The US is waiting for the appearance in service with Russia Su-60 and MiG-41


American experts evaluated the potential of Russian aircraft manufacturing and, on the basis of available information, suggested which combat vehicles would appear in the Russian Air Force in the future.


Military Watch published material whose authors compiled an imaginary rating of Russian future combat aircraft. In the first place, American experts put the promising missile carrier PAK DA, the first flight of which is expected no later than 2025.

Further, the authors of the material predict the appearance in Russia of such combat vehicles as the MiG-36, MiG-41, Su-60 and Yak-150, which will receive improved characteristics of their predecessors.

Thus, the MiG-36 will become an improved version of the medium MiG-29 fighter with the capabilities of evading radar detection, and also will include a number of of technologiesused on the MiG-35. The combination of these factors, according to the expert, will allow us to rank the new combat vehicle in the 4 ++ generation.

The MiG-41 will be the further development of all the best that is in the MiG-25 and MiG-31: the new machine will be able to reach Mach 5 speed, its armament will be hypersonic ammunition, and the ceiling will be in near space.

The Su-60 will be a logical continuation of the existing Su-57 and will be the first Russian sixth generation air superiority fighter.

The Yak-150 fighter will become the heir to the Yak-141 vertical take-off and landing aircraft, the creation of which was prevented by the collapse of the Soviet Union, and will be intended for use on light Russian aircraft carriers that will be laid down in the near future.

American experts attribute such a breakthrough to the fact that Russia managed to overcome the stagnation phase in the aircraft industry and start implementing new projects from scratch.
  • Photos used: frame from video Film company VKS and Navy of Russia
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 January 2020 16: 16
    0
    If there is no sales of what was built, there will be no new NOTHING! Unfortunately, this is how our "effective managers" built our economy. This can be clearly seen in space; nothing has been built on tanks in the past 30 years. If not for the sale of the T-90, then the Armata would not have appeared soon. And for the sake of the country's prestige, NOTHING will be done now!
  2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 January 2020 16: 37
    -5
    What nonsense. In which US is "waiting to appear"? Is that how everyone in the United States sat down and waited? What kind of resource? What are the types of cars? Who invented them, whose wild fantasies ?! So, after all, they write here as about something really serious:

    American experts evaluated the potential of Russian aircraft manufacturing and, on the basis of available information, suggested which combat vehicles would appear in the Russian Air Force in the future.

    Would you be ashamed to quote all kinds of garbage, better tell us where in the troops of the SU-57, which, according to the text of this article, is still of the previous generation?
    1. commbatant Offline commbatant
      commbatant (Sergei) 4 January 2020 19: 46
      +3
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov)
      What nonsense. In which US is "waiting to appear"? Is that how everyone in the United States sat down and waited? What kind of resource? What are the types of cars? Who invented them, whose wild fantasies ?!

      You clearly wrote in an article in Russian:

      Military Watch Edition published material

      - the author only reposted the material ...
      Has opened his mouth to his masters? In January, do not come to the cashier, from you one harm ....
      Write your article about the Israeli Air Force F-35, which shoots peaceful Palestinian refugees ... going to work ... or IRGC IRI facilities located on the territory of the SAR, kindly provided by the working people of the latter ....
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 5 January 2020 07: 32
        -7
        commbatant
        Insanity grows stronger, something completely new in the creativity of the individual:

        Write your article about the Israeli Air Force F-35, which shoots peaceful Palestinian refugees ... going to work ... or IRGC IRI facilities located on the territory of the SAR, kindly provided by the working people of the latter ....

        Remarkably, what is it on the low level, apparently from machine guns? This is how war films come to mind and the contented faces of Israeli gunmen-radio operators appear, sweaty little hands changing magazines at smoking machine guns. And I wonder what kind of hypothetical job do these hypothetical "peaceful Palestinian refugees ... going to work" have to be shot? Do not launch rockets towards Israel, according to the principle: to whom will God send?
  3. commbatant Offline commbatant
    commbatant (Sergei) 4 January 2020 19: 37
    +4
    American experts estimated the potential of Russian aircraft building and based on available information suggested what kind of combat vehicles will appear in the Air Force of Russia in the future. The combination of these factors, according to the expert, will make it possible to rank a new combat vehicle to generation 4 ++.

    Evil American experts have suggested the future of the Russian Air Force with 4 ++ aircraft, apparently they will no longer be in the US Air Force ...
    1. silver169 Offline silver169
      silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 4 January 2020 23: 06
      -4
      Does it have a future for the Russian Aerospace Forces? I doubt very much ...
      1. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 4 January 2020 23: 15
        +4
        Quote: silver169
        Does it have a future for the Russian Aerospace Forces?

        The experience of the war in the SAR showed that .... fellow

        I doubt very much ...

        Yes, nobody cares about it .... laughing
        1. silver169 Offline silver169
          silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 4 January 2020 23: 21
          -6
          Maybe it is precisely because in Russia everyone does not give a damn, things are so bad for you? After all, only lazy people don’t laugh from your country ?! lol
          1. commbatant Offline commbatant
            commbatant (Sergei) 4 January 2020 23: 27
            +2
            Quote: silver169
            After all, only lazy people don’t laugh from your country ?! lol

            The one who shoots first laughs well ....

            Maybe it’s because in Russia everyone doesn’t give a damn, things are so bad for you?

            You are so many-sided ... I said that it’s all your opinion that they don’t give a damn about, and not at all and not at all ... go run, the ticket office will only open after the New Year holidays, so no one will appreciate your opuses here .. . laughing
            1. silver169 Offline silver169
              silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 4 January 2020 23: 40
              -7
              Quote: commbatant
              The one who shoots first laughs well ....

              Laugh through tears, oh, how in Russian. crying And as for who shoots first - so soon there will be nothing. Russia is not able to produce new modern weapons, because its hands are crooked, but you can’t shoot a lot with antediluvian Kalashnikovs ... fool
              1. commbatant Offline commbatant
                commbatant (Sergei) 5 January 2020 00: 01
                +1
                Quote: silver169
                Russia is not able to produce new modern weapons, because its hands are crooked, but you can’t shoot a lot with antediluvian Kalashnikovs ... fool

                Where did your hands grow from then, if it wasn’t your fate to invent from all of the above ...?
              2. NordUral Offline NordUral
                NordUral (Eugene) 5 January 2020 13: 50
                +1
                Merged into Australia, chasing a kangaroo, we will manage without people like you.
                1. silver169 Offline silver169
                  silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 7 January 2020 02: 51
                  -3
                  So do not do it! wassat And you won't do it! Your country of fools will die slowly and nothing else. Everyone who has the slightest opportunity flees from the country of fools, leaving only narrow-minded "eugenias" with one convolution in the ass. Emigrants who are loyal to your country, such as you, are turned into bitter enemies, because it is not for nothing that a huge number of immigrants from the former USSR work in the military industry of the United States and Australia. Your country has no friends, you are outcasts, communication with whom is considered bad form. And if earlier you could only rely on "friends" who are "the army and the navy", then this will not happen soon, the old equipment is not eternal, but new weapons, your workers 'and peasants' ... again waving red rags, create just not able to. And when you have lived for two hundred years with a collar around your neck, perhaps then you will become normal people. What I personally doubt very much. bully laughing hi
                  1. plabu Offline plabu
                    plabu 7 January 2020 07: 57
                    0
                    And who do your doubts and all your other opuses occupy?
                    And all the rest of your comments yourself and comment - you yourself were not able to give birth to anything new, all according to the training manual worn out to holes - "peshi ischo" (c) tongue hi
                  2. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 7 January 2020 10: 47
                    +1
                    silver169, enemy hatred is the best holiday greetings! Christ is risen. smile
                  3. NordUral Offline NordUral
                    NordUral (Eugene) 10 February 2020 10: 43
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                    You are a good little man, only very angry, silver169.
                    I don’t take offense at you, these are your problems.
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          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 4 January 2020 23: 32
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            It is in Australia that our songs are sung and they don’t laugh.
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 5 January 2020 07: 41
              -7
              isofat I don’t laugh at this clip either, I still have a sense of humor. Why did you post it? Have fun, who laughs?
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 5 January 2020 13: 42
                +3
                Arkharovmr silver169 claims to be from Australia in his profile. And he reports that no one takes the Russians seriously, and the video with his compatriots suggests the opposite.
                PS Are you for your past statements when apologize?
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 5 January 2020 13: 55
                  -5
                  isofat
                  Can you explain yourself somehow more clearly? You are writing something completely incoherent. "Who stood on whom" and who is silver169, and where are I and Australia? Like, an article about the whole of America, looking forward to the superluminal MIG-3218M and the interorbital SU - 68433926A?
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 5 January 2020 14: 03
                    0
                    Arkharov, a person who cannot independently figure out the answer tree can no longer be helped, if only to alleviate his suffering.
      2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 5 January 2020 18: 17
        -1
        Your doubts are of no interest to anyone because too many of you have now divorced, and to pay attention to their ridiculous nonsense is to be like their wretched intellect.
    2. cmonman Offline cmonman
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) 6 January 2020 01: 22
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      The author of a site article translated only the part devoted exclusively and exclusively to Russian aircraft. About the planes of other countries - the USA, China, China / Pakistan, China / Russia, Korea, he was shy.
      Here information is only about future aircraft of the United States, FX and Air Dominance Fighter for the Navy:

      FX - The sixth generation FX fighter of the United States Air Force will be the successor to the F-4E Vietnam War, the F-15C of the late Cold War and the F-22 Raptor of the early 2000s. To guarantee American control of the sky at a time when new Russian and Chinese projects are increasingly challenging the F-22 championship, which is currently in operation. While the F-22 program suffered from significant reliability and maintenance issues, and 75% of planned orders were cut due to the end of the Cold War, the FX is likely to be brought to a higher standard without problems of complacency and budgetary problems. who baffled his predecessor. Compliance with such standards is much more important now, in a competitive environment, when Raptor was developed in the 1990s. The new fighter will provide a more sophisticated addition to the F-35 single-engine stealth aircraft that are currently in production and will be designed to deal with enemy elite fighters such as Chengdu J-20 and Sukhoi Su-35.

      The timely cessation of production of the F-22 and the limited capabilities of the fighter for modernization made this program particularly important. The new fighters are designed to deploy AIM-260 air missiles instead of the AIM-120 F-15 and F-22 and will benefit from next-generation engines, sensors and avionics. Other technologies that can be integrated include laser weapons, vector traction engines, AI assist, and a new, more advanced radar.

      The Air Dominance Fighter is being developed for the U.S. Navy to provide the long-awaited replacement for the Super-Hornet F-18E, which is currently used to combat air superiority and protect U.S. aircraft carrier strike groups. The F-18E is a “4+ generation” fighter selected in the 1990s to replace the Tomcat F-14D. Given that China and Russia are rapidly upgrading their own air forces and anti-ship capabilities, however, the F-18E is considered increasingly inadequate for the needs of the US Navy. Thus, along with investments in lighter F-35C fighters to replace the F-18C Hornet, Air Dominance Fighter will take advantage of the capabilities superior to Super Hornet for a generation and possess the stamina and advanced capabilities of flying into the air necessary to defeat future threats . Based on recent reports of the Navy, it remains unresolved whether the fighter will be deployed from aircraft carriers, or whether it will be a high-endurance ground fighter designed to cover strike groups of aircraft carriers. It is expected that the aircraft will use the same next-generation technologies as in the F-X.
  4. cmonman Offline cmonman
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 5 January 2020 03: 44
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    For the curious, there’s also an interesting article in Military Watch:
    American surveillance aircraft study Russia's most advanced air defense systems in Crimea and Syria

    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/american-surveillance-planes-test-russia-s-most-advanced-air-defence-systems-in-crimea-syria

    Surveillance aircraft from the US Air Force have been repeatedly noticed near large Russian military bases in Crimea and Syria, all of which deployed large long-range ground and air-based missile systems, such as S-400 and S-300V4. Both of these systems were deployed at the Russian Khmeimim airbase in Syria along with additional shorter-range platforms from the beginning of 2016 to protect Russian troops deployed at the theater. Several S-400 systems have also been deployed in at least three military facilities in the Crimea - a strategically located peninsula on the Black Sea, which Moscow has declared its own territory since 2014. Since some of the most advanced air defense systems in the Russian service are located in Khmeimim and Crimea, information about their capabilities may be the key to penetrating Russian airspace in future battles.

    Recent reports of the efforts of American observers show that the P-8 Poseidon spy planes flying near Syrian airspace managed to intercept the operating frequencies used by the Russian S-400 systems located there. This was reported by Russian media with reference to Yuri Sytnik, a member of the public organization of Russian officers. The officer noted that the United States still needs to decrypt the received data, but as soon as this is achieved, it will allow American electronic warfare aircraft to seriously destroy the platforms - clog the radars with static electricity and make them see targets that were not there. Similar electronic attacks were used by Israel against the Syrian systems 2K12 and S-200, which were compromised after the acquisition by the United States through Egypt and the former Warsaw Pact, respectively. The data obtained from the study of the S-400 is likely to be transmitted to allied states such as Israel and Taiwan, which are expected to use Russian platforms in the event of a war with their neighbors. It is unclear whether all S-400 systems use the same frequencies, or what countermeasures exist in the Russian armed forces to counter hostile electronic attacks on their advanced air defense systems.
    1. NordUral Offline NordUral
      NordUral (Eugene) 5 January 2020 13: 52
      0
      And I just read at VO that the Americans, along with the Turks, are studying the S-400, such are our new partners.
      1. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 5 January 2020 14: 14
        0
        Quote: NordUral
        And I just read at VO that the Americans, along with the Turks, are studying the S-400, such are our new partners.

        Patients think that they were supplied with air defense systems from the linear parts of the air defense of the Russian Federation, and not its export modification ....
  5. Jar.serge Offline Jar.serge
    Jar.serge (Reznik) 5 January 2020 12: 52
    +2
    American "experts" are like British scientists.
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 January 2020 16: 22
    +1
    "Such a breakthrough" - and the American experts, apparently, will not get enough of it ...

    Since there are no terms, no drawings, no meaningful concepts yet.
    Not even cartoons. Only floodlights and loot on them.

    But breakthroughs at every turn ....