State Department: USA, on the example of S-400 and Turkey, taught a lesson to the whole world


Washington is used to talking with other countries from the standpoint of the "exclusivity" of the United States. Therefore, it is not surprising how Clark Cooper, the assistant to the head of the US State Department on military-political affairs (questions), spoke out in relation to Turkey (NATO ally).


Cooper said sanctions against Ankara have not been “technically introduced yet,” but one should not think that the purchase of the Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems (ADSs) “got away with it”. The American official clarified that the provisions of the CAATSA Sanctions Act (Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, "On Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions") "still apply" to Turkey. Just for now, "there are no clear deadlines for imposing sanctions."

Cooper added that Turkey “has an ever-narrowing time gap” to address this issue. An employee of the US State Department recalled and at the same time emphasized that Ankara was “immediately expelled from the F-35 program” immediately after it bought the S-400 from Russia.

Cooper believes that the “lesson” for other countries is more than visual. After all, it does not consist in “that Turkey got away with everything”, but in “what exactly it has lost and can still lose” in the future.

It must be recalled that Ankara still does not succumb to pressure from Washington and continues to defend its national interests. The Turks are not going to abandon the S-400. Moreover, they want to expand cooperation with Moscow.
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  1. beeper Offline
    beeper 16 January 2020 13: 58
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    Realistic Turks understand well that, according to the current world scenario, their own strong air defense (equipped with the best Russian S-400s) is much more important for the country's defense than very dubious (and even furnished with a whole bunch of ultimatum requirements from the outside, - capricious and such "proudly vulnerable", mega-touchy overseas "benefactors"!) American "F-35 program!" winked
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 16 January 2020 14: 21
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      beeper
      Did you try to use the S-400 in combat at least once? Maybe only after that it is possible to understand whether it is “best”?
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 16 January 2020 14: 40
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        Did you try to use the S-400 in combat at least once? Maybe only after that it is possible to understand whether it is “best”?

        To understand which is better is possible only in comparison. You can compare, for example, with Patriot, as they showed themselves in Saudi Arabia, everyone in the know, there was a chance to restore a reputation in Iraq ...... so, against this background SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER hi
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 16 January 2020 14: 52
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          It is clear that "faith does not require evidence." Patriots, at least somehow, showed. How did the S-400 prove to be? So far, nothing at all. By the way, do not repeat again about the Patriots in Iraq. They simply were not there !!! How many times can this be repeated. But there was a TOP in Tehran.
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 16 January 2020 15: 00
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            It is clear that "faith does not require evidence." Patriots, at least somehow, showed.

            It would be better than nothing.

            How did the S-400 prove to be? So far, nothing at all.

            Why, fly in the area of ​​coverage of S-400 willing on the horizon is not visible. This is an indicator.

            By the way, do not repeat again about the Patriots in Iraq. They simply were not there !!!

            And why? In view of the complete futility? Military bases are fired by rockets, but air defense is not there ...

            But there was a TOP in Tehran.

            From a technical point of view, it worked flawlessly. Another thing is who and where directed him.
            1. Arkharov Offline
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 16 January 2020 15: 06
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              Well, it seems, it’s not very perfect: the Boeing’s signature is completely different, not to mention the area of ​​the reflecting surface, in comparison, for example, with a cruise missile. Of course, it was possible to send him by force. But why then should such completely "crooked-armed users" give such a weapon? !!
              1. 123 Offline
                123 (123) 16 January 2020 15: 43
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                Well, it seems, it’s not very perfect: the Boeing’s signature is completely different, not to mention the area of ​​the reflecting surface, in comparison, for example, with a cruise missile. Of course, it was possible to send him by force. But why then should such completely "crooked-armed users" give such a weapon? !!

                These are all questions for the organization of an air defense system. The complex itself worked without problems. But why give a crooked-arm, an interesting question.

                On July 3, 1988, an Airbus A300B2-203 airliner flew from Tehran, the capital of Iran .... Cruiser commander William Rogers mistook the liner for an attacking Iranian fighter and decided to destroy the target ...... Although the US government expressed condolences for the death people, calling the incident a terrible human tragedy, officially it did not plead guilty. A popular illustration of this is the statement by US Vice President George W. Bush: "I will never apologize for the United States, in spite of any facts."

                What to do with these crooked hands? Is this possible?
                1. Arkharov Offline
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 16 January 2020 18: 04
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                  We figured out these 30 years ago.
                  1. 123 Offline
                    123 (123) 16 January 2020 18: 30
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                    We figured out these 30 years ago.

                    True? Who and how?
                    Or just understand and forgive?
                    1. beeper Offline
                      beeper 17 January 2020 00: 55
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                      How did you figure it out ?!
                      Bush Senior rewarded Vincennes cruiser commander for a successful shot at an Iranian airliner!
                      Is it possible to declare “sanctions” to ourselves or to raise the high for the whole world ?! American "double standards policy" in action! wassat
                      1. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 17 January 2020 07: 38
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                        American "double standards policy" in action!

                        So I am about the same. The actions are similar, like two drops of water, but some are understood and forgiven, while others are hung on a birch. "Holy Impartiality." laughing
        2. Nikolaevich I Offline
          Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 17 January 2020 16: 05
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          Ruining people is not beer! Water is killing people! ...

          There is no certainty whether the Saudis ... whether the Iraqis, having received the S-300/400, would have shot down all the airborne “threats”! negative
      2. S.V.YU Offline
        S.V.YU 16 January 2020 18: 21
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        Arkharov, do not juggle like a small sharpie! Can’t you decide to play along with your overseas “breadwinners”? Aren't you disgusted? Or grants don't smell?
      3. Alekcandr Sokolenko (Alekcandr Sokolenko) 17 January 2020 06: 03
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        There can be no absolute defense systems in nature, even an attack is not an absolute system and at the same time, but only complete ... one might think that one can fight off a mass attack by various means and in all directions, and not to say anything stupid: the USSR helped the Army to resist? - this we have not yet lived to the truth, although only the blind can not see it.
  2. cmonman Offline
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 16 January 2020 14: 36
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    Turkey manufactures parts for the F-35 at $ 2 billion a year. The United States has already found the country (s) where production will go. The move was scheduled for March, but gave Turkey a deadline until the end of the code.
    By the way, about 400 Turkish pilots who studied in the USA on the F-35 were jailed for “participating in the rebellion”. So there is no one to fly.
    1. S.V.YU Offline
      S.V.YU 16 January 2020 18: 24
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      And here you are REALLY!
  3. Something I don’t see a lesson - rather, the Turks taught the Doodles a lesson that the Yankees are now no one and there’s no way to call them!
  4. Ivan Valov Offline
    Ivan Valov (Ivan Valov) 16 January 2020 21: 23
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    American systems did not help Arabs and Turks did not help, this is a guarantee! The 400 works better than expected. China has tested other buyers as well.
    1. g1washntwn Offline
      g1washntwn (George Washington) 17 January 2020 08: 58
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      Hindus drove in the tail and mane. And to please these customers - it is VERY hard to try to provide the perfect product for landfills. In addition, they are traditionally big lovers to complicate the test program, so there were no easy conditions for the S-400. 5 regiment sets for India - this is an indicator more important than the Chinese.
  5. trahterist Offline
    trahterist (Elmars) 19 January 2020 20: 10
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    Quote: Arkharov
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    Well, it seems, it’s not very perfect: the Boeing’s signature is completely different, not to mention the area of ​​the reflecting surface, in comparison, for example, with a cruise missile. Of course, it was possible to send him by force. But why then should such completely "crooked-armed users" give such a weapon? !!

    When it "seems" - you have to be baptized! (although then it seems even more).
    About the technical part you have already clearly explained above.
  6. duchy Offline
    duchy (Salih) 21 January 2020 18: 35
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    The Turks in this respect fellows, abandoned flying scrap metal, saved a lot of money and their nerves.