After the visit of Pompeo in the south of Kazakhstan, clashes began


Recently сообщалосьas the head of the US State Department, Mike Pompeo, traveled to the post-Soviet countries because of their "proximity" to Russia. He visited Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, where he spoke about "peace, security and prosperity." By a strange coincidence, some time after Pompeo left on February 8, 2020, clashes began to occur in the south of Kazakhstan, as a result of which people were injured and died.


It should be noted that this time the authorities of Kazakhstan provide information in a dosed manner. Previously, when religious violence erupted in Kazakhstan, the country's authorities were not shy and called the structures that stand behind the representatives of radical Islam, who have committed atrocities on the streets of Kazakh cities. This indicates that this time the conflict is interethnic in nature, which, of course, is very unpleasant for local authorities.

So, according to the Minister of Information and Social Development of Kazakhstan, Dauren Abayev, at night on February 8, 2020, a group fight broke out in the south of the country. This happened on the outskirts of the village of Masanchi, Zhambyl region, not far from the Kazakh-Kyrgyz border. Initially, 70 people took part in it, a little later another 300 pulled themselves together. As a result, 8 corpses and 40 injured. Emergency mode in the region was not introduced.

According to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan, Yerlan Turgumbayev, 47 participants were detained and two hunting rifles confiscated. The police tried to prevent “clarification of relations”, after which aggressive young men turned their attention to law enforcement officers. They began to shoot at the police and set fire to dozens of buildings and cars. Investigative actions are being carried out now and trying to find out "who is to blame and why this happened." It is possible that the number of victims will increase.


It should be added that in these parts long-standing hostile relations exist between Kazakhs and Kyrgyz. For centuries, they have been figuring out the relations of the “titularity of the nation” and other “fraternal frictions”. Moreover, this issue has its roots in hoary antiquity. So, in fact, provocateurs could have appeared there that helped the fight grow into a battle with interethnic subtext.


It must be recalled that exactly three years ago, in February 2016, something similar was already happening in the south of Kazakhstan. Then an ethnic conflict arose in the village of Buryl, located 15 kilometers from the city of Taraz, Dzhambul region. It all started with the fact that a 15-year-old “Turk” teenager inflicted 11 stab wounds to a 5-year-old Kazakh boy who died. After this, pogroms began.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 8 February 2020 17: 42
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    Three years ago, too, was Pompeo to blame? Or did the State Department put an eleven-year-old Turk in his hand? Now what has become the catalyst for the slaughter? Pompeo? Also a messenger of the apocalypse to me. laughing The powers that be themselves need to predict nat. conflicts. And to work ahead of the curve. And I don’t think of any garbage about Pompeo.
    1. Sapsan136 Offline
      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 8 February 2020 18: 03
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      There the authorities are always silent and will remain silent, as they were silent during the pogroms and robberies on ethnic grounds in the 90s! Even Lukashenko said that the main thing for them is independence, and all independence of the countries of the former USSR is built on Russophobia! These bandits even seized apartments of my friends in Alma-Ata and none of the local authorities raised a finger in order to protect representatives of a non-titular nation (as they say) from the arbitrariness of local Natsiks (Basmachis and Bais).
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 8 February 2020 23: 43
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      No, he brought an advance, and the Papuans joyfully rushed to do the work. After all, Biden also looked at Maidan. And immediately there was a shooting. One is a case, two is a coincidence, three is a pattern.
    3. businessv Offline
      businessv (Vadim) 9 February 2020 21: 48
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      Quote: Observer2014
      Now what has become the catalyst for the slaughter? Pompeo?

      He is not a catalyst, but a resource provider. Cash American rubles have always been used in cases where you need to shake things up, they cost exactly as much as the resources spent to print them, but they allow you to manipulate entire countries. And where is the guarantee that Pompey did not fit cash to stimulate the people they bought long ago?
  2. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 8 February 2020 17: 59
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    Among my acquaintances there are two families of Russian refugees from Alma-Ata, so I’m not surprised by the behavior of the Basmachis, it’s not the first time they have organized pogroms on ethnic and religious grounds! It's time to treat them in Russia the same way they treat ours there ... only a residence permit, no benefits, increased taxes from them and no citizenship! It’s time to change the Citizenship Law in the Russian Federation, modeled on Saudi Arabia!
    1. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 8 February 2020 19: 05
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      It's time to treat them in Russia the same way they relate to ours ...

      - Yes, it’s high time ... - Personally, I am for the “nationality” column to be added to the passport of Russia again and “religion” added ... - to which denomination I belong (and the items “believer” or “unbeliever” and etc.) ....
      - Why did they suddenly remove "nationality" from the Russian passport ... - who even voted for it ???
      - That's when the data on the "population growth" in Russia will be brought to our guarantor, then he will probably clutch his head when he finds out who this "population growth" in Russia provides ... - or he will not grab it ... - which he the thing is ...
      - As for Kazakhstan, personally, I have written many times about the Kazakhs and in some detail ...
      - Many Russians live too far in Russia, in the European part ... - and have no idea about these people ...
      - Here they write about the oppression of Russians in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia (and even in the same Ukraine) ... - But there, at least the Russians go out to some demonstrations, hold rallies; the Russians there have some kind of protest bodies ... print, TV appearances, some meetings and discussions ...
      - And as for Kazakhstan ... did anyone even hear about the Russians in Kazakhstan, so that they would be "dissatisfied" with something ... - there the Russians just sit like mice and are even afraid to utter a squeak ... - and what kind of or rallies, demonstrations, protests or criticisms of local nationals and national authorities by the Russians - there can be no question ... - they can easily take their lives ... - and no one will even investigate ... -Such here you go ...
      - So, even in Omsk, today, Kazakhs behave very aggressively ... - and the local authorities indulge this ... - For about 20 years, Governor Polezhaev L.K. (probably half Kazakh himself), a native of Kazakhstan, ruled in the Omsk region ... - So he over the past 20 years so Omsk region plowed, which is scary to say ...
      - It was replaced, but today the Kazakh lobby has remained at key posts and is in charge of everything in Omsk ... - And as Omsk has languished ... - it continues to languish ... - Russian youth flees from Omsk, and the Kazakhs remain (and what is their birth rate ... - it's just a "geometric progression") ...
      -This is the case ...
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 8 February 2020 20: 45
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        You won’t pick it up, they’ll just kill it ... and the local police will not notice it ... The only option is the armed struggle, like the LPR, or the Crimean version, for the territories of Russia occupied by russophobia sufferers of self-assailants ...
        1. gorenina91 Offline
          gorenina91 (Irina) 9 February 2020 07: 13
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          - Yes ... - they will kill; property will be looted, and then some local will simply appropriate housing ... - And ends in the water ... - Such an Apartheid against Russians (and even against Russian-speaking Europeans) reigns in Kazakhstan from the very beginning of the collapse of the USSR .. .
          - And our guarantor easily meets the "great Nazarbayev"; smiling, talking about the friendship of peoples, "indestructible brotherhood", etc ...
      2. businessv Offline
        businessv (Vadim) 9 February 2020 21: 58
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        Quote: gorenina91
        It was replaced, but today the Kazakh lobby has remained at key posts and is in charge of everything in Omsk ...

        I think that over time they will restore order there too, but for this it is necessary to create conditions and correctly configure public opinion. Already in Omsk, it will not be difficult for people to go to the rally, if necessary.
    2. businessv Offline
      businessv (Vadim) 9 February 2020 21: 51
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      Quote: Sapsan136
      It’s time to change the Citizenship Law in the Russian Federation, modeled on Saudi Arabia!

      This will be possible only when we get closer to the country you mentioned in terms of living!
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 9 February 2020 22: 17
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        And in order to get closer to Saudi Arabia in terms of living, Russia needs a government, like in Saudi Arabia, which will protect the national interests of the indigenous population of Russia ...
        1. businessv Offline
          businessv (Vadim) 10 February 2020 00: 12
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          Quote: Sapsan136
          Russia needs a government, as in Saudi Arabia, which will protect the national interests of the indigenous population of Russia ...

          Well, we got to the bottom of the question! good
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    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 February 2020 19: 01
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    And in Thailand, a soldier fired, and in the Vatican Zelensky met with the pope, while Spartak defeated the Partizan and won the Parimatch Premier Cup. What else happened at this time?
    1. businessv Offline
      businessv (Vadim) 9 February 2020 21: 51
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      Quote: Arkharov
      What else happened at this time?

      This is a news feed, colleague!
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 February 2020 11: 27
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        businessv
        How does Pompeo manage everywhere? So many different events have happened everywhere !!
  4. Rus Offline
    Rus 9 February 2020 08: 58
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    And what are you laughing at, in our Penza region there was a conflict with the gypsies! So the governor officially declared that it was because of a hillock! Everything will be to blame for us, even aliens, but not the people who are responsible for this! It is power!
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) 9 February 2020 19: 30
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Three years ago, too, was Pompeo to blame? Or did the State Department put an eleven-year-old Turk in his hand? Now what has become the catalyst for the slaughter? Pompeo? Also a messenger of the apocalypse to me. laughing The powers that be themselves need to predict nat. conflicts. And to work ahead of the curve. And I don’t think of any garbage about Pompeo.

    Interethnic enmity has always been fomented from there. What ... you protect this hog, who came to make is not the world.
  6. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 9 February 2020 19: 33
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    Quote: Rus
    And what are you laughing at, in our Penza region there was a conflict with the gypsies! So the governor officially declared that it was because of a hillock! Everything will be to blame for us, even aliens, but not the people who are responsible for this! It is power!

    Where does the drug come from, traded by these bastards from the gypsy village in Chemodanovka? Perhaps the governor is bringing this to Penza?
  7. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 9 February 2020 19: 37
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    Quote: Arkharov
    And in Thailand, a soldier fired, and in the Vatican Zelensky met with the pope, while Spartak defeated the Partizan and won the Parimatch Premier Cup. What else happened at this time?

    Someone Arkharov wrote another ....
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 February 2020 11: 29
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      Vkd dvk
      Another “what”? And why not pull Pompeo to all these events?
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    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 10 February 2020 10: 38
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    Informational, informative article. Not entirely clear, though, what does Pompeo have to do with it? In addition, the author mentioned three more countries where this politician visited before visiting Kazakhstan. And after his departure, no clashes were observed. Apparently, the title is for advertising. But the question of relations between Kazakhs and Kyrgyz is very interesting. We do not find the Kazakh nationality in identifying the inhabitants of this region after the 1917 revolution. The living ethnos in the territory of modern Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan was called "Kaysakh Kyrgyz." It seems that we are talking about the same people with their subethnos. Like, say, about Ukrainians, Russians and Belarusians. One language, one culture, one history and territory of residence. Or Chechens and Ingush. Interethnic conflicts in such an environment are not uncommon. What happened is still more reminiscent of an interethnic conflict on a domestic basis, rather than at the state level. But there are reasons for concern. Kazakhstan is a multinational country. Nationalist infection can spread to other ethnic groups, destabilizing ultimately the statehood of Kazakhstan. Lenin also wrote about the "ticklishness of the national question." And the example of the Third Reich is generally classic.
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    Dzafdet (Sergei) 10 February 2020 12: 11
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    In Uzbekistan, in the 90s, the same canoe was. A man will leave for work, comes, and the Uzbeks have already taken the apartment, knocking out the door. And there was no government on them. Even at the railway station, they opened containers, took things with shouts: you bought everything with our money ..