kicked out of office in any country, but, apparently, he is extremely valuable to the Kremlin. And the people will pay the sea of ​​losses.

      You can, as an exception, stop talking with slogans and go to the specifics, for example, and name those

      who work and tell the truth
      1. bobba94 Offline bobba94
        bobba94 (Vladimir) 11 February 2020 22: 04
        +5
        About the specifics. Classmate, a very smart woman, got a job in the jur. department of this glorious company GP. Not to the head office in Moscow, but to a branch in the Far East. She said about the salary that it’s scary to even call. She worked for an incomplete year and quit. To my question - why, she answered that out of 8 employees There were only two specialists and department, the rest were children, nephews, lovers and mistresses, ..... that is, two people pulled all the work. She often visited the Sakhalin shelf holding, there are Americans, Canadians, Indians, French ..... such an international, she saw what kind of relations there, the level of specialists, could compare and evaluate. She said frankly that it was just a shame to work in Gazprom, even for a lot of money.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 11 February 2020 22: 52
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          To my question - why, she answered that out of 8 employees There were only two specialists and department, the rest were children, nephews, lovers and mistresses, ..... that is, two people pulled all the work.

          You, you know, were not surprised, this had to be observed more than once and not only in commercial companies, but also in state-owned companies. institutions. Well, not to say that it’s direct totally and on such a scale. I thought you would tell about people claiming to be top managers and trying to restore order with an iron hand, and they shamelessly spread rot. In general, we got some misunderstanding. hi You know, well, Miller will be removed, another will appear the same. What will change from this? Whoever kills a dragon becomes a dragon himself. I am not sure that the "Tsar" will be engaged in establishing order and justice in each individual office. With this approach, life is not enough. The company works, profits are received, shareholders are satisfied, who will dig there, to deal with the pedigree and competence of the employee? We live somehow.
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 12 February 2020 06: 35
            +1
            For some details, I’ve already started to put things in order, look who is now responsible for the gas from the vice, everything is not easy there, but his previous actions say that this uncle can and says what he really is - yes, he doesn’t tell us, but you have to start somewhere ...
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 12 February 2020 07: 48
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              For some details, I’ve already started to put things in order, look who is now responsible for the gas from the vice, everything is not easy there, but his previous actions say that this uncle can and says what he really is - yes, he doesn’t tell us, but you have to start somewhere ...

              Putting things in order is a good thing, let's wait and see.
          2. kriten Offline kriten
            kriten (Vladimir) 14 February 2020 11: 18
            +1
            Dragons need to be changed more often. The father of nations said that cadres decide everything. And when they after a long boss turn into g ... they become pests, and some become enemies of the people.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 14 February 2020 11: 24
              +2
              Dragons need to be changed more often. The father of nations said that cadres decide everything. And when they after a long boss turn into g ..., they become pests. And some are enemies of the people.

              The recipe is not universal, too often changing is also not an option, it will only get into business and here is a magical pendell. It’s not an easy task to pick up good staff; you often have to grow them.
  7. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 11 February 2020 14: 53
    -2
    A well-written analytical article. There are "hooks" that, if desired, you can catch, but the main thing is that the essence is illuminated correctly. And for "123" - criticism and criticism - these are fundamentally opposite concepts.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 17
      +2
      A well-written analytical article. There are "hooks" that, if desired, you can catch, but the main thing is that the essence is illuminated correctly. And for "123" - criticism and criticism - these are fundamentally opposite concepts.

      We have different opinions about this article, this is normal. Each has its own point of view, in the end, it is just a subjective assessment, as well as the definition of the line between criticism and criticism. hi But these are all general words, so to speak talk about the weather. Specifically indicate in what its "normality", "hooks" and "essence" is expressed - briefly, will it not bother you?
  8. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 11 February 2020 15: 25
    +7
    The question is, why not modernize our own energy sector and use the gas that the European Commission does not respond to for the needs of the population, increasing the competitiveness of Russian industry and large-scale industrialization of the country by generating cheap electricity?

    In fact, everything is "even funnier" - Gazprom sells gas to Germany in 2020 at a price of $ 120 per 1000 cubic meters, and in Russia itself supplies it to the regions (Attention!) At prices of 8200-8600 rubles per 1000 cubic meters. That is, if we translate the Russian gas price into dollars, it turns out that it is supplied in the country itself either at the same price as in Germany, or even more expensive!
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 24
      -3
      You will not be bothered to indicate the source of information? Let's see, count, compare.
      1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 11 February 2020 16: 25
        +2
        And to type in in the search engine, anyway?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 11 February 2020 16: 57
          0
          Why, how else. smile He scored, I didn’t get gas at 8600, that's why he wrote. In addition, I wanted to clarify what prices in Germany mean, perhaps, a short-term reduction in prices to a minimum? By the summer, they generally forecast a fall to $ 100. At the same time, the average price for 2019 is 180 bourgeois money.
          1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 12 February 2020 10: 02
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            And see here?

            https://energybase.ru/

            Here, for example, the tariff in the city of Zhirnovsk, Volgograd region

            https://energybase.ru/tariff/djirnovsk?TariffSearch[type_id]=gas

            In addition, you can multiply the tariff with your housing and communal services, it is listed there for 1 cubic meter per 1000 and you will get the cost for 1000 cubic meters. I saw 9,6 rubles per cubic meter.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 12 February 2020 17: 15
              +2
              Thanks. I looked, I sympathize with the residents of the Volgograd region. I have written 6 rubles per thousand cubes (Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug), by the way, on the same site there are 222,12 rubles. recourse

              https://energybase.ru/tariff/hanty-mansijskij-avtonomnyj-okrug-yugra?TariffSearch%5Btype_id%5D=2

              Apparently, it turns out, yes, if for $ 120, it turns out that gas is now sold to Germany more expensive than the residents of the Volgograd region. How the price is formed, I do not know, in neighboring Elista gas costs 4 rubles.
              As for Germany, I think there is an explanation for this, the price is formed depending on the price of oil, plus seasonal fluctuations, market oversaturation. I believe this is temporary. Gazprom is a commercial company; it supplies gas to Germany under long-term contracts, even if at the moment it is not so profitable. Domestic prices are not tied to world prices. It is strange to expect an automatic decline depending on market prices in Germany. After all, if the price in Europe rises, then should we also expect an increase? As for "fairness", the population in Germany receives gas at a slightly different price: 2019 - 45 rubles. per cubic meter

              http://svspb.net/novosti/stoimosti-gaza/

              2018 - 41,5 rubles. per cube

              https://riarating.ru/infografika/20180619/630097031.html

              The average price in Russia is about 6 rubles. per cube
              In total, I feel sorry for the residents of Volgograd and others who have a higher price, what explains this - I probably do not know the peculiarities of logistics, but I do not see a real reason for panic. If we compare the prices, it does not seem to me that Gazprom is fighting three skins for gas (I am considering the connection tariffs).
  9. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2020 17: 57
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    Quote: 123
    I can not promise the same, I will be your nonsense

    I understand that this is your job smile
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 18: 39
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      I understand that this is your job

      They usually pay money for work, where can I apply for a salary? As for you, it is noticeable that this is just a hobby, it does not smell like professionalism. No. Not a single concrete objection to the facts, everything is still the labels of the prosecution. I hope you don’t start spitting. repeat
  10. Vladimir Mescherikov (Vladimir Mescherikov) 11 February 2020 18: 31
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    Employees of Gazprom are still in socialism with traditions and morals, the worst thing is to be outside Gazprom, as to another planet. We are ready to crawl and grovel in front of their superiors and do everything possible and impossible, just not to lose their job and the pension of a Gazprom employee, which is assigned for seniority, like a second pension, except for the all-Russian one. It's easy to hide with such a team! Huge waste on soap bubbles and unprofitable LNG production, transportation losses that no one can count, explain, or exclude, except on paper. The national treasure is appropriated by a handful of officials and squandered for any waste prices, only to snatch profit here and now: and then even a flood. The highest ranks know for sure that they will be forgiven for the "face of foreign policy". If only the "face" was changed or transferred to another more pleasant and intelligent person .. Theft goes for millions, and in the reports the performers are strangled for every penny: no one wants to be a partner or enter into a contractual relationship, because the impudent accountants first demand the signing of an act on the performance of work by the contractor for Gazprom, and only a quarter later, or even at the end of the year, will they pay in order to realize the "washed-out" funds. A dirty kitchen has nothing that could honestly and in detail develop and technically strengthen the structure of Gazprom, because the state is swollen to an incredible size of a crowd of idlers and relatives who are considered "necessary" who are not responsible for anything and practically do nothing, BUT they portray that vigorous activity. If reduced, then it is those who work and never "their lured". There is no one to really work on the pipe: the youth is mowing "eye and eye" at every step, only we are dodging a big trouble - the dropouts are overcome by stupidity and incompetence. Unprofitableness is covered by papers and fake reports: you can't write the truth, they'll be fired. The employees know all this and they will be silent, "keep forever" .. In the "other state" all idlers would be dispersed and subordinated to the Army and the Navy - we have no other allies !.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 18: 45
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      Vladimir Mescherikov
      Not bad for a debut.good incendiary. I think there is a fair amount of truth in your words. I suppose you had to deal directly with this organization? laughing
      However, such things are common to many companies.
    2. Provincial_71 Offline Provincial_71
      Provincial_71 (Yuri) 11 February 2020 20: 42
      +5
      Written from the heart. Everything was so, and probably is. I myself have worked on the pipe for 11 years, already 6 years in retirement, "cooled down" during this time, but now I read the commentary of Vladimir Meshcherikov, and the feeling is as if it was removed from the tongue ...
  11. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 11 February 2020 19: 52
    -2
    - I put pluses to the author of the article - for the article and comments ... - But I also put minuses - a certain "figure" broadcasting absolutely abundantly, unprincipled and stupid ...
    - But nonetheless, about all this:

    Gazprom turns from a “national treasure” into a “national disaster”

    Personally, I’ve been writing for a whole year ... - and this topic I’m just tired of ... aaaaa ....
    - It is very commendable that others have taken my side of this topic ... - better late than never ...
    - But the "Gazprom theme" today is yesterday ...
    - Gazprom is such a mediocre creature that the further it continues its activities, the more unsuccessful its business is ... - Until, finally, Gazprom out of the blue stumbled over SP-2 at all ..
    - The same thing needs to happen - some land Switzerland has pipe layers along the bottom of the Baltic Sea; but Switzerland no longer wants to deal with Gazprom ... - And Gazprom does not know how to lay its pipes further ... - Everything would have looked like a joke if it hadn’t been so sad ...
    - But the final of Gazprom will be even sadder ... - it will simply run away, and then it will not be possible to find the ends ... - But anyway - the Gazprom theme has been exhausted ...
    - But the new swindler NOVATEK began to gain momentum ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 20: 09
      0
      - I put pluses to the author of the article - for the article and comments ... - But I also put minuses - some "figure" broadcasting absolutely abundantly, unprincipled and stupid ...

      Ma'am, a similar assessment from your lips sounds to me like a compliment ... hi
  12. Vkd dvk Offline Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 11 February 2020 20: 28
    0
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Quote: 123
    It doesn’t matter, Sergey, you can print your articles on a printer and distribute them in the mailboxes, and even distribute them to your grandmothers in the villages, because they are so lonely and lack fresh information.

    I didn’t notice when we switched to you? I won’t even comment on your demagogy because of the meaninglessness. Readers - people are not stupid, they will figure it out themselves. hi

    I am convinced that the appeal to YOU ​​must be earned. To respect a priori a stump sticking out in the way is stupid by definition. And talking to the closet, starting with the words - "Dear respected closet" ... more refers to the conversation in a home for the mentally ill.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 23: 01
      +2
      In this case, the point is not entirely in this, just a nervous reaction to the comment. There is an attempt to translate the discussion into the plane of clarifying relations with a claim for a response. However, the thought about the stump is correct. hi
  13. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 February 2020 22: 11
    +1
    As much as you need, you will / will pay as much.
    Slowly, step by step, the nuts are wrapped and the pockets are turned out. Capitalism is moving towards a higher form. Remember which one?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 11 February 2020 23: 02
      +1
      Imperialism. hi
  14. orlauskas.v Offline orlauskas.v
    orlauskas.v (Valdemaras Orlauskas) 12 February 2020 01: 19
    +4
    It would be worth adding that the Russian consumer pays losses from US sanctions - Crimeans complain that the price of heating has increased and the price of gas has increased by one and a half times, I have no information about other regions of Russia. It’s time to send Miller on vacation - it becomes unprofitable.
  15. gore Offline gore
    gore (Alexander) 12 February 2020 06: 33
    -1
    I don’t understand why the author of the article reacted this way to comment 123? The commentary indicates the main thing - the commandment is violated in the article - "Everything is cognized in comparison". Unfortunately, this is not in the article ...
  16. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 February 2020 07: 02
    +1
    Quote: 123
    I understand that this is your job

    They usually pay money for work, where can I apply for a salary? As for you, it is noticeable that this is just a hobby, it does not smell like professionalism. No. Not a single concrete objection to the facts, everything is still the labels of the prosecution. I hope you don’t start spitting. repeat

    Well, pure demagogy. I set out my position in the article.
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  19. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 12 February 2020 07: 45
    +4
    Quote: gore
    I don’t understand why the author of the article reacted this way to comment 123? The commentary indicates the main thing - the commandment is violated in the article - "Everything is cognized in comparison". Unfortunately, this is not in the article ...

    And what is not clear to you in my reaction? 123 allowed themselves to go to you, to which I made a remark. That's all. With whom or what I had to compare the jambs of the Gazprom leadership, I don’t know, I can’t even imagine such jambs.
    As for the rest: I set out my position in an article of over 5 thousand characters. 123 I do not agree with my vision, but it is his right. I know that I can’t convince him, and he can’t convince me. So what is the point of arranging an analysis of this demagogy, which is written in his gigantic commentary? This is a professional demagogy with a substitution of concepts and other tricks. To this I will kill half a day with zero result.
    Sorry, my time is worth the money, I have to deal with several things in parallel. I don’t have a task to convince the reader of 123, thank God, I don’t have an obligation to paint an answer to each of his multi-page comments.
    The main thing is readers: they got the opportunity to evaluate different opinions and make up their own. The audience on the Reporter is very good, these are smart adults who themselves perfectly understand everything. Based on their comments, you can get an idea about this.
    This is my position. hi
  20. T. Henks Offline T. Henks
    T. Henks (Igor) 12 February 2020 10: 36
    0
    Regarding the price of gas for the population. Unfortunately, I can’t insert a photo here. Does not work. But here's the tariff per cubic meter:
    The bill for January is five rubles and thirteen kopecks. This is the rate for homes with gas heating.
    Seven rubles forty eight kopecks for a house with central heating.
  21. NordUral Offline NordUral
    NordUral (Eugene) 12 February 2020 14: 00
    +3
    This "property" from its first day was our misfortune, like the whole gang that stole the country from the people.
  22. Sergey Brekotin Offline Sergey Brekotin
    Sergey Brekotin (Sergey Brekotin) 13 February 2020 00: 29
    -1
    Enchanting nonsense.
  23. race Offline race
    race (Yaroslav) 14 February 2020 22: 57
    +1
    For example, in Germany it is environmentally friendly ...

    Well, you already have enough! Of course, methane is cleaner than fuel oil and especially coal, but it cannot be called environmentally friendly - when it is burned, carbon dioxide is formed, which is generally considered to be greenhouse.

    The question is, why not modernize our own energy sector and use the gas that the European Commission does not respond to for the needs of the population, increasing the competitiveness of Russian industry and large-scale industrialization of the country by generating cheap electricity?

    And what, in Russia there is a shortage of gas in the domestic market? Or do most power plants still operate on coal? I doubt something very much. And I know for sure that Russia is actively building new industries, the raw material for which is natural gas. For example, this is the production of ammonia, methanol, etc. This is what can actually be done to mass transport vehicles to gas fuel. But work in this direction is going on, maybe not as fast as we would like, but still it is going on.
  24. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 February 2020 13: 29
    +2
    Quote: Rasen
    And what, in Russia there is a shortage of gas in the domestic market? Or do most power plants still operate on coal?

    This is not a shortage, but the modernization of energy and the use of gas for the industrialization of their country. Do not replace the concept.
    1. the RASS Offline the RASS
      the RASS (Yaroslav C) 21 February 2020 21: 55
      +1
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      This is not a shortage, but the modernization of energy and the use of gas for the industrialization of their country. Do not replace the concept.

      Wait, you yourself wrote in the article:

      The question is, why not modernize our own energy sector and use gas, which the European Commission does not

      Therefore, I asked you:

      due to the fact that such large deliveries of gas to Europe are carried out, is Russia lacking gas for its own industry and energy?

      Personally, I understood your phrase in the article that way.
      And, Sergey, please read my message to the end:

      I know for sure that new industries are actively being built in Russia, the raw material for which is natural gas. For example, this is the production of ammonia, methanol, etc.

      I will add: at the same time, existing production facilities are being modernized. And what concepts did I replace?
      I do not know how things are in the Russian energy sector (not my field), but what can I tell you, Sergey, that the modernization of the energy sector (meaning gas power plants) will really happen only when natural gas in Russia becomes a relatively expensive fuel. Only in this case will modernization become a necessity. In the meantime, your gas costs $ 70 / thousand. cube m - it is economically disadvantageous. And why, if everything is so wonderful - gas is cheap, profitability is high. Why do something?
      And yet, Sergey, you used a phrase from my comment, answered it, that is, you actually answered my comment. So? But then why did you post your answer as a comment on the article? How do I know if someone answered me or not - I didn’t receive a notification of the answer. Someone who, but you should know how to use the site interface.
  25. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 February 2020 13: 32
    +1
    Quote: 123
    They usually pay money for work, where can I apply for a salary? As for you, it is noticeable that this is just a hobby, it does not smell like professionalism.

    I have two higher educations: legal and journalistic, work experience in a specialized state. and mun. service. To date, 1 articles have been published here on the Reporter, plus about a hundred under pseudonyms elsewhere.
    And who are you to judge the level of my professionalism or its absence?