In Belarus, a landslide drop in pro-Russian sentiment




As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment.

If you believe the reports of Belsat.eu, referring to the results of a study by the Belarusian Analytical Workshop by Andrei Vardomatsky (BAW), you might get the impression that Belarusians in Minsk are already collecting anti-Russian Maidan following the example of the Ukrainian 2014.

Indeed, according to Vardomatsky’s “workshop”, only from September to December 2019 the number of Russian supporters in the republic decreased by 14,7%, and in general, over the past year, the share of allies with Russia underwent an unprecedented reduction from 60,4 % to 40,4%.

You do not need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand what the catch is.

The fact is that Belsat is a structure owned by Poland, and Vardomatsky with his "workshop" is one of those "underestimated" and "offended" by the Belarusian authorities who chose to flee the republic and get hooked on Western grants outside Belarus.

It is unlikely to be surprising that Vardomatsky and his “workshop”, like Belsat, also work in Poland.

This alone makes us treat these “studies” with a great deal of skepticism. It is possible that the figures announced by “Belsat” with reference to Vardomatsky were received by the “workshop” of Vardomatsky from the same “Belsat”.
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 11: 45
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    I'm not surprised at this. There is the concept of "elephant in the china shop" ....
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  2. Port Offline
    Port 6 February 2020 11: 54
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    Quote: Arkharov
    There is the concept of "elephant in the china shop"

    There is the concept of "knows the cat whose meat is eaten."
  3. Yes, let them be bullied - chop off Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions - and roll, Russo-Bellia, sausage!
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 12: 46
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      ... chop off the Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions ...

      That, probably, is the main idea (and argument) of skeptics in Belarus.
      All kinds of different "chippers, lyapkins, Yeltsins" will come at once and they will begin to divide and crush everything in a row.
      It’s not just “their” new bourgeoisie, here the people will more simply think about the prospects of being in the Russian periphery.
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    2. Breard Offline
      Breard (Serg) 6 February 2020 12: 57
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      ... chop off the Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel regions - and roll, Russo-Bellia, sausage!

      Hmm ... well, EVERYTHING IS CORRECT! After these and similar words you can understand the Belarusians! .... you need to say goodbye to yours! It's a pity. Vasherashensky leaders are those who service the oligarchs and others like that ... will do everything ... and the Americans will not need to do anything.
      And those who considered Russian brothers in Belarus ... hmm, naturally and definitely turn their backs.
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      2. commbatant Offline
        commbatant (Sergei) 6 February 2020 20: 41
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        And those who considered Russian brothers in Belarus ... hmm, naturally and definitely turn their backs.

        If the brothers cannot live without a freebie, and only because of receiving it (without giving anything in return) consider themselves to be such, then these are not brothers at all, but persons with reduced social responsibility ...
        1. Breard Offline
          Breard (Serg) 7 February 2020 09: 17
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          You live ... for free. Our "those in power" ... but in fact with an oil and gas tap ... just milk this country, its natural resources. And they WORK to live.
          1. commbatant Offline
            commbatant (Sergei) 7 February 2020 20: 55
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            Quote: Breard
            You live ... for free. Our "those in power" ... but in fact with an oil and gas tap ... just milk this country, its natural resources. And they WORK to live.

            Those. I do not work and live for free?
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 26 February 2020 21: 39
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        Quote: Breard
        you need to say goodbye to yours!

        Yes, it’s time to drive the Belarusians into the reservation, and give their land to good white people. And if you thought about the Poles, then you are mistaken. Poles already live on the reservation.
    3. Ruslan k Offline
      Ruslan k (Ruslan k) 6 February 2020 13: 22
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      Is the gut really thin?
    4. Vkd dvk Offline
      Vkd dvk (Victor) 7 February 2020 11: 33
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      And the fig? Let them be where they were. And let them calm down. Let them ask a shit talking in Moscow and the opposite in Berlin for an association that was once propagandized positively by both us and them.
  4. Dmitry S. Offline
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 6 February 2020 12: 11
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    And who paid for the research? Whose money is dancing?
    1. State Department, banner matter!
      1. Dmitry S. Offline
        Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 6 February 2020 12: 17
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        Tired already.
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  5. GRF Offline
    GRF 6 February 2020 12: 17
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    Here the statement of Napoleon III is more suitable:

    It doesn’t matter how they vote, but it’s important how they count.

    Bourgeois, such honest bourgeois ...
  6. Vyacheslav Moscow 6 February 2020 13: 24
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    ... As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment ...

    - what other magic wand? As Colin's dad said, they counted.
  7. Port Offline
    Port 6 February 2020 13: 44
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    Quote: Bitter
    All sorts of different "choppers, lyapkins, Yeltsins"

    Not the fact that the valtsman, Kolomoisky, and the rest of the shusters will not come.
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 14: 04
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      Is not a fact...

      Of course not, but this is not yet discussed.

      The people watched how for decades in Russia everything was jerking, selling and closing, according to the principle "the market will resolve everything" and "everything can be bought there." Entire industries were destroyed, not just factories. Existing enterprises were bought up (privatized) at a symbolic price, closed and banally scrapped.
      And now a new “perestroika” has loomed for Belarusians on the horizon. Fear is justified.
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      2. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 6 February 2020 19: 44
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        Gleb, are you talking about the 90s? We remember this ... now is not the 90s.
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        akarfoxhound 7 February 2020 22: 31
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        And Belarusians have been unchanged since the year 90, solid “flowering”, yes ??? Soviet remnants have eaten up - now a little thought - where to gobble up on a freebie?
      4. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 26 February 2020 21: 46
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        And this tattered, ruined, scrap metal country is the main stumbling block to the white democratic world. Not Colombia with cocaine, not Estonia with SS men, not Afghanistan with heroin - this is all easily democratized with the help of napalm - namely Russia.
        Do you, for an hour, the roof does not go?
        However, what am I talking about ... The supreme happiness for the lackey is to see the White Master destroy his family. After all, Bandera easily forgave Hitler for his brothers. And even received a German pension after the war, in Munich, as a full-time employee of Abwehr.
  8. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 6 February 2020 15: 14
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    As if by magic, on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus, sociologists recorded a “landslide” of pro-Russian sentiment.

    Who would doubt what figures are needed, such and voiced. I mean that the fraternal people and all that is good, but the issue will have to be resolved with the "top" of the Republic of Belarus, and all these demarches are just informational noise. The people of Belarus are not going to ask much. If everything rests on the will of the people, But father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 15: 26
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      But father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections.

      - what for?
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 6 February 2020 16: 39
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        "But father could hold a referendum, to coincide with the same elections."
        - what for?

        Really, why? After all, he can then find out the real opinion of the people. And how then to live with this knowledge? After all, if the people are for integration, how to explain their tricks?
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 February 2020 16: 45
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          A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 6 February 2020 16: 50
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            A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.

            So I would like to get an answer to this biggest question. If so, But father has to retire. If not, then wish good luck to the fraternal people in a large and happy independent life. And it’s really not clear whether they really want to or not. But father has brewed this porridge, he himself stood at the "source", and now for decades they have stood at the door, either come in or go out. And so it is the will of the people, or do it, or goodbye.
            1. yury semru Offline
              yury semru (yury semru) 6 February 2020 19: 35
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              ... and now for decades they have stood in the doorway, either come in or go out .....

              Well said. I also think that we should start with a referendum. Although it will become clear why to dance.
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              commbatant (Sergei) 7 February 2020 20: 59
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              A very big question about the result, in the case of a truly honest vote.

              So I would like to get an answer to this very big question.

              For me, the BIG question is the fight against poverty in the Russian Federation, and not the definition of the people of the Republic of Belarus with whom they ...
              1. 123 Offline
                123 (123) 8 February 2020 00: 38
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                For me, the BIG question is the fight against poverty in the Russian Federation, and not the definition of the people of the Republic of Belarus with whom they ...

                Excuse me for curiosity, have you personally been affected by poverty, or is it so offensive to the state? If so, fight for health, Belarus will not bother you in this.
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                  commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 09: 06
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                  ... it's a shame for the power? If so, fight for health, Belarus will not bother you in this.

                  Will be. If the money intended to improve the living standards of Russians will go to improve the living standards of Belarusians and their leadership, the USSR is no longer 30 years old, the Belarusian people, represented by Shushkevich, have made their choice in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and you’re all the Big Question about integration between RF and RB put ....
                  The pseudo-union of Belarus and the Russian Federation (which does not have its own Constitution, armed forces, currency, foreign policy and economy), this "Union" is more beneficial to the Republic of Belarus than to the Russian Federation ....
                  In the ECONOMIC plan, the Russian Federation needs to draw closer to the more or less self-sufficient CIS states (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan) and the EU, the Asia-Pacific region ... in the political plan, the Russian Federation (like any major power / union) cannot have allies at all, only temporary regional partners (Turkey, Iran, China) ....
                  1. 123 Offline
                    123 (123) 8 February 2020 09: 47
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                    As I understand it, the problem of poverty has personally affected you, they are simply ready to virtually demand its eradication, approximately how Gretta Tumberg stands for ecology.

                    If the money intended to improve the standard of living of Russians goes to improve the standard of living of Belarusians and their leadership ...

                    You argue so, as if the Belarusians all but Father are standing on the porch and it is time for them to distribute humanitarian rations. The whole problem of the Belarusian economy is that it was created as part of the USSR, separately exists with all the known problems, in case of merger it will fit into the “common boiler”. In addition, it is not yet clear whether the merger will take place or not, especially under what conditions. So, to raise a panic prematurely.

                    The USSR is no longer 30 years old, the Belarusian people, represented by Shushkevich, have made their choice in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and you all raise the "Big" question about integration between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus ...

                    I did it 30 years ago, I can do it now, I don’t see any contradictions. Maybe this is news for you, but borders sometimes change. Ukraine also made its choice, and even earlier, under Khmelnitsky, it made another. It happens. If this does not suit you, you can make your choice and break with Russia.

                    The pseudo-union of Belarus and the Russian Federation (which does not have its own Constitution, armed forces, currency, foreign policy and economy), this "Union" is more beneficial to Belarus than to the Russian Federation ....

                    Quite right, therefore, there is talk of full integration, and it will be beneficial to both countries.

                    The RF needs to come closer in the ECONOMIC plan with more or less self-sufficient CIS states (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan) and the EU, Asia-Pacific

                    Firstly, it is unclear what you mean by "getting closer", if you explain, it will become possible to discuss, it is especially interesting how you were going to get closer to the EU sad and how ready, for example, is Azerbaijan for such a rapprochement.

                    ... on the political plane, the Russian Federation (like any major power / union) cannot have allies at all, only temporary regional partners (Turkey, Iran, China) ....

                    Why can't it? And who are NATO countries for the United States? Thank you, pleased laughing a very funny definition of China as a temporary regional partner.
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                      commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 18: 53
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                      123 (123)
                      commbatant (Sergey)
                      As I understand it, the problem of poverty has personally affected you

                      They understood correctly. Just what do you care? As they said in Russia:

                      Do not renounce sumy and prison ...

                      You argue so, as if the Belarusians all but Father are standing on the porch and it is time for them to distribute humanitarian rations.

                      I don’t give a damn about Belarusians (they made their choice 1/4 century ago and choosing it is independence, including from Russians) and all the more so against B.N.E.

                      if combined, it will fit into the "common boiler"

                      Apparently, there is no desire, because there were more than enough opportunities, and only the Republic of Belarus will definitely benefit from the unification, the Russian Federation will receive another subsidized region, besides it is not pro-Russian from the word at all ...

                      In addition, it is not yet clear whether the merger will occur or not.

                      Do not panic, it will not happen, there are no economic or political prerequisites ... joint projects can be carried out at the bilateral level and outside the Union ...

                      Can, this is news for youbut borders sometimes change.

                      Do you measure yourself? Ukraine and Georgia have already shown that borders are changing in favor of the Russian Federation ...

                      Ukraine also made its choice, and even earlier, under Khmelnitsky, it made another. It happens. If this does not suit you, you can make your choice and break with Russia.

                      So I didn’t ask you and Khmelnitsky with whom to tear me, and where to live ...

                      That's right, that's why there is a conversation about full integration, and it will be beneficial to both countries.

                      What is the benefit of the Russian Federation?

                      very funny definition of China as a temporary regional partner

                      After the events in the main square of China, he is a forced partner of the USSR, and then the Russian Federation, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, from this, however, he will not become like that, he has the main trading partner of the USA ...
                      1. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 8 February 2020 21: 04
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                        They understood correctly. Just what do you care? As they said in Russia ...

                        Too many fighters in Moscow divorced from abstract poverty, corruption, unemployment. For MKAD sometimes go to Russia to see.

                        I don’t give a damn about Belarusians (they made their choice 1/4 century ago and choosing it is independence, including from Russians) and all the more so against B.N.E.

                        Fortunately, this is not for you to decide. 102 years ago, they also made a choice, so what? There is nothing eternal, yesterday dispersed, tomorrow converged. This is life.

                        Apparently, there is no desire, because there were more than enough opportunities, and only the Republic of Belarus will definitely benefit from the unification, the Russian Federation will receive another subsidized region, besides it is not pro-Russian from the word at all ...

                        If you redistribute tax deductions by subjects, rather than dragging everything to Moscow, and delivering hydrocarbons at world prices, you yourself will sit in subsidies in a couple of years. Pro-Russian is not pro-Russian, how do you know? Do you like Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, are they pro-Russian? Yes, you do not care, this is important for you money.

                        Do not panic, it will not happen, there are no economic or political prerequisites ... joint projects can be carried out at the bilateral level and outside the Union ...

                        I’m calm, like a boa constrictor, but life will show how it goes with the unification. What are the ... joint projects? Manager, or what? The country is not a business project.

                        Do you measure yourself? Ukraine and Georgia have already shown that borders are changing in favor of the Russian Federation ...

                        Not you, but you, I didn’t have the same pleasure with you on one hectare ... to be and I hope it will not happen. Yes, they showed, both there and there they tried to engage in “joint projects” with money partners, who else would get the same problems.

                        So I didn’t ask you and Khmelnitsky with whom to tear me, and where to live ..

                        Similarly, your opinion is infinitely expensive for me. hi And they didn’t ask, by the way, in vain, I would recommend the Wrangel island, you would like it. And it’s not an hour, life will change, the Moscow River is nearby.

                        What is the benefit of the Russian Federation?

                        First, it is necessary to start not with benefits, but with state interests. They got used to stalling everything for money ..... And as for the benefits, firstly, the border will be further away, the “priceless” ones will be farther from you, the population will grow, and this means the domestic market will grow, growth GDP.

                        After the events in the main square of China, he is a forced partner of the USSR, and then the Russian Federation, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, from this, however, he will not become like that, he has the main trading partner of the USA ...

                        A forced partner, but will not become an ally, but you can consider him the main ally of the Russian Federation, because the main trading partner of the United States ..... winked Something nonsense climbed ..... Re-read the manual, confused in the testimony.
                        Firstly, the crowd was dispersed in Tiananmen Square in 1989, what has changed after that? What is the expression of this "forced partnership"? Secondly, why did you decide that I consider China to be our main ally? Thirdly, a trading partner and an ally are completely different concepts. With Germany, for example, our trade is almost the same as with China, and if you count the entire EU, then according to your logic, they are our main allies .... Before you publish something, first write on the piece of paper, re-read You don’t have to blush. Given your beliefs .... advice is free, do not thank. hi
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                        commbatant (Sergei) 8 February 2020 22: 08
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                        123 (123) Too many fighters in Moscow divorced from abstract poverty, corruption, unemployment. XNUMXand the Moscow Ring Road sometimes go to Russia to see.

                        My slippers made fun, so 95% of Moscow residents have a limit because of the Moscow Ring Road .... like you ...
                        So Moscow is hated by the limit inside the Moscow Ring Road and the one that like you, which is still beyond its borders, because they are not "Muscovites" ...

                        Fortunately, this is not for you to decide.

                        Apparently, you decided what? In vain.

                        There is nothing eternal, yesterday dispersed, tomorrow converged. This is life.

                        All the peoples who left RI and the USSR became its enemies ...

                        If you redistribute tax deductions by subjects, rather than dragging everything to Moscow, and delivering hydrocarbons at world prices, you yourself will sit in subsidies in a couple of years.

                        Strange things. Moscow, it seems, is a separate subject of the Russian Federation and does not decide anything. Transfer the Government of the Russian Federation to your collective farm "40 years without a harvest" and live happily ..
                        Moscow has never been a subsidized city neither in the Republic of Ingushetia, nor in the USSR, nor in the Russian Federation (without deposits of hydrocarbons, gold, uranium, etc.) ... if it is easier for you to dump money from your collective farm into hated Moscow than make the local authorities respect you, so these are not the problems of Moscow ...

                        Yes, you do not care, this is important for you money.

                        How do you know what is more important to me and what is not?

                        I’m calm as a boa constrictor, but life will show how it goes with the unification.

                        From the 94th "shows" ....

                        What are the ... joint projects? Manager, or what? A country is not a business project.

                        And why then the budget of the Union State?

                        Similarly, your opinion is infinitely expensive for me.

                        Offended by his tram rudeness, don’t worry, be the first to be rude, get a return ...

                        And it’s not an hour, life will change, the Moscow River is nearby.

                        Life is always moving, it is only in your hospital stagnation ...

                        First, it is necessary to start not with benefits, but with state interests.

                        Do you think these two concepts may not coincide? For all “allies” of the Russian Federation, they may not really coincide with their multi-vector policies, for example: oil for Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, and in return, the Crimea is not recognized as a part of the Russian Federation .... God forbid from such friends ...

                        As for the benefits, firstly, the border will be further away, from you, “priceless”, rockets and planes will be further

                        The experience of South Ossetia and Abkhazia shows that it is possible to do without money injections into the address of the "allies" to the detriment of the Russian people ...

                        the population will grow, which means the domestic market will grow

                        Only in a stable economy, women will not give birth in Russia, as long as they know that they are not the priority for the Russian Federation, but the next "brotherly" people ...

                        Before you publish something, first write on a piece of paper, re-read, you will not have to blush. Given your beliefs .... advice is free, do not thank

                        And you there ... do not cough ...
                      3. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 9 February 2020 00: 29
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                        My slippers made fun, so 95% of Moscow residents have a limit because of the Moscow Ring Road .... like you ...
                        So Moscow is hated by the limit inside the Moscow Ring Road and the one that like you, which is still beyond its borders, because they are not "Muscovites" ...

                        These are those who come from the village of Gadyukino and consider themselves indigenous and spoil the impression of Muscovites. Moscow is a normal city, and I don’t hate it, I don’t like these Muscovites.

                        Apparently, you decided what? In vain.

                        Why, no, not me. Life will show who was right.

                        All the peoples who left RI and the USSR became its enemies ...

                        Your point of view is strange, I would say elastic. If you consider them enemies, then where are the feelings about Georgia and Ukraine? By the way, what about Finland? As I understand it, do you fully support the decision of Joseph Vissarionovich on them? But the enemies are not there, they are slowly digging in the capital and crap quietly. repeat

                        Strange things. Moscow, it seems, is a separate subject of the Russian Federation and does not decide anything. Transfer the Government of the Russian Federation to your collective farm "40 years without a harvest" and live happily ..
                        Moscow has never been a subsidized city neither in the Republic of Ingushetia, nor in the USSR, nor in the Russian Federation (without deposits of hydrocarbons, gold, uranium, etc.) ... if it is easier for you to dump money from your collective farm into hated Moscow than make the local authorities respect you, so these are not the problems of Moscow.

                        We do not need a government here, keep it in our reservation. Yes, Moscow, as an entity, does not decide for itself, they decide above, then, in what state it is now, it is far from your merit, all this was done for the money of the whole country. You consider yourself special and think that they are so smart and hardworking.

                        And why then the budget of the Union State?

                        Like other similar budgets, this is simply an estimate of income and expenses, designed to fulfill government obligations. I am ashamed not to know such elementary things.

                        Do you think these two concepts may not coincide?

                        Not only they can, they must not match. Infrastructure construction, defense, medicine, education, culture do not make a profit, what benefit can there be? The state is not to fill the budget. Again I have to explain elementary things to you.

                        For all the "allies" of the Russian Federation, with their multi-vector policy, they may not really coincide, for example: oil for Belarus at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, and in return not recognition of the Crimea as a part of the Russian Federation .... God forbid from such friends ...

                        Your head is full of confusion, put everything in a heap. Allies and friends are not the same thing. Allied interests may be different. In politics, concepts such as friendship are not used. You don’t even understand this? winked

                        The experience of South Ossetia and Abkhazia shows that it is possible to do without money injections into the address of the "allies" to the detriment of the Russian people ...

                        You are also naive. Do you think they are economically independent and money is not sent there?

                        Only in a stable economy, women will not give birth in Russia, as long as they know that they are not the priority for the Russian Federation, but the next "brotherly" people ...

                        You have very strange ideas about women, show at least one that argues in this way. Say, to our government, "fraternal peoples" are more expensive than me, but I won’t give birth and that's it .... belay She is still married to a person, not to the state. You were wild there in Moscow at all. laughing
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    Bulanov (Vladimir) 6 February 2020 16: 27
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    If Belarusians do not want to speak Russian, they will, as before, speak Polish, with corresponding consequences ...
    1. Vladimir Emelyanov_2 (Vladimir Emelyanov) 10 February 2020 21: 21
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      You know Belarusians poorly. Here, for example, take me. I am an ardent supporter of the Russian Federation, but I was born and raised in Belarus (Belarus now), we have half the country — former Poland, we don’t shy away from the Poles, we are even very nice to them, it’s definitely not shameful for us to speak Polish, although in fact, we speak Russian or tarsian, Belarusian is very rare, few people know it (literary), and it will remain for a long period of time. Poland??? Do you know where Poland begins in Belarus ??? 15km west of Minsk. We have two main faiths, Orthodox and Catholic, and you know, they coexist very peacefully, once during a sermon in a church (I’m Orthodox, I baptized my godmother Catholic), the following was said from a priest - it’s good when young people come to a church or church, and not to bottle, he stressed that our faith is one, as we are one with our "Polish" Belarusians.
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    old friend (Vitali) 6 February 2020 17: 07
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    Lord, does this Vardamatsky still live? The last time I heard about him was 2004-2005 ...
    But seriously, the Russian government should finally understand that the Commonwealth is the same carrot that has been hanging in front of its face for 20 years. The AHL has never seriously considered the Union State as a real project. Always it was only a way to get extra. economic preferences.
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    Valentine (Valentin) 6 February 2020 19: 37
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    Again we are breaking spears for any reason, and now about Belarus ... Is it time for us to recall the times of the Warsaw Pact countries, where the government was peaceful and loyal to the USSR, and the million-strong army of the GSVG and the Group of State Forces was support for this, and not a single trash then I didn’t dare to blather a bad word into our country, or look askance in our direction. Now, when our two previous presidents sold and drank the country, our troops were withdrawn from Eastern Europe, then it was all to hell — the collapse of the country, the economy and the impoverishment of the people, and just separate princedoms from the USSR were created former "brotherly" peoples ", and the guys from Washington made a great fuss about them, having made our fierce and aggressive enemies of our friendly countries and peoples, and now it turns out that it’s not" Suite plays the king ", but vice versa ... Remember autumn 2 years when Yushchenko was "elected" as president Ukraine on the third attempt, and immediately after sitting on the Ukrainian throne, he declared Russia "Enemy No. 2004", and, of course, at the direction of Washington, then it went and went, and reached the state coup and civil wars, and now we have not become one hundred years the worst enemies.And the same thing, one in one, is happening in Belarus, and there the propaganda war against Russia has been going on for more than one year, and we are all about some kind of union state we cry, because it is nevertheless clearly understood, on a living example of Ukraine, and that, from the point of view of a normal person, should not dream even in a terrible dream. So, “never say never,” even in our muddy, troubled and terrible times, the incredible happens to be obvious .... What a pity the times when we lived as one great and fraternal country, and now ... ..
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      Bitter (Gleb) 6 February 2020 23: 39
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      Isn’t it time for us to recall the times of the Warsaw Pact countries, where power was peaceful and loyal to the USSR

      No time. no Whose money will be dancing? Forget it, but rather drink it or vice versa.

      the millionth army of the GSVG and the ZGV was support for this, and not a single trash dared to blather a bad word into our country then.

      Just someone fool at one time he “forgot” that the positions and authority in the world that Russia had as part of the USSR, and CMEA, and ATS, and so on, were not gifted from the broad tsar’s shoulder, but were won by the blood and sweat of Soviet people.
      Some very cleverly betrayed the 40 million people who died in that war, and the memory of them, having built up more than one private million of money on this.

      sorry for the times when we lived in one great and fraternal country, and now .....

      But now many "great" countries, rulers and proud peoples have formed.
      You can lend to everyone. fellow
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    Roarv (Robert) 7 February 2020 05: 00
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    The case of Soros is unshakable and unshakable ... Until the moment when our liberals play along with him ......
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    pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov) 7 February 2020 11: 25
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    Sociology, astrology, palmistry, psychology, alchemy, physiognomy, all kinds of religions, charging things and removing and letting spoilage, statistics ..., are the essence: pseudoscience, cheap circus tricks and gypsy with elements of suggestion, neuro-linguistic programming ...
    Ratings, moods, preferences, polls ... What is the purpose? That will be the result. There would be an answer, there will be questions and a clever solution.
    An example of the last week: the highest mortality in the Pskov region, and the lowest - in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. What is this talking about? Nothing about! We came from Ukraine or from where else to the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug, earned money, a large pension ... And dumped from the north is much warmer. But not to go to Karymkary from Surgut, NizhneVartovsk, Raduzhny, Novo-Agansk, NefteYugansk, Khanty-Mansiysk and other Nyagony (the same great Belarusian biathlete and, as it were, Russian tennis player, whose parents were dumped from Nyagoni to the regions with a milder climate). What mortality is there, if they go to die on the "mainland". And if they die, so basically - accidents, heart, cirrhosis, oncology ...
    Here you have the polls, statistics, sociology.
    With regards to Belarus, I want to be nationalists, but globalists; socialists (at the expense of rich non-brother) and - capitalists; I want to command Russia, but not vice versa; I want to have everything and not to share; I want to engage in smuggling, sell my goods without restrictions, but put restrictions on imports. For example, in the Tyumen region, not all citizens can get gas, despite the fact that the pipe passes three meters from the house ... But if the Old Man wants to, as in Russia, tell your citizens: pay 5-10 thousand dollars and we’ll draw you gas, as is done in Russia. In general, "and eat and sit."
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      123 (123) 7 February 2020 16: 10
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      Karymkary is yes, a large port city. laughing Pensioners are unlikely to go there, it is not easy to get there, in the summer by water, in winter by air or winter road. Many, by the way, are going to retire to you.
      As for Belarus, you are absolutely right, the people are not going to ask much, the "elite" decides everything. If someone has the illusion that there the government is trying exclusively for the working people, look at the example of China. 2 planes were sent there with humanitarian help, all as expected - a rally, ambassadors, cameras, almost confetti with balls. But they did not bother to take out their citizens. They are not China, they will not give credit.
  • Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) 7 February 2020 23: 06
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    Well! Found an "objective" source - a sociological survey !!!!!! No need to sculpt a hunchback and "work under science."
  • Vitaly Dino-Zavro (Vitaly Dino-Zavro) 8 February 2020 10: 41
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    Tamed landslide drop. Well, on such a scale. Although there are actually Russophobes such as never dreamed of.
  • Vladimir Emelyanov_2 (Vladimir Emelyanov) 10 February 2020 21: 09
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    Well, I don’t know, in my opinion, on the contrary, they have become more for Russia. In our discussions on the Russian Federation, there are somehow more people who understand that a break with Russia will bring us. There are enough pro-Western sentiments, but these are mainly those who are around 30-40, the older generation is unambiguously majority for the Russian Federation and, oddly enough, the youth seems to be neutral, but certainly not against Russia in the majority, which makes me personally happy. The Russians are probably unaware that our great helmsman is popular throughout the CIS, and we are already across the throat, and if he barks with Russia, this does not mean that we obediently listen to him. Hi from Minsk.