Without Americans: Russia proposed its own version of the lunar transport system


RSC Energia presented a direct flight project to our natural satellite, without using the American near-moon station as an intermediate link. The new concept is called "Jerk-2."


The transport system proposed by the corporation’s specialists provides for the delivery of the crew to the moon using a reusable spacecraft that can land on the surface of the Earth’s natural satellite. It is planned to use the Angara-A5 heavy rocket as a launch vehicle.

According to the report of the RSC Energia specialist Rafail Murtazin, the Ryvok-2 spacecraft will carry out 3 refueling during the flight to the Moon. For this purpose, fuel modules will be preliminarily delivered to the Earth’s orbit, the lunar orbit and the region of the lunar base.

It is worth recalling that the previous project of the transport system called “Jerk” provided for sending astronauts to our natural satellite with the ISS with an intermediate transfer at the near-moon station Lunar Orbital Platform-Gateway.

The project of the latter in 2017 was presented by the American space agency under the name Deep Space Gateway. In the same year, Roscosmos and NASA signed an agreement on cooperation in the construction of a manned near-moon station like the ISS. The role of our state was to create a gateway module and support system by 2024.

At the same time, the United States insisted that Russia use American of technologies. In turn, Roskosmos considered this role to be “secondary” and later left the Lunar Orbital Platform-Gateway program.

Russia cannot afford to participate in this project in its current form on the sidelines. We create our own transport system.

- said Dmitry Rogozin.
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  1. Nymp Offline
    Nymp (Boris) 21 January 2020 13: 17
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    And then the Amerikos wanted to use someone else's hump as a seat! This once again suggests that Russia cannot be cooperated with America. They consider themselves "exceptional", and the whole world as their vassals.
    1. cmonman Offline
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 22 January 2020 18: 15
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      They consider themselves "exceptional", and the whole world as their vassals.

      Answer me, “the former-present-and-future vassal of America”, where does the inch dimension come from in Russia? But it came to the USSR “exclusively” from the USA!
      Indeed, under Stalin, in huge aircraft hangars, tractors, cars, escalators for the subway, the press, elevators and other equipment from the United States were dismantled. And everything had an inch dimension.
      And you write on the “vassal” Amer’s computer, and send an email on the “vassal” Internet. So you had to put your “pride” in your pants pocket and follow in the wake of US developments - at least some movement forward. And as it is today -

      “We are creating our own transport system,” said Dmitry Rogozin.

      - these are just words! No one will give him so many grandmas - to build from scratch. Russia has more priority tasks - economic growth, impoverishment of the population, problems with demography. So the next 15-20 years you will have to look at the Moon only from the Earth, or through the ISS window.
  2. g1washntwn Offline
    g1washntwn (George Washington) 21 January 2020 14: 51
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    If cosmo-tankers for refueling are made refundable, it will be very good. Pulnul into orbit - the moon shuttle refueled - returned on the wings for the next portion of fuel for the next refueling. Buran was returned to the machine, why not with tankers? And on the return line they would take a payload from the space shuttle for delivery to the surface.
  3. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 21 January 2020 15: 17
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    In principle, this is the only correct way out. This is where the question of financing arises in full growth. Life experience tells me that it may appear, but then. The situation, it seems, will finally come to a standstill, then the “Guarantor” will speak, announce the reform of the industry, personnel changes, allocation of money and everything will be fine.
  4. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 21 January 2020 19: 02
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    Quote: g1washntwn
    If cosmo-tankers for refueling are made refundable, it will be very good. Pulnul into orbit - the moon shuttle refueled - returned on the wings for the next portion of fuel for the next refueling. Buran was returned to the machine, why not with tankers? And on the return line they would take a payload from the space shuttle for delivery to the surface.

    Can you calculate the effectiveness of such a technology? At the start, the mass of all this ship is 2 thousand tons. And the payload is about 30 tons. Headache on safe ballast descent of 100 tons. One or two lanes, all over Russia, worth crazy money and capable of accepting a refueling tanker. Repair, and before that, transporting it to a factory - an aircraft winder capable of dragging this refueling vehicle - Buran - Mriyu, made in a single copy, and, just for this purpose, left in Ukraine, another way to bring it, without dismantling the atoms for maintenance, not.
    1. g1washntwn Offline
      g1washntwn (George Washington) 22 January 2020 06: 25
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      Quote: wkd dvk
      And the payload is about 30 tons.

      Wiki twist laziness? Do not write nonsense. Buran starting at Energy, the maximum starting up to 105 tons. Part of the fuel from the tank will be spent on lifting.

      Quote: wkd dvk
      Headache on safe ballast descent of 100 tons

      Landing Buran 82-87. Without a payload, the tanker will obviously not be heavier.
      Well, and your other fabrications: for TO - the hangar next to the strip. The band next to the launch pad is not expected at all. Own or modular engines for atmospheric flights too. Etc.
      Well, unlike others, at least they tried to find at least some reasons.
  5. Anchonsha Offline
    Anchonsha (Anchonsha) 21 January 2020 21: 31
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    Well, that’s right, we don’t need second roles, especially in working with the USA. If we look at US technologies, we are not opposed, but we do not agree to work on them, this will be an American object, but not Russian at all.
  6. AICO Offline
    AICO (Vyacheslav) 21 January 2020 21: 48
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    Another "trampoline train" !!!
  7. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 21 January 2020 21: 51
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    And I always say: "Do not try to catch up with someone. We must create our own and let them Catch up with us!"
    Russia can afford it, yet.
  8. bonifacius Offline
    bonifacius (Alex) 21 January 2020 23: 09
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    Nevertheless, the technology proposed by Rogozin using trampoline seems more preferable to me.
  9. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 22 January 2020 02: 12
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    You first start the economy, increase real incomes of the population and then think about the lunar transport system. And then the "fly to the moon" - this is not for you to roll bags!
  10. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 January 2020 08: 49
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    If you recall that Roscosmos promised a flight to the moon in 2015 .....
    It becomes clear that this is another project to console the housewives ....

    For the implementation of which, it seems, there is absolutely nothing yet ...
  11. Vkd dvk Offline
    Vkd dvk (Victor) 22 January 2020 11: 26
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    Quote: g1washntwn
    Quote: wkd dvk
    And the payload is about 30 tons.

    Wiki to smoke laziness? Do not write nonsense. Buran starting at Energy, the maximum starting up to 105 tons. Part of the fuel from the tank will be spent on lifting.

    Quote: wkd dvk
    Headache on safe ballast descent of 100 tons

    Landing Buran 82-87. Without a payload, the tanker will obviously not be heavier.
    Well, and your other fabrications: for TO - the hangar next to the strip. The band next to the launch pad is not expected at all. Own or modular engines for atmospheric flights too. Etc.
    Well, unlike others, at least they tried to find at least some reasons.

    Here are some pictures. These are the very dreams of the hangar in which they dreamed of serving the Shuttle (undoubtedly, this is what you invented there too)



    But what they really had.



    If this is the only place on Earth to GROUND, then you can build such a "hangar". But, then the risk of putting Buran- refueling in THIS ONLY place ....
    The period of its circulation in orbit is 2 hours. And if you need to land an emergency emergency? And if these places will be a couple of dozen? Then there will be less risk, you can put on any nearest, but how to drag it into this "hangar"? "Hangars" also build as much?

    What tons are you writing about? Mass Energy where? As a tanker of such a mass. roughly equal to Shuttle Buran can be put into orbit without Energy? Yes, you're crazy crazy. The shuttle weighs 2 thousand tons at the start, ours is easier. 5 thousand tons. Shuttle payload 2 tons. Ours is bigger. The shuttle itself weighs 23 tons, ours is easier.
  12. Alien on this holiday of life 26 January 2020 22: 24
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    Jerk 2? On yachts, palaces and their broods is not enough. Do not go there, it is not yours.
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    Upmost (Innocent) 28 January 2020 04: 32
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    Quote: Anchonsha
    If you get acquainted with US technology, we do not mind, but we do not agree to work on them

    Well, then you have to, as before, "scratch". With possible life sentences for ordinary "parsley performers." To the infallible something - they put some, they will find others. So the asymmetric steepness of the Russian Federation is forged.
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    Upmost (Innocent) 28 January 2020 04: 35
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    Quote: Alien on this holiday of life
    Jerk-2

    Yes, the name in the style of the prescriptions of the president is Jerk, Throw, Jump, Breakthrough.