A year without accidents: why Roscosmos has nothing more to brag about


At the end of the year, it is customary to take stock. For the Russian cosmonautics, they, alas, are not very impressive. A year without accidents - that’s probably all, thanks to which the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin has the right to beat himself in the chest. In all other respects, the state corporation continues to “stagnate” while its competitors are striving forward.


Failures of Roscosmos


Last year, Dmitry Olegovich promised President Putin to double the number of launches. So, in 2018 their number was 22, and by the end of 2019 all 45 were promised. The top manager said that the load was big, but “we can handle it”.

Did not manage. Vice Prime Minister Borisov pointed out to Rogozin that he had not fulfilled these promises:

Launcher programs are a little more than 50% complete.


Indeed, Roscosmos announces about 25 launches over the past year. Experts note that the state corporation slightly “painted” on its accounts, attributing to them 3 launches from the Kuru cosmodrome. Strictly speaking, after the sale of missiles, they became European, so Rogozin has no reason to write them down. The bottom line is only 22 launches, that is, as a year earlier.

It is interesting to see how the top manager lives up to his dubious achievements as a state corporation. The deadlines were disrupted, it turns out, through the fault of the United States, which imposed sanctions on the supply of necessary components for the production of spacecraft. Dmitry Olegovich complains:

Here the issue is not related to Roscosmos - there are no enterprises producing microelectronics in the perimeter of Roscosmos; they are located in other state corporations and in private ownership.


Naturally, three unpleasant questions immediately arise regarding these excuses.

How is it that Russia no longer has its component base, and the former great space power is critically dependent on imported components? Did the Americans ruin it for us, or someone else?

Why are there no enterprises producing microelectronics in Roscosmos?

And the most seditious: is it really that finding such enterprises in the hands of private owners does not guarantee their effective work and timely execution of state orders? How is this possible within the framework of liberal economic mythology?

Next, let's talk about the moon. As you know, Russia "entered the lunar race" with the United States. Well, as I entered ... Recall, back in 2006, the former head of RSC Energia Nikolai Sevastyanov announced that we would finally visit the Moon in 2015, and in 2020 we would begin industrial development of the helium-3 isotope on it. In 2016, Dmitry Rogozin promised a Russian lunar base in 2030. In 2019, a top manager suggested placing a domestic base on the back of the earth’s satellite, its quietest and most secluded corner, without specifying the time frame.

Well, as for the specific steps, then everything is a little more complicated. Luna-25, the very first part of the Russian lunar program, was supposed to be launched back in 2014, but the start was postponed to 2016, and then to 2019. But now she was again transferred to 2 years, until 2021. Evil Languages ​​jokes that every 2 years, Roskosmos postpones the launch for 2 years.

On the problems of manned space exploration already it is said lots of. In the near future, the USA will immediately receive 2 large seven-seater spacecraft, which will leave our Soyuz practically without work.

The successes of Roscosmos


These include the launch of the Russian-German radio telescope Spectrum-X-ray-Gamma. This is a big and important event in the scientific world. However, it should be remembered that the launch almost led to a fiasco. we toldthat Roscosmos almost sent an observatory with discharged batteries, and the problem was miraculously discovered at the last moment.

As for accident-freeness over the past year, the following factors work for it: enhanced control and a general decrease in the number of launches.
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  1. Afinogen Offline
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 11: 39
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    Navalny in Youtube told us in detail, right up to the point, why rockets fly poorly. Where the gigantic funds go. I think that soon we will not be able to launch rockets at all, we will fly into space in Chinese.
    1. mister-red Offline
      mister-red 28 December 2019 13: 13
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      Yes, Navalny, of course, is a very big expert and authority. Aren't you funny yourself?
      1. Afinogen Offline
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 13: 43
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        Let's go with a simple (I note the simplest logical) reasoning, Navalny in his video talked about monstrous corruption. Theft of funds from the Vostochny cosmodrome, and from Roskosmos, and about the constructed palaces of Rogozin and his large fleet of expensive cars. With the given photos and documents. And the question immediately arises: if this is all untrue, then Rogozin, as an honest person, should sue Navalny for libel, purge, so to speak, his good name. But silence, Rogozin decided not to notice anything. But Navalny himself calls Rogozin to court, they say, let's condemn me, and laughs at him.
        1. Nick Offline
          Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 16: 52
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          Quote: Athenogen
          And the question immediately arises: if this is all untrue, then Rogozin, as an honest man, should sue Navalny for defamation,

          Who should? To you, or what? There is a wise saying:

          you can’t put a scarf on each mouth.
          1. Afinogen Offline
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 17: 07
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            What did I do??? I didn’t understand something. request First of all, he must clear his good name and file for libel (if it is a libel, which I personally doubt) to Navalny in court. Sue him for a lot of money. With his army of lawyers, this will not be difficult. But here is the question, he is silent, pretends that there was nothing and does not notice Navalny’s calls to meet in court. Any person who is not even very gifted with the mind will draw the necessary conclusions after this.
            1. Nick Offline
              Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 17: 13
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              Quote: Athenogen
              First of all, he must clear his good name and give for slander.

              Again I have to ... WHO?
              1. Afinogen Offline
                Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 17: 40
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                Quote: Nick
                Again I have to ... WHO?

                The third time I am writing. First of all, MYSELF. If a public figure occupying a high state post, and even in such an important and strategic structure as Roscosmos, on which the prestige of our Motherland depends, should be crystal clear. If you can’t or don’t want to, then no one is holding you there at gunpoint, go away. Another will come and will be engaged in business, but not theft.
                1. Nick Offline
                  Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 17: 47
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                  Quote: Athenogen
                  The third time I am writing. First of all, MYSELF.

                  If he owes himself, he can forgive himself for his debts. But seriously, what to do if there will be 10-20-30-100 people in bulk? Throw everything and sue for 20 years? Absurd. Once again: you can’t put a scarf on each mouth!
                  1. Afinogen Offline
                    Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 18: 03
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                    he can forgive his debts

                    If it were debts, it would have been stolen. This is the BROKEN money from all Russians, from teachers, doctors - from everyone. Everyone counts money from paycheck to paycheck, for catastrophically meager salaries .. And now I want to emphasize that if you agree with Navalny’s words (without refuting, without protesting, without noticing them), then you are a thief. We just have such a country, my grandmother will steal a sausage pot (because she wants to) - she will be sent to prison. And another will steal billions openly, a reward for him, the president himself will fasten. This country has become.
                    1. Nick Offline
                      Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 18: 30
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                      Quote: Athenogen
                      If it were debts, it would have been stolen. This is the BROKEN money from all Russians, from teachers, doctors - from everyone.

                      Well, see! Now you lied. What, now, will you sue him too? Only the DLB will do so, which has nothing more to do.
              2. Arkharov Offline
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 December 2019 09: 36
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                Nick Probably the residents of the Russian Federation?
        2. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 28 December 2019 23: 20
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          Navalny in his video talked about monstrous corruption. Theft of funds from the Vostochny cosmodrome, from Roskosmos, and about the constructed palaces of Rogozin and his large fleet of expensive cars.

          Don’t share the link? And then he was already talking about Gazprom's “golden spoons”. winked It's not that I did not trust you, I just want to see with my own eyes the revelations from Navalny himself. sad
          1. Afinogen Offline
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 December 2019 23: 38
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            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 29 December 2019 21: 20
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              Yeah, I looked. Sorry, but as for me, Alexey’s investigation is such a thing for himself, however, as usual. Rogozin is not my friend or relative, if they retire him, I will survive painlessly. Let's see what they dug up "bulkers" ...
              points

              Since 2012, the Foundation has been shouting that the spaceport is being stolen ...

              and further in the text. At the same time, for some reason, they show the citizen Sable, but for some reason in 2016. And where from 2012 to 2016? Was there no camera? In general, Miss "captain evidence" of 2016.

              On October 31, 2014, the former head of Dalspetsstroy was taken into custody.

              (this is TASS).
              Further groans about Fedor’s robot, I won’t comment, this is not corruption.
              (3:29) Rogozin earns too much ... Well, probably, yes, and interim. NASA CEO gets less. But this is also not corruption.

              Commenting on the information that Brydenstein’s salary is lower at a higher load, Melnikov expressed the opinion that the media did not give the final figures of his earnings, therefore it is not entirely correct to compare these data. At the same time, Melnikov added that the salary of the Americans who are engaged in military nuclear topics is “10–20 times more” than at Roskosmos.

              https://news.myseldon.com/ru/news/index/219734716

              (6:36) There begins about cottages. Aleksei deigned to evaluate the cottage of 200 million, they say, Rogozin did not earn as much in his whole life. I calculated his salary for 8,5 years. By the way, this is the market price (approximate). How and from whom did Rogozin buy it, I do not know, and Alexey does not tell us. But since at one time my work was related to real estate, cadastre and valuation, it is not a secret for me that the price could be much lower. But Alexey, how do you know such details. He has been using the dacha for several years already ..... I have a suspicion that the plots there were distributed to certain people, which is why they are located in a heap. As in organizations, summer cottages.
              A lamentation about secrecy - that’s what it is, look, just a “natural person”, frank stupidity. An extract from the registry without documented authority will not be given. As an ordinary person from the street, you can go to the website of Rosreestr, see the public cadastral map. Besides the numbers of the plots, there will also be nothing there. By reference, an approximate procedure for obtaining a USRN statement is

              https://rosreestr.net/info/vypiska-iz-egrn-na-fizicheskoe-lico-ndash-opisanie-kak-poluchit

              So you can get an extract on your property, but not on someone else's.
              Everything else - lyrics, about dogs, the number of flights, by the way, the video - as I understand it, came out a month ago, but the data on the number of flights for 2018, probably because they look worse, in 2019 everything looks not so dramatic , go to Wikipedia, type "a list of space launches in 2019, then in 2018 and compare, the plate in the video from there.
              Perhaps Rogozin gets something, except for a salary, probably, they gave them plots at a cheap price, that's all. In general, the investigation of the century does not pull.
              Bulk is still a scoundrel, everything must be checked for him.
        3. mister-red Offline
          mister-red 29 December 2019 17: 44
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          I haven’t watched the video and am not going to - I have a gag reflex to this figure. However, what you write is not entirely true. Yes, theft was and is there, everyone knows that. And there are criminal cases too. And they were, by the way, initiated by him. Rogozin himself physically could not steal and build palaces for himself in such a short time. If he stole, then probably at a previous job.
          But I do not believe Navalny a priori - he has lied once (and he lies more than half of his statements, this is at least), it is VERY hard to believe him. Someone, but not him, to fight theft and corruption. It's like a goat with cabbage.
          I NEVER BELIEVE THOSE WHO BEGINS TO UNDERSTAND CORRUPTION AFTER ITSELF ON THIS.
          1. Afinogen Offline
            Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 December 2019 18: 49
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            I have a gag reflex to this figure.

            Frankly, he is deeply not likable to me and obviously fulfills the order of some structures (maybe we will find out later). I remember Dorenko, too, watered incriminating Luzhkov, fulfilling the order of Berezovsky.

            But I do not believe Navalny a priori

            And I would not believe, BUT ....... If Rogozin would have sued Navalny for defamation, and would have sued him for a lot of money. It would not be difficult for Rogozin to do this, with his army of lawyers and his money, he can hire the best lawyers. And in general, I would not be distracted from cases, lawyers would deal with everything. But Rogozin generally pretended that nothing had happened, as if he had not noticed anything. But Navalny mocks him, laughs, asks himself to file a lawsuit against him. And now the question is, whom to believe ????

            I NEVER BELIEVE THOSE WHO BEGINS TO UNDERSTAND CORRUPTION AFTER ITSELF ON THIS.

            lol This is the number. But did Navalny hold any position? Once he was caught on corruption.
            1. mister-red Offline
              mister-red 29 December 2019 20: 36
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              ????? !!!!! Nah, he's fighting corruption from the cradle. Advisor to the Governor of the Kirov Region, 2009. Criminal proceedings in 2010. The fight against the regime (RosPil) - the end of 2010.
              Questions ?!
              1. Afinogen Offline
                Afinogen (Afinogen) 29 December 2019 21: 23
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                Navalnov was imposed a term not for corruption, but for embezzlement, and these are two different things. Moreover, somehow it all turns out to be strange. The power on him gritted his teeth, ready to bury him alive, I would not be surprised that soon a brick would fall on his head. And then on you, they let him go. It’s strange somehow. I think if there was a reason for that, he would have been imprisoned and he would not have been released more (in prison he would have died by accident from a heart attack).
                Corruption is considered - abuse of official position, giving a bribe, receiving a bribe, abuse of authority, commercial bribery or other illegal use by an individual of his official position.
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                  mister-red 29 December 2019 21: 30
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                  Radish horseradish is not sweeter. In fact, this is the use of official position for enrichment. I don’t believe so honest. There are tons of other people with a pure reputation that you can trust.
                  PS Not a Russian or even a Russian, so I can soberly look at everything from the side.
            2. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 29 December 2019 21: 29
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              But Navalny mocks him, laughs, asks himself to file a lawsuit against him.

              But doesn’t it bother you that he does this from the USA?

              This is the number. But did Navalny hold any position? Once he was caught on corruption.

              It is not necessary to be a state to charge corruption. employees, approximate definition, giving a bribe, bribery, etc. also corruption.

              Corruption is malpractice, giving a bribereceiving a bribe, abuse of authority, tocommercial bribery or other illegal use by an individual of his official position contrary to the legitimate interests of society and the state in order to obtain benefits in the form of money .....
              1. Arkharov Offline
                Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 December 2019 09: 39
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                But doesn’t it bother you that he does this from the USA?

                - from which USA? You haven’t messed up something?
                1. 123 Offline
                  123 (123) 30 December 2019 12: 39
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                  - from which USA? You haven’t messed up something?

                  Already back? I apologize, hi He didn’t track movements, the last time the information about him accidentally slipped, he heated bones in the States. Next time I will try to double-check before writing.
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 December 2019 09: 35
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        mister-red I think that’s not funny.
  2. boriz Offline
    boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 12: 10
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    How did it happen that Russia no longer has its own component base ...

    How did it happen that she was killed for more than 20 years, and no one noticed this?
    Although this question could be asked when everyone examined the opened black box of the shot down Su 24. People who understood did not have censorship words about this. Yes, and before, when Medvedev boasted of a “Russian” iPhone made in China.
    How did it happen that the building where I worked as a deputy. beg. shop, not the first year is generally empty? And all the adjusters of stamping machines from it (all the guys are golden hands) together went as loaders to the grocery store.
    How did it happen that in the building, where until 1995 was my office the head of the workshop and the department of the chip manufacturing department, does the prosthesis workshop work? The point, of course, is necessary, but not at the same price. And this ghoul Gaidar ran around the Gosplan, sputtering, cleaned the plans of the plants, not replacing them with anything. And then Gosplan killed.
    It was the liberals who decided that the omnipotent hand of the market would do everything by itself. And in general, Russia needs 30-40 million people to service the pipe. The rest did not fit into the market. And Chubais is here at work. Even now they constantly explain to us that we are powerless nothing and just by our existence we interfere with the life of "real" people.
    How is it that Roskosmos is led by a journalist with a scientific degree in philosophy? Yes, a doctorate in technical sciences came from somewhere. Without technical education. Everything, as in the years of war communism. No education, leather jacket and cap, gun, revolutionary consciousness.
    Destroy, to the ground, and then ...
    Then we will explain why it so happened that a fig does not work ...
  3. Nick Offline
    Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 14: 05
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    Russia is the first space power in the world. The number of space satellite launches is growing, but the main thing, and this is the highest achievement, we are ahead of the rest in the most complex type of space activity, in manned launches. Over the past 10 years, Russia has carried out 4 annual launches. The USA last carried out a manned flight in 2012. China during this period made only three flights. There is nothing to say about Europe. They do not fly on their own. So, in space Russia is the first.
    Hello to all the fans! bully
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      boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 16: 47
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      Nobody argues that the first. I do not want to be the last. Development stops. Many stupid, petty movements worth billions.
      According to this recipe, Tukhachevsky ruined our army, draining industry and the economy.
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        Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 16: 49
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        Quote: boriz
        Nobody argues that the first.

        Forgot the author of the article.
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          boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 17: 05
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          The author evaluates a specific year. The year is really fig. The electronics industry has not been destroyed this year. Ditched for a long time and reliable. Here the situation is worse than in space as a whole. You just can’t imagine what difficulties it would be worth raising. When there is political will and money. You need to start with people. Very qualified and very specific personnel disappeared. Neither the author nor you closely represent the entire depth of the ass. In the space industry itself, there remains some kind of continuity, there are some developments, innovations. If you remove the stupidity in the manual, everything can be quickly corrected. In the electronic industry - the guard. And not even in electronic. I have the impression that the defense industry has completely lost the production of bare printed circuit boards. In China they do. Of course, I can’t answer for everything, I haven’t been working there for a long time, but according to some reports, everything is sad. This, of course, is not microelectronics, but at the expense of the times, too, cannot be restored. There are specialists, equipment, and serious treatment facilities. All is lost. Previously, there were 5 employees at each instrument-making plant; PP production was its own. And now - in China ... nonsense.
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            Nick (Nikolai) 28 December 2019 17: 10
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            In the electronic industry - the guard. And not even in electronic. I have the impression that the defense industry has completely lost the production of bare printed circuit boards.

            I think that, to put it mildly, exaggerate. I remember, while still a schoolboy in the distant seventies, we manually “poisoned” these boards. What's so complicated? He took a blank, drew a diagram of varnish and herbs for health.
            1. boriz Offline
              boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 17: 23
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              And the liquid from the etching was poured into the toilet. So?
              I, unlike you, saw it all alive. I can well imagine the volumes of all this.
              Well, the boards are different. Already in the 70s (and even in the 60s) they were bilateral. With the connection of tracks on different sides. In the 80s appeared (with us) multi-layer. Imagine: the board has metallization in 8 levels (for example, I don’t know how many now). To drill such boards, Swiss machines 5X3 meters were already used. Based on a granite slab 40 cm thick. And requiring good air purification in the working area. I worked as a deputy in a separate area of ​​hybrid microelectronics using thin-film technology. And only at our factory in the room the air was cleaned as it should. So they forced us to allocate a room for this machine, and we carried boards from the PCB workshop to us and vice versa. Not everything is as simple as it seems at home. And what you poured into the toilet is death for ordinary treatment facilities. There are 3-4 types of them at each plant (if not more). And the volumes ...
            2. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 28 December 2019 23: 38
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              I think that, to put it mildly, exaggerate. I remember, while still a schoolboy in the distant seventies, we manually “poisoned” these boards. What's so complicated? He took a blank, drew a diagram of varnish and herbs for health.

              I did not want to disappoint you, but time does not stand still. Production at home looks something like this, and, I think, the board itself is Chinese.

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                Nick (Nikolai) 30 December 2019 09: 47
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                Quote: 123
                I think that, to put it mildly, exaggerate. I remember, while still a schoolboy in the distant seventies, we manually “poisoned” these boards. What's so complicated? He took a blank, drew a diagram of varnish and herbs for health.

                I did not want to disappoint you, but time does not stand still. Production at home looks something like this, and, I think, the board itself is Chinese.

                Well this is a circuit assembly, not a circuit board manufacture. It is clear that now everything is automated. But the principle is the same.
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                  123 (123) 30 December 2019 13: 00
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                  Well, this is a circuit assembly, not a circuit board manufacture. It is clear that now everything is automated. But the principle is the same.

                  Quite right, this is an assembly, and the manufacture of boards is automated, it is drawn on a computer, then an order is made to China, especially if there are a lot of boards or they, for example, are double-sided. Is it worth it to mess around? All the same, to order photoresist and textolite with "aliexpress". Although if for the soul, it’s interesting to do it yourself, then yes. I still remember how the films appear and the photos are printed, I can not compare with Photoshop. There are still enthusiasts, like these for example:

    2. Igor Pavlovich Offline
      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 28 December 2019 17: 50
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      This is such a banter ...
    3. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 December 2019 09: 41
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      Nick Is this a New Year joke? You too with the upcoming!
      1. Nick Offline
        Nick (Nikolai) 30 December 2019 09: 48
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        Quote: Arkharov
        Nick Is this a New Year joke? You too with the upcoming!

        Mutually. hi
  4. Marzhecki Offline
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2019 16: 11
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    Quote: Nick
    Hello to all the fans!

    and you no
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    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 28 December 2019 20: 31
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    Why are there no enterprises producing microelectronics in Roscosmos?

    Is there an enterprise manufacturing microelectronics in the Aviation Industry? Is there a part of the car industry? Or Tankoprom?
    The author, of course, wants Roscosmos to work prolificly, but hell is looking for reasons where, and not underfoot. There are no components for space in Russia and not only microelectronics. And Rogozin cannot be blamed for this, because from his bashfully silent point of view, the Cab. Min. is to blame, but also the Cab. Min. he is bashfully silent that he is not allowed to turn around by someone who runs the country himself as he can / wants. And there is nobody to object, most importantly !!! Yes and will not !!! Everyone is happy with everything! Because, if Roscosmos is repaired, then it is necessary to repair medicine, healthcare, and a drop in the birth rate, and 30% without gas ...
    In short - do nothing and there is the safest way out for the vertical. By the way, I give advice on how to save money - in 1-2 years to launch astronauts on Amer rockets, stop launching satellites and start exploring the Far East, plow and plow there ...!
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      boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 20: 48
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      Or maybe just send far away Washington budget rule and stop paying tribute to the IMF and the Fed? Then enough for the Far East, and for space, and for the defense industry, and for your consumer goods, and for pensioners, medicine, ...
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        123 (123) 28 December 2019 23: 43
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        Or maybe just send far away Washington budget rule and stop paying tribute to the IMF and the Fed?

        Apparently, this is not so easy to do, after the collapse, they were built into someone else's financial system and on their terms.
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          boriz (boriz) 28 December 2019 23: 50
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          Yes, I understand that it is not easy. It's just that a person offers to throw space and save on this. Is this an option?
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            123 (123) 29 December 2019 19: 33
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            Not an option at all. We’ll leave it, then it will be very difficult to catch up.
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          cmonman (Garik Mokin) 29 December 2019 00: 42
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          Apparently, this is not so easy to do, after the collapse, they were built into someone else's financial system and on their terms.

          The formula for success is one for the whole world and for all (almost all) economies:
          money-commodity-money. Someone made money, spent (bought “something”). But someone did this “something”, it means “returned the money”. This is how the formula works - money-commodity-money. And if the people have no money? And if people buy only what is needed for survival - food, medicine? It turns out that they do not buy apartments (they built houses in vain, they are building. Prom in stagnation), irons / furniture / cars are also in stagnation.
          Conclusion: the people will start spending - the country's economy will rise, the people will save - the economy will fall. And to make people start spending is not a question for Rogozin, not for a manual Kab.Min or a manual Duma, it is a question for Himself ....
          By the way - you can remember Gapon ...
  6. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 28 December 2019 21: 47
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    I just remembered who and when we promised the moon landing in 2015 !!!
    Thank you!
  7. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 28 December 2019 23: 16
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    As for accident-freeness over the past year, the following factors work for it: enhanced control and overall reduction in the number of launches.

    Little problem.

    So, in 2018 their number was 22
    The bottom line is only 22 launches, that is, as a year earlier.

    How is it that Russia no longer has its component base, and the former great space power is critically dependent on imported components? Did the Americans ruin it for us, or someone else?

    The backlog in electronics is traditional, from the time of the USSR, “Soviet microcircuits are the largest in the world”, probably because cybernetics is “pseudoscience”, although they tried to do something, it’s almost a rare tablet by reference)))



    Why are there no enterprises producing microelectronics in Roscosmos?

    Probably because subsistence farming is a little outdated, I suspect that Roskosmos does not even produce fuel for rockets. The claim is so-so, a little far-fetched.
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    Brancodd 29 December 2019 00: 59
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    Borisov stubbornly seeks the resignation of Rogozin. This obviously became even in the summer when he tried to change the contractor in Vostochny. Lobbied a new version of the infamous Spetsstroy. Although I was well aware that the schedule is being maintained. It’s impossible to steal there, as all payments go through the treasury. Then Putin did not fall for it.
    Now this criticism is more than strange. It remains a feeling that Borisov and those behind him were waiting for failure at the launches to the last. And when today the Messengers successfully launched into orbit in the last launch, they decided to catch on the number of launches.
    But in terms of the number of launches, we are ahead of the United States this year, although until the last month we went head to head. 25 of ours versus 21 in the USA. When was the last time? China has 34 starts, but 2 failures. As already reported here, for the first time in ten years we have a trouble-free year. Is it bad? Tell it to the European Space Agency with their Vega and ten launches. Rather, the year was relatively successful. Relative to the previous ones.
    So the thing is different. 24 year is coming. We must take control of all key positions, including Roscosmos. Rogozin for a significant part of the elite is not just a stranger, but a principal antagonist. It must be stripped with a wolf ticket. Remember Medvedev’s hysteria in June, when he literally broke into a screech demanding to plow, not to chat. Of course, he shouted at Rogozin. It is very funny to hear the demand to stop chatting from Medvedev .. It’s quite difficult for them to sew corruption to Rogozin. By the standards of officials of this level, he lives quite modestly. This is not difficult to verify. It remains to ascribe to him the failures of the industry, but these failures still need to be found and associated personally with Rogozin
    Roscosmos funding was cut exactly 2 times by the government in 2016.
    Mamut and his media resources are engaged in a targeted program to discredit Roscosmos, in particular Rogozin personally. Rambler and Lenta.ru, as a rule, begin. The rest pick up.
    In fact, signs of an improvement in the situation in Roscosmos began to appear even about a year before Rogozin arrived in Roscosmos. Over the past 2 years, the situation has gradually begun to improve. Rogozin was a good organizer. In my opinion, the new program is quite realistic and quite feasible with good governance, even taking into account the scarce resources allocated by the government. After 2 -3 years, this can give a result. Therefore, you need to remove it now. An approximate scheme was used during Putin’s hesitation - to appoint or not to appoint Glazyev as the head of the Central Bank. The most powerful information attack - and here is Nabiullina.
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      123 (123) 29 December 2019 19: 36
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      Interesting version. good There is something to think about.
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      boriz (boriz) 29 December 2019 23: 44
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      Lobbied a new version of the infamous Spetsstroy.

      I served in this "version" in 1985-87. and I see nothing wrong with that, because I know how it was arranged and how it acted.
      About the fact that the deadlines were fulfilled this year: I remember well how Putin was brought to a freshly dug trench on the first launch, as during the Great Patriotic War and what his face was. After this work was taken under special third-party control.
      If a person has ever heard of a disaster in 1960 with an R-16 rocket, when the Chief Artillery Marshal Nedelin and about 100 others were burned, and after that he brings the first person in the state to a freshly dug trench ... I do not even presume to assess the entire depth of arrogance , dullness, frostbite of the brain ...
      I spoke with the guys who served or did practice under the USSR in Baikonur, told everyone in detail, everyone saw the “shadow” of Nedelin’s wristwatch with arrows on the stone, the remnants of the marshal's epaulet and the fused star of the Hero of the Soviet Union (the rest burned out). Everyone was impressed and immediately more deeply aware of the role of safety engineering (in the army this is always a problem).
      Then there was a bunker, but Nedelin remained outside the bunker so that the people (working on the rocket) would not relax, he saw that the leadership shared the risks with them. The start was needed urgently. Such were the leaders ...
      And who should be to disrupt the construction of the bunker and bring Putin to the trenches?
      Putin’s humanism just rolls over. In my place I would have thrown Rogozin away from the civil service, equipment and organizational work. So that no one else heard of him.
      For me, it would be better to steal moderately, if only there was a sense. But he cannot prevent theft, cannot organize and control the progress of work, and cannot make a competent, responsible technical decision (well, where would this come from?).
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        Brancodd 30 December 2019 09: 00
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        Probably Spetsstroy "It was arranged and acted in 1985-87" is somewhat different than 2007-2014. Almost all criminal cases are related to the activities of Spetsstroy during his work in the East.
        As far as I remember, in 2016 Putin was not present at the launch of the Union. The launch has been delayed. And by the way, Rogozin was not headed by Roskosmos then.
        Well, in the bottom line, according to the results of this year, Roscosmos was ahead of the European Space Agency in the number of launches of the USA, and more than 2 times. At the same time, both Americans and Europeans had unsuccessful launches.
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    master3 (Vitali) 14 February 2020 23: 45
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    Roscosmos has nothing more to boast of.

    - Is it only to Roskosmos?