Iranian military admitted destruction of Ukrainian liner


The reason for the death of the passenger Boeing 737-800 Ukraine International Airlines was the mistake of the Iranian military.


Iranian Press TV quoted a statement by the Iranian Armed Forces General Staff:

The Ukrainian plane, crashed earlier this week near Tehran, was flying too close to a sensitive military facility and was shot down. The reason is the human factor.


Iran, represented by the head of the Foreign Ministry, Mohammad Javad Zarif, has recognized responsibility for the tragedy. On his Twitter page, he posted the following entry:

A sad day. Preliminary findings of an internal investigation conducted by the Air Force: the human factor in a crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster. We deeply regret, we apologize and condolences to our people, the families of all the victims and other affected countries.


Iranian President Hassan Rouhani also made his statement, who expressed his condolences to the families of the victims and promised to complete the investigation of the incident and bring the perpetrators to justice:

We must complete the investigation to find out all the causes of the disaster and bring to justice those responsible for this unforgivable mistake.


It should be noted that the tragedy was provoked to a tremendous degree by the tension that arose as a result of the killing by the Americans of Iranian General Kassem Suleimani and Iran’s declarations of revenge.

A statement by the Iranian Armed Forces General Staff says that the Ukrainian Boeing was in close proximity to the important IRGC facility and in shape "resembled an enemy facility."
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 21
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    If it had not yet rested at first, then almost well done would have been that they confessed. True, rather, if there was an opportunity to unlock further, they would probably unlock them? Looks like there was absolutely no such possibility. In general, a good example to some. Lying entails only a temporary solution to problems, but creates enormous risks in the long run.
    1. businessv Offline
      businessv (Vadim) 11 January 2020 09: 28
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      Quote: Arkharov
      If it had not yet rested at first, then almost well done would have been that they confessed.

      Here it is also necessary to take into account that Iran is a militarized country, therefore the military stand apart there, apparently, they were looking for ways to get out, but they did not find it, the authorities were informed.
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 38
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        businessv
        A week recognized and reported? Was sent a konarochny through Iraq? The authorities knew after 3 minutes, do not tell. In such authoritarian countries, it cannot be otherwise.
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          businessv (Vadim) 11 January 2020 09: 44
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          Quote: Arkharov
          Did you find out a week?

          Well, not a week, but two days, be fair, colleague! It is unpleasant to be guilty, and even at such a tense moment as a blow to the mattresses, and there are still few reasons for delaying recognition of reality. But glory to God was also recognized!
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 47
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            businessv
            Yes, I swung a little too much, I agree. Well, three days, we agree on a compromise. But it seems so much time has passed, so many events at once, for the most part not very.
    2. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 11 January 2020 10: 45
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      In general, a good example to some. Lying entails only a temporary solution to problems, but creates enormous risks in the long run.

      Absolutely. good Nobody saw the dispatcher from Dnepropetrovsk? Not found yet?
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 11: 03
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        Carlos?
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 11 January 2020 11: 06
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          Carlos?

          Her last name is Carlos?
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 12: 14
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            The Carlos Dispatcher, who allegedly worked at Kiev's Boryspil airport and tweeted under the pseudonym spainbuca that Ukrainian planes were chasing Malaysian Boeing, turned out to be a man named Jose Karos Barrios Sanchez, convicted in Spain and arrested in Romania for fraud.

            https://echo.msk.ru/blog/insider_1/2165300-echo/
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 11 January 2020 18: 28
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              The Carlos Dispatcher, who allegedly worked at the Kiev Borispol airport and tweeted under the pseudonym spainbuca that Ukrainian planes were chasing Malaysian Boeing

              Well, you, I'm not interested in such things. laughing Where is Anna Petrenko, the dispatcher from Dnepropetrovsk who was flying MH17? request And where is the data from the radars?
              1. Arkharov Offline
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 08: 51
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                Well, if you consider me a specialist in all matters, I will try to answer. I’ve heard about your Anna for the first time. I looked on the Internet, in general, is very similar to the "Leontief Boeing", the size of two football fields. I think you'd better have all this conspiracy theories about where it is, etc. did not remember. As for the “Carlos” is somehow more interesting, believable and fascinating. Of course, I have no idea about the data. If the data from the radars exist, I can assume that they will be presented at the upcoming trial.
                Sorry, but that’s all I can help you with.
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                  123 (123) 12 January 2020 12: 34
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                  I’ve heard about your Anna for the first time. I looked on the Internet, in general, is very similar to the "Leontief Boeing"

                  It looks a little strange. You talk about a downed plane, but for the first time you hear about the dispatcher who brought him into the war zone. And you do not mind that she disappeared and that the commission is not interested in her fate, no one is looking for her?

                  Of course, I have no idea about the data. If the data from the radars exist, I can assume that they will be presented at the upcoming trial.

                  Before being presented in court as evidence, they must be examined by specialists. Data from radars always exists if they are not intentionally destroyed. For a better understanding of how this works, I recommend taking a look at the links:

                  http://ru6uo.narod.ru/Avia/Doc/16.htm

                  (Here about the organization of objective control);

                  https://studfile.net/preview/2137853

                  - A training manual on the organization of objective flight control (here more about airborne).
                  Browse at your leisure, try to answer the questions - why are these data not transferred to the commission? Why is the commission not interested in the fate of the dispatcher?

                  Sorry, but that’s all I can help you with.

                  Thank you, hi I can handle it myself.
                  1. Arkharov Offline
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 13: 25
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                    It looks a little strange. You talk about a downed plane, but for the first time you hear about the dispatcher who brought him into the war zone. And you do not mind that she disappeared and that the commission is not interested in her fate, no one is looking for her?

                    - Actually, it was you who remembered this plane here. Forgot already? And don’t worry so much for her, there will be a court, I hope that a question will arise on her and everything will become clear. Bear with a little, not too long left. As soon as something is known, you will be the first to whom I will immediately report it.
                    1. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 12 January 2020 13: 49
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                      Bear with a little, not too long left. As soon as something is known, you will be the first to whom I will immediately report it.

                      Agreed yes
                      Write it down, Elena Malakhova, director of Skyaviatrans airline, is on the list of victims.


                      It was their planes that burned down in Libya http://www.ato.ru/content/ukraina-poteryala-v-livii-tretiy-il-76td (under the cover of the Red Cross and the Crescent, all kinds of "spare parts" were transported). As the information appears that they brought to Iran, also include in the report.
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                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 14: 15
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                        Today, for example, Portuguese motorcycle racer Paulo Gonçalves died in Daccar. A very tragic event. Unfortunately, unidentified Iraqis killed Saaf Ghali, the operator of the Ruptly video agency, in Iraq yesterday. Who else died or died? On this occasion, should I also explain something to you? Will you bring me all the cases you know? I don’t have enough time to answer all your questions. Let's talk about something more fun:
                        21-year-old Taekwondo player Kimia Alizade, the only Iranian athlete to win a medal at the Olympics, left the country for political reasons.
                      2. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 12 January 2020 15: 04
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                        You do not use time rationally laughing Focus on the essentials. All the dead and immigrants are not interested, only in conjunction with this disaster. Get ready and you will succeed.
                        Pay attention to the background in the photo, it’s not a bit typical for civil aviation, but I didn’t look specifically for it, this photo flew out first, it was from Radio Liberty. For some reason, the names of But and Yaroshenko surfaced in my memory.

                        Photo Booth Yaroshenko

                        Aren't you wondering why such a restrained reaction from the Ukrainian and Iranian sides?
                        Theoretically, Ukraine should have acted as a “united front” with the United States, and Iran, in turn, was more wary of a “pro-American” Ukraine. But nothing similar happens. I am sure that time will pass and we will learn a lot of interesting things about Iran-Ukraine cooperation in the arms industry and rocket science in particular. I will not be surprised that the accuracy of the guidance of Iranian missiles has "Ukrainian roots."
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                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 15: 30
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                        New protests began in Tehran due to the refusal of the Iranian authorities to tell the truth about the downed Ukrainian Boeing.
                        The demonstrations have been going on for the second day in a row, despite the opposition of the security forces.
                        Crowds of people on the street near the university in Tehran, where yesterday they rallied against the Iranian authorities. Protesters chant: "They lie that our enemy America, in fact the enemy is right here."
                        People tore the portraits of Iranian general Suleymani, who was killed by the Americans earlier this month in Baghdad, and chanted “Death to the dictator” against Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khomeney.

                        https://echo.msk.ru/news/2569585-echo.html
                      4. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 12 January 2020 16: 25
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                        And what does the demonstration have to do with it? Link as an advertisement for "Gazprom" fosterling?
                      5. Arkharov Offline
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 17: 24
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                        Well, you send me incomprehensible questions, incomprehensible photos, etc. And this news is just about the topic of the article. You want to say that this is not true? What does the “extortion” have to do with it, look elsewhere. Just, I see, it’s not very advertised for some reason, including on that website. Although why, of course, is understandable. Demonstrations so far are not too numerous. In general, I am extremely surprised that even in such a country, people have a developed sense of self-esteem.
                        And it is important that the demands for the resignation of those who lied about the Ukrainian plane are also made by the media, including pro-government, moderate and conservative.
                        It turns out that not everywhere politicians can allow themselves to brazenly lie.
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                        123 (123) 12 January 2020 19: 19
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                        Just, I see, it’s not very advertised for some reason, including on that website.

                        They are simply not interesting to anyone, everyone understands how who works and who the organizer is.

                        In general, I am extremely surprised that even in such a country, people have a developed sense of self-esteem.

                        People are the same everywhere, just you are biased towards them, at least down.
                        Practice shows that when such a "virtue" develops, the economy declines and blood begins to pour.

                        It turns out that not everywhere politicians can allow themselves to brazenly lie.

                        That is why in Iran, the British ambassador was detained for leading the protests. laughing So calm down, there will be no revolution, the coordinator will not come. request
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                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 19: 34
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                        For leadership? You want to say that I have to believe at least one word of all these fully engaged and inventing more and more heresy of Iranian official sources. Yes, as I understand it, he was there. It is forbidden? The particular indignation of these "figures" was caused by the fact that he shot the actions of the Iranian security forces on the phone. Is this also forbidden? It seems that they are planning additional serious troubles, the ambassador cannot be detained even for a minute. They don’t have enough of all this shame that they have suffered all over the world in the last few days? And in general, completely cowardly actions, the firing of primitive ground-to-ground missiles, on the principle of “to whom God will send”, surprise me, this is proof of this. I represent the meeting of the best pilotspace forces of the IRGC "with the inferior pilot, for example, Israel ...
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                        123 (123) 12 January 2020 20: 37
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                        As for the detention of the ambassador, you can discuss this in a neighboring article, I think it’s not worth duplicating.

                        It looks like they are plotting additional serious troubles

                        They have had these troubles, if I am not mistaken, since 1979, one more, one less .... It just appeared one more justification for new sanctions.
                        You may not love Iran and love Israel, this is your personal matter. This has nothing to do with this situation.
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 January 2020 10: 14
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    Well, not a week, but two days, be fair, colleague

    I wonder what area you are colleagues in smile Although I understand roughly. wink
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    steelmaker 11 January 2020 10: 20
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    Get a rocket hundreds of miles into the hangar and not recognize a civilian plane, and even on takeoff. Still, Iran is not all right with technology. And do not make excuses, but Iran has committed a CRIME! And I have to answer. The main thing is that not like Turkey, for our downed plane and killed pilot. Iran DOES NOT DESERVE pity and sympathy in this crime.
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      123 (123) 11 January 2020 10: 51
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      And do not make excuses, but Iran has committed a CRIME! And I have to answer. The main thing is that not like Turkey, for our downed plane and killed pilot. Iran DOES NOT DESERVE pity and sympathy in this crime.

      I wonder what, in your opinion, "should answer" looks like? Before whom? And the others who shot down planes deserve pity and sympathy? Did the Americans, for example, answer for the downed Iranian airliner?
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 11: 06
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        Respond to all countries involved, the international community and relatives of the innocent victims. And the Americans answered - they paid compensation.
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          123 (123) 11 January 2020 11: 14
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          Respond to all countries involved, the international community and relatives of the innocent victims. And the Americans answered - they paid compensation.

          So Iran also does not refuse compensation. And that’s all over. Everything else about the "countries involved and the world community" is just a grandiose chatter. The same Ukraine for the Tu-154 as the answer? USSR for Korean Boeing?
          Unfortunately, they are not the first, they are not the last.
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 January 2020 10: 22
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    Quote: steel maker
    Get a rocket hundreds of miles into the hangar and not recognize a civilian plane, and even on takeoff. Still, Iran is not all right with technology. And do not make excuses, but Iran has committed a CRIME! And I have to answer. The main thing is that not like Turkey, for our downed plane and a killed pilot. Iran DOES NOT DESERVE pity and sympathy in this crime.

    Yes, people are sorry. Caught in the distribution.
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    gorenina91 (Irina) 11 January 2020 10: 46
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    - Well .. well ... -Iran was not able to get out ... - so I had to admit ...
    - It was not possible to hide ...- too many eyewitnesses turned out to be ... - Probably hundreds of witnesses saw missile launches, and even in the night sky ... -And dozens of witnesses, probably ...- were also photographed on their cell phones. ..- Probably the whole airport was watching all this ...
    - Two or three minutes of flight, at an altitude of 2 km ... - Yes, here you can shoot down automatic anti-aircraft guns .., and an air defense missile is even more difficult ... - the altitude is too low ... -What has Russia set for Iran for such low goals ...- "Shell-S-1" or something like that ...
    - So from it only intentionally, purposefully can be brought down ...- by chance it will not work ...
    - So it’s not all clear with Iran ...- what is he doing at all ...
  • Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 11 January 2020 11: 00
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    Yes, there’s nothing to guess here, the Boeing was shot down by the same Buk as the Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass, only it was relocated from Kursk to Iran, along with its brigade. And before that he was dragged around the Ukraine. On display. Yes, of course, it was the same Buk-killer, and the “horses”, together with the Netherlands, will prove it, and Iran just makes a reservation of itself, averting the blow from Russia.
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 12: 17
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      Valentine
      You think really funny, witty and original? There seems to be nothing more to say.
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        Valentine (Valentin) 11 January 2020 14: 12
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        Well, Gregory, as he managed, will not miss the censorship in a different way, but there’s a lot to tell me, like you, but it’s useless, you won’t understand, or you just put on nonsense, so to speak, by duty, or by "call blood, "because you are a stranger to this resource, but without you, no publication can do with your six rusty copecks.
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          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 12 January 2020 08: 58
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          Valentine
          What would you do here without me? Although the site has come to life. And then here 3 people corresponded with each other, sharing plans to combat the world behind the scenes, building far-reaching geopolitical plans, being touched by crazy conspiracy theories, praising each other and alternately putting pluses on each other.
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    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 11 January 2020 19: 04
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    Iranians are handsome, cool revenge on the Americans. Already in retaliation for their general, a hundred Iranians, 60 Canadians banged, even ten Ukrainians before the pile. Are they going to take revenge in that spirit? I hope he completed the punishment of the innocent, can I proceed to rewarding the uninvited?