Kiev: Russian plane could be shot down by a Russian missile in Iran


As one of the versions of the crash of the passenger airliner Boeing 737 of UIA, the Ukrainian side puts forward the defeat of the aircraft with a Russian missile.


About this Ukrainian portal "Censor.net" said the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexey Danilov.

According to him, the basis for such a version was information on the Internet that appeared on the site about the “wreckage of a Russian rocket” allegedly found at the crash site of a passenger plane.

Kiev: Russian plane could be shot down by a Russian missile in Iran

At the same time, the Ukrainian official draws attention to the fact that experts are included in the commission ... here, it will probably be better to quote:

... who are taking part in an international investigation into the attack of Russian troops on the Malaysian Boeing MN-17 on July 17, 2014 in the airspace of Ukraine, as well as in the examination of fragments of the Russian Buk anti-aircraft missile that shot down a Malaysian plane.


Given the fact that the head of the National Security and Defense Council made this statement after a video message from Vladimir Zelensky with a request not to speculate on the tragedy, it becomes clear that the authority of the President of Ukraine even in the circle of officials appointed by him personally fluctuates around zero.

Actually, this situation most clearly demonstrates why the rating of the Ukrainian president, who has been in office for less than a year, will soon be in the same place as his authority among officials.
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  1. The stump is clear - Russia is to blame for everything, even in the crop failure of peaches on Mars!
  2. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 15: 09
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    If suddenly the version about some kind of rocket is confirmed, perhaps the same thing happened as with the Malaysian Boeing - and there, and here no one wanted to blow up a civilian plane consciously. Rather, the error came out. Nerves passed, the goal was not recognized, skills are not enough, I wanted to report to the high authorities, or something else, but they fired. Have you heard about the “monkey with a grenade”? This is it. And hundreds of lives went to heaven.
    1. businessv Offline
      businessv (Vadim) 11 January 2020 09: 04
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      Quote: Arkharov
      Rather, the error came out. Nerves passed, the goal was not recognized, skills are not enough, I wanted to report to the high authorities, or something else, but they fired. Have you heard about the “monkey with a grenade”? This is it. And hundreds of lives went to heaven.

      You are right, colleague, that is exactly what happened, unfortunately! We are waiting for the consequences.
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 14
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        businessv
        Yes, everything was clear to the child from the very beginning. Only not to some, ideologically drugged, who will even speak black on white, the main thing is that this should at least somehow coincide with their worldview. After all, a lie entails only a temporary solution to problems, but creates enormous risks in the long run.
        1. businessv Offline
          businessv (Vadim) 11 January 2020 09: 21
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          Quote: Arkharov
          Yes, everything was clear to the child from the very beginning.

          I always want to assume that people have nothing to do with it, that's why we break spears. How you can bring down a civilian plane on take-off from the airport is a mystery to me! Although Square also has such an experience, so to be surprised, really, is not worth it - impermissible luxury!
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 24
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            businessv
            How could it be, I have already described above. Perhaps the ability of the complex to attack in automatic mode also affected, but if so, then what are the wry-handed id ... did you use this mode at this very time?
  3. Vasil K. Offline
    Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 9 January 2020 15: 37
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    For a long, very long time we went to such an accusation! .. Now the World is standing right; Bandera ....
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 16: 02
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      Vasil K. What did you want to say?
  4. Jar.serge Offline
    Jar.serge (Reznik) 9 January 2020 16: 02
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    They brought the remnants of the Tor rocket with them ..... well, if these are those "specialists."
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 16: 12
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      Jar.serge
      Why do you think so? What are your reasons not to trust these experts?
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        Jar.serge (Reznik) 9 January 2020 17: 21
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        And you carefully follow the history of the "investigation" of the downed Boeing over the Donetsk region. And in Ukraine, professionals, even if they stayed, it is only in the "work" language.
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          AICO (Vyacheslav) 9 January 2020 21: 22
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          Yes, and in the narrow "gaps" !!!
  5. beeper Offline
    beeper 9 January 2020 16: 46
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    Well, again, the American shawls and the United States sticking out behind them are trying to do the extreme - it’s bald to blame them for their war crimes against humanity!

    ... it never happened and here again!

    negative What happened was written yesterday at VO - the "Ukrainians" sellers - the merroholuy will still indiscriminately blame Russia for everything that happened, they simply "impudently" pulled their ears to it (as they "pulled" their Banderlog Sheremet to undermine in Kiev, and then it turned out that her own "Svidomo" bandera had stolen him!) "! winked

    Only in the morning the "investigative commission" from "Ukraine" flew to Tehran and immediately, less than half a day later, an "unexpected" picture of the wreckage of a Russian missile was "presented" (although later, according to the serial numbers, it would turn out to be, as if with a supposedly "Russian" Malaysian missile) “Boeing”, that it was “inoperative” in the arsenal of Ukrainian air defense, but for Goebbelsukh, the main thing is to baldly crow, scribble, scoop up, feces on the fan right away, and then wipe yourself off - justify yourself to the easily manipulated “world community”! yes ), oh yeah, what quick-tempered “slides” —the Iranians were looking for — didn’t find, and these “found out” at once, just “to the vein” of their Phashington curators ?! wink

    These "Svidomo", as well as the "ambition" to the "Smolensk Tu-154", it was necessary not so easy let to the place of accident and debris (so you don’t throw anything!!!), and only after a thorough personal search with a metal detector "to underwear (even deeper!)" and dressing in disposable overalls, under vigilant supervision (with video recording of each step!) unbiased referees ...
    1. Igor Pavlovich Offline
      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 11 January 2020 12: 33
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      PISCHAK, and now again from the beginning, only taking into account the recognition of the Iranians that they shot down the Ukrainian airliner ...
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        beeper 11 January 2020 16: 00
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        Igor Pavlovich, for you again - And what does Russia and the Russians have to do with it ???
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          Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 12 January 2020 09: 14
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          Well, now it’s much clearer. The whole point of the commentary is six words, and the remaining 200-odd (or 97%) is an eructation of Great Russian chauvinism. If you practice a little more and meaningfully keep silent, it will turn out almost like Einstein’s ...
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    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 16: 54
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    It is clear that in any case, Russia has absolutely nothing to do with it. The complexes were officially supplied, and the operator should already be responsible for someone’s inept actions, if any. But, if you believe this photo, then this is the head part, very similar to the head part of the 9M331 SAM system of the TOR-M1 complex or its modifications. It can work both manually, with the participation of operators, and fully automatic mode. In this case, the TOP system itself controls the designated airspace and independently knocks down all air targets that are not recognized by the friend or foe system. In general, they seem to have experience of shooting down in automatic mode: on August 17, 2010, Iranian air defense systems shot down a fighter of their own Iranian air force F-4 Phantom in the area of ​​the Bushehr nuclear power plant.
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    bobba94 (Vladimir) 9 January 2020 17: 05
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    Soon a video will appear in the Ukrainian media where a full march of a column of Tor anti-aircraft missile systems from a military unit located in the Kursk region to the suburbs of Tehran will be shown.
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 17: 43
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      But we know that, rather, they themselves shot down this airplane in order to blame it on someone. This missile launched from MANPADS flew from Zaroshchensky. They released it in the evening, flew by night and hit the Boeing engine on take-off. But Zelensky understands that he was caught, like the previous one, and held for .... and wants to get out. But it won’t work out - it’ll find its truth forever!
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    Alexzn (Alexander) 9 January 2020 17: 26
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    Note - stupid stuffing. Provocation.
  9. Valentine Offline
    Valentine (Valentin) 9 January 2020 17: 48
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    Well, finally, we were honored, but it would seem that just a little is missing in the discussions of the world media, well, just a little bit, and Ukraine, and this is not in the ass with your finger, put everything in its place, just as and it should be, and now the guilty one, as always, has become known to everyone, and the next Hague shines on him.
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    isofat (Sergei) 9 January 2020 17: 48
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    Ukraine is looking for money to rip off! Knowing the relations of the Russian Federation with the USA and the "independence" of lawyers, they cast a bait on a fool ... what if? Suddenly bite? The Zapadents have no respect for honest work. It is hoped that the rivals of the Russian Federation will pick up this ball - fake.
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    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 9 January 2020 18: 29
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    We are waiting for a photo of Buka at the crossing near the airport under Slavic Tehran.
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    bear040 9 January 2020 18: 40
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    Russophobia of Bandera more and more resembles Prince Myshkin and the company from the Yellow House ...
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    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 19: 19
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    Rocket 9M330 complex TOP. Try to compare.


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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 20: 09
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        And what's this? Also a hoax? Or certain associations? You are something very playful and frivolous today. But what about the fight against the overseas fiends of hell?
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          isofat (Sergei) 9 January 2020 20: 16
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          Arkharov, when I go in, I immediately look at all the comments, the starting point. To prevent spam, I inserted my comment, not forgetting to note its insignificance. This comment can also be deleted.
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    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 10 January 2020 00: 38
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    I would like to see a group portrait of satisfied people after reading the conclusion made by Iran:

    The plane of Ukrainian airlines Boeing 737 crashed due to engine fire, because due to lack of orig. details Ukraine stuck there something of its own, wooden.
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      isofat (Sergei) 10 January 2020 00: 56
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      cmonmanYou are a bloodthirsty type, like all Americans. And do not want to sympathize? Innocent people died.
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 09: 31
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        Here you are especially “sympathetic” with your “friends of reason”:

        Quote: bear040
        Russophobia of Bandera more and more resembles Prince Myshkin and the company from the Yellow House ...

        Quote: isofat
        Ukraine is looking for money to rip off!

        Quote: pishchak
        What happened was what was written yesterday at VO - the "Ukrainians" sellers, the meroholuy ...
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          isofat (Sergei) 10 January 2020 10: 46
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          Quote: Arkharov
          Here, especially you strongly "sympathize" with your "friends of reason"

          Arkharov, Bandera, who unleashed a civil war, do you cause sympathy? Maybe you sympathize with the US citizen who uses the fact of the tragedy in the information war? And every time he is asked a question, he bashfully shuts up?
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            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 10: 50
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            isofat Do you really feel bad with your head? You, I see, are happy about the death of passengers on a national basis? But where do you find so many Banderaites among Iranian citizens? In general, your statements smack of pure Nazism, which I am not at all surprised. The dialogue with you is ending forever, with the Natsiks I have nothing to talk about.
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              isofat (Sergei) 10 January 2020 11: 15
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              Arkharov, where do you see in the quotes you made of my friends in reason disrespect for the victims of the crash?

              I and my reasonable comrades sympathize with the victims of the tragedy and would like to know as soon as possible the causes of this accident.
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    gore (Alexander) 11 January 2020 05: 56
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    It was also necessary to state that the rocket was fired from the Chukotka region (as an eyewitness) and was controlled by hackers in Vladivostok (I saw it myself but didn’t take any pictures) ...
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