In Iran, revealed the details of the crash of the Ukrainian liner


The Iranian Civil Aviation Organization has published a preliminary report on the crash of a Boeing 737-800 of the Ukrainian airline UIA, which crashed yesterday shortly after taking off from Tehran's Imam Khomeini Airport.


As follows from the document, eyewitnesses saw that the passenger liner was burning and fire spread through its fuselage right up to the collision with the ground.

The department’s experts also note that, judging by the flight path, the crew knew about some kind of malfunction on board, turned the plane around and headed towards the airport, but the Ukrainian crew did not make any emergency messages.

A preliminary cause of the accident is engine failure. The final conclusions will be made after the decryption of the records of "black boxes".


The crash of Boeing "Ukraine International Airlines" at the time of the highest aggravation of relations between Iran and the United States, caused a lot of speculation in the Ukrainian media and social networks.

The most common stuffing was the statement that on the wreckage of the liner there were traces of the striking elements of the rocket and the stewardess called that the liner was fired.

The scale of insinuations was such that the president of Ukraine in his video message was forced to ask him to refrain from speculating and wait for the results of the investigation.
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  1. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 13: 53
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    The scale of insinuations was so ...

    - But what, the authors already know for sure that these are insinuations? But Iran has many questions, for example: why didn’t Iran close its airspace, having a good idea of ​​what was happening at that moment, and what could it lead to further? Why did the crew not give a distress signal, what are the characteristic holes in the skin, why does the plane consist of a bunch of small fragments, practically without large ones? What about the black boxes? If everything is normal, it would seem, make the decryption of the boxes as open as possible, in some European country, such as, for example, the decryption of the boxes of the Malaysian Boeing was done in the UK (to which, by the way, neither side has any complaints), with the involvement of all interested parties ? In your own interests? In addition to the original video, with the fall of something very burning, a video appeared with a powerful flash and the scattering of many small burning fragments of the fuselage:



    I can’t judge how similar it is to “engine explosion”?
    1. Tektor Offline
      Tektor (Tektor) 9 January 2020 18: 32
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      They wanted to flunk this board in order to accuse Iran of a crime, which, they say, was already knocking civilian planes out of powerlessness. And only the fact that Iran managed to launch its short-range ballistic missiles before the Boeing incident does not allow taking such a position .... That is the catastrophe was planned in advance: the details of the skin of another Boeing with traces of striking elements and the remains of the missiles were loaded into the cargo compartment in advance ... But the Boeing itself was completely controlled from the outside: this is evidenced by the fact that communication with the crew disappeared immediately after the take-off, and that could not report anything to Earth (about the complete loss of control of the board), and the tragedy happened after a couple of minutes, when the board gained the required height for the "downing".
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 18: 43
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        Tektor
        Well, finally, the "stale corpses" began. You invented it yourself, or found somewhere in the backyards of conspiracy theological sites, among truthful stories about reptilians and the ark of the New Testament?
        1. isofat Offline
          isofat (Sergei) 9 January 2020 18: 54
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          ArkharovThis is a parody! A parody of your comment above.
          PS Sorry, could not resist. smile
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 18: 59
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            isofat
            And you do it. You see, they write this here, especially some authors of articles, that I am not surprised at anything. I think that 90% of local readers believed in all this and completely agreed with this, that was so. This is how "sensations" are born. And you just do not write for such sites?
            1. isofat Offline
              isofat (Sergei) 9 January 2020 19: 18
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              ArkharovI do not write. I happened to be on the site, stumbled upon a publication about the Blue Bird. This prompted me to register. An interesting site.
              1. Arkharov Offline
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 9 January 2020 19: 21
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                What is the Blue Bird?
                1. isofat Offline
                  isofat (Sergei) 9 January 2020 19: 33
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                  My very first comment. There is a photo there.
    2. Bulanov Offline
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 10 January 2020 09: 38
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      Great Britain is the birthplace of White Helmets ...
      1. isofat Offline
        isofat (Sergei) 10 January 2020 10: 50
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        Quote: Bulanov
        Great Britain is the birthplace of White Helmets ...

        Bulanov, United Kingdom, the homeland of Jack the Ripper, who was never found!
    3. Jar.serge Offline
      Jar.serge (Reznik) 10 January 2020 10: 54
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      There will be official results - there will be a topic. And you don’t need to hold Iranians for idiots, not Ukraine, tea, to bring down a plane full of Iranian citizens, a few minutes after taking off from the capital’s airport. By the way, the air defense of such facilities is permanent and the air defense radar operators know the schedule of civilian airborne by heart. Well, but to shoot down a plane with an operational-tactical ground-to-ground missile, and after the shelling has already ended, what is it like to be a "couch general" in order to comprehend this. And the last one noticed that almost all airlines stopped flying from Tehran and only UIA Kolomoisky continues to fly, that's for sure money on blood.
      1. Arkharov Offline
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 10: 57
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        Jar.serge
        It’s clear that I’m not ... you.

        On August 17, 2010, Iranian air defense systems were shot down with the help of a TOR complex in the area of ​​the Bushehr nuclear power plant, an F-4 “Phantom” Iranian air force fighter.
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          Jar.serge (Reznik) 10 January 2020 12: 46
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          There are restricted areas for flights, where air defense facilities are simply required to shoot down ANY aircraft. In particular, zones above nuclear power plants or some areas above the capitals of states. Rust’s landing on Red Square, as an example, does not lead ....
          1. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 13: 11
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            Jar.serge
            Yes there are. But this indicates a general organization of the process.
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  3. Panting Offline
    Panting (Vyacheslav) 10 January 2020 08: 18
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    The main reason for the crashes and crashes of aircraft, in my opinion, is the composition of passengers on board, if you carefully analyze.
    1. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 09: 42
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      Panting More often krivoruky id ... you on the earth. For examples in the Donbass and Syria, you do not need to go far.
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        Panting (Vyacheslav) 10 January 2020 21: 54
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        Arkharov! According to Youtube, so the Chinese stealth technology specialists flew on the MH-17, and the Iranian nuclear program flew on the UIA Boeing. Well, etc.
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 08: 48
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          Panting
          The opinion of an analyst named "Youtube" is very authoritative. Of course, they flew there and there, but not by stealth and nuclear technology, but by extraterrestrial intelligence and reading thoughts from a distance.
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        Astronaut (San Sanych) 11 January 2020 12: 04
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        And the borozopisy inflate this topic)
  4. Arkharov Offline
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 10 January 2020 13: 14
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    Quote: Jar.serge
    Well, to bring down an airplane with an operational-tactical ground-to-ground missile, and after the shelling has already ended, what is it like to be a "couch general" in order to comprehend this.

    Where did you get this? Who claimed that?
  5. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 10 January 2020 13: 19
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    As I understand it, at the moment there are three main versions: a technical malfunction, a planned diversion, a missile hit.
    The Iranian missile version will be intensely promoted as the most “promising” one. Firstly, it fits into the logic of events; sanitation pressure on Iran will increase as a state that shot down civilian aircraft. Secondly, the phrase "Iranian air defense" in conjunction with "Russian air defense systems" will become "toxic", they say, to supply weapons to Iran - it's just awful. Indeed, in August the term of the arms embargo on Iran ends. There is the prospect of technical re-equipment of the armed forces of Iran, primarily air defense and the "antique" Air Force fleet.
    The version of the technical malfunction will be intensely wiped into the background, the aircraft has undergone three and a half years, a week ago underwent full maintenance. This is a big rusty nail in the lid of the coffin for a Boeing, for them it's just the end. By the way, is Ukraine the only country where the Boeing 737 was not withdrawn from operation? Somehow it is necessary to explain this, in solidarity with the "senior comrades" or the greed of Kolomoisky ...
    As for sabotage, it is likely, if I’m not mistaken, that the engine was on, the crew tried to return to the airfield ..... the lack of radio communications looks very strange. In addition, if the diversion was planned, it is easier to do in Ukraine, "controlled territory."
    The missile, of course, could have been, the operator’s mistake or carelessness should not be discounted, especially since the situation is tense, everything is on the brink of war. But it could be MANPADS, a height of 2 is quite within reach.
    The main thing now is not to let Western and "pro-Western" experts turn around; there will be no objective investigation there. Do not believe me - ask Malaysia.
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    2. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 08: 50
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      The main thing now is not to let Western and "pro-Western" experts turn around; there will be no objective investigation there.

      - Well, "did not give"? The next falsification attempts failed?
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 11 January 2020 09: 00
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        - Well, what didn’t they give?

        Not allowed. They figured it out.

        Attempts to falsify failed?

        And who was going to falsify what?
        1. Arkharov Offline
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 09: 02
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          And what, immediately the Iranians did not know about this? You rub it to someone else. Here on the site there is someone.
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 11 January 2020 09: 06
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            And what did the Iranians immediately not know about this?

            I don’t know, they haven’t called yet today, they’re probably busy request Maybe they checked the information. recourse There was a start, but they hit - they did not hit, they were determined according to the results of the inspection.

            You rub it downs.

            Doesn't suit you? winked Try the Asterisk balm in whiskey ..... may help .. repeat
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    boriz (boriz) 10 January 2020 13: 43
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    The normal version is the answer for the attack on the base in Kenya. And the reason is normal, and there was a time for preparation, and God knows what resources: a pair of Stinger. And there even one is enough. And the performers are not necessarily the United States. Israel will join with pleasure. This is their region, the possibilities are wider than in the USA.
    If you think about it, then the explanation that the Ukrainian board can be found. The gas transit agreement was signed across the US interests, they do not need this transit at all. And Israel might not like the last Bandera escapade.
    What is not the version?
    As for the technique.
    There are only two engines. They are pushed forward relative to the wing. The nozzle is in the middle of the wing width. Stinger flies into the nozzle and explodes. The engine is collapsing. At the time of destruction, the turbine still spins at a terrible speed and the blades fan out almost along the wing (slightly obliquely, due to the sweep of the wing).
    No line from the gun is needed. And in the wing - a fuel tank. A fire starts, the wing mechanization is disrupted (there is a lift, the flaps / slats are not yet in flight position), the aircraft is practically uncontrollable.
    The blades also fall into the fuselage (albeit a little), which they could have broken, only a specialist will say.
    Attack conditions - just for MANPADS. If they wanted to substitute the Russian Federation, they would have dropped the plane into the Black Sea. In any way.
    Now we must wait for finds from the area where the fire started. If it is a rocket, there must be its remains.
    Although there may be options with external control. They well explain the lack of crew reports.
    It's still a Boeing ...
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 10 January 2020 16: 19
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      the plane is practically uncontrollable

      They deployed the plane, tried to return to the airfield.

      Now we must wait for finds from the area where the fire started. If it is a rocket, there must be its remains.

      That's right, we must wait for the results of the inspection. If there was a rocket, characteristic traces of damage will remain.
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        boriz (boriz) 10 January 2020 20: 21
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        They deployed the plane, tried to return to the airfield.

        It is said loudly. The plane began to leave to the right. It's all. If the mechanics of one wing are still working, but the other is no longer there, it is clear that it will drag it in one direction.

        ... characteristic traces of damage will remain.

        There must be a rocket shank. The height is small.
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 10 January 2020 21: 07
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          Will wait. There, they say, Ukraine gained access to black boxes. These now they will find a photograph of a Russian rocket, felt boots and a balalaika.
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    Dust (Sergei) 11 January 2020 03: 59
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    A video has already appeared on how to bring down a Boeing. This is what happens. Dark night, on the street no one, the author of the video smokes and waits for the plane to fly over and be hit by a rocket. He waited! This is Jack Pot! Bingo! .... Do you believe that? .... Or, it turns out, who filmed, knew that they would shoot down a Boeing?
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 11 January 2020 08: 56
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      Iran confirmed. An accidental launch of a rocket .... In general, nerves .... and low qualification.
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    gore (Alexander) 11 January 2020 06: 02
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    But what details can there be if the whole high-likly world is sure that it is the Russians "WARVARIANS shot down a CIVIL plane, and with SPECIAL RIGIDITY."
    Most of all in this story, it’s just a pity for the pan-head. Now the media vector has moved to Iran, but all the same, Russia can be spoiled by such stuffing there ...
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    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 11 January 2020 08: 58
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      And Iran, though not immediately, but acted with dignity. By the way, an example for some.

      That's right. Great example. I would like to know the information from Ukrainian radars.
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    commbatant (Sergei) 11 January 2020 11: 29
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    Iran said the Ukrainian plane was shot down by mistake ...

    Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said that the Boeing 737-800 of Ukraine’s International Airlines was shot down by air defense systems of the republic due to human error. According to him, Tehran deeply regrets what happened and expresses condolences to the families of the victims of the crash.

    https://russian.rt.com/world/article/706565-iran-oshibka-samolyot-ukraina?
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    SANDRO (Sandro) 12 January 2020 10: 28
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    The love of Russians for Iran rolls over! Still would! In the world of the USSR / Russia (I write together, as in foreign policy, this is one and the same thing), there are only three true and true friends: Venezuela, North Korea and Persians ... Why is this so, the story is long and scary, now it’s not about her ... I read the comments and wonder how it is that the same person writes them! Technical analysis of the flight, Trump, NATO, Kolomoisky, and not a word of compassion for the victims of another monstrous crime by the Persians, by the way, who have already pleaded guilty! People, come to your senses! You kind of like believing Christians! Where is your pain for the innocently murdered souls ?! Is the love for the Persians, imposed by your leadership, so able to distort your brains ?! There is one well-known political saying, very suitable for this situation: "He is of course a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch!" Who is the same "OH", I think, it became clear ...