Elimination of Iran's top officials: what lesson should Russia learn


The new year 2020 began to match its predecessor - with the roar of rocket explosions, blood and deaths, with mass protests and a sharp aggravation of military danger. While there is an exchange of new reproaches and threats between Washington and Tehran, while the Middle East is balancing on the very brink of armed conflict for a long time of unprecedented proportions, it’s time for you and I to take a closer look at this situation and try to draw conclusions from it. Moreover, not immediate, concerning exclusively the immediate actions of our country at the Middle East Theater in the prevailing circumstances, but far-reaching and relating specifically directly to Russia.


I’ll make a reservation right away - everything written below is addressed primarily to those stubborn followers of “Thomas the Unbeliever,” who, in any discussion of the topic of our possible military confrontation with the United States, are accepted to insist: “This cannot be, because this can never happen!” I do not strive to “intimidate” or “propagandize” anyone. I just want to remind once again: alas, we live in a time when the implementation of even the darkest and most incredible at first glance scenarios cannot be discounted. A stubborn reluctance to take threats that seem unrealizable for granted may subsequently cost too much. I will not give historical parallels - they already lie on the surface ...

Logics? What are you talking about ?!


The US missile and bomb strike on the outskirts of Baghdad on January 3, which claimed the lives of an Iranian general, commander of the IRGC Qasem Soleimani and the head of the People's Mobilization Forces of Iraq, Abu Mahdi Muhandis, is an outstanding example of military-political idiocy, no matter how you look at it. And the point here is not even that, as it turned out, the decision to inflict it was made by Donald Trump despite the current intelligence data and the opinion of high-ranking officials of his own administration, who tried to convince him that there was no "inevitable" attack on the American diplomatic and military facilities of Soleimani in reality did not plan. It is rather about the long-term, strategic prospects for this unprecedentedly arrogant and defiant cannibalistic act. I will not retell all the critical assessments that fell on the head of the White House from my own compatriots, including politicians of the highest rank, I will confine myself only to a statement of fact that is common to all of them: the president in one fell swoop canceled all attempts by Washington for decades to build some acceptable order in the Middle East. I must admit that it didn't work out very well without that ... And now - at least take out the stars and striped flags. And even from those countries where they were tolerated until recently, albeit reluctantly.

At the time of this writing, the Iraqi parliament has already decided to break the military assistance agreement concluded with the United States in 2008 and to withdraw all foreign troops from the country. “Go home!” - And not only the Yankees, but also all their allies in the coalition created to fight ISIS. Come on ... Official Baghdad no longer wants to see a single soldier from the West on its territory. If Mr. Trump, killing Suleimani, hoped to “undermine” or “undermine” Tehran’s power, which the Americans call the regime, then the effect was achieved by them, admittedly, the exact opposite. Iran is experiencing an unprecedented patriotic upsurge, the country's citizens rallied even closer around its spiritual and military leaders, burning with anger and thirst for revenge. The thousands of people who escorted Sulejmani to the last journey with the cries of "Death to America!" Especially when you consider that the first missiles at American targets in Baghdad have already arrived, and Al-Shabab militants have already made a “courtesy visit” to the US military base in Kenya (used as an airfield for the Air Force). And this, for sure, is just the beginning. In any case, General Hossein Dehgan, the military adviser to the Iranian leader, promised Washington a "thoughtful, timely and wise" reaction with a "decisive restraining effect." It is entirely possible that 3 and a half thousand American soldiers hurriedly transferred to the Middle East are going to die there ... And, by the way, anti-war demonstrations began already in the USA itself. And former senior CIA officials, such as Michael Morell and Leon Panetta, directly say that Trump’s trick will cost the lives of many “peaceful Americans.”

“Slam the door” so that the house collapses


Some of the analysts, who today are for the most part in complete bewilderment about the premises of this attack, bordering on insanity, are trying to discover some "secret motives" in the actions of the same Trump. Well, for example: "he wanted to raise his own rating during the election campaign." Again it turns out nonsense ... It is not surprising to imagine what could have done more damage to his image than the murder of Suleimani and the prospect of war and terrorist acts resulting from him. But so far not a single coffin wrapped in "stars and stripes" has arrived in the USA! But if the president decides to continue in the same spirit, they will go in a stream. A "small victorious war" with Iran does not shine for the Americans in any case. There is, however, another version: they say, Washington decided, seeing the failure of its own foreign policy in the Middle East, and realizing the inevitability of leaving there, to firmly "slam the door" goodbye. Wow "cotton"! The result will most likely be the complete collapse of even that extremely flimsy "security architecture" that was in this "powder keg" of the modern world. In fact, this is already happening. The "mission to combat ISIS" of the Western Coalition has been officially suspended, the US allies hastily scaled back their own military presence in Iraq, NATO is convening an extraordinary meeting. The next step is a wonderful performance at the UN, where Tehran turned with an angry protest about everything that was happening. It is very interesting how this organization will behave this time, long ago turned into a submissive puppet of Washington? Will he pretend again that "nothing terrible" is happening? In this case, it may well be the beginning of its end.

If somewhere it’s worth looking for at least some reasonable explanation for Trump’s decision, then rather, as usual, in the field of economics. More precisely, in the industry’s favorite president: energy exports. No, really, it’s not without reason that the recently resigned US Secretary of the Economy Rick Perry declared Donald Trump “God's chosen ruler” at the end of last year, placing him higher than the “Bible kings”! Not one of the White House residents had such an obsession with the idea of ​​making the United States not just the main, but, it seems, the only exporter of oil and gas on the planet. Most likely, the adoption of the fateful decision of the president was prompted, for example, by the statement of Iranian vice president Eskhak Jahangiri that the country continues to sell its oil “in other ways”, contrary to the “US pressure and sanctions imposed by them” made in December. And also - the accession of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, as well as Belgium and the Netherlands to the INSTEX system, specially created by Germany, France and the UK to trade with Iran, bypassing US sanctions. And not only as participants, but also shareholders. In fact, all of this taken together means nothing more than a complete failure of Washington’s sanctions policy on Tehran. So the “last argument” of those who stubbornly continues to consider themselves the kings of the present world was launched. And here we are, in fact, approaching the lessons that Russia should learn from current events.

Everything is possible...


Unfortunately, the irresponsible and adventurous actions of the current US leader, who made the decision and ordered the liquidation of Suleimani, without coordination with Congress and members of its own administration, not to mention some “NATO allies” there, clearly indicate that Trump is really capable of any, wildest antics. Therefore, any references to the "international community", as well as references to any "framework" and "rules" that the United States allegedly adheres to in their actions, can now be safely thrown away in the trash. In my opinion, Sergey Lavrov put it best of all on this score, who sorted out what happened from the point of view of just international law: the destruction of an official, the head of a completely official military formation of a UN member state in the territory of a "third country" ... The head of our diplomacy very diplomatically called all this “a flagrant violation of generally accepted principles” of precisely the very right that Washington so much loves to refer to and out of place, and “illegal military actions”. In fact, the January 3 missile strike is a milestone in the evolution of American foreign policy, and, without exaggeration, a milestone. From now on, all conventions and even the appearance of decency have been discarded. The demonstrative liquidation of the Iranian general is nothing more than a US application not just for leadership in today's world, but for the leadership alone and not disputed by anyone. The exclusive right to execute and pardon anyone and anywhere at their sole discretion. And who can say that they will act differently with regard to Russia?

You will say: "We have nuclear and hypersonic weapons, but Iran does not." Right. However, to sink the American aircraft carrier, and with luck, also in the company of a couple of military ships with a smaller caliber, the Iranians can quite. At least theoretically, in terms of the level of available weapons. The fact that the Russian “Vanguards” hit Washington and New York, they do not categorically believe there. At the same time, judging by recent events, they are quite ready to risk (or even knowingly sacrifice) a thousand - another - third of their own military. For very doubters, I’ll remind you that the United States is currently seriously considering (at the level of Congress and the State Department) the issue of recognizing the Republic of Donbass as "terrorist organizations." Suleimani Trump has declared "the number one terrorist in the world" already posthumously, but here, it seems, they are trying to fumble in advance. I’ll propose only one possible scenario: such a confession takes place, and then a delegation of the DPR or LPR goes to the Russian Crimea, which the United States stubbornly considers to be “illegally occupied territory”. What will be the actions of Moscow if the same “Hellfires” as those who killed Suleimani fall upon Simferopol Airport ?! I sincerely hope that no UAVs or even F-1s will break through our air defense system there. But what if they try to break through and strike? It is very interesting whether an appropriate plan has been developed for such a specific case? And if so, what department: Shoigu or Lavrov? What will follow in response: crushing retribution or “expression of deep concern”? Personally, I have no answer to these questions.

Trump, for sure, does not seek a full-scale war with Tehran. He's just trying to "make America great again." As usual, killing and destroying someone. The US is not eager to occupy Iran. Their goal is to “nullify the oil export” of this country. With regard to Russia, one-to-one plans are the same. Sooner or later, convinced of the futility of sanctions, they will try to “educate” us in exactly the same way. Unless we learn the current lesson ...
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  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 January 2020 10: 11
    -4
    ..and then the delegation of the DPR or LPR goes to the Russian Crimea, which the United States stubbornly considers "illegally occupied territory." What will be the actions of Moscow if the same “Hellfires” as those who killed Suleimani fall upon Simferopol Airport ?!

    - oh, the author, oh, "surpassed", probably, everything written years earlier? What will happen next with his "articles"? As the author rightly writes at the end of his "article":

    Personally, I have no answer to these questions.
    1. DenZ Offline DenZ
      DenZ (Denis) 6 January 2020 16: 14
      +2
      Hellfire at the airport of Simferopol? The author of the militants has revised, or what?
      1. Osiris Offline Osiris
        Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 47
        0
        The author is simply following the news. A group of B-52 strategists 100 km from Kaliningrad, carrying out a combat training mission to destroy bases and command posts, is already the reality of our day. And no one even rose to intercept.
        1. plabu Offline plabu
          plabu 11 January 2020 14: 52
          +1
          News is good, but you just need to decide on the main thing - do you think this option is applicable to the Russian Federation? And I’m not even talking about the extreme option - nuclear weapons, etc., it’s quite enough to calculate that there are quite a few bases in Europe, and this is the question - what can happen to them if they strike even in Simferopol, or Kaliningrad? - and the US president, who will allow so many victims, well, I will say this, does not expect anything good ...
          1. Osiris Offline Osiris
            Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 17: 22
            +2
            The Americans are now seriously busy modernizing their nuclear weapons. They took the path of reducing power. The question arises, why? The answer is obvious. Their disarming strike strategy has not gone away. That is, to strike first and inflict unacceptable damage on the enemy. One after which he will not be able to answer. That is, the destruction of our PGRK, SSBN, strategic aviation, command posts. This is their eternal headache) Perhaps, schizophrenia of the brain. So they don't forget about China either. Therefore, we see in the news the seemingly insane statements of their generals about the upcoming conflict on two fronts. Russia and China. In fact, their army is now in a position to wage similar warfare on two fronts. Let's not forget about the NATO mongrels. Despite all this, you should not lose heart). Which have not be avoided. And the superiority of the enemy never stopped the Russian soldier. In addition, all high-tech means of warfare will be destroyed one way or another. And we will return to war with AK and RPG. The conflicts of our time clearly show this. How "incomparable Abrams" are destroyed, UAVs are shot down, and so on. militants.
            An attack on Kaliningrad or Simferopol will definitely be regarded as an act of war. What will happen? Putting SNF on alert "Complete". Removal of parts, connections from the places of deployment. Well, then ... then you just have to wait for orders and pray.
            1. plabu Offline plabu
              plabu 11 January 2020 19: 08
              +1
              The statements of their generals can be understood, they increase their budget, but as for the fact that they can already be on two fronts, so to speak - this is an interesting question, there are doubts, the number of carriers is comparable, so they can be spread both on us and China - it’s difficult - but the disarming blow - they want something, but it’s still difficult, and to destroy all the possibilities for a response even, rather than a reciprocal one, is not easy.
              So far - in my opinion, there is still hope that in the next few years, it will be possible to avoid the hot phase, but I can’t take a long look ...
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 6 January 2020 17: 37
      +4
      What is the lesson for the Russian Federation?
      Very simple. There is a precedent that issued to Mount Washington.
      Consequently, Moscow can now also wet the ardent Russophobes, Nazis and other enemies of Russia, wherever they are in any country. The United States does not care about the UN and international law, the Yankees do not bear any responsibility for this, therefore, other countries, including nuclear powers, are a good example of how to act. Oh Kay.
      1. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 18: 51
        -2
        Quote: Rusa
        Consequently, Moscow can now also wet the ardent Russophobes, Nazis and other enemies of Russia, wherever they are in any country.

        This is not our method. We are antilegene people and therefore we work without using Hellfire, our analogue 9K121 “Whirlwind” -

        https://topwar.ru/161774-agm-114-hellfire-i-9k121-vihr-glazami-izdanija-sina-military.html

        RF works with "fine matters" - polonium and "Novichok", cheap and practical .... in the end, you can get an ice ax from a shed ... time-tested ...
        1. Osiris Offline Osiris
          Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 52
          +2
          Quote: commbatant
          This is not our method. We are antilegene people and therefore we work without using Hellfire, our analogue 9K121 “Whirlwind” -

          With only one such "insignificant" difference. The vortex is used from helicopters. But Hellfire is adapted for use with UAVs. Moreover, there is already the next modification AGM-114P. I think the advantages of using a UAV are obvious to you.
          1. commbatant Offline commbatant
            commbatant (Sergei) 11 January 2020 13: 06
            +1
            Quote: Osiris
            Quote: commbatant
            This is not our method. We are antilegene people and therefore we work without using Hellfire, our analogue 9K121 “Whirlwind” -

            With only one such "insignificant" difference. The vortex is used from helicopters. But Hellfire is adapted for use with UAVs.

            So you did not read my reference ...

            Sina Military suggests considering in this context the main anti-tank weapons of helicopters of the two countries. US Introduces AGM-114 Hellfire Rocket for Apache AH-64 Helicopterand Russia - the AT-16 product (9K121 Whirlwind) for the Mi-28 helicopter.

            https://topwar.ru/161774-agm-114-hellfire-i-9k121-vihr-glazami-izdanija-sina-military.html

            Why did you decide that the ATGM of the Russian Federation cannot be used with Russian UAVs?
            For interest:
            Enemy UAV -

            https://topwar.ru/82836-reyting-samyh-smertonosnyh-bespilotnikov.html

            UAV of the Russian Federation -

            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5d15183571584300ad318f99/rossiiskie-bespilotniki-noveishie-modeli-dlia-voorujennyh-sil-5dc1dc37f73d9d00af1ce2ab

            Apparently, the Russian Federation lagged behind the ampirialists in heavy shock UAVs, but at least something is being done ... now ..
            1. Osiris Offline Osiris
              Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 18
              +2
              Quote: commbatant
              Why did you decide that the ATGM of the Russian Federation cannot be used with Russian UAVs?

              Why not? Can. But for this you need to put the optical-television sighting system into the UAV. At the moment, there is no domestic information on the use of ATGMs with UAVs. It was planned to use Altair for these purposes. At the same time, the Whirlwind is used from helicopters.
              1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                commbatant (Sergei) 11 January 2020 13: 27
                +1
                Quote: Osiris
                Quote: commbatant
                Why did you decide that the ATGM of the Russian Federation cannot be used with Russian UAVs?

                Why not? Can. But for this you need to put the optical-television sighting system into the UAV. At the moment, there is no domestic information on the use of ATGMs with UAVs. It was planned to use Altair for these purposes. At the same time, the Whirlwind is used from helicopters.

                Well, an unsuccessful comparison, initially compared roughly equivalent (as it turned out, helicopter) ATGMs ...
                "Attack" and "Shturm" can be used from a Russian UAV or is it necessary to create a new specialized ATGM for this ...?
                The last link indicates Russian UAVs (including promising ones), but they do not indicate ATGMs that will be used from them, so I think we will have to create new ATGMs for them ... but with unification we always had trouble .. . as if for each strike UAV our would not develop separate ATGMs, different design bureaus besides ...
                1. Osiris Offline Osiris
                  Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 40
                  +3
                  It is not necessary to create a new one unambiguously) the principle will remain the same. Altair has a good payload. Apparently, problems with the UAV itself. Recently, in a strange way they don’t write about him at all, and this leads to bad thoughts.
                2. Osiris Offline Osiris
                  Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 56
                  +3
                  On the other hand ... in the place of the Ministry of Defense, I would also not be engaged in the adaptation of ATGM for UAVs. There is not much money in the military budget. In the light of the warlike rhetoric of the West and its total rearmament, exercises near our borders, reconnaissance aircraft, the modernization of existing equipment is necessary in the first place.
            2. Osiris Offline Osiris
              Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 21
              +2
              The lag can be overcome! There are plenty of startups in the country. But as always, grants and investments receive approximate.
            3. Osiris Offline Osiris
              Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 26
              +1
              By reference) I constantly study information related to the development of military equipment and weapons. This is native.
      2. silver169 Offline silver169
        silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 7 January 2020 04: 52
        0
        Rusa Yes, in theory, Moscow can and should be wet, but for some reason prefers to lick the backside of all these Russophobes and Nazis. Vova Putin hopes that America will forgive him. In vain.
    3. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 18: 42
      +5
      Quote: Arkharov
      - oh, the author, oh, "surpassed", probably, everything written years earlier? What will happen next with his "articles"?

      Arkharov fear God You are on the site for less than 1,5 years, as registered.... (started working for Israeli Jews) ....
    4. Conn Offline Conn
      Conn (Conn) 7 January 2020 23: 30
      -1
      The answer is definitely there! While Putin is in the Kremlin, the Yankees will kill not only the leaders of Iran, but also the leaders of other countries, including the LPNR, and then the turn may come to us! Meanwhile, Putin will sit on gas pipes and tremble from the thought that all the loot he stole by "hellish work in galleys" can be instantly confiscated from him and his friends by his "partners" from the State Department!
      1. Osiris Offline Osiris
        Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 54
        0
        Quote: Conn
        at this time, Putin will sit on gas pipes and tremble with thought

        It’s like our bread in this historical period. And the effects of GDP should not be questioned.
  2. Osiris Offline Osiris
    Osiris (Osiris) 6 January 2020 11: 13
    +3
    The author raised a fair topic! What our political leadership will do in such a situation is not clear. In the light of his impotence in domestic and foreign policy and the constant expression of concern.
    1. Vasil K. Offline Vasil K.
      Vasil K. (Vasil K.) 6 January 2020 12: 10
      +6
      We will not unreasonably detain citizens of countries that capture Russians ...

      But China did this, and the question seems to be closed, judging by the silence from the RT. The downing of a Boeing over the Donbass - there is such a question that the third world just stinks.
    2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 January 2020 14: 35
      -9
      Osiris (Osiris)
      The author, thanks to his remarkable imagination, can raise any topic, let me help him and you: what if aliens attack? !!! "What will our political leadership do in such a situation, it is not clear ..." - I tried it with your words, I think you liked it? I am also very concerned about this, together with you and the author of the "article" !!!!
      1. Osiris Offline Osiris
        Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 32
        +4
        You are just a demagogue. Write a better article in this case.

        Quote: Arkharov
        what if aliens attack? !!! "It is unclear what our political leadership will do in such a situation ..."

        It’s better to read something about the history of our great country before ironizing. And draw conclusions. Well, for example, for starters: S. L. Rogoza N. B. Achkasov "Secret Wars 1950-2000" Those like you, with their laughs and ridicule, are always not ready for action in situations of real danger. And historical facts point to this.
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 11 January 2020 12: 41
          -3
          Osiris
          What does this book have to do with the absolutely violent fantasies of the author of the article? And why don't you like my option, why is it worse and less likely?
          1. Osiris Offline Osiris
            Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 55
            +3
            Quote: Arkharov
            What does this book have to do with the absolutely violent fantasies of the author of the article?

            In order to understand this, you need to familiarize yourself with the content. Take a pencil and highlight the main thoughts. And forget about emotions for a while.
    3. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 18: 56
      0
      Quote: Osiris
      What will do in such situation is our political leadership, incomprehensible. In the light his impotence in domestic and foreign policy and constant expression of concern.

      You are strange .... Are you from our planet?
      Keep watching ..
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      2. Conn Offline Conn
        Conn (Conn) 7 January 2020 23: 36
        -1
        20 years of blah blah blah and promises have not taught you anything ... I'm sorry, I am truly sorry for you!
  3. Jar.serge Offline Jar.serge
    Jar.serge (Reznik) 6 January 2020 11: 53
    +9
    There is only one conclusion - the USA is non-negotiable. Understand only a direct threat.
    1. Osiris Offline Osiris
      Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 13: 06
      +2
      Absolutely right! Just one small remark. Not just a threat, but a threat in action. The history of our country is saturated with such moments. The same Caribbean crisis. Then we went to VABANK. And this is normal with America. It is always necessary to go to the end with them. GDP understands this. But our elites, who are only concerned about the withdrawal of funds from the country ... this is a weak link, which in the event of war could follow the example of generals in Iraq.
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 11 January 2020 14: 59
        +2
        One thing so far pleases, such elites are initially heterogeneous and the likelihood that they will conspire - well, I will say this, is rather small - so far, so, and then - as they say, we will see ...
        1. Osiris Offline Osiris
          Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 17: 30
          +2
          That's exactly right, and thank God! Again, whatever one may say .. but we must not touch them, these elites. They are, in fact, the driver of the economy. Like young and frisky horses pulling an obsolete carriage of the domestic economy (I apologize for the tautology). I would not want to talk about this, but in our country it has historically been the case. When the enemy is near our borders, an incomprehensible activation of the country takes place. It’s like a toggle switch. In everything. In relations between people, in relations between elites, elites and people. We feel like one. As soon as everything normalizes .... again confusion and reeling. I look forward to the performance of GDP on January 15. Very unusual this year, I think, will pass. Since the date of the performance was announced in advance, until NG. This have not happened before. The President’s Address will reflect the answers to all the most pressing questions. I advise you to look.
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 11 January 2020 19: 09
            +1
            I haven’t watched the telly for a long time, but here I’ll try, probably ...
  4. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 6 January 2020 13: 34
    +5
    While the Kremlin is waiting for everything from the gentleman of mercy, not being offended by spitting in the face and kicks .... And suddenly they will pathet with an affectionate word.
  5. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 6 January 2020 15: 31
    +2
    Trump is responsible for killing and injuring thousands of unarmed Americans at the hands of the police. And they plan to kill even more ... Washington is directly or indirectly involved in the deaths of millions of people (in Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on), including bystanders inside the United States. Although the United States has never recognized this, millions of Americans hate and fear Trump. It had to be destroyed many years ago.

    Analogy
  6. Umsan Umsanov Offline Umsan Umsanov
    Umsan Umsanov (Umsan Umsanov) 6 January 2020 15: 44
    -2
    Putin is - there will be a victory!
    Putin criticizes Stalin and the leaders of the USSR - that they are some kind of bags.
    So he is right.
    If in 1941 there would have been Putin, then Hitler would have been crushed on his own territory.

    - says the cheers patriot, drugged by TV propaganda.
    Before Tsushima, many Russian patriots cried out loud -

    ... we throw these monkeys with caps!

    - (about the Japanese).
    But it turned out the other way around.
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 19: 01
      +2
      Quote: Umsan Umsanov
      Before Tsushima, many Russian patriots cried out loud -

      ... we throw these monkeys with caps!

      - (about the Japanese).
      But it turned out the other way around.

      Now the Japanese are waiting back for their islands (which they will never receive) and feeding the American occupation forces that will never leave Japan ...
      1. silver169 Offline silver169
        silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 7 January 2020 04: 57
        -2
        Quote: commbatant
        Now the Japanese are waiting for their islands back (which they will never receive)

        You never get it, you say? So almost got back, and more recently. The bald one ... sitting in the Kremlin, was prevented from passing Japan the two islands only by the wave of popular anger that rose in Russia.
        1. Conn Offline Conn
          Conn (Conn) 7 January 2020 23: 34
          -1
          +++ !!! 100% true
        2. plabu Offline plabu
          plabu 11 January 2020 15: 01
          0
          You might think that this wave, well, has taken on its own, right?
          You need to think a little and understand the root causes of this thing that interferes, or interferes?
        3. Osiris Offline Osiris
          Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 17: 32
          +2
          All this venture with Japan was only to probe their moods. Understand what to expect from them in the future.
      2. Umsan Umsanov Offline Umsan Umsanov
        Umsan Umsanov (Umsan Umsanov) 7 January 2020 06: 17
        +1
        Now - another thing.
        They attacked friendly Mongolia and got a hat.

        Well, I say that you can be a patriot, but not blind. The author is fully rights. You have to be ready. But our specialists are better prepared. After all, Ukrainians with amers wanted to bring down Putin's plane, but shot down a Boeing MN-17.
        Those. our specialists are stronger or equal to the best, world ones.

        After all, then they could easily bring down a plane with GDP. But they did not succeed.
      3. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 08: 25
        -5
        commbatant
        Thanks to these troops, the Japanese, without spending much on defense, managed to fully raise their economy and achieve their phenomenal economic and technological successes. I think most Japanese people still "pray" for these troops. As, however, and South Koreans with their wonderful neighbor.
        1. commbatant Offline commbatant
          commbatant (Sergei) 7 January 2020 12: 00
          0
          Quote: Arkharov
          I think most Japanese people still "pray" for these troops. As, however, and South Koreans with their wonderful neighbor.

          Did you personally communicate with them (Japanese and South Koreans) on this subject? I thought so, did not communicate ... again your alternative story .....
          1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 12: 13
            -3
            commbatant
            "Labor" Japanese and Koreans?
            1. commbatant Offline commbatant
              commbatant (Sergei) 7 January 2020 12: 22
              +1
              Quote: Arkharov
              commbatant
              "Labor" Japanese and Koreans?

              It must be assumed that the unemployed do not care ...
              1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 12: 26
                -3
                Well, if you think so, so be it. This does not change matters.
                1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                  commbatant (Sergei) 7 January 2020 12: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: Arkharov
                  Well, if you think so, so be it. This does not change matters.

                  It changes because your comment:

                  Thanks to these troops, the Japanese, without spending much on defense, managed to fully raise their economy and achieve their phenomenal economic and technological successes. I think most Japanese people still "pray" for these troops. As, however, and South Koreans with their wonderful neighbor.

                  - is a lie.
                  Better tell me when the Israeli Jews will return to the working people of the SAR of the Golan?
                  1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 12: 38
                    -4
                    commbatant
                    This is in honor of what a lie? You somehow decide with yourself something there, according to the principle known to you only by one. Only I know for sure, with the exception of a small part of the frostbitten leftists, no one there will be glad in any case. Even the unemployed, geisha, yakuza and puffer fish catchers.
                    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                      commbatant (Sergei) 7 January 2020 13: 11
                      +3
                      Quote: Arkharov
                      You somehow decide with yourself something there, according to the principle known to you only by one.

                      This is what you can say about you, telling everyone here all sorts of tales that all the nations of the world pray for the Americans ....

                      Even the unemployed, geisha, yakuza and puffer fish catchers.

                      They are generally on the drum .... everyone cares about welfare .... and not Americans ... if there is a WB in your country, no one from the people will get rich ...
                      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 13: 33
                        -5
                        commbatant
                        ... everyone cares about well-being ..

                        - I absolutely agree with you. That's just, in many respects - due to the presence of American troops, these countries have achieved such outstanding economic success. They don’t have to spend a lot of money on maintaining their defense capabilities, it’s good that you understand this and support me ..
                      2. commbatant Offline commbatant
                        commbatant (Sergei) 7 January 2020 15: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: Arkharov
                        ... it’s good that you understand this and support me ..

                        Where did they get it?

                        They don’t have to spend a lot of money on defenses

                        Tell this to A. Merkel, on whose territory the occupying forces of the Anglo-Saxons are still located and which D. Trump advises to increase the military budget of Germany to 2% of the national ....
                        Yes, by the way, in the Federal Republic of Germany and Japan, the WB of the USA are almost completely at the expense of taxpayers of these countries ....

                        United States demanded from Japan fourfold increase the cost of maintaining the American military contingent in the country. This was reported by Foreign Policy magazine, citing its sources in the Washington administration.

                        https://topwar.ru/164790-ssha-trebujut-ot-japonii-uvelichenija-trat-na-soderzhanie-amerikanskoj-armii.html

                        This is about saving ...
                        You are poorly prepared for trolling good and gullible members of the forum, your master will not approve of your hack ....
    2. Osiris Offline Osiris
      Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 43
      +1
      This is a merit not of the Russian Federation, but of the USSR. Do not compare Titan and Spike on feet of clay. Even a comparative analysis of Japan’s self-defense forces is not in our favor today. I am silent about comparing economies. We got the islands, but what's the point? We do not value what we have. Woke up recently. To build something there, to strengthen steel. Does the hasty transfer of ships from the North to the Pacific Fleet mean nothing to you? Or maybe you will tell me about the air defense there? In the event of a military conflict with Japan, we will have to rely only on nuclear weapons. In any more or less significant conflict, we will have to rely only on nuclear weapons. No matter how they flaunted. Yes, even with our torn to shreds industry. If even a pipe layer for the SP-2 was purchased ..

      As a result, the purchase of the Jascon 18 pipelayer, as it was called Akademik Chersky before the renaming, looked like this. The construction of the vessel was started in Singapore by order of the private Nigerian company "Sea Trucks Group Limited". However, in 2015, before the completion of the work, the company sold one of its ships under construction to an unnamed Chinese buyer. The deal was shrouded in a veil of secrecy, which Gazprom finally unveiled by confirming the purchase of Jascon 18 for modernization as a pipe-laying vessel. To date, all modernization work has been completed and the new name Akademik Chersky has been sold to the Russian Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy (MRTS).
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 11 January 2020 15: 07
        +1
        You have quite sound thoughts, but let's try to decide - will there be a military conflict, will it be inevitable? If we are talking about the same Japan, without conflict, well, in the very near future - this and next year, in your opinion, will not cost?
        1. Osiris Offline Osiris
          Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 17: 05
          +2
          Sooner or later, there will be a military conflict, the question is only in time. Look at our Far East. It is actually occupied by China. The so-called soft expansion. Our leadership does not go into conflict only because of pressure from the collective West. Plus the belligerent rhetoric of Japan. China is growing at a frantic pace. As we know, growth requires resources. They have huge problems with fresh water. And not only for them. Our country is denied access to energy markets. And the sale of resources, whatever one may say, is our economy. Now the whole world is balancing between war and peace. European countries and not only buy weapons in tens of thousands of units. What is this if not preparation for war? You cannot close your eyes to this. Already in 1941 they tried to close it. Our entire history repeats to us and repeats many times: "If you want peace, prepare for war." I remember how Vladimir Vladimirovich was interviewed for the first time in the Kremlin. I can’t forget his words. The idea is that the country is facing very difficult times. And it depends on how we prepare for them, how we go through them ... whether our country will exist at all. The West gave us a break. Now that time has passed. And no one else has illusions. They will not give Russia a quiet life. This is an eternal confrontation.
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 11 January 2020 19: 20
            +1
            I agree about "they will not give a quiet life", BUT, given that our main allies are the army and the navy (figuratively), not everything is so bad, the Strategic Missile Forces is replacing outdated systems, and their percentage is already considerable, and in the region missiles and air defense, everything is not too bad here, but about when there will be a conflict - as for Japan, I'm still an optimist - they themselves are unlikely to climb, and Europe is not easy there, but to assume that they are just dreaming to attack is unlikely, they are not fools at all and they understand quite well that the strategic nuclear forces almost do not threaten them, and without this, if necessary, they will fall well, SO UNCLE SAM will have to try very hard to even force them, but this is mine opinion...
            1. Osiris Offline Osiris
              Osiris (Osiris) 12 January 2020 02: 13
              0
              http://krasvremya.ru/intervyu-iosifa-stalina-amerikanskomu-gazetchiku-royu-govardu/

              Read. This is an interview with Stalin American journalist. You can’t say better.
  • Sergey39 Offline Sergey39
    Sergey39 (Sergei) 6 January 2020 15: 52
    +4
    What lesson should be learned from Russia?
    Less often, travel to the president, etc., in third countries.
    1. Osiris Offline Osiris
      Osiris (Osiris) 11 January 2020 12: 57
      +2
      It must be understood that OUR (THEIR) HOUSE IS RUSSIA, and not Cyprus offshore.
  • Dzafdet Offline Dzafdet
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 6 January 2020 15: 54
    0
    It’s just that the Americans made it clear that for the sake of profit they can slam anyone. Including, and beloved by all, GDP and DAM at any time. And no FSO will help them.
    1. DenZ Offline DenZ
      DenZ (Denis) 6 January 2020 16: 13
      +2
      Well, not anyone, not more than the one they killed. They may decide to do the same with Russian officials, but now, and in the foreseeable future, they are unlikely to have the courage. For a very long time they wanted to annoy and badly annoy Iran.
  • Umsan Umsanov Offline Umsan Umsanov
    Umsan Umsanov (Umsan Umsanov) 6 January 2020 15: 58
    -2
    This is an ultimatum not to Iran, but to GDP.
    It's time to hit the US headquarters in Iraq and Syria.
    1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 6 January 2020 18: 44
      -7
      Umsan Umsanov
      Who do you think should hit?
      1. plabu Offline plabu
        plabu 11 January 2020 15: 10
        -1
        Quote: Arkharov
        Umsan Umsanov
        Who do you think should hit?

        Do not worry so, no one was counting on your blow. hi
  • Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 6 January 2020 16: 15
    +5
    In vain, colleagues, ironic over the author. Any scenarios should be considered. For example, Iran’s rich and powerful intelligence agency will provoke against the United States and the media under control will start shouting that this is the work of Iran, and that the United States must take revenge! Thus, they will set the States on their enemy and try to stay away. And for some reason, unexpectedly I recall the unfortunate Archduke Franz Ferdinand ...
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 6 January 2020 19: 04
      0
      Quote: Bulanov
      And for some reason, unexpectedly I recall the unfortunate Archduke Franz Ferdinand ...

      It remains to find a fool who will stand up for the IRI, many cheers-patriots see the RF in it ... you, apparently, from among them ...
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 08: 27
        -4
        commbatant
        For the third time I agree. Not a lot, but at least something.
  • alessio Offline alessio
    alessio (Oleg Tarasenko) 6 January 2020 18: 58
    +4
    When all the children of the ruling elite live and live in the States, I think we will not hear anything but concern.
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 6 January 2020 20: 51
    -2
    Elimination of Iran's top officials: what lesson should Russia learn

    - No lesson from Russia should be learned from this ... - And what to learn ???
    - Russia ... is a waiting and anxious and responsive substance - the state and its task to respond to something and someone else ... - In other words, today Russia does not have its own foreign policy (and domestic too) ... - today's hypostasis of Russia ... is to react and perceive what is presented to it ... -Well, what can it be presented to ...- Yes, anything, anything ... -and what could be the lessons from all this? ?? - Absolutely no ... - only a reaction to what is happening ...
    - Okay ...
    - With the Great CHRISTMAS Holiday of you, reasonable and primitive siteers !!!!!
  • silver169 Offline silver169
    silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 7 January 2020 05: 08
    -3
    Quote: commbatant
    RF works with "fine matters" - polonium and "Novichok", cheap and practical .... in the end, you can get an ice ax from a shed ... time-tested ...

    For polonium and "Novichok" you have already gotten your hands on it ..., and for an ice ax, perhaps, it will be even worse, then you will certainly not get off with "concern" alone.
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 15: 12
      -1
      For polonium and "Novichok" you have already gotten your hands on it ..., and for an ice ax, perhaps, it will be even worse, then you will certainly not get off with "concern" alone.

      And if you also have a sense of humor. Well, suddenly, from somewhere, in general, beauty will be ... bully
  • silver169 Offline silver169
    silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 7 January 2020 05: 13
    -3
    Quote: kriten
    While the Kremlin is waiting for everything from the gentleman of mercy, not being offended by spitting in the face and kicks .... And suddenly they will pathet with an affectionate word.

    They will beat a boot in the ear. A cowardly mongrel (no longer a bear!), Unable to fend for itself, deserves nothing better.
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 15: 14
      -1
      Dream on and on, the counselor showed up here, and your attitude - but to whom it is very interesting ...
  • Umsan Umsanov Offline Umsan Umsanov
    Umsan Umsanov (Umsan Umsanov) 7 January 2020 06: 20
    +1
    To all commentators - love your neighbors and do good to those who ask - and save Russia much better than any State Duma deputy and those sitting on the throne.

    Love for man is the measure of everything in this world.
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 09: 51
    -2
    They banged the leader of a non-state organization engaged in the export of the ISLAMIC REVOLUTION outside of Iran.
    If you are against the Islamic revolution, the world has become a little cleaner for you.
    If you are a supporter of this, then you have something to regret.
    I see no reason for discussion, just choose a position.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 11: 12
      0
      Quote: AlexZN
      They banged the leader of a non-state organization engaged in the export of the ISLAMIC REVOLUTION outside of Iran.

      Alexzn, and who is engaged in the export of democratic values? And who, in your opinion, is Ali Khamenei, who signs decrees and makes appointments?
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 7 January 2020 11: 52
      +1
      Sasha, do you know that Iran has become like this as a result of the intervention of the Americans in the internal affairs of this state? And that the "Islamic revolution of 1979" was the work of the Yankees, you also do not know? EVERYTHING THAT IS CREATED IN BV TODAY IS THE BUSINESS OF THE AMER'S HANDS. Those. all wars, killings, ISIS are different with al-Qaeda - that's all of them ... that's the whole position ...
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 16: 02
        -5
        A.Lex
        Now, of course, everyone has become aware, all Internet users around the world. Maybe you’ll still dance with a tambourine?
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) 9 January 2020 10: 03
          0
          Gregory, your comment for what? Nothing to say on the topic?
    3. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 15: 21
      0
      Quote: AlexZN
      ... If you are against the Islamic revolution - the world has become a little cleaner for you.
      If you are a supporter of this, then you have something to regret.
      I see no reason for discussion, just choose a position.

      About how, it turns out, the whole thing is in the position - and the fact that there are essentially no rules left that everyone abides by - regardless of skin color, citizenship, political or religious orientation - well, really, who does it occupy, right?
      Well, then do not be surprised that everything is moving in a spiral, whether you personally want it or not, and judging by your "logic" - that ambassador who was torn to pieces not so long ago is far from the last one, but what else can you think of ...
      So, you once opened a notorious box, so tune in to catch the consequences further ...
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 11: 39
    0
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    They banged the leader of a non-state organization engaged in the export of the ISLAMIC REVOLUTION outside of Iran.

    Alexzn, and who is engaged in the export of democratic values? And who, in your opinion, is Ali Khamenei, who signs decrees and makes appointments?

    Again we return to the POSITION (coordinate system).
    If you prefer the export of the Islamic Revolution, put on mourning.
    If the export of democracy-pinch your nose and say nothing.
    What is the subject of the dispute?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 11: 52
      0
      Quote: AlexZN
      What is the subject of the dispute?

      AlexZN, subject of dispute - your comments and avoiding answering my questions.
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 12: 38
        0
        Quote: isofat
        Quote: AlexZN
        What is the subject of the dispute?

        AlexZN, subject of dispute - your comments and avoiding answering my questions.

        I do not see leaving. Put SPECIFICLY a question, I will specifically answer.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 12: 39
          0
          AlexZN, and who is engaged in the export of democratic values? And who, in your opinion, is Ali Khamenei, who signs decrees and makes appointments?
          1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 January 2020 16: 03
            -4
            isofat
            Oh, democratic values, this is definitely not part of Ali Khamenei.
    2. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 15: 23
      0
      You have a mistake - and we will NOT pinch your nose, and keep silent all the more - whether you like it or not, this is definitely not the main thing. hi
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 12: 40
    -2
    Quote: A.Lex
    Sasha, do you know that Iran has become like this as a result of the intervention of the Americans in the internal affairs of this state? And that the "Islamic revolution of 1979" was the work of the Yankees, you also do not know? EVERYTHING THAT IS CREATED IN BV TODAY IS THE BUSINESS OF THE AMER'S HANDS. Those. all wars, killings, ISIS are different with al-Qaeda - that's all of them ... that's the whole position ...

    And they pee in the hallways ... :)
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 9 January 2020 10: 14
      0
      Hmm ... I see ... You have nothing to answer, that's why you write all kinds of nonsense.
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 9 January 2020 10: 19
        -2
        I’m so sharp.
        Yes, in many respects what is happening in BV, the Americans are guilty. Of course. I just do not see this as maliciousness, but only existence. It's like rain, it just goes, you can get wet ...
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 9 January 2020 15: 47
          +1
          Alexzn, it's like feces, it just lies, and you can step ... on existence. Do you understand? yes
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 12: 57
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    AlexZN, and who is engaged in the export of democratic values? And who, in your opinion, is Ali Khamenei, who signs decrees and makes appointments?

    Is this a specific question? - It's strange. There are two questions, and in the form of a syllogism ...
    Who exports democracy? - USA (collective West).
    Who do you think AH ....? “Who is AH?” - the great ayatollah ... the leader of the Islamic revolution ... the ideological leader of the Shiites of Iran.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 13: 32
      +1
      Alexzn, the question cannot be a syllogism, two questions too!
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 7 January 2020 13: 38
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    Alexzn the question cannot be a syllogism, two questions too!

    Good that you understood that! I tried to convey this ... Or a correctly formulated question, or a syllogism ...
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 13: 54
      +1
      Quote: AlexZN
      It’s strange. There are two questions, and in the form of a syllogism ...

      AlexZN, once again ... the question cannot be a syllogism, two questions too!

      Quote: AlexZN
      Good that you understood that! I tried to convey this ...

      I knew this when I became acquainted with logic. And what you tried to convey, you lost somewhere.
  • filippino lippi Offline filippino lippi
    filippino lippi (filippino lippi) 8 January 2020 00: 31
    0
    If this happens in Simferopol, the SECOND thing will happen, the "PEACES" from the Kremlin will RESPOND THE US, "REGRETED" about what happened, and assemble the UN Security Council! Answer SERIOUSLY and DECISIVELY Putin will not be able to, "BY DEFINITION", HE IS "TIRED", NAKED, to take DECISIVE ACTIONS, he is not able! This is not the Pension Reform "TO TURN" AND TO LEAVE ", he clearly DOESN'T GO, he has plans to HOLD ON POWER until death!
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 9 January 2020 17: 51
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Alexzn, it's like feces, it just lies, and you can step ... on existence. Do you understand? yes

    Not! Absolutely not! You may or may not step on feces, but it rains, giving you no choice. At most, you can use an umbrella.
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    2. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 15: 25
      0
      An interesting "logic" you have - that you can simply NOT go out in the rain, where is this option? laughing
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 11 January 2020 15: 42
        0
        So don’t go out. Rain from this will not disappear. :)
        1. plabu Offline plabu
          plabu 11 January 2020 16: 19
          0
          This is just an example of your "logical chain". bully
  • Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 11 January 2020 15: 40
    0
    Quote: 321
    Quote: AlexZN
    ... If you are against the Islamic revolution - the world has become a little cleaner for you.
    If you are a supporter of this, then you have something to regret.
    I see no reason for discussion, just choose a position.

    Oh, how it all turns out to be in the position - but the fact that there are essentially no rules that everyone follows - regardless of skin color, citizenship, political or religious orientation - well, really, who does it occupy, right?
    Well, then do not be surprised that everything is moving in a spiral, whether you personally want it or not, and judging by your "logic" - that ambassador who was torn to pieces not so long ago is far from the last one, but what else can you think of ...
    So, you once opened a notorious box, so tune in to catch the consequences further ...

    Did I make it clear somewhere that I would be surprised?
    But the rules remained consistent with realities, and not with abstract humanism. Therefore, the commander engaged in foreign operations was liquidated, and Iran responded so that the Americans would not die. The box was opened a long time ago. The world is what it is.
    1. plabu Offline plabu
      plabu 11 January 2020 16: 22
      +1
      And what, it was discovered long ago? And your term is particularly impressive - abstract humanism, but for some reason, when it comes to an individual personally - where everything goes, the tonality becomes completely different already ...
      And you, as I understand it, think that everything has already ended? Well, yes, Iran made such a statement, well, well ..
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) 11 January 2020 17: 26
        0
        When it comes to someone personally, the problem of humanism ceases to be abstract and becomes concrete. And yes, the tone becomes different, but only for specific people, if they are losers. EVERYONE voted with enthusiasm for the beginning of the First World War, and the second followed the first, although it would seem ...
        Do I look like a soooooooooo naive person to believe that it's already over?