Zelensky reacted to Iran's recognition of guilt in the crash of the Boeing

January 11 2020 27

The reaction of the Ukrainian leadership to Iran’s plea of guilty to the crash of a passenger liner of Ukraine’s International Airlines became known.

On his Facebook page, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky listed the demands that Kiev puts forward to Tehran: full admission of guilt, assurances of readiness to conduct a full and open investigation, holding those responsible accountable, returning the bodies of dead Ukrainians, paying compensation, and apologizing for diplomatic channels.

Also, the Ukrainian leader expressed hope for the speed and objectivity of the investigation, as well as for the admission of Ukrainian experts:

We hope that further investigation will be conducted without artificial delays and barriers. Our 45 professionals must receive full access and interaction to establish justice.

Earlier, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on his Twitter page expressed condolences to the families of the victims and said that they would receive compensation.

Rouhani called the strike on the plane “an unforgivable mistake” that led to the deaths.

In conclusion, it should be noted that in this case Tehran acted in accordance with international practice adopted in such cases, which demonstrated its commitment to follow in line with international rules.

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steelmaker

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11 January 2020 12: 02

Only honest and correct people can admit their mistakes and guilt. No wonder the priests say: "REPENT!" But Zelensky, as the head of state, believes that he can only "let go of sins." Iran once admitted guilt - WILL PAY. I have no doubt about that.
commbatant

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11 January 2020 12: 18

In the place of Iran, I would act in relation to Ukrainian citizens in the same way as Ukraine in relation to relatives of passengers of the downed Tu-154 APU over the Black Sea ...
1. Arkharov
  
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  11 January 2020 12: 33
  
  commbatant
  Please explain here how Ukraine did then? Can be more? Very interesting, what did you mean?
  1. commbatant
    
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    11 January 2020 12: 49
    
    Quote: Arkharov
    Please explain here how Ukraine did then? Can be more? Very interesting, what did you mean?
    
    Have you been banned in Google?
    
    Ukraine is doing everything possible to delay the payment of compensation to relatives of victims of the Ukrainian rocket, which shot down a passenger plane of a Russian airline in October 2001.
    Leonid Kuchma has demonstrated that he has his own opinion about the reputation of the country, of which he was honored to be. On October 10, 2001, he publicly announced that the version about the death of the Tu-154 from a Ukrainian missile would not damage the international reputation of the state, since “this happened not only in Ukraine ... Look around, in the world, in Europe - we are not the first or the last. Mistakes are everywhere, "Kuchma remarked conciliatoryly..
    The Ukrainian side did not want to admit for a long time that it had conducted exercises in this area, not to mention launching the ill-fated S-200 in the direction of the Russian aircraft, and in the end, reluctantly had to do this under the pressure of irrefutable evidence. Moreover, the immediate culprits of the disaster - the Ukrainian military - have long resisted the obvious, arguing that nothing has been proved. So, on October 26, Ukrainian Prime Minister Anatoly Kinakh was even forced to refute his Minister of Defense, who said that Ukraine allegedly did not consider itself obligated to compensate for all damage caused to the Russian side as a result of the death of the airliner. Already the first consultations opened between Ukraine and Israel (recall once again, most of the dead on board the TU-154 were Israeli citizens) showed that the country that shot down the passenger plane of another sovereign state expects to get off with about the same amount as the unlucky motorist pays who crumpled an expensive foreign car on Moscow streets. According to the Advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister Alan Geller, who announced the details of the negotiations in early December 2001, the relatives of the victims should have received from Ukraine about one and a half thousand dollars.
    
    https://lenta.ru/articles/2002/12/03/ukraine/
    
    In relation to the dead Russians, the Russian Federation then saved Ukraine from larger expenses ... spitting on its own citizens ...
    
    The Tu-154 of the Russian Siberia Airlines en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk was shot down on October 4, 2001 by a Ukrainian S-200 missile fired during an air defense exercise in Crimea. The crash killed 78 people - 66 passengers (mostly Israeli citizens) and 12 crew members (Russian citizens).
    The amount for each specific recipient will be determined by the Russian side. The agreement notes that Ukraine, its bodies, officials and state legal entities "are not liable in connection with the calculation of settlement amounts" for recipients.
    At the same time, a potential recipient of assistance who does not recognize the satisfaction of claims and claims may lose his part of the compensation at all if he does not accept a share of the settlement amount during the year. In this case, the Russian side returns to Ukraine an appropriate share of compensation.
    The agreement provides that the Russian side does not make any claims or claims against Ukraine.
    
    https://korrespondent.net/business/109332-ukraina-vyplatila-rossii-kompensaciyu-za-sbityj-tu-154
    
    Arkharov
    You again amaze me, then many Israeli Jews perished, but you do not know, or, as usual, "turn on the stupid" (which may not be approved by your Masters).
    1. Arkharov
      
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      11 January 2020 13: 20
      
      And what, did not pay? Do you even know what the teachings were?
      1. commbatant
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 30
        
        Quote: Arkharov
        And what, did not pay? Do you even know what the teachings were?
        
        And what does this have to do with delaying the compensation process? Or, following your logic, Iran can also refer to the teachings, they have t.s. There will be more excuses when explaining the reasons for the error in calculating the air defense systems ...
        
        Arkharov
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 36
        
        commbatant
        They have no excuses. Knowing, with great probability, a possible retaliation, not closing the space is a crime.
        
        commbatant
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 44
        
        Quote: Arkharov
        commbatant They have no excuses. Knowing, with great probability, a possible retaliation, not closing the space is a crime.
        
        They did not do what Ukraine once was in 2014 ... so Zelensky would generally be silent ...
        In addition, there are questions to the Ukrainian airline, which, unlike Western airlines, has not canceled flights to and from Iran ...
        
        Arkharov
        
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        11 January 2020 14: 07
        
        commbatant
        Do you know that Aeroflot aircraft, flight SU 512, are still flying? So, that is completely past !!! In milk !!!!
        
        commbatant
        
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        11 January 2020 15: 29
        
        Quote: Arkharov
        commbatant
        Do you know that Aeroflot aircraft, flight SU 512, are still flying? So - just past !!! In milk !!!!
        
        Well why by? IRI also did not close the sky over its country, as Ukraine once did not close the sky over Donbass ...
        And why do you compare Ukrainian airlines with Russian, and not with Western? It seemed to me (and the Ukrainian leadership is constantly talking about this) that Ukraine is striving for the EU, and not the EAC?
        
        123
        
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        12 January 2020 20: 53
        
        Everything is painted correctly and laid out on shelves. If you don't mind, I will add my "5 kopecks", flights of a number of Russian airlines "Russia", "S7", "Ural Airlines" have been redirected bypassing Iran and Iraq. As for the rest ...
        
        The Federal Air Transport Agency recommended that Russian airlines do not fly over Iraq, Iran, the Persian and Oman gulfs.
        
        https://rg.ru/2020/01/08/aviakompanii-priostanavlivaiut-polety-nad-iranom.html
        https://iz.ru/962067/2020-01-08/krupneishie-aviakompanii-priostanovili-polety-nad-iranom
    2. Arkharov
      
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      11 January 2020 13: 40
      
      commbatant
      It is also especially touching that you write with a capital letter about my "owners". You probably respect them more than I should have respected them?
      1. commbatant
        
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        11 January 2020 14: 12
        
        Quote: Arkharov
        commbatant It is also especially touching that you write with a capital letter about my "owners". You probably respect them more than I should have respected them?
        
        Not at all. But I'm glad that you recognized them. Maybe they won’t beat you much, for your clumsy work on this site, I decided to appease them .... nevertheless sometimes you do not always write anti-Soviet things ...
        
        Arkharov
        
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        11 January 2020 14: 24
        
        commbatant
        There are anti-Soviet, never anti-Russian (although we sometimes disagree on what is useful for the country). And I will tell "them" greetings from you, I can even put in a word for you. Just drop the address of "them", who do you mean, I have so many of them, I got lost with the account and finally got confused. Probably a joke .... And by the way, why clumsy work? When have I ever been wrong? Clumsy, this is actually you, three days of proving about the "wooden parts" on board the Boeing, "8000000 dead" from the empty Iranian shelling, etc.
        
        commbatant
        
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        11 January 2020 15: 26
        
        Quote: Arkharov
        Clumsy, this is actually you, three days of proving about the "wooden parts" on board the Boeing, "8000000 dead" from the empty Iranian shelling, etc.
        
        ... you confuse me with someone, I never wrote anything like this ....
Arkharov

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11 January 2020 12: 19

Zelensky well done. He behaved very carefully, correctly, without any tantrums. He passed the next difficult exam for an already quite mature and promising politician. Especially in comparison.
1. boriz
  
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  11 January 2020 13: 09
  
  Well done, it's Rouhani. The man!
  And what about Zelensky? It’s good, at least, it was enough to not make claims that Iran’s airspace was not closed. These could.
  Our downed Tu-154 was not recognized for six months. For our passengers they paid $ 200 each, and for the Israeli passengers - $ 000 million. And then, they agreed to pay us only after TWO YEARS and without recognition of legal responsibility. And when the company "Siberia" demanded to compensate 7,5 million of damage, they started new showdowns in 15. said they hadn't shot down at all. And are these people?
  About the Malaysian Boeing I am generally silent.
  1. Arkharov
    
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    11 January 2020 13: 24
    
    boriz
    We have heard from this "man" about a technical malfunction. If he had not been taken for a certain place, there would have been tales of an exploded engine, an overload, an American drone, Iranian nuclear scientists and "wooden parts" everywhere. And why was it impossible to show not the closure of the airspace? I think they will show it too. By the way, what about the Malaysian Boeing?
    1. boriz
      
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      11 January 2020 13: 27
      
      No one has taken it yet. How much time has passed? Have you read my comment to the end?
      Read and compare who is a man and who is not.
      1. Arkharov
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 29
        
        boriz
        Only 3 days passed.
        
        boriz
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 34
        
        Here I am about that. He did not drag out for six months and wait for the conclusion of the IAC and 2 years of shameful litigation for the state (like Ukraine, I will add for clarity). Itself recognized and 100% will pay. Therefore, a man.
        But to whine in such a situation through the lip about who owes what is not a sign of good taste and maturity of a politician. Such things are discussed by special people behind the scenes. But Zelensky behaves as in a local market.
        
        Arkharov
        
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        11 January 2020 13: 59
        
        boriz
        Recognized, pay, etc. - no questions. When pinned. And when Zelensky behaved, as in a local market? What are you talking about? He behaved surprisingly dignified and balanced, I certainly could not.
        
        boriz
        
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        11 January 2020 14: 15
        
        You either go away from the answer, or you don’t understand. I point out the difference in the behavior of states in similar situations. Zelensky is not interesting in itself. He is the head of state. The same is true of Rouhani.
        So compare the behavior of the two states.
        Zelensky must remember and understand the behavior of the state that he represents. Rowhani also knows the story of how the US shot down the Iranian A300 with pilgrims and Reagan (also an artist) behaved like in a local market. The money was paid only after almost a year of judicial burden, the responsibility for the downed plane was not recognized and they did not apologize. The captain of the downed ship quickly got a promotion.
        Why not Rowhani behave the same as Ukraine and the United States?
        But Iran is a passionate country. With all the features of the mentality, people are decent and straightforward.
        I don’t understand you. Such things must be known and understood. Read at least Wiki and compare. Is it really hard? Why should we arrange an educational program here for you? Himself not ashamed?
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        12 January 2020 12: 29
        
        You attribute to the state personality traits. States have no personality, no will, no desire. Zelensky, Kuchma or Rouhani have all this. And therefore, it seems to me that your generalization (about the behavior of the state) is incorrect.
        In addition, a trial under MH17 will begin in March and there is no doubt who will be recognized as responsible for his death and who will be entrusted with payments to the relatives of the victims. And I have no doubt that they will pay.
  2. xilia72
    
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    11 January 2020 17: 25
    
    Quote: boriz
    They paid $ 200 for our passengers, and $ 000 million for Israeli passengers.
    
    And the Kremlin agreed with this? Probably, no state would have made such concessions, of course, except for the Russian Federation.
gorenina91

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11 January 2020 13: 35

- Personally, I ..., about a month and a half ago, already in several of my comments I wrote that Zelensky is far from being as simple as many perceive him ...
- And that there are 50/50 chances that he can become a fairly mature politician ... - And, of course, the well-known public then taught me the minuses ... - Today personally I believe that Zelensky already has 25/75 chances in favor of a mature politician (75%), i.e. Zelensky learns and progresses quickly enough ... -For the entire period of his presidency, Zelensky did not make a single major mistake as the head of state ... -And the war in the DPR and LPR could not be stopped today by any of the famous world presidents ... Today Ukraine is too deeply bogged down in this ... and for this Zelensky first needs to neutralize such an experienced hardened security official as Avakov .., who, in fact, has all the executive power in his hands (and not only) ... -And this Avakov went to Zelensky "by inheritance" (other other figures could not cope with Avakov and Poroshenko) ... -Because our guarantor cannot do anything with his Russian oligarchs (absolutely nothing) .., although he has been ruling for almost 20 years ... So why blame Zelensky if ............. etc ...
- And with Iran, everything is just beginning ... - Soon Iran will not "declare" about itself like that ... - Even the Chinese are in no hurry to get in there (to Iran), although for them in terms of economic benefits everything looks even too promising ...
1. boriz
  
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  11 January 2020 14: 17
  
  -I personally...
  
  I trudge simply with megalomania ...