Special operation "Ukrainian Boeing": Russia will have to answer for the downed plane


In truth, in recent days, when reading articles on the US-Iranian confrontation, published in various media, I was swept a bit. Some people continue (apparently by inertia) to repeat about some "blows" allegedly inflicted on the "imperial ambitions" of the USA, about their collapse "policy interventionism ”and the like. By the way, this is not only about domestic publications - there, French colleagues from Le Monde himself noted such a brave ode to the "victory of Tehran" that where our Kremlin mouthpieces take it ...


I'd like to ask: do you really don’t understand what is really happening right now, before our eyes ?! Alas, if we consider the situation in the Middle East with an open mind, consistently and at least with a minimum of objectivity, we have to admit: the game launched in Washington was a success. Moreover - now we are only observing its successful beginning. And will it still be ...

And Boeing all fall and fall ...


Strictly speaking, the firm conviction that the tragedy with the UIA plane crashed at Tehran’s international airport is nothing more than a brilliantly conducted operation of the special services, it is clear which country, which largely repeats the story of the Malaysian MH-17, has not left since the news of the crash . More than a strange recognition of Iran in the "unintentional" defeat of the airliner by an anti-aircraft missile (or missiles), such confidence was not only not destroyed, but strengthened a hundredfold. This is - if we consider the incident in conjunction with all other events, both preceding it and subsequent. The shelling of American bases is senseless and very sparing ... Immediately, as if on command (like ?!), riots broke out in Iran, their ultimate goal having no less than a change of power in the country. And, in particular, a touching and extremely timely appeal to Donald Trump’s “Maidan” there, containing a Farsi text: “Guys, I’m with you!” No sir, of course, no one prepared anything in advance! These are, so to speak, major milestones. But in general, if you “untwist” the chain of events from the very beginning, everything looks even more dirty: the United States with jewelery accuracy will eliminate a prominent Iranian political and military leader, who in his homeland was quite a splinter for many as by virtue of her own, irreconcilable and non-conformist views and actions, and because of more than extensive connections and opportunities. And then the uniform circus begins!

The missile strike on American bases in Iraq, perceived by many as a precedent for confronting the "world hegemon", ultimately turns out to be a natural "agreement." In any case, today the Pentagon representatives mockingly tell the whole world that they knew perfectly well about the upcoming “retaliation” of the business hours two and a half before it “collapsed” on them and managed to perfectly settle in comfortable bunkers in anticipation of the show. But just after that, the Ukrainian plane was crashing from the sky ... Iranian fighters, who were not able to inflict any significant damage on the American warriors, send two hundred people from almost all over the world in one fell swoop, "confusing" passenger plane with a cruise missile. Do you believe that ?! Well, your business ... But who said that a special operation, as a result of which well-defined military-political goals are achieved at the cost of destroying a civilian aircraft, must certainly be carried out by hijacking it, or, say, by detonating it with a predetermined charge or device? It would be a well-conducted operation. And here it is - with a missile, moreover, with a “necessary” missile in this situation ... Here we are already dealing with the aerobatics of a secret war, with a special operation organized perfectly. And even with a plus. All the tasks set have been achieved, and the United States, believe me, has just begun to realize the enormous benefits received from this combination. The most interesting is ahead.

East is a vile thing ...


So to paraphrase the favorite saying of the cinematic Red Army Sukhov, there is a strong suspicion that the threads of all the bloody and heinous action that we are observing do not extend to Washington alone. No, of course, the main puppeteers are there. But without the “puppets” obedient to him in Iran (and not only), all that had happened would never have been possible. We leave aside the purely technical oddities and inconsistencies regarding the incident with the Ukrainian plane. It seems “suddenly”, at the most necessary moment of the “missing” connection and professional qualities of the air defense soldiers who “did not make out” the difference between Boeing and Tomahawk. As well as completely inexplicable details such as obtaining a UIA airliner permission to take off in a situation where the sky of Iran should have been "cleared" of any potential random targets to the maximum ... Most likely, you need to look in a completely different direction. The one who carried out the launch knew very well who the rocket would hit - didn’t it occur to you? Alas, almost any person can be ironically motivated if necessary: ​​not to buy, so to intimidate, blackmail the lives of relatives, in the end. Is this unbelievable? Why, then! No less incredible, at least, than the distinctive “strings” that stretched from the Turkish military, guilty of a deadly attack on our Su-24 in the skies of Syria, to the participants in the “Gulen” conspiracy, which, again, was again a clear US special operation. Well, absolutely unbelievers are invited to simply recall the events in Iraq.

The American General Tommy Franks, who led all the coalition forces at the first stage of the invasion of this country, admitted without any hesitation: the United States simply bought the victory in this war. The “coolest” Yankees in this campaign were not paratroopers or seals, but groups that came into contact with Saddam's generals and offered them millions of bribes. After that, according to Franks, letters were sent to him in which these "die-hard fighters against American imperialism" swore eternal allegiance to the United States. And they surrendered the country, bastards! Almost without a single shot, given that, according to many military experts, the capture of Baghdad could have become a real Stalingrad for the American occupiers. Alas, the postulate that in the East any fortress will inevitably fall if the assault weapon, loaded with gold, was fair at all times and has not lost its truth today. It is very likely that someone in Iran, having decided to play some “undercover games” with Washington, simply overestimated himself and strongly underestimated the overseas “partners”. By the way, the “mopping up” of war leaders that have become uncomfortable for some continues under the guise: on January 11 in Iraq’s Karbala, the leader of the People’s Mobilization Forces, Taleb Abbas Ali al-Saedi, who was the closest associate of the deceased along with Kassem Suleimani Abu Mahdi al, was killed -Muhandisa. Without any Americans, mind you. Raging on the streets of Baghdad shouting “Down with the regime!”, “Death to the dictator!” and "We are now one!" (well, yes - “all at once bagato us”, “get gang” ...) the crowds simply were not “registered” in the original arrangement. But when did the US conclude such transactions without a double bottom and, moreover, honestly carried them out?

Russia will have to disentangle


The fact that the whole pile of unpleasant consequences of the bedlam which is happening now in the Middle East is awaiting just our country, there is no doubt at all. What will happen if the Maidan in Baghdad succeeds (and, unfortunately, there is every chance of it) and pro-American forces come to power in the country, I don’t even want to think. I will not get involved in historical parallels, but they are full. Those who wish can independently google, fortunately, there is plenty of material about the times when Iran was a country for us, to put it mildly, unfriendly. We add to this the enormous likelihood of a resurgence of ISIS or the emergence of a new, similar and no less “frostbitten” whole-head company - if in Iran there will already be a complete tear. But all this is still probabilities. But what is a completely inevitable and very lousy prospect is a powerful attack on Russian arms exports. Moreover, it will strike at its most successful segment - air defense systems. Here, some are discussing the wonderful prospects of "Iraq acquiring our S-400 air defense systems" ... They will now buy the bald line, not our Triumphs, after such a "successful" use of the Torah by their closest neighbors. Half of the Western media is already discussing the theme of “monkeys with a grenade,” stressfully stressing that the ill-fated Boeing was shot down precisely by a Russian rocket. Russian, Russian, Russian! After that, I won’t be surprised if in the very near future Washington will seriously raise the question of the embargo on the supply of any Russian anti-aircraft missile systems abroad.

Argumentation? It is crystal clear: “You look, to whom they give them in hands! To some terrorists ... ”Yes, plus“ authoritative experts ”will declare the same“ Torahs ”“ unreliable ”and dangerous. Iranians, in order to save the remnants of their own reputation, may well try to push the blame on machinerywhich "failed". Support for the ban on the supply of our air defense systems to anywhere in general from, at least, Canada and the UK, is guaranteed a little more than 100%. What will we do then? The worst thing in the events of recent days is that they turned everything that happened earlier upside down, completely reversed the “polarity” of the forces involved in the conflict. How now to argue with Trump, who declared the IRGC a “terrorist organization” - after the death of almost two hundred people from their rocket? Well, let's say that not only we understand the true background. Like there: “we know, the Germans know ...” But according to the rules and laws of Big Geopolitics, Iran was not something in a puddle - in a bottomless abyss. The United States inflicted more damage to Tehran with a single missile launched by its own air defense than if it had "ironed" this country with bombing and Tomahawks for several weeks or even months. Announced by the State Department, "full diplomatic and economic blockade ”of Iran is now unlikely to meet at least someone's condemnation and, especially, resistance. And here's another thing - if someone really hopes that the Americans will get out of Iraq, now you can forget about that. More than Washington’s unequivocal threats of blocking all accounts of Baghdad, coupled with the flames of a new war of all against all there, is a guarantee.

One has to admit - the United States not only masterfully seized the initiative in a hopelessly seemingly lost confrontation. They more than convincingly demonstrated to the whole world their readiness to further defend their position as a “world hegemon”, using all the same, many times tried and tested tools: eliminating objectionable leaders, bribing and terror, organizing “color revolutions”. Who has already taken a breath - they say the threat of war has passed? Do not build illusions - most likely, everything is just beginning ...
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 13 January 2020 09: 34
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    We started with the “crooked-handed” Iran to “translate the arrows”, lead aside and “blur” the issue.

    Raging on the streets of Baghdad shouting “Down with the regime!”, “Death to the dictator!” and "We are now one!" (well, yes - “we are at once bagato”, “get gang” ...) the crowds simply were not “registered” in the original arrangement.

    - and the author does not provide such an opportunity that people are just tired of this?
  2. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 13 January 2020 10: 20
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    Traitors were, are and will be at all times! Therefore, a downed passenger plane and a warning to the Americans about the strike, this is also accepted. But air defense systems? If not Russian to buy, then whose? American or something that has already worked twice for zero? If you are so consistent, do you yourself believe in that? Now looking through the news. In Iraq, an American base of mortars was fired. And this does not fit into the logic of the article.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 14 January 2020 06: 41
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      "Super Duper". Thor could not distinguish the signature of a civilian Boeing from a cruise missile !!!!? Despite the fact that due to the huge difference in the sizes of the Boeing and the cruise missile, even the power of the reflected signal is significantly different.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 14 January 2020 22: 23
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        What distinguishes himself is Thor, or the one who sits behind him? How do you want to expose, convict and something else from the same series. laughing
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 January 2020 10: 02
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          321
          Then why should such "skillful users" sell such a complex and wonderful weapon? There is more than one case.
          1. 321 Offline
            321 (321) 15 January 2020 10: 23
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            Before you look for a speck in a stranger's eye, first remove the log from your eye - in Google look for who and how carries the database in the USA, and in strategic forces ...
            This is not air defense, it is much more serious.
            1. Arkharov Offline
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 January 2020 11: 08
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              321
              All these stories, as well as many other things that allegedly take place and are taken from foreign media, were invented and distributed by 80-90% and distributed by all kinds of "Lakhta-Olgiev" Internet trash.
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) 15 January 2020 14: 11
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                Quote: Arkharov
                321
                All these stories, as well as many other things that supposedly take place and are taken from foreign media, were invented and distributed by 80-90% of all kinds of "Lakhta-Olgiev" Internet trash.

                The other was not specifically expected from you, continue, you only confirm your very peculiar reputation, which you ALREADY have developed ... hi
                And foreign media at least occasionally browseI say right away - you’ll do the searches yourself, you should not expect “gifts” from me - You still have not studied the book of the Finnish professor, only seven hundred or more pages. bully hi
                1. Arkharov Offline
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 January 2020 14: 35
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                  321 ... you only confirm your very peculiar reputation, which you ALREADY have developed ..

                  “Do you seriously think that it even worries me in the slightest degree?” Do I really not understand the local audience? If they started to give me a lot of advantages here, I first thought that something very bad happened to my worldview.
                  1. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) 15 January 2020 14: 46
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                    Quote: Arkharov
                    ... - do you seriously think that it at least in the slightest degree excites me? Do I really not understand the local audience? If they started to give me a lot of advantages here, I first thought that something very bad happened to my worldview.

                    Clearly, you definitely won’t search or read any information - well, this is your choice. bully
                    1. Arkharov Offline
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 January 2020 14: 50
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                      Sorry, but yours and your sources are definitely not. Although I sometimes, for general development, read very gloomy resources. It happens, even, and the newspaper Tomorrow !!!! The only thing that is completely taboo is Solovyov’s “shit show”, he tried a couple of times, 30 seconds is the maximum limit, relatively safe for the human psyche.
                      1. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) 15 January 2020 15: 10
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                        Go back a little

                        И Foreign media at least occasionally browse, I say right away - you will be engaged in the searches yourself, you should not expect “gifts” from me ...

                        - I wrote to you about foreign media, so speaking in a very common language, you didn’t succeed bully
                      2. Arkharov Offline
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 15 January 2020 16: 52
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                        321
                        I didn’t understand anything that you wrote, probably, goodbye, to all garbage, in the form of aimless correspondence, I don’t have much time.
                      3. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) 15 January 2020 16: 56
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                        Quote: Arkharov
                        321
                        I didn’t understand what you wrote
                        probably goodbye, to all garbage, in the form of aimless correspondence, I don’t have much time

                        Read you, so I'm almost everything Foreign media, about which I wrote to you earlier, directly made me dance to my pipe. laughing
                        And if you are NOT able to understand the meaning of what you wrote, then this is definitely NOT my problem, but you will answer, or you won’t - I don’t care, garbage is diverse to you, and not only to you, it just won’t work out ... hi
  3. sgrabik Offline
    sgrabik (Sergei) 15 January 2020 09: 05
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    And what does the equipment have to do with it, it still needs to professionally and competently manage what you have for ridiculous and idiotic conclusions, to praise everything western and to blame everything ours, double standards, this is a typical American approach to everything where you are not profitable - you are lying impudently, and where it is profitable, unjustifiably extol to heaven.
  4. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 17 January 2020 17: 51
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    I remember the latest vaunted American Aegis was unable to distinguish a combat fighter from a civilian Boeing and the Americans shot down a civilian Boeing ...
  • Oleg Rambover Offline
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 13 January 2020 10: 30
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    Paranoia. Why are the crowds on the streets of Baghdad? In Baghdad, and so the pro-American government. And about ISIS in Iran .... the author of this statement showed his complete ignorance of local realities.
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    Jar.serge (Reznik) 13 January 2020 10: 44
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    What is there to talk about? Favorite feature of the Yankees - to fill up the civilian side and topple on his enemy, "killing" with a few "hares." Ukraine, as always, is for the interests of the United States until the last Ukrainian. It is clear that UIA was not the only civilian aircraft in the sky of Iran.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 13 January 2020 11: 55
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      Jar.serge
      Those. you, even complete nonsense, when no one in the world doubts the meaning of what happened, continue to defend ?! In what, even in the most fantastic way, could this happen? What is one scenario? Perhaps such a position may already be of interest to certain specialists?
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        Jar.serge (Reznik) 13 January 2020 17: 02
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        In the American world, no one ever doubts .... the opinion of the owner. And, by the way, we are ready to approve any nonsense that has fallen from under the American tail. And I'd rather wait for the conclusion and conclusions of the commission.
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        Jar.serge (Reznik) 13 January 2020 17: 26
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        So far there are no answers to these questions, to talk about (when no one doubts in the world) and in general, if “everyone knows”, this is at least alarming:
        - why did the Ukrainian board fly at all (other companies stopped flights in anticipation of the war);
        - Where is the data of radar control of the Iranian air defense field?
        - where are the satellite data on the launch of an anti-aircraft missile? (She's not invisible. Where are the daily satellite intelligence data?)
        - where are the photos of large fragments of a Boeing with characteristic traces of the impact of certain striking elements of a certain type of warhead of a particular missile of a certain complex? (What traces, what damaging elements, which warhead, which missile, which complex?)
        - How was the type of rocket installed without studying the wreckage of the aircraft? By flash in the night sky?
        - by whom, how and when was the launcher position established? Where's the radar? Where is the whole complex now?
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 13 January 2020 17: 50
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          This is just one of the crimes of the Iranian authorities - not the closure of airspace. And about the Ukrainian side you are past, Aeroflot is still flying !!! And the debris from 9M331 immediately showed that you won’t be mistaken, and it tears off the head part very characteristically. And the wreckage of the plane itself was found with traces of hits:
          MONOGUE OF MEMBER OF UKRAINIAN COMMISSION FROM IRAN

          ... The intrigue lasted until late. The fact is that there were no damages on most parts of the aircraft. There was no explosion or fire in either the engines or the wings. It is possible that the plane could fall almost intact. Unlike the remains of the Boeing MN-17, there were no immediately visible signs of defeat by combat elements on the fuselage and wings. A lot of damage to the case is the result of a fall. But after laying out all the fragments of the plane, it became obvious that the bottom of the cockpit was missing.
          Among the wreckage, fragments of the upper part of the cabin were identified. And then, finally, the find took place - at about 22 hours (probably January 10). On a fragment of the cockpit, we found holes in the striking elements of a combat missile that pierced the skin. We found! For the first time, direct evidence appeared in this case, which made it possible to prove what caused the death of the aircraft. For us it was a turning point.

          There are probably answers to your other questions, but no one is obligated to present them to us.
          1. Jar.serge Offline
            Jar.serge (Reznik) 13 January 2020 19: 12
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            Sorry, you are repeating praise and verbiage for unprofessional commentators and journalists, in short, pouring water without facts. There are answers to my questions and they will be required. Only in your writings is there one water and no texture, retelling-redistribution from the panic messages of pro-American mongrel.
      3. sgrabik Offline
        sgrabik (Sergei) 15 January 2020 09: 11
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov), this is not nonsense, but it’s just one of the very real versions of what happened, you are just a sick fanatic, if you immediately notice on the fly what could have taken place.
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    Bulanov (Vladimir) 13 January 2020 11: 14
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    The fact that they shot down a Russian-made rocket, as some now claim, may mean that these missiles can shoot down, not yawn, like the American ones when they raided the Saudi oil refineries. Based on this logic, a Mercedes car killed Princess Diana and it is extremely dangerous to drive brands of these cars!
    As for terrorism, the IRGC - the Pentagon also shot down an Iranian passenger plane, after which it was declared a terrorist organization.
    And, by the way, on the Ukrainian Boeing, the Americans quite calmly could remotely turn off important navigation equipment. Ukrainians, like Malaysians, do not mind America.
    And as for the permanent settlement of the States in Iraq - so they settled in Vietnam. If Muslims are no less belligerent than the Vietnamese, then they can arrange a second Vietnam for the States, and then they will quickly dump them from there, well, if they are not as tough as the Vietnamese, then let them tolerate the great white gentleman ...
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    Tektor (Tektor) 13 January 2020 14: 32
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    I suppose that after takeoff, Boeing’s control was seized by the British intelligence, and Boeing wanted to hammer something in Iran a la twin towers. But the Boeing, instead of a straightforward, as always, course toward Kiev, began to describe the arc characteristic of cruise missiles that hit a target. Well, they recognized him that way ... And they shot him down.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 13 January 2020 17: 06
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      Tektor
      Again, irony, are you mocking visitors to the site? But now, at least crazy, but some idea, and then from Jar.serge I have not achieved anything concrete. Who next will practice fierce conspiracy theories? Only in more detail, with the script and characters, to take for the soul.
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) 13 January 2020 19: 15
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        Quote: Arkharov
        ... Who next will practice fierce conspiracy theories? Only in more detail, with the script and characters, to take for the soul.

        The question has now appeared - have you already paid for your acquaintance with the script? At present, the scenario of a lot of money can cost ...
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      Nick (Nikolai) 13 January 2020 19: 16
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      Quote: Tektor
      I suppose that after takeoff, Boeing’s control was seized by the British intelligence, and Boeing wanted to hammer something in Iran a la twin towers. But Boeing, instead of a straightforward, as always, course towards Kiev, began to describe the arc.

      And probably the transponder was intentionally disabled.
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    lytboris (Boris Lytkin) 13 January 2020 18: 26
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    By the way, the IRGC was declared a terrorist organization by the United States before the disaster. (The United States entered the IRGC in the list of terrorist organizations 16.04.2019, 09:58). This alone proves that the author is delirious.
  • Nick Offline
    Nick (Nikolai) 13 January 2020 19: 12
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    The article is a set of conclusions, in my opinion, unduly drawn to facts, but, as one of the versions, is quite possible.
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    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 14 January 2020 03: 55
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    In any case, today the Pentagon representatives mockingly tell the whole world that they knew perfectly well about the upcoming “retaliation” of the business hours two and a half before it “collapsed” on them and managed to perfectly settle in comfortable bunkers in anticipation of the show.

    Author, please translate from Russian into Russian, the use of the word “mocking” - in what context? And for what intonation?
    Okay, let’s leave you ...
    But in one thing you are right: Russia will have to answer for the downed plane. And that's why:

    The Americans showed. Who is the head in this house
    An Iranian missile that shot down a Ukrainian plane undermined Russia's credibility in the Middle East.

    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/01/13/83434-amerikantsy-pokazali-kto-v-dome-hozyain

    ... The liquidation of Suleymani has a sobering effect not only on Russia, but also on other regional actors. The myth that the Russians ousted the Amers from the Middle East, that nothing happens there without the knowledge of Russia, vanished overnight. The United States did not even make an attack on its embassy on the Security Council, but ... simply eliminated one of the ... organizers. This means that the Americans, as before, will act in the region in their own interests and without the knowledge of Russia. They showed who is the boss in the house.
    Therefore, the fact that Russia plays the role of the first violin in Syria does not mean its increased power, but, most likely, the lack of attention to Syria in the United States. Remember how Trump commented on Russia's assistance to the Syrian authorities? “There's a lot of sand that they can play.”

    Alexander, do not read this article, your health is dear to me - I am philanthropic.
    1. 321 Offline
      321 (321) 14 January 2020 15: 36
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      Quote: cmonman
      .The Americans showed who is the boss in the house
      An Iranian missile that shot down a Ukrainian plane undermined Russia's credibility in the Middle East.

      https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/01/13/83434-amerikantsy-pokazali-kto-v-dome-hozyain...

      One thing you can agree with - the article from THIS "source" is definitely not worth reading, only NOT for your reasons, or whatever humanity, or vice versa - there were times when the very release of a new issue of NG was looking forward to I found out from the one who worked there, where does this publication get the money from, but the postulate "who eats the girl, dances her," while no one has canceled, do you make your own conclusions?

      Quote: cmonman
      ... But in one thing you are right: Russia will have to answer for the downed plane ...

      Commenting on your dreams is about your “answer”, but you already wrote about your “source”, eat this “information” yourself. hi
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        cmonman (Garik Mokin) 15 January 2020 03: 09
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        ... there were times when the very release of the new issue of NG waited impatiently until it found out from the one who worked there, from where this publication received funds ...

        Understand!

        How could NG, for $$$ (!), Print SUCH what millions of readers liked? It’s better to read publications that work for rubles, although they have such info ... that after reading even a sweet compote does not help, it's so disgusting ...

        Bravo, 321, I like your logic!
        1. 321 Offline
          321 (321) 15 January 2020 06: 23
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          Hmm, and it has not even crossed your mind yet that you can NOT watch TV and "... publications that work for rubles ..." practically do not read, as there, - "... Bravo, ..., I like your logic! "(c) hi
          And as for the millions - before, I had to “leave” the rooms, book, etc., now they are free, even though they are lying around - I periodically drop in stalls ...
          PS I removed the soft sign, although this is a quote bully
          PPS Do you like compote so much? bully
          1. cmonman Offline
            cmonman (Garik Mokin) 15 January 2020 14: 29
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            Thank you for the soft sign. Cranberry compote, in winter - I love. smile
            See you on the site ...!