In Belarus, a landslide drop in pro-Russian sentiment




As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment.

If you believe the reports of Belsat.eu, referring to the results of a study by the Belarusian Analytical Workshop by Andrei Vardomatsky (BAW), you might get the impression that Belarusians in Minsk are already collecting anti-Russian Maidan following the example of the Ukrainian 2014.

Indeed, according to Vardomatsky’s “workshop”, only from September to December 2019 the number of Russian supporters in the republic decreased by 14,7%, and in general, over the past year, the share of allies with Russia underwent an unprecedented reduction from 60,4 % to 40,4%.

You do not need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand what the catch is.

The fact is that Belsat is a structure owned by Poland, and Vardomatsky with his "workshop" is one of those "underestimated" and "offended" by the Belarusian authorities who chose to flee the republic and get hooked on Western grants outside Belarus.

It is unlikely to be surprising that Vardomatsky and his “workshop”, like Belsat, also work in Poland.

This alone makes us treat these “studies” with a great deal of skepticism. It is possible that the figures announced by “Belsat” with reference to Vardomatsky were received by the “workshop” of Vardomatsky from the same “Belsat”.
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  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 11: 45
    -5
    I'm not surprised by this. There is the concept of "an elephant in a china shop" ....
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  2. Port Offline Port
    Port 6 February 2020 11: 54
    +5
    Quote: Arkharov
    There is the concept of "an elephant in a china shop"

    There is a concept "the cat knows whose meat it has eaten."
  3. Yes, let them be bullied - chop off Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions - and roll, Russo-Bellia, sausage!
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 12: 46
      +3
      ... chop off the Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions ...

      That, probably, is the main idea (and argument) of skeptics in Belarus.
      All sorts of different "tyapkins, lyapkins, yeltsins" will come in large numbers at once and they will start to divide and chop everything again.
      It’s not like “their own” new bourgeois; here the people will think more simply about the prospects of being in the Russian periphery.
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    2. Breard Offline Breard
      Breard (Serg) 6 February 2020 12: 57
      +1
      ... chop off the Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions - and roll, Russo-Bellia, sausage!

      Hmm ... well, EVERYTHING IS CORRECT! After these and similar words you can understand the Belarusians! .... you need to say goodbye to yours! It's a pity. Vasherashensky leaders are those who service the oligarchs and others like that ... will do everything ... and the Americans will not need to do anything.
      And those who considered Russian brothers in Belarus ... hmm, naturally and definitely turn their backs.
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      2. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 6 February 2020 20: 41
        +1
        And those who considered Russian brothers in Belarus ... hmm, naturally and definitely turn their backs.

        If the brothers cannot live without a freebie, and only because of receiving it (without giving anything in return) consider themselves to be such, then these are not brothers at all, but persons with reduced social responsibility ...
        1. Breard Offline Breard
          Breard (Serg) 7 February 2020 09: 17
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          You live ... for free. Our "those in power" ... but in fact, with an oil and gas tap ... just milk this country, its natural resources. And they, to live, WORK.
          1. commbatant Offline commbatant
            commbatant (Sergei) 7 February 2020 20: 55
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            Quote: Breard
            You live ... for free. Our "those in power" ... but in fact, with an oil and gas tap ... just milk this country, its natural resources. And they, to live, WORK.

            Those. I do not work and live for free?
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 26 February 2020 21: 39
        +1
        Quote: Breard
        you need to say goodbye to yours!

        Yes, it’s time to drive the Belarusians into the reservation, and give their land to good white people. And if you thought about the Poles, then you are mistaken. Poles already live on the reservation.
    3. Ruslan k Offline Ruslan k
      Ruslan k (Ruslan k) 6 February 2020 13: 22
      0
      Is the gut really thin?
    4. Vkd dvk Offline Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk (Victor) 7 February 2020 11: 33
      +2
      And the fig? Let them be where they were. And let them calm down. Let them ask a shit talking in Moscow and the opposite in Berlin for an association that was once propagandized positively by both us and them.
  4. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 6 February 2020 12: 11
    +5
    And who paid for the research? Whose money is dancing?
    1. State Department, banner matter!
      1. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
        Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 6 February 2020 12: 17
        0
        Tired already.
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  5. GRF Offline GRF
    GRF 6 February 2020 12: 17
    +3
    Here the statement of Napoleon III is more suitable:

    It doesn’t matter how they vote, but it’s important how they count.

    Bourgeois, such honest bourgeois ...
  6. Vyacheslav Moscow 6 February 2020 13: 24
    +2
    ... As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment ...

    - what other magic wand? As Colin's dad said, they counted.
  7. Port Offline Port
    Port 6 February 2020 13: 44
    +3
    Quote: Bitter
    All sorts of "tyapkins, lyapkins, yeltsins" will come in large numbers at once

    Not the fact that the valtsman, Kolomoisky, and the rest of the shusters will not come.
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 14: 04
      +1
      Is not a fact...

      Of course not, but this is not yet discussed.

      The people watched how for decades everything in Russia was jerking, sold and closed, according to the principle "the market will settle everything" and "everything can be bought there." Whole industries were destroyed, not that there were some factories. The operating enterprises were bought up (privatized) at a symbolic price, closed and simply handed over for scrap.
      And now a new "perestroika" looms on the horizon for the Belarusians. The fear is justified.
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      2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) 6 February 2020 19: 44
        +3
        Gleb, are you talking about the 90s? We remember this ... now is not the 90s.
      3. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 7 February 2020 22: 31
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        And the Belarusians since 90 have everything unchanged, continuous "bloom", right ??? The Soviet remnants have finished eating - now a dumka - where to go on to eat for free?
      4. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 26 February 2020 21: 46
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        And this tattered, ruined, scrap metal country is the main stumbling block to the white democratic world. Not Colombia with cocaine, not Estonia with SS men, not Afghanistan with heroin - this is all easily democratized with the help of napalm - namely Russia.
        Do you, for an hour, the roof does not go?
        However, what am I talking about ... The supreme happiness for the lackey is to see the White Master destroy his family. After all, Bandera easily forgave Hitler for his brothers. And even received a German pension after the war, in Munich, as a full-time employee of Abwehr.
  8. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 6 February 2020 15: 14
    +5
    As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment.

    Whoever doubts what numbers are needed, these will be announced. This I mean that the fraternal people and all that is good, but the issue will have to be resolved with the "top" of the Republic of Belarus, and all these demarches are just information noise. Nobody is going to ask the people of Belarus especially. If everything rests on the will of the people, But Father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 15: 26
      -5
      123
      But father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections.

      - what for?
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 6 February 2020 16: 39
        +5
        "But father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections."
        - what for?

        Really, why? After all, he can then find out the real opinion of the people. And how then to live with this knowledge? After all, if the people are for integration, how to explain their tricks?
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 16: 45
          -4
          123
          A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 6 February 2020 16: 50
            +4
            A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.

            So I would like to get an answer to this biggest question. If yes, then Father, it's time to retire. If not, then wish good luck to the fraternal people in a big and happy independent life. And then it really is not clear whether they really want or do not want to. But father made this mess, he himself stood at the "origins", and now for decades they have been standing in the doorway, either entering or leaving. And so here it is - the will of the people, or do it, or goodbye.
            1. yury semru Offline yury semru
              yury semru (yury semru) 6 February 2020 19: 35
              +3
              ... and now for decades they have stood in the doorway, either come in or go out .....

              Well said. I also think that we should start with a referendum. Although it will become clear why to dance. 
            2. commbatant Offline commbatant
              commbatant (Sergei) 7 February 2020 20: 59
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              Quote: 123
              A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.

              So I would like to get an answer to this very big question.

              For me, the BIG question is the fight against poverty in the Russian Federation, and not the definition of the people of the Republic of Belarus with whom they ...
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 8 February 2020 00: 38
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                For me, the BIG question is the fight against poverty in the Russian Federation, and not the definition of the people of the Republic of Belarus with whom they ...

                Excuse me for curiosity, have you personally been affected by poverty, or is it so offensive to the state? If so, fight for health, Belarus will not bother you in this.
                1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                  commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 09: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: 123
                  ... it's a shame for the power? If so, fight for health, Belarus will not bother you in this.

                  Will be. If the money intended to improve the living standards of Russians will go to improve the living standards of Belarusians and their leadership, the USSR is no longer 30 years old, the Belarusian people, represented by Shushkevich, made their choice in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and all of you are the “Big” question about integration between RF and RB bet ....
                  The pseudo-union of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation (which does not have their own Constitution, Armed Forces, currency, foreign policy and economy), this "Union" is more profitable for Belarus than for the Russian Federation ....
                  In the ECONOMIC plan, the Russian Federation needs to draw closer to the more or less self-sufficient CIS states (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan) and the EU, the Asia-Pacific region ... in the political plan, the Russian Federation (like any major power / union) cannot have allies at all, only temporary regional partners (Turkey, Iran, China) ....
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 8 February 2020 09: 47
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                    commbatant (Sergey)
                    As I understand it, the problem of poverty has personally affected you, they are simply ready to virtually demand its eradication, approximately how Gretta Tumberg stands for ecology.

                    If the money intended to improve the standard of living of Russians goes to improve the standard of living of Belarusians and their leadership ...

                    You reason as if all Belarusians, except Father, are on the porch and it's time to distribute humanitarian rations to them. The whole problem of the Belarusian economy is that it was created as a part of the USSR, it exists separately with all the known problems, in case of unification it will fit into the "common pot". In addition, it is not yet clear whether the unification will take place or not, especially under what conditions. So, it is too early to start panic.

                    The USSR is no longer 30 years old, the Belarusian people, represented by Shushkevich, made their choice in "Belovezhskaya Pushcha", and you are all raising the "big" question about integration between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus ...

                    I did it 30 years ago, I can do it now, I don’t see any contradictions. Maybe this is news for you, but borders sometimes change. Ukraine also made its choice, and even earlier, under Khmelnitsky, it made another. It happens. If this does not suit you, you can make your choice and break with Russia.

                    The pseudo-union of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation (which does not have its own Constitution, Armed Forces, currency, foreign policy and economy), this "Union" is more profitable for Belarus than for the Russian Federation ....

                    Quite right, therefore, there is talk of full integration, and it will be beneficial to both countries.

                    The RF needs to come closer in the ECONOMIC plan with more or less self-sufficient CIS states (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan) and the EU, Asia-Pacific

                    Firstly, it is not clear what you mean by "rapprochement", if you explain, it will be possible to discuss, it is especially interesting how you are going to get closer to the EU sad and how ready, for example, is Azerbaijan for such a rapprochement.

                    ... on the political plane, the Russian Federation (like any major power / union) cannot have allies at all, only temporary regional partners (Turkey, Iran, China) ....

                    Why can't it? And who are NATO countries for the United States? Thank you, pleased laughing a very funny definition of China as a temporary regional partner.
                    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                      commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 18: 53
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                      123 (123)
                      commbatant (Sergey)
                      As I understand it, the problem of poverty has personally affected you

                      They understood correctly. Just what do you care? As they said in Russia:

                      Do not renounce sumy and prison ...

                      You argue so, as if the Belarusians all but Father are standing on the porch and it is time for them to distribute humanitarian rations.

                      I don’t give a damn about Belarusians (they made their choice 1/4 century ago and choosing it is independence, including from Russians) and all the more so against B.N.E.

                      if combined, it will fit into the "common pot"

                      Apparently, there is no desire, because there were more than enough opportunities, and only the Republic of Belarus will definitely benefit from the unification, the Russian Federation will receive another subsidized region, besides it is not pro-Russian from the word at all ...

                      In addition, it is not yet clear whether the merger will occur or not.

                      Do not panic, it will not happen, there are no economic or political prerequisites ... joint projects can be carried out at the bilateral level and outside the Union ...

                      Can, this is news for youbut borders sometimes change.

                      Do you measure yourself? Ukraine and Georgia have already shown that borders are changing in favor of the Russian Federation ...

                      Ukraine also made its choice, and even earlier, under Khmelnitsky, it made another. It happens. If this does not suit you, you can make your choice and break with Russia.

                      So I didn’t ask you and Khmelnitsky with whom to tear me, and where to live ...

                      That's right, that's why there is a conversation about full integration, and it will be beneficial to both countries.

                      What is the benefit of the Russian Federation?

                      very funny definition of China as a temporary regional partner

                      After the events in the main square of China, he is a forced partner of the USSR, and then the Russian Federation, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, from this, however, he will not become like that, he has the main trading partner of the USA ...
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 8 February 2020 21: 04
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                        They understood correctly. Just what do you care? As they said in Russia ...

                        Too many fighters in Moscow divorced from abstract poverty, corruption, unemployment. For MKAD sometimes go to Russia to see.

                        I don’t give a damn about Belarusians (they made their choice 1/4 century ago and choosing it is independence, including from Russians) and all the more so against B.N.E.

                        Fortunately, this is not for you to decide. 102 years ago, they also made a choice, so what? There is nothing eternal, yesterday dispersed, tomorrow converged. This is life.

                        Apparently, there is no desire, because there were more than enough opportunities, and only the Republic of Belarus will definitely benefit from the unification, the Russian Federation will receive another subsidized region, besides it is not pro-Russian from the word at all ...

                        If you redistribute tax deductions by subjects, rather than dragging everything to Moscow, and delivering hydrocarbons at world prices, you yourself will sit in subsidies in a couple of years. Pro-Russian is not pro-Russian, how do you know? Do you like Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, are they pro-Russian? Yes, you do not care, this is important for you money.

                        Do not panic, it will not happen, there are no economic or political prerequisites ... joint projects can be carried out at the bilateral level and outside the Union ...

                        I’m calm, like a boa constrictor, but life will show how it goes with the unification. What are the ... joint projects? Manager, or what? The country is not a business project.

                        Do you measure yourself? Ukraine and Georgia have already shown that borders are changing in favor of the Russian Federation ...

                        Not you, but you, I have not had the pleasure of being on the same hectare with you ... and I hope it will not happen. Yes, they have shown, both there and there they tried to deal with "joint projects" with their money partners, who else would get the same problems.

                        So I didn’t ask you and Khmelnitsky with whom to tear me, and where to live ..

                        Similarly, your opinion is infinitely expensive for me. hi And they didn’t ask, by the way, in vain, I would recommend the Wrangel island, you would like it. And it’s not an hour, life will change, the Moscow River is nearby.

                        What is the benefit of the Russian Federation?

                        First, it is necessary to start not with profit, but with state interests. We got used to measuring everything with money in stalls ..... As for the benefits, firstly, the border will become farther from you, "priceless" ones, missiles and planes will be farther, the population will grow, which means that the domestic market will grow, GDP.

                        After the events in the main square of China, he is a forced partner of the USSR, and then the Russian Federation, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, from this, however, he will not become like that, he has the main trading partner of the USA ...

                        A forced partner, but will not become an ally, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, because the main trading partner of the United States ..... winked Something nonsense climbed ..... Re-read the manual, confused in the testimony.
                        First, the crowd in Tiananmen Square was dispersed in 1989, what changed after that? How was this most "forced partnership" expressed? Secondly, why did you decide that I consider China to be our main ally? Third, a trading partner and an ally are completely different concepts. For example, our trade with Germany is almost the same as with China, and if you count the entire EU, then according to your logic, they are our main allies ... Before publishing something, first write on a piece of paper, re-read , you won't have to blush. Given your convictions .... advice is free, don't thank. hi
                      2. commbatant Offline commbatant
                        commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 22: 08
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                        123 (123) Too many fighters in Moscow divorced from abstract poverty, corruption, unemployment. XNUMXand the Moscow Ring Road sometimes go to Russia to see.

                        My slippers made fun, so 95% of Moscow residents have a limit because of the Moscow Ring Road .... like you ...
                        So Moscow is hated by the limit inside the Moscow Ring Road and the one that, like you, which is still outside its borders, due to the fact that they are not "Muscovites" ...

                        Fortunately, this is not for you to decide.

                        Apparently, you decided what? In vain.

                        There is nothing eternal, yesterday dispersed, tomorrow converged. This is life.

                        All the peoples who left RI and the USSR became its enemies ...

                        If you redistribute tax deductions by subjects, rather than dragging everything to Moscow, and delivering hydrocarbons at world prices, you yourself will sit in subsidies in a couple of years.

                        Strange things. Moscow, it seems, is a separate subject of the Russian Federation and itself does not decide anything. Transfer the Government of the Russian Federation to your collective farm "40 years without a crop" and live happily ..
                        Moscow has never been a subsidized city neither in the Republic of Ingushetia, nor in the USSR, nor in the Russian Federation (without deposits of hydrocarbons, gold, uranium, etc.) ... if it is easier for you to dump money from your collective farm into hated Moscow than make the local authorities respect you, so these are not the problems of Moscow ...

                        Yes, you do not care, this is important for you money.

                        How do you know what is more important to me and what is not?

                        I’m calm as a boa constrictor, but life will show how it goes with the unification.

                        Since the 94th "shows" ....

                        What are the ... joint projects? Manager, or what? A country is not a business project.

                        And why then the budget of the Union State?

                        Similarly, your opinion is infinitely expensive for me.

                        Offended by his tram rudeness, don’t worry, be the first to be rude, get a return ...

                        And it’s not an hour, life will change, the Moscow River is nearby.

                        Life is always moving, it is only in your hospital stagnation ...

                        First, it is necessary to start not with benefits, but with state interests.

                        In your opinion, these two concepts may not coincide? Here, for all the "allies" of the Russian Federation with their multi-vector policy, they may not really coincide, for example: oil for the Republic of Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, and in response, not recognizing the Crimea by the Republic of Belarus as part of the Russian Federation .... God forbid from such friends ...

                        As for the benefits, firstly, the border will become farther, from you, "priceless", missiles and planes will be farther

                        The experience of South Ossetia and Abkhazia shows that it is possible to do without injections of money to the "allies" to the detriment of the Russian people ...

                        the population will grow, which means the domestic market will grow

                        Only with a stable economy, women will not give birth in the Russian Federation, as long as they know that the priority for the Russian Federation is not they, but another "brotherly" people ...

                        Before you publish something, first write on a piece of paper, re-read, you will not have to blush. Given your beliefs .... advice is free, do not thank

                        And you there ... do not cough ...
                      3. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 9 February 2020 00: 29
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                        My slippers made fun, so 95% of Moscow residents have a limit because of the Moscow Ring Road .... like you ...
                        So Moscow is hated by the limit inside the Moscow Ring Road and the one that, like you, which is still outside its borders, due to the fact that they are not "Muscovites" ...

                        These are those who come from the village of Gadyukino and consider themselves indigenous and spoil the impression of Muscovites. Moscow is a normal city, and I don’t hate it, I don’t like these Muscovites.

                        Apparently, you decided what? In vain.

                        Why, no, not me. Life will show who was right.

                        All the peoples who left RI and the USSR became its enemies ...

                        Your point of view is strange, I would say elastic. If you consider them enemies, then where are the feelings about Georgia and Ukraine? By the way, what about Finland? As I understand it, do you fully support the decision of Joseph Vissarionovich on them? But the enemies are not there, they are slowly digging in the capital and crap quietly. repeat

                        Strange things. Moscow, it seems, is a separate subject of the Russian Federation and itself does not decide anything. Transfer the Government of the Russian Federation to your collective farm "40 years without a crop" and live happily ..
                        Moscow has never been a subsidized city neither in the Republic of Ingushetia, nor in the USSR, nor in the Russian Federation (without deposits of hydrocarbons, gold, uranium, etc.) ... if it is easier for you to dump money from your collective farm into hated Moscow than make the local authorities respect you, so these are not the problems of Moscow.

                        We do not need a government here, keep it in our reservation. Yes, Moscow, as an entity, does not decide for itself, they decide above, then, in what state it is now, it is far from your merit, all this was done for the money of the whole country. You consider yourself special and think that they are so smart and hardworking.

                        And why then the budget of the Union State?

                        Like other similar budgets, this is simply an estimate of income and expenses, designed to fulfill government obligations. I am ashamed not to know such elementary things.

                        Do you think these two concepts may not coincide?

                        Not only they can, they must not match. Infrastructure construction, defense, medicine, education, culture do not make a profit, what benefit can there be? The state is not to fill the budget. Again I have to explain elementary things to you.

                        Here, for all the "allies" of the Russian Federation with their multi-vector policy, they may not really coincide, for example: oil for the Republic of Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, and in response, not recognizing the Crimea by the Republic of Belarus as part of the Russian Federation .... God forbid from such friends ...

                        Your head is full of confusion, put everything in a heap. Allies and friends are not the same thing. Allied interests may be different. In politics, concepts such as friendship are not used. You don’t even understand this? winked

                        The experience of South Ossetia and Abkhazia shows that it is possible to do without injections of money to the "allies" to the detriment of the Russian people ...

                        You are also naive. Do you think they are economically independent and money is not sent there?

                        Only with a stable economy, women will not give birth in the Russian Federation, as long as they know that the priority for the Russian Federation is not they, but another "brotherly" people ...

                        You have very strange ideas about women, show at least one who thinks in this way. Say, "brotherly peoples" are dearer to our government than I am, so I won't give birth and that's it .... belay She is still married to a person, not to the state. You were wild there in Moscow at all. laughing
  • Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 6 February 2020 16: 27
    +5
    If Belarusians do not want to speak Russian, they will, as before, speak Polish, with corresponding consequences ...
    1. Vladimir Emelyanov_2 (Vladimir Emelyanov) 10 February 2020 21: 21
      +1
      You don't know Belarusians well enough. Take me, for example. I am an ardent supporter of the Russian Federation, but I was born and raised in Belarus (Belarus now), we have half of the country - the former Poland, we do not shy away from Poles, the attitude towards them is even very good, we will definitely not be ashamed to speak Polish, although in fact, we speak Russian or Trasyanka, Belarusian is very rare, very few people know it (literary), and will remain for a long period of time. Poland??? Do you know where Poland begins in Belarus ??? 15 km west of Minsk. We have two main faiths, Orthodox and Catholic, and you know, they coexist very peacefully, once during a sermon in a church (I am Orthodox, I baptized my godmother Catholic) the priest sounded the following - it's good when young people come to a church or church, and not to bottle, he stressed that our faith is one, just as we are one with our "Polish" Belarusians.
  • old friend Offline old friend
    old friend (Vitali) 6 February 2020 17: 07
    +3
    Lord, does this Vardamatsky still live? The last time I heard about him was 2004-2005 ...
    But seriously, the government of the Russian Federation must finally understand that the Commonwealth is the very carrot that has been hanging in front of their "face" for 20 years. AHL has never seriously considered the Union State as a real project. It was always just a way to get extra. economic preferences.
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  • Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 6 February 2020 19: 37
    +2
    Again we break lances for any reason, and now about Belarus ... Isn't it time for us to remember the times of the Warsaw Pact countries, where the government was peaceful and loyal to the USSR, and the million-strong army of the GSVG and the Western Group of Forces was support for that, and not a single trash did not dare then blather a bad word in our country, or look askance in our direction. Now, when our two previous presidents sold and drank the country on drink, withdrew our troops from Eastern Europe, it was then that everything went to hell - the collapse of the country, the economy and the impoverishment of the people, and on the wreckage of the USSR, simply specific principalities were created from former "fraternal" peoples ", and there the guys from Washington made a very good hustle, making our fierce and aggressive enemies out of friendly countries and peoples, and now it turns out that not" The suite is playing the king ", but on the contrary ... Remember the autumn of 2 years, when Yushchenko was "elected" as president of Ukraine on the third attempt, and immediately after his seating on the Ukrainian throne, he declared Russia "Enemy No. 2004", and, of course, at the behest of Washington, that was when it went, and it came to the coup d'etat and the civil war, and now we have become bitter enemies for more than one hundred years. And the same thing, one to one, is happening in Belarus, and there the propaganda war against Russia has been going on for more than one year, but we're all about some union state arst, we lalyak, after all, it is nevertheless clearly understood, on the living example of Ukraine, and that, from the point of view of a normal person, should not be dreamed of even in a terrible dream. So, "never say never", in our troubled, troubled and terrible time, even the incredible becomes obvious happens ... What a pity those times when we lived one great and brotherly country, and now ... ..
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 23: 39
      +3
      Isn’t it time for us to recall the times of the Warsaw Pact countries, where power was peaceful and loyal to the USSR

      No time. No. Whose money will be dancing? Forget it, but rather drink it or vice versa.

      the millionth army of the GSVG and the ZGV was support for this, and not a single trash dared to blather a bad word into our country then.

      Just someone fool at one time "forgot" that the positions and authority in the world that Russia had as part of the USSR, and the CMEA, and the OVD, and so on, were not donated from the broad tsarist shoulder, but were won by the blood and sweat of Soviet people.
      Some very cleverly betrayed the 40 million people who died in that war, and the memory of them, having built up more than one private million of money on this.

      sorry for the times when we lived in one great and fraternal country, and now .....

      But now many "great" countries, rulers and proud peoples have emerged.
      You can lend to everyone. fellow
  • Roarv Offline Roarv
    Roarv (Robert) 7 February 2020 05: 00
    +2
    The case of Soros is unshakable and unshakable ... Until the moment when our liberals play along with him ......
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    pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov) 7 February 2020 11: 25
    +2
    Sociology, astrology, palmistry, psychology, alchemy, physiognomy, all kinds of religions, charging things and removing and letting spoilage, statistics ..., are the essence: pseudoscience, cheap circus tricks and gypsy with elements of suggestion, neuro-linguistic programming ...
    Ratings, moods, preferences, polls ... What is the purpose? That will be the result. There would be an answer, there will be questions and a clever solution.
    An example of the last week: the highest mortality rate was in the Pskov region, and the lowest in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. What does this mean? Yes, about nothing! We came from Ukraine or from somewhere else to the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, earned money, a big pension ... And they piled from the north much warmer. It is not for Karymkary to leave Surgut, NizhneVartovsk, Raduzhny, Novo-Agansk, NefteYugansk, Khanty-Mansiysk and other Nyagonya (the same great Belarusian biathlete and, as it were, Russian tennis player, whose parents piled from Nyagon to the regions with a milder climate). What kind of mortality is there if they go to die on the "mainland"? And even if they die, so basically - accidents, heart, cirrhosis, oncology ...
    Here you have the polls, statistics, sociology.
    With regard to Belarus - I want to be nationalists, but - globalists; socialists (at the expense of a rich non-brother) and - capitalists; I want to command Russia, but not vice versa; you want to have everything and not share; I want to be involved in smuggling, to sell my goods without restrictions, but to set import restrictions. For example, in the Tyumen region, not all townspeople can supply themselves with gas, despite the fact that the pipe runs three meters from the house ... But if the dad wants, like in Russia, tell your citizens: pay 5-10 thousand dollars and we will supply you with gas, as is done in Russia. In general, "and eat and - sit down."
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      123 (123) 7 February 2020 16: 10
      +3
      Karymkary is yes, a large port city. laughing Pensioners are unlikely to go there, it is not easy to get there, in the summer by water, in winter by air or winter road. Many, by the way, are going to retire to you.
      As for Belarus, you are absolutely right, nobody is going to ask the people too much, everything is decided by the "top". If someone has the illusion that the authorities are trying there exclusively for the working people, look at the example of China. Two planes were sent there with humanitarian aid, everything was as it should be - a meeting, ambassadors, cameras, almost confetti with balloons. But they did not bother to take out their citizens. They are not China, they will not give a loan.
  • Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 7 February 2020 23: 06
    +1
    Well! Found an "objective" source - a sociological survey !!!!!! No need to sculpt a hunchback and "work for science".
  • Vitaly Dino-Zavro (Vitaly Dino-Zavro) 8 February 2020 10: 41
    0
    Tamed landslide drop. Well, on such a scale. Although there are actually Russophobes such as never dreamed of.
  • Vladimir Emelyanov_2 (Vladimir Emelyanov) 10 February 2020 21: 09
    +1
    Well, I don’t know, in my opinion, on the contrary, they have become more for Russia. In our discussions on the Russian Federation, there are somehow more people who understand that a break with Russia will bring us. There are enough pro-Western sentiments, but these are mainly those who are around 30-40, the older generation is unambiguously majority for the Russian Federation and, oddly enough, the youth seems to be neutral, but certainly not against Russia in the majority, which makes me personally happy. The Russians are probably unaware that our great helmsman is popular throughout the CIS, and we are already across the throat, and if he barks with Russia, this does not mean that we obediently listen to him. Hi from Minsk.